Poco F1 US LTE Bands 2 & 4 Unlock Possible?? (No Longer Being Pursued) - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Current Status as of 10th Nov 2018 - This effort is no longer being pursued.
Mi 8 qcn is available (thx to @JR_44) https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78020802&postcount=184
When I open it in a hex editor to swap out the IMEIs I dont see anything relevant. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78120935&postcount=186
This effort is no longer being pursued. You have @jaimani on xda and also xda (@MishaalRahman) works with Poco in providing free devices to developers so maybe they can ask Poco if this is even possible.
Current Status as of 28th October 2018.
Need qcn backup from Mi8. you will need to be rooted.
How to create one?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/guide-qpst-tool-backup-imei-nvram-t3455297
Current Status as of 26th October 2018.
Can't read NV items for LTE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77641511&postcount=59
If anyone has ideas let us know.
Current Status as of 18th October 2018.
We have backups of modem and fsg from Mi Mix 2S.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77902835&postcount=166
When I try to open fsg backup in a hexeditor I dont get anything useful. So need help with figuring that out.
If anyone has any other ideas on how to unlock the bands (other than QPST) please post here.
RT's are appreciated
https://twitter.com/munchy_cool/status/1046028765892087808
Current Status as of 24th September 2018.
We need modem and efs partitions backup from Mi 8 and Mi Mix 2S.
Current Status as of 17th September 2018.
3G and LTE bands are not stored/referenced at 6828 and 6829 in NV browser. Thanks to @Heronicola for checking. We need to find out where these bands are. so if anyone has an idea, feel free to comment in the thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77641511&postcount=59
Original Post
The Pocophone F1 LTE bands are listed as
1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
However, it is supposed to launched in Mexico and Colombia as well.
Mexico LTE Bands - 2 & 4.
Colombia LTE Bands - 4 & 7
Band 2 and 4 will be very helpful for us US peeps.
Not sure how Xiaomi locks the bands, do they use software? in which QPST should be able to unlock the bands.
or
They lock them via hardware, in which case Poco F1 will have a different model from Mexico and Colombia (and other countries which use Band 2 and Band 4?
QPST
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note/general/unlock-lte-bands-step-step-xiaomi-mi-t3084774
If anyone with a bootloader unlocked and rooted Poco F1 is willing to try QPST and see if the bands can be enabled please post here.
Thanks.

Also following for the answer. Bands 2 and 4 would make it quite viable for T-Mobile service in the US.

Phone has indeed been announced for Colombia (where LTE band 4 is used) and it's already going through Colombia's own certification authority. I would assume that we might be facing a similar situation as with Mi A1 in that the manual said it didn't support LTE band 4 (check the post I just linked to) but on first setup if you chose "Español (Mexico)" as the language, it would enable LTE band 4.

its sad that this phone with the flagship qualcomm sd845 should handle universal lte bands, but somehow in xiaomi phones specially the LTE bands are pretty limited, for example here we use band 28 (700 mhz) and there are no support for that

sagematt said:
Phone has indeed been announced for Colombia (where LTE band 4 is used) and it's already going through Colombia's own certification authority. I would assume that we might be facing a similar situation as with Mi A1 in that the manual said it didn't support LTE band 4 (check the post I just linked to) but on first setup if you chose "Español (Mexico)" as the language, it would enable LTE band 4.
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Hadn't heard about this, with the Mi A1. Very nice fudge, this. If the F1 can be wangled to use band 4 it will be a shot in the arm for north American interest and development

sagematt said:
Phone has indeed been announced for Colombia (where LTE band 4 is used) and it's already going through Colombia's own certification authority. I would assume that we might be facing a similar situation as with Mi A1 in that the manual said it didn't support LTE band 4 (check the post I just linked to) but on first setup if you chose "Español (Mexico)" as the language, it would enable LTE band 4.
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which means that the band might be disabled via software and we should be able to enable it via QPST.

munchy_cool said:
The Pocophone F1 LTE bands are listed as
1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
However, it is supposed to launched in Mexico and Colombia as well. Now, Mexico and Colombia have LTE on Band 2 and Band 4. Band 2 and 4 will be very helpful for us US peeps.
Not sure how Xiaomi locks the bands, do they use software? in which QPST should be able to unlock the bands.
or
They lock them via hardware, in which case Poco F1 will have a different model from Mexico and Colombia (and other countries which use Band 2 and Band 4?
QPST
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/unlocking-bands-t3565979
If anyone with a bootloader unlocked and rooted Poco F1 is willing to try QPST and see if the bands can be enabled please post here.
Thanks.
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thanks to the community it might be possible
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
but it sounds a bit complicated.
ps: interested how anybody got around the bootloader (1440 hours) unlock timer.

munchy_cool said:
Now, Mexico and Colombia have LTE on Band 2 7 and Band 4 (at least in Colombia) . Band 2 and 4 will be very helpful for us US peeps.
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Fixed
As a Colombian citizen, i hope this situation will be as clear as water pretty soon

SebastIAS said:
Fixed
As a Colombian citizen, i hope this situation will be as clear as water pretty soon
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I read on reddit somewhere that Xiaomi has a history of not reporting ALL the bands that their phone can support due to rights issues or something like that. Not sure if this is true.

SebastIAS said:
Fixed
As a Colombian citizen, i hope this situation will be as clear as water pretty soon
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Thanks for correcting me. I was goin going of information I found on the internet.

At the moment isnt present b4 for lte
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At the moment isnt present b4 for lteView attachment 4588565
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like i said in the first post.
need to root and see if other bands can be enabled

Has anyone given this a shot? Would be interesting to see.

chemicalboyxda said:
At the moment isnt present b4 for lteView attachment 4588565
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Change The región to Colombia or México. And try again.
Just like mi A1.

It'd be great if someone could try band 12. The lack of that band is a deal-breaker for T-Mobile in the US on my Mi A1.
Nobody has been able to enable band 12 on phones that don't officially ship with it. This has been the case on the OnePlus One, Mi A1, Mi A2, and more. You can "enable" it in QPST, but it doesn't work.

So, this phone is a no-go for AT&T LTE in the US? Might have to return it if it only supports band 5... shame, I really like the idea of it! Maybe there's a way to enable more bands, but from the other poster, it doesn't really look like it.

whats odd is they disable face ir for other regions

thebigcw said:
So, this phone is a no-go for AT&T LTE in the US? Might have to return it if it only supports band 5... shame, I really like the idea of it! Maybe there's a way to enable more bands, but from the other poster, it doesn't really look like it.
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someone has to try enabling bands 2 & 4 using QPST. The way is mentioned in OP. Unless someone tries, we cannot be sure that you cant enable them.

chico84cam said:
Change The región to Colombia or México. And try again.
Just like mi A1.
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The same... Maybe in the future xiaomi enable this bands with an update or ship another version for latin american countries

chemicalboyxda said:
The same... Maybe in the future xiaomi enable this bands with an update or ship another version for latin american countries
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which app is that buddy?

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[Q] LS990 Spirit which is unlocked would work on ANY lte/gsm?

Hi,
I almost close to buy this model.
I will pass it to a person that lives out of u.s.
The LTE network there: 2600/1800.
The GSM network there: 850/900/2100
He told that the phone is unlocked and he also figuerd it with Sprint.
They (Sprint) told him it will work in any county.
Also mentioned something with "Unlocked by EOD".
BUT:
When i read the specs of the LS990 I see under :
Network: GSM Quad Band/UMTS Tri Band/LTE Tri Band
And Under:
Frequencies: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900/2100, LTE Bands 25/26/41*
I can see that:
GSM - V **The Quad Band is aint someting exclusive to Spirit or U.S networks, right?
UMTS - V **The same regarding the " Tri Banad"
LTE - V **The same regarding the " Tri Banad"
And i can see that the LTE of this model is not something i know heard about in ISRAEL.
We have here 2600 & 1800 frequencies
With all that info' - can u confirm this model is like factory unlocked to work within ANY GSM & LTE global?
Thank you very much!
shabydog said:
Hi,
I almost close to buy this model.
I will pass it to a person that lives out of u.s.
The LTE network there: 2600/1800.
The GSM network there: 850/900/2100
He told that the phone is unlocked and he also figuerd it with Sprint.
They (Sprint) told him it will work in any county.
Also mentioned something with "Unlocked by EOD".
BUT:
When i read the specs of the LS990 I see under :
Network: GSM Quad Band/UMTS Tri Band/LTE Tri Band
And Under:
Frequencies: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900/2100, LTE Bands 25/26/41*
I can see that:
GSM - V **The Quad Band is aint someting exclusive to Spirit or U.S networks, right?
UMTS - V **The same regarding the " Tri Banad"
LTE - V **The same regarding the " Tri Banad"
And i can see that the LTE of this model is not something i know heard about in ISRAEL.
We have here 2600 & 1800 frequencies
With all that info' - can u confirm this model is like factory unlocked to work within ANY GSM & LTE global?
Thank you very much!
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Nope locked down
Sent from my LGLS990 using XDA Premium HD app
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Locked diwn
Sent from my LGLS990 using XDA Premium HD app
pbedard said:
Nope locked down
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Sorry, not all of us are into "this world".
What does "locked down" means in my case?
By the way - the phone comes with a SIM-card slot!
Thanks for your help.
P.S: read this article and looks like it is possible to make a sim unlock within Sprint:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ruary-11-2015-onward-domestically-unlockable/
Look, in the simplest of terms, the Sprint LG G3 is not the model you're looking for. It is not unlocked out the box, and is difficult to unlock properly because it is done through the service provider, in this case Sprint via an OTA method.
Get a proper GSM version.
Final answer i've got from Sprint:
They confirmed the phone will work in any other country.
That the phone is unlocked, that the procedure turned the LG G3 phone to a factory unlocked by all matters, to be used globaly by any LTE / GSM network.
And all i have to do is buy an 128k SIM card in my country and it will work with any carrier.
The rep' said: "it has been Unlocked and will indeed turn the LG G3 phone to a factory unlocked by all matters, to be used global by any LTE / GSM network."
I just need to turn some setting...that's all.
Hope that the rep' is right...but i talked to them few times regarding that thing.
Thanks very much!
Global Language's at language setting - LS990
Hi,
Any of U that own the LS990 from Sprint can check if all the Language's are available?
Thank you very much.
Azerbaycanca
Bahasa Bosanski
Catala Cestina
Dansk Deutsch
Eesti Espanol
Euskara Francais
Fyrom Galego
Hrvatski Islenska
Italiano Kiswahili
Kurdish Latviesu
Lietuviu Magyar
Nederlands Norsk
O'zbekcha Polski
Portugues Romana
Slovencina Slovenscina
Suomi Svenska
Tieng Viet Turkce
(A couple of Asian, Russian, and Arabic language I cant identify due to unrecognizable characters)
cthedogg said:
(A couple of Asian, Russian, and Arabic language I cant identify due to unrecognizable characters)
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Sorry if i'm bothering U, but can U please recognize this lang' in the attached photo, In you'r settings of ur 990?
Thanks very much!
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shabydog said:
Sorry if i'm bothering U, but can U please recognize this lang' in the attached photo, In you'r settings of ur 990?
Thanks very much!
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Sorry bro. No Hebrew. I would have recognized it. Double checked right now.
Thanks very much.
Do U know if it possible to add an unavailable right to left language for a model that specifically produced to the U.S market?
One more thing is: Read that theIr are lang's which are builded in , But the provider is just BLOCKING part of them.
So in order to fix that - I shell install the zip of the MoreLocal2. (not the app).
Saw a guid on a Galaxy Note which worked on it.
Anyone know's if it supposed to work for any Android?
Thanks again.
So, I got a LS990 in Canada which won't find no LTE networks in Canada. Bell in Canada operates on 2600 and 1700 while LS990's standard is 850/1900/2500. So, I basically hate this device and didn't want to believe the fact that LTE bands had hardware dependency though these are world phones. It sucks but I would still appreciate if someone could prove me wrong.
Thanks!
Here's how to unlock additional bands. I haven't tried it as I'm not needing to unlock more bands, but it's something to read about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55321005
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Will this work with stock kernel
Users from bangladesh of sprint lg g3 suffering from no internet connection after sim unlocking can try this. Root your device and install twrp and then install any gsm rom like cloudy g3 or prime gsm..you will have your sprint g3 2g/3g unlocked..thanx
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LTE bands according to country?

Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile)
the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
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Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. With the information Chazz posted, you should be able to identify which bands you need for the carrier you are going to use it on. If you are unsure, then post with carrier you are planing on using it on and one of us will specifically tell you which bands are needed and which model would be suit your needs on the available information. Some models so access more than what they are mentioned to support and others have very inaccurate information, like the H933 for the Canadian market.
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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ah, good idea.
jcsww said:
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
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Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case almost all the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
LG V30 V300K
Carrier: KT – South Korea
GSM: 850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS (HSPA: 2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
LTE: 2100 (B1), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8)
TD-LTE: 2600 (B38), 2300 (B40)
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See, with that one, you would have only LTE band 7 for Argentina or Chile carriers. And if you are using WOM, which only has LTE band 4, then you would be out of luck. Unless that model has more bands than listed in official specs, which is possible.
ChazzMatt said:
ah, good idea.
Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
See, with that one, you would not have any Argentina or Chile LTE bands.
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Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
jcsww said:
Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
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Yeah. And after I posted I realized he would still have LTE band 7 -- but would only be out of luck if he used the carrier that only has LTE band 7. So, I edited my post slightly.
I am curious which LG V30 model is being sold. Because as far as I can tell, the phone has not yet launched in South America -- so any LG V30 models are being imported from another country by re-sellers. On the Chile LG website, the LG G6 is still the top phone and the V30 is not mentioned at all.
ChazzMatt said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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I believe that phones sold in Chile are ready for Chilean networks... I hope the seller is wrong.
I'm buying it from a small business that sells computers and phones. I suppose it is legal, because it has a shop in downtown and pays all taxes. The thing is that LG never brings the latest phones officially into my country (Argentina). I'm telling you that the latest and newest LG phone sold here by official LG stores is the G5 SE.
I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
jcsww said:
I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
Trompipan said:
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
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I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
jcsww said:
I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
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Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
Trompipan said:
Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
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I am not 100% sure as I do not own a V30 as of yet. In some Nexus devices, you can actually set a region, which have also been known to cause issues. I remember the Nexus 5 forum being full of people who selected USA when overseas and ended up losing their service. Changing the choice did not make a difference after that first selection. If I happen to pick up a V30 before yours arrives, I will definitely check and see. Otherwise, hopefully someone else will chime in and know.
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
ranahan said:
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
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What model V30+ do you have? "V30+" is not the answer. I have a US998 V30+ with band 4. Almost every V30+ has LTE band 4...
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
You have one of the Korean carrier variants? Ding ding ding.
You didn't research before you bought. Every LG V30+ models except for the Korean carrier variants has LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4. [/QUOTE]
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
ranahan said:
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
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Hmmmm... I thought all that H930DS had LTE band 4. I thought it was the Korean carrier variants didn't have band 4...
See here:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AdW7Z/lg-h930ds-v30-dual-sim-td-lte-lg-joan
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The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
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How Can i convert it, Chazz?

LG V30+ Unlocked (H930DS) Doesn't work with T-Mobile USA

Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
NerdPad said:
Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
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Hello, did you try the hidden menu (whatever is the code) to check bands ?
Hi, any update on this topic? I have the same phone (H930DS) and will move to the US in the next months.
If not T-Mobile, will I be able to use LTE from any of the other big providers?
The code to access the hidden menus for the 930DS is: *#546368#*930# Isn't there an EU version of the 930DS as well?
For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
HeartFist said:
For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
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This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
NerdPad said:
So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
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You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
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It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
Septfox said:
You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
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I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
jcsww said:
This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
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Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
sundoggy said:
Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
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If the bands are there and enabled, then yes. The only thing that limits which bands can be used is the software and firmware in the device. The issues with T-Mobile might be related to WCDMA/UMTS being locked out in that model. VoLTE though should be possible on bands 2, 4, and 12 though and T-Mobile's WiFi Calling should also work. Canada is similar but also depends on the carrier. Freedom would have the WCDMA/UMTS issues that T-Mobile users are probably having issues with. Rogers/Fido/Chatr however would more than likely be the best fit. Bell/Virgin and Telus/Koodo should be fine as well, but the Rogers network still has GSM service.
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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You get 3G, but no 4G/LTE?
Are you in an urban or rural area?
Did you access the hidden menu and clicked on one of T-Mobile's bands (B4 or B12) for testing purposes?
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
jcsww said:
What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
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by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
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by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
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It works well. I haven't really had any time to compare it to the H933 because it is back in the box ready to be exchanged. In and around Scarborough-Guildwood, signal strength is in and around 91db.
From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
ccval said:
But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
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APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
jcsww said:
APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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Understandable. I haven't been able to find any locally in Canada or in western Virginia. Then again, western Virginia is fairly rural and I don't want to purchase one online. The screens are too much of an issue on these devices to risk buying one from Ebay, Swappa, Kijiji, and other online sites.
I know Amazon.com has them but I am up in Canada right now and don't want to pay import fees and taxes to bring it to Canada. Amazon may also have a great return policy but I would hate to have to send it back because of screen banding and color uniformity issues. In Toronto, band 2 and 4 are very common and would be easily enough to test with my T-Mobile USA SIM while roaming. Any of the stores I have been in at Pacific Mall don't carry them.

Have some questions!

Thinking about buying this phone. Can you guys tell me the common issues with this phone? The one I'm most concerned with is the headphone jack, does it produce hiss sound at low volume? I ask this since I came across a lot of phones with that issue. Thanks in advance
linkzex said:
Thinking about buying this phone. Can you guys tell me the common issues with this phone? The one I'm most concerned with is the headphone jack, does it produce hiss sound at low volume? I ask this since I came across a lot of phones with that issue. Thanks in advance
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I personally don't experience hissing on this phone. As far as issues, it involves the OTA from Vendor Roms which bricked some devices. You can check your ROM version and cross reference it with the ones on the Mi website to make sure. Aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with the phone.
Hi, I'm also considering to buy Note 5 and I just wanted to say that I don't have that problem with Note 4, it doesn't mean much since I don't use N5 but I think there is very very little chance for hissing issue in any device produced in 2017.
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
LabLab...28 said:
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
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Did you manage to get the info? Please share if you did.
Is the india model the international variant?
Thanks
antares* said:
Did you manage to get the info? Please share if you did.
Is the india model the international variant?
Thanks
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No one is concern bro. ;(
Hello, I have Redmi 5 in Pakistan. It is a international variant. Screenshots are attached. Hope they help. Thanks.
LabLab...28 said:
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
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Hi, when I purchased seller offer also a global variant for 40 usd more.
Many people confuse about global device version and global firmware that it´s not the same.
You just have to pay special attention to the bands that is enabled, the global version has more bands enabled, by i.e my version that is a non global doesn´t have LTE bands 2 (1900) nor 4 (1700/2100) it mean that in my country it can´t work on 4G (of course I bought it so it is cause I didn´t need). This is the main difference.
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Hi, when I purchased seller offer also a global variant for 40 usd more.
Many people confuse about global device version and global firmware that it´s not the same.
You just have to pay special attention to the bands that is enabled, the global version has more bands enabled, by i.e my version that is a non global doesn´t have LTE bands 2 (1900) nor 4 (1700/2100) it mean that in my country it can´t work on 4G (of course I bought it so it is cause I didn´t need). This is the main difference.
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I really don't understand because my device is working with the B4 (1700) band but it is not a real Global version. :silly:
Abnoiesu said:
I really don't understand because my device is working with the B4 (1700) band but it is not a real Global version. :silly:
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Why do you say that has B4? Where you saw it?
Look at this info, just 4G apparted, this is a non-global version from a chinese seller you can find these specs;
4G FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600
TD LTE B38:2600 /B39:1900/ B40:2300 /B41:2500 MHz
TD or TDD is the LTE FOR China, look up FDD LTE bands.
And this is a Global version, seller usually put in a red highlighted the bands added
4G: FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600 /B4:1700 /B20:800;
TD LTE B38:2600 / B40:2300
Differences here are bands 4 for Latin America and guess some regions of Asia and maybe others and band 20 for Spain.
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Why do you say that has B4? Where you saw it?
Look at this info, just 4G apparted, this is a non-global version from a chinese seller you can find these specs;
4G FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600
TD LTE B38:2600 /B39:1900/ B40:2300 /B41:2500 MHz
TD or TDD is the LTE FOR China, look up FDD LTE bands.
And this is a Global version, seller usually put in a red highlighted the bands added
4G: FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600 /B4:1700 /B20:800;
TD LTE B38:2600 / B40:2300
Differences here are bands 4 for Latin America and guess some regions of Asia and maybe others and band 20 for Spain.
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I mentioned that because my 4g shouldn't work but it appears in the notification bar.
I bought the "Official Global ROM" (I saw it is not the Global Version)
FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900MHz
TDD LTE B34:2100/B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2500MHz
This confuses me :silly:
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I mentioned that because my 4g shouldn't work but it appears in the notification bar.
I bought the "Official Global ROM" (I saw it is not the Global Version)
FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900MHz
TDD LTE B34:2100/B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2500MHz
This confuses me :silly:
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No, if your device hasn´t these two added bands definitely it´s not a global version (global rom concept mean nothing for this) is a hardware limitation although can work within 4G depending on your company carrier in some of the 5 frequencies enabled.
I have a Chinese RN5, it has loads of bands dudes. The chance of it not working on your network are slim.
As for the headphones dilemma, they do not hiss or produce low volume. Altho if you pair them with Xiaomi Pro HD which have a high impedance then you will notice a lack in volume. That can be easily fixed with Dolby Atmos the Magisk Module.

LTE Advanced in Europe??

I have been testing and also read on official telegram group that carrier aggregation (4G+ or LTE-A) is not enabled in Europe.
Will there be any fix for it on future updates? Phone is listed as CAT16 but its working as a CAT4.
Any idea? Was Poco community manager on forum? Would be nice to know if Pocophone will be CAT16 in Europe or just CAT4.
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Any idea? Was Poco community manager on forum? Would be nice to know if Pocophone will be CAT16 in Europe or just CAT4.
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yep, it's quite slow and I hope they'll fix it with an update cause compared to my Mi A1 I'm not getting full-speed LTE experience, only slow 4G mode. band 3 actually, no band20:
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yep, it's quite slow and I hope they'll fix it with an update cause compared to my Mi A1 I'm not getting full-speed LTE experience, only slow 4G mode. how did you check and find out it's cat4 only?
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With *#*#4636#*#* you can see connected cells, or some apps for cell monitoring, it doesn't use never more than one band (EARFCN is the frequency of band used). Could maybe be a CAT5, that it's like CAT4 but supporting MIMO 4x4, but the most standard is CAT4. CAT6+ are all LTE-A with carrier aggregation, what Poco doesn't support in Europe bands. (some info in http://main.rfassurance.com/?q=LTEUeCategory )
Also I work on mobile network engineering, so I have some info from network, but it can be easyly checked from phone, no network aggregation = no 4g+ or LTE-A
my problem was solved by a call with three austria service line.
in fact they didn't get band 20 frequency by auction, only 1800 and 900 for volte calls only.
https://www.rtr.at/de/tk/FRQshare
so, I'd have to change my provider (telekom or t-mobile or a sub) to get band 20.
meltbanana said:
my problem was solved by a call with three austria service line.
in fact they didn't get band 20 frequency by auction, only 1800 and 900 for volte calls only.
https://www.rtr.at/de/tk/FRQshare
so, I'd have to change my provider (telekom or t-mobile or a sub) to get band 20.
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It's not related to the lack of carrier aggregation for Pocophone in Europe. My provider uses bands, 3, 7 and 20, in a cell with the three bands and that allows carrier aggregation between all them in any order, doesn't work at all while works with another phones.
Btw, installed new MIUI10 open beta, and problem is still there.
@ PocoCommunityManager are you there? Any info?
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It's not related to the lack of carrier aggregation for Pocophone in Europe. My provider uses bands, 3, 7 and 20, in a cell with the three bands and that allows carrier aggregation between all them in any order, doesn't work at all while works with another phones.
Btw, installed new MIUI10 open beta, and problem is still there.
@ PocoCommunityManager are you there? Any info?
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There is not 4G+ for Poco in Europe like on most xiaomi phone, stop to ask.
I don't think asking is a problem, Pocophone lists the phone as 4g+ in Europe (example: https://www.poco.net/es/specs/ or https://www.mi.com/es/pocophone-f1/specs/ ), so we ask for it.
SD845 allows it, probably it's a fw thing, not hw.
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I don't think asking is a problem, Pocophone lists the phone as 4g+ in Europe (example: https://www.poco.net/es/specs/ or https://www.mi.com/es/pocophone-f1/specs/ ), so we ask for it.
SD845 allows it, probably it's a fw thing, not hw.
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I mean, there is 4g+ but only in special conditions, very rare: it's as if it were not there.
Any chance someone from Poco team could answer this? Other phones using perfectly 4g+ and Pocophone fake CAT16 doesn't at all?
My internet is slower on pocophone than in my last phone, Xiaomi mi a2. And both have band 20, then i thing that is a rom problem.
I think more band combinations are available with MiUi 10 because after the update it's showing me 4G+ on a network.
I'm also having the same problem in Europe. It just wouldn't connect to 4G+, not like on other phones. My operator supports 3+20 and 3+7+20 band carrier aggregation. LTE Discovery app shows that the phone is always connected to band 3 only.
Up !
I wrote about this problem in the main pocophone forum and to be honest there is no real official reply. Some people wrote that CA is disabled due to pocophone not buying proper licences from Qualcomm.
It's difficult to say how accurate this explanation is. One thing is definite, they advertise pocophone as LTE cat.16 capable and at the same time they disable this feature completely and limit capabilities to LTE cat.4 (not even cat.6 ....). This is not what you call honest marketing. More like lying about you product capabilities. I think CA happens but only in India or in some extremely rare cases in some other countries, especially if certain phone companies offer CA on frequencies similar to indian frequencies.
No developer can activate this option? With a custom ROM or something? The sd845 supports this though!
Any update?
they are not interested as usual. flagships in Xiaomi's term: "yeah it's fast but that's all. buy it then don't ask CAUSE IT'S FAST OKAY?"
Why is this thread inactive? I live in Greece where carriers use 3 7 and 20 for 4g although poco is always connected on 3 as stated. Has anyone tried to enable 3CA using QPST?
I usually get connected to band 3 or 20.
I'm in Spain. To make sure I'm using band 20 I switch from 4g to 3g and back to 4g Enmidiately. Screenshots attached.

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