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Guys I was just wondering why Google releases updates every year ...it doesn't bring any notable new features sometimes ( like froyo to gb = nothing new) sometimes some phones take a whole year to get the update and in the meantime a new update is announced
And then we have our manufacturers who refuse to update our phones( if u r looking at my signature and want to tell me that I should buy a high end phone lets talk about what happened to SGS 1 first ) and make the whole update sick
I think Google should convince the manufacturers to update all devices and Google itself should annonce less updates( less quality updates >>>> more quantity updates)
Or can someone explain Google 's strategy to me???? It sure doesn't make sense to me
Kind of agree with what you have to say.
In my opinion many people have low end devices, which don't really get the latest os updates anyway, thanks to the phone manufacturers. So you'll have a large chunk of the user base using the older versions. Which in turn results in a large amount of applications targeting the older versions too.
The_R said:
Kind of agree with what you have to say.
In my opinion many people have low end devices, which don't really get the latest os updates anyway, thanks to the phone manufacturers. So you'll have a large chunk of the user base using the older versions. Which in turn results in a large amount of applications targeting the older versions too.
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+1 ...I just can't see why Google makes the fuss about updates ??? I mean "update " by its very definition means improving I.e. older phones getting newer os but android phones hardly get more than 2 updates! !!! Even if the hardware supports the new software! !!!
What do you mean no changes between Froyo and GB? From Wikipedia here are some:
v2.3
On 6 December 2010, the Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) SDK was released, based on Linux kernel 2.6.35. Changes included:
Updated user interface design with increased simplicity and speed
Support for extra-large screen sizes and resolutions (WXGA and higher)
Native support for SIP VoIP internet telephony
Faster, more intuitive text input in virtual keyboard, with improved accuracy, better suggested text and voice input mode
Enhanced copy/paste functionality, allowing users to select a word by press-hold, copy, and paste
Support for Near Field Communication (NFC), allowing the user to read an NFC tag embedded in a poster, sticker, or advertisement
New audio effects such as reverb, equalization, headphone virtualization, and bass boost
New Download Manager, giving users easy access to any file downloaded from the browser, email, or another application
Support for multiple cameras on the device, including a front-facing camera, if available
Support for WebM/VP8 video playback, and AAC audio encoding
Improved power management with a more active role in managing apps that are keeping the device awake for too long
Enhanced support for native code development
Switched from YAFFS to ext4 on newer devices
Audio, graphical, and input enhancements for game developers
Concurrent garbage collection for increased performance
Native support for more sensors (such as gyroscopes and barometers)
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A lot of it is new hardware support to keep up with technology. The new audio effects it talks about make it possible for system wide EQ apps without root like Equalizer, before GB IIRC this was not possible. They've also made multitasking better so that task killers shouldn't be needed.
Their update strategy is to debut the new OS on a Nexus device and then release the source so others can use it. Personally I would like to see Google let developers in earlier in development so they can get drivers and upgrades done quicker. This is how Microsoft does things and is why OEMs can have the new OS ready on hardware on its debut day. But Google's strategy is quite a bit different.
spunker88 said:
What do you mean no changes between Froyo and GB? From Wikipedia here are some:
A lot of it is new hardware support to keep up with technology. The new audio effects it talks about make it possible for system wide EQ apps without root like Equalizer, before GB IIRC this was not possible. They've also made multitasking better so that task killers shouldn't be needed.
Their update strategy is to debut the new OS on a Nexus device and then release the source so others can use it. Personally I would like to see Google let developers in earlier in development so they can get drivers and upgrades done quicker. This is how Microsoft does things and is why OEMs can have the new OS ready on hardware on its debut day. But Google's strategy is quite a bit different.
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Even I was thinking about your last point u know, when the update gets announced it should be released simultaneously ......waiting a whole year ( or 5-6months) sucks
That's why there's great community(s) like xda forums and projects like cyanogenmod. Linux is open. Android is based on Linux. Android isn't AS opem.
The developers are here to help remedy some of that.
Dear XDA,
just looking for a friendly discussion here. With Android O dev preview, it has blocked apps from drawing on the UI due to a security issue. But to my knowledge it just forces a system wide notification with the ability to turn off the ui elements, and gives the option to allow ui drawing (hiding the notification) per app and if the apps use the newer API can show up as a trusted app. But so many tech articles says otherwise. Are these really a big security loop hole in your opinion? Like for example after the nougat update, os monitor stopped working and the dev stopped support due to a security patch. So I am wondering if android is really getting more closed to security updates or is this just articles fear mongering? I mean I am all up for security and lucky for me all my apps such as emulators, settings, tools, linux containers and such so far I have not needed to root at all and it has really helped me since I use mobile payment on my s7 edge. I do dabble into rooting on my nexus 7 but rooting hasn't been mandatory, unless ofcourse most of my app breaks because of android updates, then I would have to root. So is android really becoming more closed or are these security updates actually required??
I have moaned in the past about the rapid pace of Android OS development, and the usual implication of buying a new phone is you forced to upgrade android, but going from Android 6 to 8, looks like its going to be brutal for me, and hard decisions to be made.
On my old S7 phone running Android6, I have the following working reasonably well.
Xposed
Instagram made useable by xposed (app without it is horrible)
Same with snapchat
Various privacy enhancements thanks to xposed
Anag app works perfectly.
Apps mostly honour auto sync setting
However titanium backup only barely functions, it seems it only works properly with supersu which is considered obsolete these days, this app last worked properly on my s5.
Using android 9, there is no xposed at all, to me having no xposed on android is like going out in the street naked.
Using android 8, xposed is in beta, initially it seemed stable, but I have noticed the contacts app goes crazy and unstable as well as phone app after 2-3 days uptime if xposed is enabled on phone.
Some xposed modules have become abandonware and no longer work on Android 8
Some apps including Anag which has no alternative app have become abandonware and dont work properly or at all on Android 8.
Auto sync is disabled on the phone yet I keep getting notifications from apps, related to background sync activity they are doing, e.g. dominoes apps downloads an advert, and sends me a notification asking me if I am hungry to order some pizzas (never ever seen it do this on android 6), various other apps having similar type behaviours, just 10 mins ago backgrounds hd sent me a notification to inform me its downloaded new backgrounds, how has it done this when I havent gave it permission to background sync? ,either the auto sync setting is broken or there is some new feature in newer android that allows apps to spam you. I suspect its the latter, as I think even with auto sync enabled on android 6 I wasnt getting all this app spam.
The problem is this, new phone hardware is nice, my newest phone is lightning fast compared to my s7. But ultimately its the software that makes the phone. Sadly there is no Android 6 for the oneplus6, I dont expect much sympathy on the XDA community as the majority of people here seem happy to always jump on the latest builds of android without a second thought, often beta/alpha builds to boot. But felt like I needed to rant.
I dont know what I am going to do moving forward, I will probably test OOS 8.x, just to rule out custom rom issues, and if issues persist I can forsee myself selling the phone and buying an older model that still is faster (but wont be as fast) just so I can run android 6. I wonder if anyone else has ever deliberately avoided latest model phones to keep old android.
Its becoming evident to me, that many developers cannot keep up with the pace of android updates, so we get this happening, apps becoming abandonware, and users like myself either have to find replacement apps or accept to lose features on their phone. I wonder if IOS has these issues or if that has full backward compatibility that keeps old apps working. I wouldnt be unhappy if e.g. new android major releases were every 2 years with 5 years security support for each release as well. But a sane software support policy goes against google's policies.
Its kind of interesting as we have many news articles about the problem of android fragmentation as such, and often these articles blame everyone except google, they blame end users, they blame phone manufacturers, and they blame mobile carriers, but they never consider the problem might be google simply releasing new versions of android too rapidly.
Hi, I'm increasingly concerned by snooping and overreach from Google and State actors, and thought one way to limit their reach into my device is by not updating their apps and staying on older stable versions - I think I understand the balance between missing out on new security/bug fixes/features/etc.
I'm using an Android One phone which I do update when security patches are released, so it's only the apps that are backward versions.
What do others think about this approach, or is there an alternative method to keep Google and 5/14 Eyes out of my junk?
CalyxOS is an Android mobile operating system that puts privacy and security into the hands of everyday users. Plus, proactive security recommendations and automatic updates take the guesswork out of keeping your personal data personal.
Learn more out CalyxOS.
Working:
Telephony (Calls and Data)
IMS (RCS, VoLTE and WiFi Calling)
WiFi
Bluetooth
Camera (and flashlight)
Audio (Record and Playback)
Video Playback
Sensors
GPS
DM-Verity Enabled
Encryption
Bugs:
You tell me
Installation:
Wipe /system, /vendor, /cache
Format data
Flash calyxos zip
Notes:
Do NOT flash gapps
It is a user build
Not encrypted by default
I do not work for the calyx institute
Poco F1 does not maintain the android security model as much as the officially supported devices. It does not have complete android verified boot, but dm-verity is enabled
Download:
Get CalyxOS for Poco F1
Kernel Source:
Kernel source
If you like my work, please consider buying me a coffee.
Telegram support
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Godlike rom! So far only notification delays. I don't know if this is a calyx issue in general or this rom in particular
CalyxOS v3.6.0 is out. Get it here.
Changelog:
• Fixed Encryption
• Switched to user build
• Updated kernel to Ingenium v3.1
• Source upstream (Updated to June patch)
Dev_Mashru said:
CalyxOS v3.6.0 is out. Get it here.
Changelog:
• Fixed Encryption
• Switched to user build
• Updated kernel to Ingenium v3.1
• Source upstream (Updated to June patch)
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Took a while but thanks for keeping it up with this ROM.
Dev_Mashru said:
CalyxOS v3.6.0 is out. Get it here.
Changelog:
• Fixed Encryption
• Switched to user build
• Updated kernel to Ingenium v3.1
• Source upstream (Updated to June patch)
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Hi, the Link is not correct.
This is the correct Link: calyxos_beryllium-3.6.0.zip
a170xda said:
Hi, the Link is not correct.
This is the correct Link: calyxos_beryllium-3.6.0.zip
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Thanks for bringing it to my notice. Updated.
Hi, I wonder why you care about privacy and at the same time recommend Signal/whatsapp/duckduckgo.
Although the rom seems promising.
Glad to see Calyx for our Poco!!! Thanks for your work!
So far I only noticed that the "Display cutout" settings does not work properly (to hide the notch). Otherwise it runs really great!
Dev_Mashru said:
Thanks for bringing it to my notice. Updated.
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You should also updates the Notes in OP: Not encrypted by default to Encrypted by default, since in ur recent changelog you wrote that you fixed it.
Retrial said:
You should also updates the Notes in OP: Not encrypted by default to Encrypted by default, since in ur recent changelog you wrote that you fixed it.
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It is still not encrypted by default unlike in A11. Earlier it wouldn't boot if you were encrypted, now you can manually encrypt and it will boot.
Dev_Mashru said:
It is still not encrypted by default unlike in A11. Earlier it wouldn't boot if you were encrypted, now you can manually encrypt and it will boot.
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Hmm I see. It would be nice if you could work to make it encrypted by default especially in this ROM. However I understand it may need some of your time.
BTW, I checked fast some screenshots, I saw some dots, seems there is a padding issue in status bar. (not sure tho since I checked from screenshots, I haven't tried the ROM yet). If you want take a look at crDroid values here, it may help with padding.
Does this build also receive OTA updates? Wishful thinking I'm sure, but i'm very interested. Do you have any plans to bring your project up to the newest iteration of CalyxOS? I think it's on 4.6.0 now. Any clarity you can offer on how your build copes with updates and what other manufacturer specific updates you've had to keep an eye on would be good to know as well please.
I think your build might have a specific application at the intersection of privacy fanaticism and audiophile listening with external DAC/AMP. The user can luxuriate in the use of interchangeable micro SD storage slots and the infinitely expandable, offline library it affords them. This means they can do away with depending on an internet connection and subscriptions to lossless music services like Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer, etc.
Alternatives in the android-based DAP market often have limited, non-expandable storage, and rely on versions of android which are outdated but no less privacy invasive. Whereas using a Poco F1 with custom ROM opens things up entirely. It also allows users to incrementally upgrade their DAC whilst always relying on this phone as their DAP playing hi-res files over USB. No need to upgrade DAP.
I'm really keen to learn how you built this. I think this phone is an ideal candidate for DIY, cost-effective, privacy respecting lossless listening.
airgappedromproject said:
Does this build also receive OTA updates? Wishful thinking I'm sure, but i'm very interested. Do you have any plans to bring your project up to the newest iteration of CalyxOS? I think it's on 4.6.0 now. Any clarity you can offer on how your build copes with updates and what other manufacturer specific updates you've had to keep an eye on would be good to know as well please.
I think your build might have a specific application at the intersection of privacy fanaticism and audiophile listening with external DAC/AMP. The user can luxuriate in the use of interchangeable micro SD storage slots and the infinitely expandable, offline library it affords them. This means they can do away with depending on an internet connection and subscriptions to lossless music services like Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer, etc.
Alternatives in the android-based DAP market often have limited, non-expandable storage, and rely on versions of android which are outdated but no less privacy invasive. Whereas using a Poco F1 with custom ROM opens things up entirely. It also allows users to incrementally upgrade their DAC whilst always relying on this phone as their DAP playing hi-res files over USB. No need to upgrade DAP.
I'm really keen to learn how you built this. I think this phone is an ideal candidate for DIY, cost-effective, privacy respecting lossless listening.
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Here is the latest A13 version. (Also use that thread)