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I have searched from all over the web app that could change camera's exposure time. I like to take good nigh photos, or anyway as good as it's possible with mobilephone camera, but like in mine HTC Desire exposure time is way too short.
I have tried many of those camera apps from market, like camera 360, but non of them can adjust shutter speed/exposure way I wanted. Say, I want a long exposure for night photo. For example I would like input exposure value to app, so that it would expose photo for 10 seconds.
So, do anyone know app to change exposure/shutter speed?
And my Desire is not rooted and I'm currently not planning to do so.
Would love to know about this, too; any ideas for this?
Sign me up for this as well.
Long exposures would be great. Would need some sort of remote shutter release or time delay ideally and a mounting system, tripod fashion.
Problem is - you'd also need a mount or tripod of some sort to hold the camera still enought to make long exposures work
I don't know about the rest of you but I can only handhold steady my DSLR down to about 1/80th of a second
Argent36 said:
Problem is - you'd also need a mount or tripod of some sort to hold the camera still enought to make long exposures work
I don't know about the rest of you but I can only handhold steady my DSLR down to about 1/80th of a second
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I have managed 1/15 and 1/8 (the latter very rarely) handheld with my Pentax (image stabilisation built into body FTW), but yeah, you would have to use a tripod or to prop it up and have a timed shutter release for the phone. This isn't a problem as such, even just being able to specify the aperture would be welcome.
Well a mount can be anything...jumper, phone leaned against a wall. Would be awesome for cityscapes and such. Anyone found anything which indicates this is possible with a software patch? New to android and just tearing through my first rom package
Exactly, it doesn't have to be anything serious, just lean it against a beer for example.
I can't see a reason why you couldn't manually control everything, I can control ISO, metering, etc on my SGS, adding aperture and shutter shouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.
Had a look around as a noob to Android dev/roms etc. and I don't think it's possible to control the hardware to that level :/
Would love to be corrected on this, though!
I don't have the SDK installed anymore, can someone test what camera.getParameters gives on a device?
This would be great, the DX has a nice camera but additional lens control would put the icing on the cake
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I don't have the SDK installed anymore, can someone test what camera.getParameters gives on a device?
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Parameters not found I'm doin it wrong?
Epic is as Epic does
Argent36 said:
Problem is - you'd also need a mount or tripod of some sort to hold the camera still enought to make long exposures work
I don't know about the rest of you but I can only handhold steady my DSLR down to about 1/80th of a second
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I can handhold my Leica down to 1/15. You need more practice (a lot of it).
Argent36 said:
Problem is - you'd also need a mount or tripod of some sort to hold the camera still enought to make long exposures work
I don't know about the rest of you but I can only handhold steady my DSLR down to about 1/80th of a second
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Not to be too big a jerk here, but if you can only hand-hold an SLR steady, any SLR, at 1/80 or faster then I'm sorry to say that you may have a serious case of parkinson's, or are the most ADHD person who ever picked up a camera.
1/60 is recognized as the speed at which regular hand-held motion is mitigated, and unless you're actively moving the camera (or standing on top of a paint-mixer), you will not get camera-shake at that speed. Most photographers are able to hand-hold, and get a shake-free shot, down to about 1/8 on a good day.
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Parameters not found I'm doin it wrong?
Epic is as Epic does
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What was the rest of the code? and did you try this on actual hardware or the emulator?
I will try to code an app for that. Plus FFC Support...
but you'll have to wait until I'm back from Japan
EDIT: It's not possible to really influence the shutter-speed or the aperture, because it is non-existent in the hardware, but there can be an interpolation of both values that are calculated from ISO settings and exposure calculation. It won't be perfect in any way, but it might be possible to do something similar... probably it is possible to gain more control via the ndk or by "cheating".
Thanks Flokey!
Does anyone knows if there is such a program?
I don't think a long shutter on todays camera phones would be useful as the sensor noise would be crazy bad.
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Fv-5 camera in the market. Try that
someone would suggest it as a "must buy"? did you notice quality gain in pictures and/or videos????
CaFFeiNe666 said:
someone would suggest it as a "must buy"? did you notice quality gain in pictures and/or videos????
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tried some shots with free version
photos, usually it hase lower is and faster timings, both with or without flash (sometimes razr uses so high isos with flash... 800+, camera ics uses 100 200, with no lighting difference)
some photos have a little better details in indoor, but also have a little more jpeg noise reduction... so usually better...
for videos..
couldn't set more than 1280, and 16fps, and no audio regolations (this is a huge pro for razr camera...)
probably isn't so worth, also cause i have camera zoom fx. camera advance, cameramx, camera360, if i want to shot better photos, with a lot more controls...
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Essential Phone come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
A few shots taken on the latest camera update whilst visiting Westonbirt UK.
Delete this plse
I put together a couple low light camera comparisons. The only editing done to the original photos was cropping to get things to line up as well as I could.
First, Essential stock camera app (NMI81C) vs Essential with Google Camera port: here
Second, Essential with Google Camera port vs Nexus 6 with Stock Google Camera: here
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I put together a couple low light camera comparisons. The only editing done to the original photos was cropping to get things to line up as well as I could.
First, Essential stock camera app (NMI81C) vs Essential with Google Camera port: here
Second, Essential with Google Camera port vs Nexus 6 with Stock Google Camera: here
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Links aren't working for me
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Links aren't working for me
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Should be fixed now. Moved the images to imgur because Google Photos is dumb (for sharing individual images).
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I put together a couple low light camera comparisons. The only editing done to the original photos was cropping to get things to line up as well as I could.
First, Essential stock camera app (NMI81C) vs Essential with Google Camera port: here
Second, Essential with Google Camera port vs Nexus 6 with Stock Google Camera: here
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Thx... Looks great.
Seems like the Nexus port is the best solution
really like the slider in the sample pictures! great idea. so google camera port is the way to go.
Question: Can you also take shot in 16:9 instead of 4:3
All current media viewers like any phone or TV set is 16:9 so i prefer to shoot in that screen dimension
Essential Phone camera experience is still a mixed bag. Regular pics using stock Essential app range from very good to poor depending on lighting. Much better with Google cam port but still not as good as most current flagships or even some older phones like Nexus 6P/ 5x, original Pixel or OnePlus 3T. Using the monochrome camera on this phone is a completely different story. Black and White pics look outstanding with great detail.
Trying out portrait mode for the first time today. Not too bad, I think.
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Trying out portrait mode for the first time today. Not too bad, I think.
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That's a really good picture I think. I only have issues in low light.
Here is one of mine. Harsh mid day light as well.
Here are some photos taken with the Google Camera Mod:
Foggy River Rail Trail by celticchrys, on Flickr
Brulee! by celticchrys, on Flickr
At Dusk by celticchrys, on Flickr
Photo Taken Today with my Essential Phone, I really can't see what people are complaining about regarding the camera ? it's great. For the price the phone is selling for the Essential Phone is a complete and perfect package.
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Photo Taken Today with my Essential Phone, I really can't see what people are complaining about regarding the camera ? it's great. For the price the phone is selling for the Essential Phone is a complete and perfect package.
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that is because you didn't make a real low light photo without flash! the Google cam mod is a must! way better algorithms to fix the pixelation in low light photos!
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that is because you didn't make a real low light photo without flash! the Google cam mod is a must! way better algorithms to fix the pixelation in low light photos!
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For a real low light photo I'd be using a proper camera and not rely on a phone to take the photo. I have the Mate 10 and even that with its brilliant camera I don't use in real low light conditions so either way I took this photo in a pitch black room with the Essential Phone using its camera and I can't see any pixellation anywhere
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For a real low light photo I'd be using a proper camera and not rely on a phone to take the photo. I have the Mate 10 and even that with its brilliant camera I don't use in real low light conditions so either way I took this photo in a pitch black room with the Essential Phone using its camera and I can't see any pixellation anywhere
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If you don't understand why don't you go back to the first page and look at the link with the direct comparison of the exact same shot essential camera vs gcamera. It shows the very clear reason why it's worth while.
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If you don't understand why don't you go back to the first page and look at the link with the direct comparison of the exact same shot essential camera vs gcamera. It shows the very clear reason why it's worth while.
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I have both essential and gcamera and what I'm saying is on my handset I don't see a massive difference
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I have both essential and gcamera and what I'm saying is on my handset I don't see a massive difference
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I actually find that the stock app normally performs much better than GCam in mid-low light. I use GCam only in the sun.
GCam tends to try to bring out way too much detail in the image, resulting in a picture that just looks like a grainy mess.
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I actually find that the stock app normally performs much better than GCam in mid-low light. I use GCam only in the sun.
GCam tends to try to bring out way too much detail in the image, resulting in a picture that just looks like a grainy mess.
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Agreed, I find the stock camera is taking better shots than any of the Google camera apk's I've tried. Granted, most of my testing has been indoors.
How does the camera quality on snapchat look?
After oreo update my camera quality turned from great to sometimes impressive to pure disappointment. Photos come out blurry with no details on objects or faces or hair. Is there a way to fix it? I took a look at the settings everything is set to its max quality setting. Hdr did nothing to improve results, same bad quality with auto, on or off. Google camera app also produces similar quality results. Any suggestions?
I can say, without doubt, it has something to do with your phone specifically.
Have the stock Oreo update here, both front and back cameras work fantastically. Nothing like you describe.
First, I'd try a factory reset, make sure the lenses are clean, and re-check them.
You didn't mention if you were referring to the back or front camera.
Selfies with the LG app are still awful, as they were with Nougat, although in Oreo there is a slider to adjust the level of image processing, But even at the minimal level when you zoom in it looks like a brush drawing.
The above problem can be completely overcome using the ported GCam app, discussed extensively in other threads.
In contrast, the native camera app does an excellent job with the main cameras in most scenarios, especially with the new "bright mode" in very low light situations.
Again, in certain situations the Gcam does a slightly better job. The main issue with GCam is that it uses "bursts" of photos and then HDR processing to make these great sharp photos. This works great in static situations but if the subject is moving (like with children) there will inevitably be blur of the subject. In these situations the LG app does a better job.
Since you are reporting a problem specific to your device there is probably no "fix" other than try resetting it, use Gcam, or there is physical damage to your camera.
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After oreo update my camera quality turned from great to sometimes impressive to pure disappointment. Photos come out blurry with no details on objects or faces or hair. Is there a way to fix it? I took a look at the settings everything is set to its max quality setting. Hdr did nothing to improve results, same bad quality with auto, on or off. Google camera app also produces similar quality results. Any suggestions?
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Again, in certain situations the Gcam does a slightly better job. The main issue with GCam is that it uses "bursts" of photos and then HDR processing to make these great sharp photos. This works great in static situations but if the subject is moving (like with children) there will inevitably be blur of the subject. In these situations the LG app does a better job.
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Haven't run into that problem with the Gcam I'm using. Though I use normal HDR+ and not HDR+ enhanced.
Yeah sorry for not fully describing the issue. I have some pre update photos from the back main sensor as well as the wide angle one that look fantastic , after I updated to oreo , everything turned blurry and washed out. Will try to factory reset the phone and take some sample shots to check if there is any difference . Thank you all for the replies.
Let down by the same issue.post oreo update the photographs from back camera are overexposed and washed out and the colour accuracy and clarity has taken a kick in the gut.
Same here, since the Q Lens option has appeared on the screen.I still have my lgg4 and thats crystal
What about try to replace Oreo camera with Nougat (7.0) one? It would be nice to compare pics from both versions in Oreo (any download Nougat camera only?).
This is probably going to be am unpopular opinion but does anyone else think that the Pixel 6 camera sucks? Pics straight out of device are a) over sharpened and b) flat. The canned filters are poor too. Enhance does nearly nothing, dynamic is a circuis like sharpening and contrast+saturation, and the rest are such ugly color casts which makes them useless. None of the filters have a "strength" slider to control the magnitude of the effect. Yet the sky filters that have the exact same names and function all have strength sliders. WTF Google?
I was hoping that Google has taken SnapSeed and incorporated it into the default camera in some dumbed down format so as not to confuse the general user. Wishful thinking. Not only that, I can't seem to find a way to tweak the default settings to my liking.
On an ongoing trip the images from my wife's 18 month old Fruit 12 max wiped the floor with the Pixel 6. This is from man Apple hater who will never own a fruit themed device.
To summarize my experience with the Pixel 6 so far; ****ty fingerprint reader, ****ty camera. Alas I dislike Samsung products almost as much as the fruity ones. If OnePlus had not decided to take heavy handed approach to Oxygen OS 12 I would be rocking a OnePlus 9 instead and be content.
I've noticed the over sharpened on some pics and just a general overall look I didn't like right away with the pixel 6. This last week I have done a bunch of night sight pics in the same location I did last year with my pixel 2 and the pixel 6 absolutely looks better in every way. I'm sure the improved night sight is the updated hardware but google needs to work on their eye candy AI for the new sensors in other situations.
Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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This is probably going to be am unpopular opinion but does anyone else think that the Pixel 6 camera sucks? Pics straight out of device are a) over sharpened and b) flat. The canned filters are poor too. Enhance does nearly nothing, dynamic is a circuis like sharpening and contrast+saturation, and the rest are such ugly color casts which makes them useless. None of the filters have a "strength" slider to control the magnitude of the effect. Yet the sky filters that have the exact same names and function all have strength sliders. WTF Google?
I was hoping that Google has taken SnapSeed and incorporated it into the default camera in some dumbed down format so as not to confuse the general user. Wishful thinking. Not only that, I can't seem to find a way to tweak the default settings to my liking.
On an ongoing trip the images from my wife's 18 month old Fruit 12 max wiped the floor with the Pixel 6. This is from man Apple hater who will never own a fruit themed device.
To summarize my experience with the Pixel 6 so far; ****ty fingerprint reader, ****ty camera. Alas I dislike Samsung products almost as much as the fruity ones. If OnePlus had not decided to take heavy handed approach to Oxygen OS 12 I would be rocking a OnePlus 9 instead and be content.
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Sent the Pixel 6 back and get a refund.
It is the simplest solution.
Not really, since real alternatives are scarce..
I really enjoy the camera. It's been taking phenomenal pictures for me. They will update the camera more as well and with Google's history I see it being very good.
I just got this phone yesterday, made Few photos and I am coming from a Galaxy note 20 ultra... I have to say I am impressed with the camera but for sure it does not live up to the hype on the internet. My Galaxy note 20 ultra makes as good if not better photos and to top all that I was comparing my photos last night with a friend's Huawei 40 pro ... And his photos were as good and in some cases better (some mine were better but less so) 5han the Google pixel 6... Just say both those phones are over a year old.
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Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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Did you ever try Photoshop Express fpr RAW processing?
Yes i tried but the engine is the same between lightroom and photoshop express hence results are same. PS has better retouch capabilities if you need these.
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Yes i tried but the engine is the same between lightroom and photoshop express
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Tbats what I was hoping
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Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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Thanks for saying this. So I didn't have to.
I find the camera pretty crappy if I'm honest. Detail in all of my pictures, including in well lit areas, are mediocre at best.
Night mode is absolutely useless too. If I compare it to my old Huawei Mate 20 Pro night mode pictures, there is no comparison.
Thinking of getting rid of the Pixel and getting something with an actual decent camera.
Pixel shots have a very specific look. It's not always realistic but it's beautiful. Live HDR and zero shutter lag are so nice.
If you're coming from a OnePlus phone, it can be a literal night and day difference in quality.
Is it possible that it is the selfie images that is breaking the camera?
What hype was there with this camera? Sure it has a new sensor that was talked about quite a bit, but everyone was saying that they picture quality was NOT different than the older Pixel models.
It is different but you need to try raw shooting to see the differences. Google's jpeg processing is far too aggressive regarding noise reduction so the small details are lost and stock jpegs look similar to older pixels. I will take some pictures these days to show the difference between stock jpeg and one converted from raw.
Here are links to stock jpeg from phone and one generated from raw file via adobe lightroom:
JPEG from raw:
jpeg from raw.jpg
drive.google.com
Stock jpeg:
stock jpeg.jpg
drive.google.com
For me the raw file generated by the pixel 6 (especially with night mode) is very good. It has a lot of detail and low amount of noise. In this case i have not applied any post processing except the auto button in adobe lightroom mobile hence no noise reduction and sharpening at all. If you prefer sharper and cleaner picture this raw file can handle both without any problem. Comparing the two pictures main problems with google's stock jpeg looks to be following:
1. Too much sharpening
2. Too aggressive HDR bringing up some nasty noise from the shadows
3. Too aggressive noise reduction. IT is not only very aggressive removing some fine details but it is also applied in different levels in different zones causing patches which are more smeared than the rest of the picture. For me this looks very ugly.
As i doubt that google will give us and settings to adjust jpeg processing my advice to everybody looking to get the most from the camera is to shoot raw with night mode on even in daylight and process the raw file the way they like it. It is always good to also have the raw file as backup because software constantly improves and in future you may get even better results from the old raw files.
I don't like the main camera for close subjects, the depth of field drop off is too shallow for my liking and the focus area is small causing soft edges due to the large sensor.
People who take pictures of food a lot might have a love hate relationship.
It is also annoying to scan qr codes due to the soft edges.
And what about that main camera for video calling on duo or whatsapp? Is it crappy only for me or are you guys experiencing the same?
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Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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Wow, you have just made my day