Important! Please read before tweaking your Mi 8 - Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and you have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using MiFlash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects MIUI.
What this means: You cannot rollback to an older Miui version (Below Android 8.0) if you already you are currently on Andorid Oreo (i.e Miui 10) and up.
Common mistake(s):
1. Do not restore an old backup with Miui that has any Android version less than 8.0 from Miui 10 ( Android 8.0)
2. Do not install Miui 9 (Below Android 8.0) after installing Miui 10 (Android 8.0 Above)
*As of now: Developer version with ARB=1 has no ARB activated and it is safe to downgrade.*
*Tip: Ask yourself if the Android version you are about to install is lower than the Android version currently installed, if it is, DO NOT flash it. (Applicable if you are currently on Android 8.0 and up)
3. Downgrading/Upgrading Miui Roms with Locked Bootloader.
Same rules applies: Global Variant use Global Miui Rom, China Variant use China Miui Rom
* Switching between Stable and Developer on locked bootloader possible: Use Miflash or Xiaomi Tool. (Upgrading use updater app "select package"option)
4. Safetynet/ Playstore Certification with unlock bootloader.
You can pass Safetynet with Magisk 17.1 onwards for use with Banking/Payment apps
More info:
* Flash Magisk upon clean wipe and after flashing your Rom.
* Dm-verity & Force encryption disabler is required.Download and flash before first boot from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
* Encryption must be diabled for Magisk to work. Therefore encryption is not possible if you wish to pass Safetynet.
Please keep all of this in mind before you start tweaking your phone as you will run the risk of bricking your Mi 8/SE. After which, your Mi 8 becomes a very expensive paperweight. I hope this helps to clear things up for many people! Do know that while I disagree with Xiaomi's new anti-consumer policy, i also feel that it is YOUR responsiblility in your own actions, especially when you decide to modify your device and when you do modify anything (not just phones), there are always risks involved. When in doubt, it does no harm to Google it or just ask around in the forums. Moral of the story: Proceed with caution!
For those already bricked:
1. Contact Xiaomi Customer Service and try obtain EDL permission to peform Testpoint fix.
2. Bring your phone to a Mi Store and hope that they can help you with it.
*In the case where my information is wrong, please correct me so that I can update accordingly for the benefit of everyone!
Have a nice day ahead and all the best in your phone tweaking adventures! Hopefully I helped you in clearing things up :good:
Last update: 12/11/2018

Thanks!

I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well

felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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Same with mw, went back from 8.8.7 to 9.5.13.0 via fastboot --> no problems

felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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Same thing to me. I was not happy with the buggy MIUI10 CHina Dev Version and flashed via Fastboot 9.5.13 global stable.
Everything works fine.

I think this new policy of Xiaomi sow, but if they want so. That they release at least the EDL Module for users that present the invoice of the device, showing that they have bought and are in trouble. The international market is very large, and those who live in other regions end up with hands tied and with a paper weight in hand. Since there are no Authorized in each country.

Thanks for your great and Important notifications.
1- Totally agree for note # 1 ( 1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone ).
2- For note #2 (2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects Miui), i think as long as you are not downgrading to lower android version its fine regardless MIUI version.

felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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JoB46 said:
Same with mw, went back from 8.8.7 to 9.5.13.0 via fastboot --> no problems
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magnum2323 said:
Same thing to me. I was not happy with the buggy MIUI10 CHina Dev Version and flashed via Fastboot 9.5.13 global stable.
Everything works fine.
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anasmhds said:
Thanks for your great and Important notifications.
1- Totally agree for note # 1 ( 1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone ).
2- For note #2 (2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects Miui), i think as long as you are not downgrading to lower android version its fine regardless MIUI version.
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Thanks for all your info, i have updated the OP for greater clarity!

The Mi 8 doesn't have anti rollback at the moment.
I never seen such many post about bricked phones ever in my entire life, the only thing i've read about this phone and the note 5 is post about bricked phone.
It is a crazy amount of ppl that have already bricked their phones.
Truly amazing, never seen this before.

NO ARB system on Mi 8 yet. The current situation is the china variant flashes Global Rom forgot to uncheck the lock bootloader on Miflash tool and ended up bricking.

It is important to add information about Xiaomi Deep Flash Cable which can help flash already bricked devices migrated from Chinese to Global and accidently locked bootloader. No EDL authorization needed as far as I read.

masterakalin said:
It is important to add information about Xiaomi Deep Flash Cable which can help flash already bricked devices migrated from Chinese to Global and accidently locked bootloader. No EDL authorization needed as far as I read.
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Really? I've seen a few threads some time ago saying that deep flash cable would not work

Kernel code is released apparently ! https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...xplorer-edition-kernel-source-code-available/

achickennugget said:
Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and ou have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using Mi Flash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
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I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?

PedroCaseiro said:
I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
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Global variant must have global ROM, China variant must have China ROM. Relocking is possible if u follow the rule above. Global phone with China ROM, relocking will brick, vice versa. Be careful! :good:

PedroCaseiro said:
I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
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One more thing, don't relock after installing magisk, it either wouldn't relock as boot.img is modified or u will probably soft brick. U cant modify boot if u want to relock, correct me if I'm wrong

But relock the bootloader when I´m on Global Rom will work when I use a Global device?

achickennugget said:
One more thing, don't relocking after installing magisk, it either wouldn't relocking as boot.img is modified or u will probably soft rock. U cant modify boot if I want to relocking, correct me if I'm wrong
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Ahhh yes, because Magisk modifies boot.img
You're probably right
Thanks

martin192 said:
But relock the bootloader when I´m on Global Rom will work when I use a Global device?
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Yes

I bought my Mi8 and it had a fake Global ROM, it was a modified Chinese MIUI that looked like global with unlocked bootloader via the unofficial way .
So I locked the bootloader and installed MIUI 10 Beta China Developer and I am waiting 30 days for the official unlock . When the time comes how can I install Global stable MIUI 10 or at least the latest Global stable ?

Related

whats your opinion about Xiaomi's Anti Rollback system

MIUI 10 Global Beta 8.7.5 adds anti-rollback protection: Do not downgrade your Redmi Note 5 Plus/Pro
Many users that have tried to downgrade their Redmi Note 5 Pro smartphones without knowing about this restriction have now ended up with a bricked device.
Xiaomi says that those who have updated devices to MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM 8.7.5 or ROM afterwards, should not try to downgrade the ROM of your device. “Otherwise, your device will be bricked, which may also affect your device stability. If your device has been bricked, please go to the nearest Mi service centre for help,” says the company.
So think what you think about this Anti Rollback system ??
for updates please join
http://t.me/RedmiNote5India
Some people on miui forum said that they was able to downgrade from 8.7.10 global beta to 9.6.2.0 stable and it works.
mohsiin4u said:
MIUI 10 Global Beta 8.7.5 adds anti-rollback protection: Do not downgrade your Redmi Note 5 Plus/Pro...
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A very good reason to dump miui forever.
mohsiin4u said:
So think what you think about this Anti Rollback system ??
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I think they should have warned users about this, I was really lucky I didn't downgraded, I'm on MIUI 10 Global Beta and today even got an update, MIUI 10 has many bugs and I really did think about downgrading to miui9 but I choose to stay on miui 10 for another 12-13 days and unlock bootloader afterwards.
I'd hoped Xiaomi would offer an instant unlock to those with bricked devices. I would have bricked my phone on purpose for an instant unlock
I think you always can test-point flash even with bricked device
Most of brands do actually the same and inclusive since nougat to MM downgrade it´s not an option for devices running stock roms so that is present from previous versions; Samsung, Huawei, Honor and many more, only with some tricky and unauthorized method this can do it. But for Xiaomi unlocked with a custom recovery and running custom roms this is possible at any time.

Miui Stable vs Developer

Hi guys,sorry for this stupid question but after the xiaomi's news about the bootloader re-lock that causes a brick...i'm not sure of anything...so i'im asking this
I bought a mi8 6/64 global version(bootloader locked) so i think that is coming with the global stable.
So if i want to put the global developer can i just download the package from miui website and then install it from.the system update settings on the smartphone without problems?
Like bricks,errors or something weird? ?
If yes...afyer that,can i come back to the global stable without issues?
please just use the search function!!! https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/please-read-tweaking-mi-8-t3833454
achickennugget said:
please just use the search function!!! https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/please-read-tweaking-mi-8-t3833454
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Sorry but i can't find the answer to my question.
Ok for unlocked bootloader and china/global.
Ok for anti rollback for android 8/9.
But my question is about a Mi8 with locked bootlader and Global stable and developer
xandreasx said:
Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and ou have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using Mi Flash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects MIUI.
What this means: You cannot rollback to an older Miui version (Below Android 8.0) if you already you are currently on Andorid Oreo (i.e Miui 10) and up.
Common mistake(s):
1. Do not restore an old backup with Miui that has any Android version less than 8.0 from Miui 10 ( Android 8.0)
2. Do not install Miui 9 (Below Android 8.0) after installing Miui 10 (Android 8.0 Above)
*Tip: Ask yourself if the Android version you are about to install is lower than the Android version currently installed, if it is, DO NOT flash it. (Applicable if you are currently on Android 8.0 and up)
Please keep all of this in mind before you start tweaking your phone as you will run the risk of bricking your Mi 8/SE. After which, your Mi 8 becomes a very expensive paperweight. I hope this helps to clear things up for many people! Do know that while I disagree with Xiaomi's new anti-consumer policy, i also feel that it is YOUR responsiblility in your own actions, especially when you decide to modify your device and when you do modify anything (not just phones), there are always risks involved. When in doubt, it does no harm to Google it or just ask around in the forums. Moral of the story: Proceed with caution!
For those already bricked:
1. Contact Xiaomi Customer Service and try obtain edl permission to peform Testpoint fix.
2. Bring your phone to a Mi Store and hope that they can help you with it.
*In the case where my information is wrong, please correct me so that I can update accordingly for the benefit of everyone!
Have a nice day ahead and all the best in your phone tweaking adventures! Hopefully I helped you in clearing things up
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You mean this?
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achickennugget said:
xandreasx said:
Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and ou have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using Mi Flash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects MIUI.
What this means: You cannot rollback to an older Miui version (Below Android 8.0) if you already you are currently on Andorid Oreo (i.e Miui 10) and up.
Common mistake(s):
1. Do not restore an old backup with Miui that has any Android version less than 8.0 from Miui 10 ( Android 8.0)
2. Do not install Miui 9 (Below Android 8.0) after installing Miui 10 (Android 8.0 Above)
*Tip: Ask yourself if the Android version you are about to install is lower than the Android version currently installed, if it is, DO NOT flash it. (Applicable if you are currently on Android 8.0 and up)
Please keep all of this in mind before you start tweaking your phone as you will run the risk of bricking your Mi 8/SE. After which, your Mi 8 becomes a very expensive paperweight. I hope this helps to clear things up for many people! Do know that while I disagree with Xiaomi's new anti-consumer policy, i also feel that it is YOUR responsiblility in your own actions, especially when you decide to modify your device and when you do modify anything (not just phones), there are always risks involved. When in doubt, it does no harm to Google it or just ask around in the forums. Moral of the story: Proceed with caution!
For those already bricked:
1. Contact Xiaomi Customer Service and try obtain edl permission to peform Testpoint fix.
2. Bring your phone to a Mi Store and hope that they can help you with it.
*In the case where my information is wrong, please correct me so that I can update accordingly for the benefit of everyone!
Have a nice day ahead and all the best in your phone tweaking adventures! Hopefully I helped you in clearing things up
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You mean this?
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I have the bootloader that is locked and i would like to leave it locked.
Then, is it possibile to change rom from GLOBAL STABLE to GLOBAL DEVELOPER without unlocking the bootloader and making other "modding things"?
Then(only if the 2 roms have the same android,so not now) can i switch back from DEVELOPER to STABLE (with locked bootloader and only if they have the same android version)?
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xandreasx said:
achickennugget said:
I have the bootloader that is locked and i would like to leave it locked.
Then, is it possibile to change rom from GLOBAL STABLE to GLOBAL DEVELOPER without unlocking the bootloader and making other "modding things"?
Then(only if the 2 roms have the same android,so not now) can i switch back from DEVELOPER to STABLE (with locked bootloader and only if they have the same android version)?
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I see what you mean, so yours is the global version and you want to flash without unlocking, http://en.miui.com/thread-720781-1-1.html (google search). Yes u can, from my personal experience, upgrading shouldn't require data wipe, but if you downgrade be prepared to wipe data, thats the only drawback, but you can definitely do it without a bootloader unlock using XiaomiTool or Miflash as well. For upgrading to developer just use updater app and select package, if not possible then miflash. Be careful flashing, you shouldnt have any problems as of now as long as you stay away from China rom. Miui roms are all ARB:1 which means ARB not yet activated, so downgrade possible. Have a good day ahead and have fun with your new Mi 8, it is a great phone (apart from the EDL lock **** Xiaomi pulled)
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you can switch from global to dev with locked bootloader. Just download the dev of Android 8.1 and install it via settings - choose package, this will format the phone. Then you will get the Android 9 8.11.8 update
Thank you guys!
Perfect!
xandreasx said:
Thank you guys!
Perfect!
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No problem have a good day ahead, shall add this to my megathread
achickennugget said:
No problem have a good day ahead, shall add this to my megathread
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Thank you,you too!
Yes,please add it.
Maybe for the "normal" XDA users it's too easy and obvious...but not for me xD
Sorry guys if i bother you again.
But someone just told me that, yes it's possible to change from global stable to global developer but that i should have the same Android version (in this case right now stable is 8 and developer 9).
Otherwise i should unlock the bootloader and then i can switch...
What do you think?
Download http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.7/miui_MI8Global_8.9.7_fb7963a71d_8.1.zip and install it via phone updater.
That ROM was the last beta Android Oreo published.
After installing it, you'll receive an OTA update of the current beta ROM 8.11.8 Android Pie.
Done.
Hi xandreasx,
did you do it? Did it work? I tried and it did not work. If it worked could you send me the link where you downloaded it?
Greetz
Naturekid
plouprou said:
Download http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.7/miui_...63a71d_8.1.zip and install it via phone updater.
That ROM was the last beta Android Oreo published.
After installing it, you'll receive an OTA update of the current beta ROM 8.11.8 Android Pie.
Done.
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Thank you!
Good idea! But the link is not working
xandreasx said:
Thank you!
Good idea! But the link is not working
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Sorry!. Try this --> http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.7/miui_MI8Global_8.9.7_fb7963a71d_8.1.zip
plouprou said:
Sorry!. Try this --> http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.7/miui_MI8Global_8.9.7_fb7963a71d_8.1.zip
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Thank you so much!!!!
xandreasx said:
Hi guys,sorry for this stupid question but after the xiaomi's news about the bootloader re-lock that causes a brick...i'm not sure of anything...so i'im asking this
I bought a mi8 6/64 global version(bootloader locked) so i think that is coming with the global stable.
So if i want to put the global developer can i just download the package from miui website and then install it from.the system update settings on the smartphone without problems?
Like bricks,errors or something weird?
If yes...afyer that,can i come back to the global stable without issues?
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Here the answer: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/help/upgrade-to-pie-global-beta-global-t3864071
Im on Global Rom 10.0.3.0 with unlock bootloader
Now i want to switch to global beta rom
Is there any changes that i can keep my data (image, sms, call log, apps data...)
datbuidoi said:
Im on Global Rom 10.0.3.0 with unlock bootloader
Now i want to switch to global beta rom
Is there any changes that i can keep my data (image, sms, call log, apps data...)
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You can keep your data only if you do a backup before switching to beta
I have global stable 10.0.3.0 on global mi 8, locked bootloader. I downloaded 8.9.7 Global dev but the updater app says that it's not allowed to update to an unofficial rom. What version of oreo global dev do I have to flash?

downgrade from MIUI 10 to MIUI 8.12.20

I have Xiaomi Mi 8 with MIUI 10.2.1.0 Global Stable and I would like to downgrade to MIUI 8.12.20. so I have 2 questions :
* Where to download the MIUI 8.12.20 rom ?
* How to downgrade from MIUI Stable 10.2.1.0 to MIUI 10 8.12.20 ?
I'm a new user of Xiaomi phones, I have no idea from where to start. I google those questions and I read a lot of contradictory informations (some says that it's not possible to downgrade, others says that you just have to flash it, ...). I installed android device bridge and fastboot. Also applied to unlock the bootloader today so I have to wait a while to be able to unlock it for real.
Can you please help me ?
If you can unlock your bootloader you can use mi flash and fastboot to flash beta rom.
Wysłane z mojego MI 8 przy użyciu Tapatalka
you can download recovery rom from en.miui.com and flash though updater app in system settings, backup your data first it will clean all device data
Thank you for your answer. I read that the rollback protection will brick the phone if I try to install a older version my rom. A beta version will skip that check ?
Why would going from android pie stable to android pie beta ever trigger arb?
Actually the entire premise makes no sense... 8.12.20? Stable? Wat?
Miui 8 on mi 8? Wat?
kowakx said:
you can download recovery rom from en.miui.com and flash though updater app in system settings, backup your data first it will clean all device data
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Is it possible to download old version of miui from en.miui.com? I only found the latest version there and I'm looking for miui 10 8.12.20.
Stoffl_ said:
Why would going from android pie stable to android pie beta ever trigger arb?
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Does the version of miui change anything? Or it is only the android version? If it is only android version it's easier.
https://www.fonearena.com/blog/234653/different-versions-of-miui-explained.html
You need to to read this and then come back and explain what you're trying to do.
8.12.20 is a 3 week old global beta release
Stoffl_ said:
https://www.fonearena.com/blog/234653/different-versions-of-miui-explained.html
You need to to read this and then come back and explain what you're trying to do.
8.12.20 is a 3 week old global beta release
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12-20 is the firmware version most recommend for installing custom roms
Stoffl_ said:
https://www.fonearena.com/blog/234653/different-versions-of-miui-explained.html
You need to to read this and then come back and explain what you're trying to do.
8.12.20 is a 3 week old global beta release
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Ok thanks. So I'm on a stable miui 10 build 2.1.0 and I need to install developer build from 3 weeks ago (probably miui 10 but not sure).
I'm trying to install the required version of miui to install havoc ROM. It is written in the ROM requirement that I need to install 8.12.20 and then flash the ROM on top of it.
So if I got it, I need to wait for the unlocking of the bootloader and then install the developer build.
Does it change something if I download the MIUI 8.12.20 from xiaomi.eu ? I don't find that rom on en.miui.com. Do you know any trusted source to download ROM ?
Agimax said:
12-20 is the firmware version most recommend for installing custom roms
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Good to know. Thanks for the information.
Can someone confirm that there is no risk to flash miui Dev 8.12.20 on top on miui global stable 10.2.1.0 ? No risk for arb ?
And is it possible to reinstall an official version of miui in the future after flashing developer build then custom ROM ?
​Yes you'll need to unlock bootloader to install custom rom.
No you dont have to wait to install global beta, you can do that straight from the miui updater on your phone (three dots \ choose update package)
It'll factory reset your phone.
I don't know if you can go from 10.2.x.x stable straight to 8.12.20 beta but the updater will tell you.
Worst case you'll have to downgrade to an earlier stable release first.
The miui updater will never allow you two trigger arb and arb will only ever get triggered when trying to downgrade the ANDROID version.
Google to find out how to check the current status of arb via adb
Stoffl_ said:
​Yes you'll need to unlock bootloader to install custom rom.
No you dont have to wait to install global beta, you can do that straight from the miui updater on your phone (three dots \ choose update package)
It'll factory reset your phone.
I don't know if you can go from 10.2.x.x stable straight to 8.12.20 beta but the updater will tell you.
Worst case you'll have to downgrade to an earlier stable release first.
The miui updater will never allow you two trigger arb and arb will only ever get triggered when trying to downgrade the ANDROID version.
Google to find out how to check the current status of arb via adb
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To move from stable to beta I need to unlock the bootloader and this operation takes a while if I understood coreectly. I just applied to unlock my bootloader so I presume I have to wait around 15 days to be able to start, is it correct ?
I did not get why I would have to pass by an earlier stable release first, can you give me more informations please?
Thank you, really appreciate. Was completely lost regarding all those things.
X4R said:
Is it possible to download old version of miui from en.miui.com? I only found the latest version there and I'm looking for miui 10 8.12.20.
Does the version of miui change anything? Or it is only the android version? If it is only android version it's easier.
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Yes you can download from xiaomi servers but you needa link, here it is:
http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.12.20/miui_MI8Global_8.12.20_c7a9af8587_9.0.zip
Stable versions use older sources than weekly version
kowakx said:
Yes you can download from xiaomi servers but you needa link, here it is:
http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.12.20/miui_MI8Global_8.12.20_c7a9af8587_9.0.zip
Stable versions use older sources than weekly version
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Is it the official global dev rom ? Thank you
Another question to install my new rom, which version of TWRP should I install ? There are many version for xiaomi (wzsx, FireDance-Edition, and many others). Is there any difference ? I just want TWRP, but I don't understand why there are so many different versions of the same recovery for the same phone... Someone understood that ?
EDIT: a user from xiaomi.eu told me to take TWRP FireDance-Edition for the many languages included. Is it a good choice ?
X4R said:
I have Xiaomi Mi 8 with MIUI 10.2.1.0 Global Stable and I would like to downgrade to MIUI 8.12.20. so I have 2 questions :
* Where to download the MIUI 8.12.20 rom ?
* How to downgrade from MIUI Stable 10.2.1.0 to MIUI 10 8.12.20 ?
I'm a new user of Xiaomi phones, I have no idea from where to start. I google those questions and I read a lot of contradictory informations (some says that it's not possible to downgrade, others says that you just have to flash it, ...). I installed android device bridge and fastboot. Also applied to unlock the bootloader today so I have to wait a while to be able to unlock it for real.
Can you please help me ?
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Well, 8.12.20 it's based on MIUI10. If you want to go Beta, just flash 9.1.10 Global Beta, that it's the latest build.
There's a ton of guide on official en.miui.com, just follow them!
zSyntex said:
Well, 8.12.20 it's based on MIUI10. If you want to go Beta, just flash 9.1.10 Global Beta, that it's the latest build.
There's a ton of guide on official en.miui.com, just follow them!
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My goal is not go Beta but to install Havoc. In the first post of the rom he says, first install 8.12.20 and then flash the rom. That's why i'm asking for that specific version.
X4R said:
My goal is not go Beta but to install Havoc. In the first post of the rom he says, first install 8.12.20 and then flash the rom. That's why i'm asking for that specific version.
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9.1.10 is better than 8.12.20, and as I said on Havoc thread the 8.12.20 is the minimum base firmware required, not the only one.
Feel free to try what you want
Other than that, use latest PitchBlack Recovery (based on 3.2.3 TWRP) as recovery.
zSyntex said:
9.1.10 is better than 8.12.20, and as I said on Havoc thread the 8.12.20 is the minimum base firmware required, not the only one.
Feel free to try what you want
Other than that, use latest PitchBlack Recovery (based on 3.2.3 TWRP) as recovery.
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Interesting. Which miui version would be better to take? Is there one more stable than the other? Is it better to install the latest beta and flash havoc on top of it?
Thank you for pitch-black recommandation. Seems to be a fork of twrp, what your motivation to go with that one instead of twrp?
Your help is yeally appreciate Thanks you for taking the time to answer those questions.
I would stick with whatever the ROM maintainer recommends for firmware. See link got -perfect example of why:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78622740&postcount=511
IURII G said:
Use only 8.12.20 vendor+firmvare, 9.1.3 goes to screen lag because of new libs wich did not adapt to current built of ROM
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X4R said:
I have Xiaomi Mi 8 with MIUI 10.2.1.0 Global Stable and I would like to downgrade to MIUI 8.12.20. so I have 2 questions :
* Where to download the MIUI 8.12.20 rom ?
* How to downgrade from MIUI Stable 10.2.1.0 to MIUI 10 8.12.20 ?
I'm a new user of Xiaomi phones, I have no idea from where to start. I google those questions and I read a lot of contradictory informations (some says that it's not possible to downgrade, others says that you just have to flash it, ...). I installed android device bridge and fastboot. Also applied to unlock the bootloader today so I have to wait a while to be able to unlock it for real.
Can you please help me ?
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Just to notice you. If you apply for unlock on stable rom. Dont change to beta, because it will reset your time, and you have to make new apply
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MIUI 12 for curtana

Hello.
Has anybody tried fastboot version of MIUI12 for curtana? https://mirom.ezbox.idv.tw/en/phone/curtana/
you can find other version here https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/curtana/
Installed and being trying it for 3 days now. Everything works perfectly. For my day to day usage I can't say I've noticed any big differences from MIUI 11 (I was using xiaomi.eu 11.0.11.0). Usage does feel smoother and the battery does last longer, although I have no documented evidence to show. I removed the bloatware as per the 11.0.10.0 guide and I've found no bugs. All in all I'm happy with this ROM.
Edit: Just wanted to meantion the MIUI camera app. There are no added features. No clone mode and no kaleidoscope mode. The only difference from the MIUI 11 camera app is the new MIUI 12 visual.
gde.spencer said:
Installed and being trying it for 3 days now. Everything works perfectly. For my day to day usage I can't say I've noticed any big differences from MIUI 11 (I was using xiaomi.eu 11.0.11.0). Usage does feel smoother and the battery does last longer, although I have no documented evidence to show. I removed the bloatware as per the 11.0.10.0 guide and I've found no bugs. All in all I'm happy with this ROM.
Edit: Just wanted to meantion the MIUI camera app. There are no added features. No clone mode and no kaleidoscope mode. The only difference from the MIUI 11 camera app is the new MIUI 12 visual.
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Hey @gde.spencer, where can I find the guide to remove the bloatware? Can I install MIUI 12 on a running custom rom?
Does anybody know if miui 12 for redmi note 9 pro India will fastboot without problems over the miui 11 eea redmi note 9s?
can i install miui 12 turky version on my global note 9s ?
i install miui 12 beta stable in recovery...its like miui 11,,i dont know what xiaomi is doing,,,this phone is just laaging in every thing,,,the smoothest exp i ever had on this phone was with PixelExperience_Plus_curtana-10.0-20200904-1501-OFFICIAL...all rom has lagg ...i hope xiaomi do something to have smooth exp on this phone...i miss my iphone 11
Choceur said:
Hey @gde.spencer, where can I find the guide to remove the bloatware? Can I install MIUI 12 on a running custom rom?
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# Bloatware removal guide for Curtana 11.0.10.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ana-debloat-list-global-miui-11-0-10-t4141253
# The MIUI 12 rom is a fastboot rom so you must flash it through MI Flasher. Make a backup first and search a guide on how to flash without locking the phone again! See this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-9-pro/how-to/tutorial-how-to-revert-to-official-t4109831
Hey @gde.spencer , can you help me to choose the right firmware?
What is the difference between Recovery and Fastboot? Or do you need both?
Which is the better version Global or EEA?
Choceur said:
Hey @gde.spencer , can you help me to choose the right firmware?
What is the difference between Recovery and Fastboot? Or do you need both?
Which is the better version Global or EEA?
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The fastboot version is installed via MiFlash whilst the phone is in fastboot mode. Use this to flash "as new".
The recovery version is like an OTA update (I think. Never used one).
I don't know which version is better (global vs eea) because I flash as a base for custom roms.
I have the Redmi Note 9s 6/128GB Global Model.
I want to flash the Indian Firmware so I will get the MIUI contacts and dialer (and call recorder).
Can someone please check if the Indian ROM has the HEBREW language, it should look like this:"עברית" under languages.
I will be glad for your help.
Honor3c said:
I have the Redmi Note 9s 6/128GB Global Model.
I want to flash the Indian Firmware so I will get the MIUI contacts and dialer (and call recorder).
Can someone please check if the Indian ROM has the HEBREW language, it should look like this:"עברית" under languages.
I will be glad for your help.
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It's there on my miui 12 indian
Honor3c said:
I have the Redmi Note 9s 6/128GB Global Model.
I want to flash the Indian Firmware so I will get the MIUI contacts and dialer (and call recorder).
Can someone please check if the Indian ROM has the HEBREW language, it should look like this:"עברית" under languages.
I will be glad for your help.
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Thank you a lot my good friend, I will now flash it
For anyone else wondering, the Turkish fastboot ROM (QJWTRXM) installs fine on a global Note 9S (QJWMIXM). Everything works as far as I can tell, and all the languages are there (though call recording isn't, at least in the default Google Dialer app).
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Choceur said:
Hey @gde.spencer , can you help me to choose the right firmware?
What is the difference between Recovery and Fastboot? Or do you need both?
Which is the better version Global or EEA?
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Recovery is the "OTA" ROM you install with MIUI's built-in update mechanism or a custom recovery like TWRP. Fastboot is a bit more low-level, you restart your phone into fastboot mode, connect it to a computer and use a program that manually overwrites the data on the phone's partitions, a bit like using dd on Linux or disk cloning/backup software. There's also EDL mode, which is the same as fastboot but it's built into the hardware itself, so it works even if you manage to brick fastboot somehow. On recent Xiaomi phones, it requires an authorized Mi account (or a patched ROM, or someone willing to sell you authorizations over the internet).
Global and EEA are pretty much the same thing, but EEA ROMs are intended for the European Economic Area (the EU) so they have to comply with additional regulations like having to let you choose your browser and search engine or something. As a side note, I live in the EU and pretty much every store over here is selling the Global variant of the 9S instead of the EEA one. Global ROMs are "better" in the sense that they tend to be more up to date (as of me writing this, global is on MIUI V11.0.11 and EEA is still stuck on V11.0.4).

Question MIUI 13 Crashing

So I possess a Redmi Note 10 Indian variant with 4 GB ram. For the past month, I have been using Pixel Experience Plus and it was smooth until the last week's update. Then it came to my notice that I haven't installed the latest MIUI 13 "Firmware" as the developer said. So I got and flashed the Global ROM V13.0.5.0.SKGMIXM (even though my device was shipped with Indian ROM) via Xiaomi Flash because Indian ROM V12.5.6.0.RKGINXM is still in MIUI 12.
Oops! That was probably the worst mistake I had made coz my phone had restarted at least a dozen times unexpectedly even while the phone is locked and unlocked (referring to screen lock) Now it's barely usable.
So here are my questions:
Is this a bug with MIUI or did I mess something up big time?
I use the terms firmware and ROM interchangeably but are they different?
How to install firmware via fastboot?
I know that was a lot of questions but please help me if possible because this is my main device
Thanks a lot
Injector287 said:
So I possess a Redmi Note 10 Indian variant with 4 GB ram. For the past month, I have been using Pixel Experience Plus and it was smooth until the last week's update. Then it came to my notice that I haven't installed the latest MIUI 13 "Firmware" as the developer said. So I got and flashed the Global ROM V13.0.5.0.SKGMIXM (even though my device was shipped with Indian ROM) via Xiaomi Flash because Indian ROM V12.5.6.0.RKGINXM is still in MIUI 12.
Oops! That was probably the worst mistake I had made coz my phone had restarted at least a dozen times unexpectedly even while the phone is locked and unlocked (referring to screen lock) Now it's barely usable.
So here are my questions:
Is this a bug with MIUI or did I mess something up big time?
I use the terms firmware and ROM interchangeably but are they different?
How to install firmware?
Finally, can I safely downgrade my device to the 12.5.6 Indian variant without bricking my device?
I know that was a lot of questions but please help me if possible because this is my main device
Thanks a lot
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First off, don't try to make an update while the device has a kind of lock, either the screen or user encryption (not referring to in-built encryption).
Generically, firmware makes a reference to a specific build, this applies for any ROM, for any device out there.
The set of specific partitions, that are called firmware in the Xiaomi world, are also in any fastboot ROM.
But like the different firmware versions are usually available for almost (if not all) Xiaomi devices, in great part, thanks to @yshalsager, you can just pick up the one you need and flash it before or after (over) any (that supports it or needs it) custom ROM.
Just refer to here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/firmware-redmi-note-10-mojito-auto-updated.4254017/page-3 as you can see, what you need, was there.
Well what i can tell you with experience might enlighten the situation. I changed my rom from global to Indonesian on MIUI 12. It was working very well no lags no issue infact i was loving it . Then came MIUI 13 V13.0.2.0.SKGIDXM.
my phone became like a sluggish snail. A lot of lags, different apps not working really hateful. There was no escape. so after bearing it was 2 months i down graded back to MIUI 12. Now i think i will stay there until some one let me know MIUI 13 is bug free

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