Community development strength - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Real Life Review

You're a power user. Can the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Samsung Galaxy Note 9. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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The activity is overall underwhelming despite the amount of potential the Exynos 9810 has. There are plenty Custom ROMs for people’s needs, but they don’t feature any heavily customized Kernel that makes use of the true power of the SoC, and instead, they rely on a Samsung’s horrible work with the processor on the software side of things. And there still aren’t many good choices, most being port ROMs, they will inevitably have bugs hidden somewhere. Nobody can keep up with the amount of files in an OS and port all of it perfectly.
Custom Kernel development is dead. Only one developer is active on it (ykkfive, that I’m currently supporting).
While there are Kernels for each Android version of the phone in its European variant, there aren’t a lot of choices to meet people’s different requirements.
USA variant not worth talking about. Development is just dead. But the bootloader is locked so it’s not worth it to root to my eyes anyways.
The development scene is overall a 3/10 to me. Not healthy. This device deserves much more.
Well, still second to SM G531F development. As that is by far the worst I’ve ever seen

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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Sony Xperia L1, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Sony Xperia L1 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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I do dig this device, and it seems much higher end than the price tag would indicate. I do, however, have some questions for Sony, namely why isn't this device listed at all on the Developer World forums? Why isn't there a branch on github for this device? Why does it seem like the L1 is the bad son in the Sony smartphone lineup?
The best thing about this phone is that it's spurring me to dive into Android development, as I've been strictly relegated to MatLab and various engineering softwares. I miss coding because I'm a glutton for punishment, but I digress.
Of course I have no delusions about anyone from Sony actually reading this, as they are clearly in a hands full situation over on the Developer World beat, but in the event one of you drop in to test your smart spectacles, I have a penny for your thoughts, and that, friends, is just my $0.02 for the day.

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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I would like to give 10 on 10 to the community because now we have everything that we need for the healthy development of the phone as the company has released all the kernel source code and the bootloader unlock tool and the company is delivering the bimonthly security updates of the Android and important updates to the phone as soon as possible and as soon as they are found
So now it is our responsibility to take care of this community and keep this development healthy in order to keep this phone alive in the years to come because these days the metallic phones don't wear away so easily and then it to be cared so that they will be going on for years
It's flourishing everyday... Awesome
Can't say it is great as of now. I was using a OnePlus before and the development for that device used to be far far better. It has been about 3 months since our phone has been released and we still don't have a 100% stable custom ROM yet. People still complain about minor issues with every custom ROM and that's the reason why I'm sticking to the stock ROM. Hoping things will get better.
ok all is done yes sd636 is only 5mts old so we have to for further development
hope community get stong as time passes
Thanks for your sincere effort for The Rom developments and any kind of issues fixing, I wish them all the best.
Hameedhudeen said:
Can't say it is great as of now. I was using a OnePlus before and the development for that device used to be far far better. It has been about 3 months since our phone has been released and we still don't have a 100% stable custom ROM yet. People still complain about minor issues with every custom ROM and that's the reason why I'm sticking to the stock ROM. Hoping things will get better.
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This phone is good on paper and to some extent in real life, coming from my three old OnePlus one I have several complaints, which I've listed below.
1. Despite having an "NXP Smart Amp" this phone does not provide decent audio experience compared to my old oneplus one, the audio output is lacking depth and harsh, simply not pleasant to listen to.
2. The fingerprint sensor does not work while the phone is connected to the charger.
3. This phone has 2.4Ghz WiFi only which cannot be used reliably if you are using bluetooth at the same time, because of interference the network jitter goes up significantly. (from 2ms to 140ms)
4. Vibration response while being decent is too delayed, adjusting the haptic feedback settings from 0 to 30 ms leads to no haptic response at all, you have to crank beyond 50ms to get something significant out of it. But still, at times the haptic feedback will miss while typing.
Looking at the community and development support going on for this phone I really hope that at least the first and second problem gets a resolution, as the other two are related to hardware itself.

Why is the Redmi 5 getting so little attention?

hey everyone so i'm clearly enjoying me Redmi 5 but when compared to the other redmi phones or even xiaomi phones overall, it's getting very little attention, like only a few roms and all are nougat roms while others like even the redmi 4 already got an android P rom even though our device is newer and actually better in overall performance, so i think we really should make the forum more lively if we want more interest and roms to come this way
What ideas could you guys have to make our phone a bit more popular? comment below please
Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
driton.talinoci said:
well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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I think a lot of people who interested in purchasing this phone end up buying the redmi 5 plus model as the price increase is quite low by comparison based on my country market. Anyways, I do agree with having a 3gb ram and a 18x9 display with the range of price given by the market is quite good. TLDR, I think the Redmi 5 Plus does overshadow the redmi 5 model,thus causing low number of custom roms development.
Slightly offtopic. In my country there is a bigger price difference between the Redmi 5 and 5 plus in most mainstream online stores, and I've been able to get my mother a Redmi 5 2/16 gb for literally 107 dollars converted and adjusted for vat! Dirt cheap. In comparison my oneplus 3 costed 500 dollars 2 years ago.
I am able to run Blokada no-root adblocker on the Redmi 5 if I turn off battery optimizations and turn on "keep alive". That's all we need from a cheaper phone isn't it? MIUI gets kinda regular updates and recent security patches, and is an overall solid and lightweight ROM. Not a lot of bloat unlike other cheaper phones.
I'm not even expecting much custom rom's when Xiaomi provides such good support for their phones
The new Rom packaging has screwed a lot of developers. The Market range is far to High to obtain any User investigating for Development.
This device has a neat Stock Experience. The optimisations decreased highly with any Update of the Android version. The Graveyard of Technology is high, with all the cluttering, Invention of Removal of Bloatware, Security Improvements and alternatives of existing Modifications, Hardware that went in and out it was like launching a Rocket. Much will be missed..
In common, Developers go there where is the most of Sources provided. Mainly Google. Hardware manufacturers who change poorly their Hardware providers are favourites, like Samsung.
The Application security is Poor. So, here in the End developers meet Apple as their Dead End.

OEM skin/software

Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
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So Samsung is not known for speedy updates. However in my experience when you get a version upgrade there are few bugs. I had a pixel 3 and it was nothing but bugs and some pretty bad. Nothing you could do but wait for the next update and see what that breaks. I have had some phones that had bugs and never had them addressed. Oneplus 7pro had an Android 10 bug of freezing the phone while scrolling through a website. Had to reboot the phone. I tried using beta, stable. Reflashing the phone multiple times and after 2, 3 updates later still had the issue although it did improve.
Contrast that with the update from Samsung with Android 10 and I have not had any of the issues that I had with my pixel 3 which had the same freezing problem as my 7pro. Both with fast android 10 updates that were buggy.
Also Samsung was a little faster with the updates. They still have room to improve but it looks like they are taking it as a serious issue which is good.
Now One UI 2.0 is a pleasure to use. I love it and I hate OEM skins. It really feels polished and well thought out. I do wish Samsung would let us decide if we want ANY of their pre installed apps. And if we want their app store. These are forced upon us and it is always a thorn in my side with every version of Samsung UI. I hope as with updates Samsung starts to take seriously the fact that people like extra features but not extra forced apps we will never use. It would be nice during set up to have a list of pre installed optional software that we could individually or as a group choose to install or not. Simple and gives us a choice.
Overall I like Android 10 on Samsung a lot. The Note 10+ works very well and all of the functions you depend on are solid and reliable.
I like having lots of options and customization that One UI 2.0 offers including regular android 10 gesture support. There are some memory use issues that I have with Samsung in general and that has never changed but it has gotten better.
Samsung has come a long way with their software because there was a time I would not buy their phones because of it. I would not say I prefer it over a more stock experience. I really like what Motorola has done with their take on Android, just wish they would update their phones but the Moto actions like chop, chop to turn on the flashlight should be a feature every phone has and same with the camera action. If Samsung would continue to concentrate on updating devices faster and for longer and continue to trim the fat of the OS even more with getting rid of any mandatory apps besides Google apps then you would have a much more loyal user base even non techies like updates and product support even after it is expected, specifically for a flagship device. It will boost sales in the long term of increase repeat buyers. Something most companies covet. Might help Samsung fight off less expensive and more feature rich Chinese phones by offering software support the others couldn't. It is a factor in making a buying decision. We already know they make nice phones.
Out of the box it made my brain hurt.
High contrast+dark mode+theme+Good Lock Apps+Galaxy store icon pack+custom dark wallpaper+ package blocker and so on; it's beautiful.
Of course Samsung wants it's skin to be very customizable otherwise I would hate it.
Still running Pie because it's runs fast, stable and very thankful for no bloody scoped storage.
It will run like this for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, I really regret updating to Q… smh
I wonder how far it will dropped down your benchmark for office apps... don't need scope storage.
Can still run older app not updated for scope storage next year that I keep backup apks of... and I like my overlay apps.

Question Does anyone know whether this device will become popular in the custom community?

I've been wondering whether to buy this device or not. I want to ask an experienced person. Will this device become popular in the custom community? I am looking forward to it being able to have countless custom ROMs like Redmi Note 7 series poco F1
I hope so.
I'm waiting to see which device to get. I like Xiaomi devices I hate the software.
None of the other manufacturers/ODM have the combo this has.
Good processor
rear or side fingerprint (optical is just useless)
Bootlocker unlock
Xiaomi.eu ( love hate with that. At least it's a custom rom -ish)
I wish there was a pop up camera.
Even I am waiting for it to become popular, OnePlus phones just aren't worth it anymore. I hope this gets popular soon, as soon as there is a working twrp available, I will go ahead and buy this phone.
The problem with Xiaomi is that they just make way too many phones. So it's difficult to get devs to get interested.
I think the Poco F3 has the best chance
People who do not travel have no option. Also, it's the EXACT same device just named differently everywhere, so Devs do not really have to any extra tweaking. I'm guessing, other than adding different configs so the device is recognized and flashed correctly nothing majorly deviating may be required.
Having said that the Vivo Iqoo 7 also deserves a good look this time from the modding community, it's going to sell by the bucket-loads and deservingly at that. The cams are miles better along with the 66w charging and in-built unannounced (sh*t google-dialer) call recording capability. I might just pick one up.
STAY FAR AWAY from the disaster of the 888 chips, all hail Qualcomm marketing division and Samsung fabrication.
EDIT: Sorry, seems like the wrong section, bye bye 888 K40 Pro/Mi11X Pro. No 888, even for free, do not need a portable 5nm grill.
Nobody is making any custom kernels/ROMs that I'm aware of for Mi11 or Redmi K40 Pro Plus. I sold mine (888 throttles too much, bad Qualcomm design, way too OC'd for consistent performance). Sorry for the bad news - most people are ditching their 888s in the Lineage group that I was in and they gave up on a fundraiser for it. Just these phones run way too hot and the chip is not properly configured (they tried to push it TOO FAR).... Even though the Mi11 is probably the most popular 888 out there, I only see development on OnePlus 9 / Pro series. Hate to be the spoiler here.
LeDiable said:
People who do not travel have no option. Also, it's the EXACT same device just named differently everywhere, so Devs do not really have to any extra tweaking. I'm guessing, other than adding different configs so the device is recognized and flashed correctly nothing majorly deviating may be required.
Having said that the Vivo Iqoo 7 also deserves a good look this time from the modding community, it's going to sell by the bucket-loads and deservingly at that. The cams are miles better along with the 66w charging and in-built unannounced (sh*t google-dialer) call recording capability. I might just pick one up.
STAY FAR AWAY from the disaster of the 888 chips, all hail Qualcomm marketing division and Samsung fabrication.
EDIT: Sorry, seems like the wrong section, bye bye 888 K40 Pro/Mi11X Pro. No 888, even for free, do not need a portable 5nm grill.
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The issue with Vivo is they don't follow the GPL = no source code bro.
Just now, it is launched in India ( mi 11xpro ) and still people haven't receive devices yet, I am sure more people will be joining soon in some months.
If you stuck with Xiaomi well, I have no idea if any custom ROMs will be released. If so they are probably floating around China somewhere...

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