Can the IR blaster in face unlock be used as an IR remote? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Since the kernel sources are available I am guessing it might be possible eventually? Someone mentioned in a post that remote IR blasters just work at higher frequencies, so if the hw on Poco supports then.. yes??

Can I use the fingerprint sensor of phone to unlock my home lock?

Daruwalla said:
Can I use the fingerprint sensor of phone to unlock my home lock?
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Damn! ???

Daruwalla said:
Can I use the fingerprint sensor of phone to unlock my home lock?
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less do itt! xD

its front notch has an IR camera, IR emitter, normal camera, earpiece and proximity sensor. the IR emitter could (very likely in theory) be used like an IR blaster. Has anyone tried installing Mi Remote on their Poco F1?
the review page (6) on gsmarena says it has an "IR blaster" but that's probably a typo : (cant post links because this is my first post on XDA altough i've been lurking here for a few years without reg)
ot: please tell me if call forwarding works for anyone natively on the google dialer app when you have lineageOS

FID00 said:
its front notch has an IR camera, IR emitter, normal camera, earpiece and proximity sensor. the IR emitter could (very likely in theory) be used like an IR blaster. Has anyone tried installing Mi Remote on their Poco F1?
the review page (6) on gsmarena says it has an "IR blaster" but that's probably a typo : (cant post links because this is my first post on XDA altough i've been lurking here for a few years without reg)
ot: please tell me if call forwarding works for anyone natively on the google dialer app when you have lineageOS
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I did try installing the latest Mi Remote from playstore having the same doubt/hope.
Unfortunately, it says that the installed device does not support MI remote due to lack of IR blaster. Alternatively, it says you can use the remote via a common Wi-fi network. So I guess it doesn't work.

lishoym said:
I did try installing the latest Mi Remote from playstore having the same doubt/hope.
Unfortunately, it says that the installed device does not support MI remote due to lack of IR blaster. Alternatively, it says you can use the remote via a common Wi-fi network. So I guess it doesn't work.
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There must be a way to force it to use the IR blaster, just as you could reroute it to the screen, it just needs something to output 1s and 0s, on and off

Yes you can !!
Daruwalla said:
Can I use the fingerprint sensor of phone to unlock my home lock?
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Either you need a Node MCU or an arduino with a Bluetooth module. So it can act as a gateway between your phone and locking system, thereby you can easily communicate with your HOME LOCK (only for digital locks :silly: )
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when i installed Mi remote from playstore i got an error message saying "your phone can't control IR Devices ,You can control Your Mi Tv /Mi box using WiFi !!"

Have a look at this thread

vvnithin said:
Either you need a Node MCU or an arduino with a Bluetooth module. So it can act as a gateway between your phone and locking system, thereby you can easily communicate with your HOME LOCK (only for digital locks :silly: )
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when i installed Mi remote from playstore i got an error message saying "your phone can't control IR Devices ,You can control Your Mi Tv /Mi box using WiFi !!"
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You can use a solenoid or actuator for an extra locking bolt , controlled by a cheap WIFI on/off switch

It has ir camera nit the emitter. Every living thing in this world emmits IR waves which it captures. Hope everyone understands.

SamyakJ said:
It has ir camera nit the emitter. Every living thing in this world emits IR waves which it captures. Hope everyone understands.
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I get it, but no. Look up a couple Pocophone reviews on Youtube, some of them spend some time on the IR unlock. If they have video of it working in the dark you'll see a light red flash across the person's face. There is also an IR emitter in the phone. Of course, it would be awkward to point things with the way it's placed but it beats having to buy and bring with you everywhere a dongle with emitter.

PocoSteve said:
I get it, but no. Look up a couple Pocophone reviews on Youtube, some of them spend some time on the IR unlock. If they have video of it working in the dark you'll see a light red flash across the person's face. There is also an IR emitter in the phone. Of course, it would be awkward to point things with the way it's placed but it beats having to buy and bring with you everywhere a dongle with emitter.
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That's IR wave l. Beacuase we dont emmit is uniformly. Some place have high intensity and some have low intensity

Actually it's not possible since, the frequencies are not the same, the ir receiver in your tv should not be able to see those that are emitted by your phone. There's a lot of infrared wavebands and the ir emitter doesn't emit on the right one, and you can't change it unless you change the emitter.

SamyakJ said:
That's IR wave l. Beacuase we dont emmit is uniformly. Some place have high intensity and some have low intensity
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I mean you see the line shine from the phone over the person's face like a scan.
But here is a screenshot of the keynote :
(I think I attached it correctly, not sure)
EDIT: and you see "infrared lighting" well that's the emitter.

Blendman974 said:
Actually it's not possible since, the frequencies are not the same, the ir receiver in your tv should not be able to see those that are emitted by your phone. There's a lot of infrared wavebands and the ir emitter doesn't emit on the right one, and you can't change it unless you change the emitter.
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Hum... Where did you get this info ?
Btw : té koifé 974 ?! J'aurais jamais cru voir un gars la Possession sur XDA devs...

PocoSteve said:
Hum... Where did you get this info ?
Btw : té koifé 974 ?! J'aurais jamais cru voir un gars la Possession sur XDA devs...
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Actually I'm wrong since the light emited by the blaster is visible to IR detectors (just tested with my Honor 7 ir blaster/receiver) ... So it may be possible, imagining that we could control with enough precision the IR led. May be a good idea to ask to a kernel maker if it could be possible.
OffTopic : Mdr pas courant d'avoir des reunionnais sur xda c vrai xD

Interesting idea
I'd make an app if I knew how to...
nC3rtaintiy said:
Since the kernel sources are available I am guessing it might be possible eventually? Someone mentioned in a post that remote IR blasters just work at higher frequencies, so if the hw on Poco supports then.. yes??
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Atleast the people are taking the idea seriously now, with enough activity maybe it will catch someones devs eyes and he would push the matter.
Forgot this whole issue, i'l be on watch and post bavk here if I find anything.

I am very skeptical that this is possible. I don't think that the main problem would be a possible slight wavelength mismatch but the needed led modulation frequency. You see, the IR code is not simply encoded by a different pattern of long and short IR pulses but that pattern is superimposed on a high carrier frequency. When the led is 'ON' it's really pulsing on and off usually 38,000 times a second. This is something that's easy to do in hardware but difficult to do in software, specially if you are not running a real-time-OS (don't think that this linux kernel is).
It would be much easier to build a separate wifi->IR gateway.

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ir port????

first phone i brought with no ir port...is there a way to add one? or is it a hardware thing..or software?
mcfaddwa22 said:
first phone i brought with no ir port...is there a way to add one? or is it a hardware thing..or software?
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IR Port is a bit old fashioned. It has been replaced by Bluetooth. But I agree that it was useful allowing the use of remote control programs.
Cheers

Hardware additions.

I've added a few things to my head unit but i would like to add more sensors.
First was the external wifi antenna.
Then the extra ground from the display panel ground to the chasis.
And now im wondering how i can add basic arduino sensors.
Such things as:
Accelerometer
Gyroscope
Compas
Light intensity
Preasure
Temperature
Is it as simple as getting the sensor and adding it to the i2c bus or is there a better way?
Another thing is that I'd like to add a battery backup and connect it so that the os recognises it and gives me voltage and temperature. How could i do that ?
And lastly I'd like to change the right tune knob to a rotary knob instead of the spring loaded one. I just dont know if i could get a rotary one to replace it or if i would have to use a rotary encoder and an arduino to translate that into momentary on/off's.
Thanks
Stephen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...bling-external-bus-functionality-i2c-t3259085
Mekanix1 said:
I've added a few things to my head unit but i would like to add more sensors.
And now im wondering how i can add basic arduino sensors.
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Instead of arduino, maybe you can send UDP data to HU from another android device that have more sensors (i.e.: android smartphone): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubccapstone.sensorUDP&hl=it
pounce said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...bling-external-bus-functionality-i2c-t3259085
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Cool thanks.
Im subscibed to that thread.
Does the android os sensor suite also include libraries for external sensors and would it recognise a well known sensor if i simply connected it using any of the busses?
As in: could i add a light sensor and have the os recognise that its a light sensor and to use that for diming the screen like a typical smart phone or what is the process to make that happen?
popeye70 said:
Instead of arduino, maybe you can send UDP data to HU from another android device that have more sensors (i.e.: android smartphone): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubccapstone.sensorUDP&hl=it
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Id like to build the sensors in to the unit once i figure out a way to integrate but ill have a look at that
Mekanix1 said:
Cool thanks.
Im subscibed to that thread.
Does the android os sensor suite also include libraries for external sensors and would it recognise a well known sensor if i simply connected it using any of the busses?
As in: could i add a light sensor and have the os recognise that its a light sensor and to use that for diming the screen like a typical smart phone or what is the process to make that happen?
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I guess you read the other thread.
How would the OS auto magically recognize your sensor and know what to do with it?
Do you really have a problem with dimming or are you looking at tinkering with this for fun?
I like Mekanix1's idea...
I would really like to see inclinometer and G meter working in Torque app.
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Then the extra ground from the display panel ground to the chasis.
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What is this good for? Is it because of noise in the speakers? Because I have a noise and maybe this is another try for me to get rid of
pounce said:
I guess you read the other thread.
How would the OS auto magically recognize your sensor and know what to do with it?
Do you really have a problem with dimming or are you looking at tinkering with this for fun?
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Just for fun. Id like to add the same sensors that would be in every smartphone. I thought that the framework would be there and all i would have to do is find a way to make it happen.
popeye70 said:
I like Mekanix1's idea...
I would really like to see inclinometer and G meter working in Torque app.
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Yeah that was another reason i was looking to do this.
Airwin13 said:
What is this good for? Is it because of noise in the speakers? Because I have a noise and maybe this is another try for me to get rid of
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On mine there was terrible emi interference when using the front mic and making calls over bluetooth.
Turns out it was because the ground plain of the display was inducing emi into the mic and feeding it through to the bt module.
I added a ground wire from the display board's ground to the chassis ground and it reduced the noise considrerably.
The next thing i did was disconnect the mic ground and just connect that directly to the chassis ground instead of on the display board and that fixed the problem.
For example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap2JTcKpP6Q
Mekanix1 said:
Id like to build the sensors in to the unit
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External usb sensors maybe can be easier solution than build them? http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/products/usb-position-sensors/yocto-3d
However, i think the bigger problem is not hardware, but software: the Android OS of Huifei HU is not a "full and standard Android 4.4" so it is missing some features, like sensor reading capabilities...
popeye70 said:
External usb sensors maybe can be easier solution than build them? http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/products/usb-position-sensors/yocto-3d
However, i think the bigger problem is not hardware, but software: the Android OS of Huifei HU is not a "full and standard Android 4.4" so it is missing some features, like sensor reading capabilities...
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I used an android sensor scanner on my unit and it said there was support for a variety of sensors but no input was detected.
I wonder how much one of those would cost to get and if android would recognize it.
I mean the unit does recognize different usb things I've connected.
It recognized a usb keyboard and mouse.
Just tried with an arduino connected via usb.
I uploaded a simple serial command called ping pong.
Basically when the arduino senses a connection to something on the serial it sends the text ping, and using a basic serial terminal app I got the text. Then responded with pong and it responded back. So, There is one way of having communication with an external device to do something useful.
The next thing I tried was upload a sensor suite app. If read a pressure sensor, humidity and temperature along with a real time clock.
Once connected it fed all that information to the serial program. I could see how I could add temperature and vibration sensors to it so that I could read something useful happening in the vehicle. Then I could just add sensors to the drive-train and have a way of monitoring. lots of interesting things to mess with.
Now its just a matter of using processing to create some sort of GIU. Arduino i can play with but processing is stil la mystery to me
I have been looking into this as well, but more as a future plan, as I don't have my HU yet.
Would be interested in getting direct sensor I2C support, shall start doing some digging to see how it's dune in regular phones
Did anyone come right with integrating external sensors to these HU units. Would love to use Torques inclinometer functions with an external accelerometer

IR Jack (Jakcom IR)

Hello,
I've bought a IR Jack from AliExpress and I've downloaded ZaZaRemote to control it, but I'm not able to make it works. I think that the problem is that it can't find the correct mount point
Any of you has ever bought a IR Jack???
How did you make it work???
Thanks for help
Edit: I've tried with a Sony Z5 Premium and it's working, so probably the problem is that the application can't find the correct mount point
That device appears to be an iPhone accessory and requires a special app to control only on iOS. The app you have appears to be just a regular IR remote app for phones that have a built in IR emitter like many Samsung or LG phones.
StykerB said:
That device appears to be an iPhone accessory and requires a special app to control only on iOS. The app you have appears to be just a regular IR remote app for phones that have a built in IR emitter like many Samsung or LG phones.
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Thanks for answer, but in on of the reviews review I've read about someone with a Sony that was able to use it. Anyway the application is supposed to work with every remote emitter, not only built in, I've seen videos in which they use it with a Jack IR
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LG l9 II - IR Blaster not working with remote control apps

Hello. I have a problem... When I press any button on the remote control, IR blaster does not flash. When I run an application that comes with the system, IR blaster normally blinks, I checked so I pointed the other phone in IR blaster, and I started the camera. The camera can see IR, and no eye. I tried a variety of applications, and is always the same problem. What could be my problem?
Nikola98Jakovljevic said:
Hello. I have a problem... When I press any button on the remote control, IR blaster does not flash. When I run an application that comes with the system, IR blaster normally blinks, I checked so I pointed the other phone in IR blaster, and I started the camera. The camera can see IR, and no eye. I tried a variety of applications, and is always the same problem. What could be my problem?
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The only application that can actually work with the IR blaster of your device is the built-in one. LG made this so no other application can be used for the IR blaster....( at least as far as i know )
Nikola98Jakovljevic said:
Hello. I have a problem... When I press any button on the remote control, IR blaster does not flash. When I run an application that comes with the system, IR blaster normally blinks, I checked so I pointed the other phone in IR blaster, and I started the camera. The camera can see IR, and no eye. I tried a variety of applications, and is always the same problem. What could be my problem?
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It doesn't work because the creator of this rom change IR file(because 99% of roms for this phone are based on Vacain's kernel and device tree, so Varcain had customize the IR file) and it is a system app you can't use an other one, only the official with specific drivers can work.

Custom programmed Smart Controller

Got my Mate 10 Pro two days ago and been trying to programm IR Blaster for my setup box but when i "code" it with my remote it does not work (it works just fine with preset settings for my TV). No ir light at all (tested with another phones camera).
Any ideas how to programm it ? Should i maybe use another app ?
Thanks
Yeah same issue with my Sony TV and aircon works fine but my surround sound won't register, even when learning via the remote. Worked fine on my old LG phone IR. I'm also looking for a new app, bit of a shame as I prefer integrated app instead of 3rd party.
I'm having the same problem. Preset controls work fine but custom don't. The bad thing is that Anymote I've been using on my old Note 3 and also worked on P10 plus is not working on Mate 10 pro. Did anyone find some app or workaround to make the custom ir learning function to work? As eg. long press that I need to turn on my Panasonic TV is not working in most applications and it also doesn't work in the Pre-installed SmartController
Same with my mate 10 pro. Very limited remote control selection for built-in app. Custom remote not working even though i tried different techniques in programming keys. My xiaomi mi5 had better remote control features than this and it sucks coz the remote function is one of the main reason why I picked this phone. Now I feel like i just bought an iphone.
Has anyone been able to make a working custom remote?I haven't been able to copy any of my remotes from tvs,STB's to AV tools. If you got it to work can you share which phone,ROM version,app you are using?thanks
Anymote
For anymote to work with Huawei mate 10 pro need to change in settings advanced to alternative Ir code
Same for me Firmware B125 )
does it work ?
Bitsky6 said:
For anymote to work with Huawei mate 10 pro need to change in settings advanced to alternative Ir code
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You got it to work with AnyMote ? free version ?
I got this msg
Error
Unfortunately your phone/tablet does not support IR commands learning.
This is a hardware limitation that cannnot be resolved through software
Same here on the Mate 10 Pro... any ideias ?
do you guys test galaxy universal remote app? I am using this in mate 9 and working OK, make one test for see, I understand the models phone are diferents.
As stated, enabling alternative IR code makes Anymote work, but forget about using learning function with it: Huawei just didn't release the needed API to third part devs.
As for the native app's learning function, I was able to succesfully program custom remotes for 2 devices, and it works fine. But in another case, while I was able to program the signal from the device's remote, that device just doesn't seem to want to receive signals from the phone, it just ignores them. It did behave the same with my old Mate 9, thus I assume that there are devices around which just don't like it, or Huawei's phones don't support some particular IR codes (but why then does the app apparently accept them? go figure).
Same for me
Its still not learning, right?
I have the samme issue.
Does anyone know if Anymote is working fully on the Honor View 10?
I had no problems getting my Samsung TV and Xfinity Box to pair and work perfect. I just have problems with the Roku remote. Has anyone had any luck with Roku?
I found a method that seems to work fairly reliably on my mate 10 pro: hold the phone and remote about 5cm apart, and extremely steadily (I hold the phone in my left hand normally, hold the remote upside down in my right hand, and support my right hand on the top right corner of the phone), then I hold the button down with my right thumb while keeping everything as steady as possible until it registers (should be a second or two unless you are not pointing the remote at the correct sensor). Only had to redo one or two buttons after I started programming it this way.
i used this app very good but you need Chinese app gallery it has the new remote update 4.0.9
https://wap3.hispace.hicloud.com/appInfo/share?pkgName=com.tiqiaa.icontrol
I use mi remote app in the google play store and it works very well

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