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For the past few days I have been racking my brain and searching multiple forums for the answer(s) and I finally turn to XDA to hopefully help answer.
The thought: I would love to be able to take my DroidX connect it via HDMI to a 7" monitor in my car to have a nice view of the navigation, access to my music and all of the other items that the phone has to offer (which include data connection and accurate GPS). Sure I can buy an android based headunit or build a carPC but why when I have what all of that has to offer in my pocket? Then I got to thinking, to take it a step further, why not use a 7" touchscreen monitor so that I am not just passing video and sound via the HDMI but that the monitor registers touches to the phone.
WebTop is a great middle of the road solution as it would output the HDMI and allow the user to utilize the phone as the mouse touchpad on the screen. Sadly it is only offered for a select few phones. So on to my questions.
1. Did I some how miss a WebTop project being worked on that would do what I am talking about?
2. Am I wrong in thinking that drivers need to be worked out depending on the phone AND which 7" TS was used?
3. Most, if not all, android phones have video out capabilities, so outputting to the screen would be workable, but is there a better way to get the input hurdle worked out.. not a question just an open suggestion box.
Looks like a few more days or looking would have helped. Customgadz has what I need.
so what did you find? I searched for Customgadz, with no results. did you use hdmi mirroring with Android, or does this work with webtop?
Looks like the australian website has a solution to control an android device with a 4 wire external touchscreen using a module.
search for "customgadz remote touch"
Only pre-order now and the website states they start delivering end of januari
Hey,
I was thinking about an Android box thingy and there are many cheap options.
I would like to play around with some emulators (PPSSPP included) with a USB controller I have and watch some anime ^^ I'd also not like to spend in excess of ~$35 (max $45)
Any good cheap boxes that can do that? Preferably that support Lolipop since I love its UI.
I've seen ones with Amlogic S802,812 and 912 CPUs and RK3188 and 3368 CPUs.
Which one is decent? eBay links would be appreciated ^^ Thanks! (OpenGL ES3 support would also be nice.)
RK3188 drives my LighInTheBox mk809iv. It's got 2GB RAM, 8GB EMMC, a full sized USB 2 port, hdmi, microSDXC port, runs KitKat 4.4, comes with Kodi pre-installed. I rooted it with Kingoroot.com, so that I could run a vnc server on it. I remote control it with my phone which running the free Valence app, or sometimes I remote it with Screen Sharing on my Mac. It plays nicely, and I get decent enough Wifi speeds. It's run everything I have thrown at it. A quick search for mk809iv will bring up a whole lot of these devices, even some with 16gb EMMC. Some will arrive pre-rooted, others will not. Look for Realtek Wifi for best compatibility if you intend to flash it (which requires a PC). It is fun to play with, but looking back on the experience, I'd rather have had a small Android phone with MHL/hdmi-output, as it would have been much easier to set up if there was a screen on the device itself. Just a thought. Used Galaxy s3 handsets are getting cheap enough now, with the same functionality. Cheers!
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RK3188 drives my LighInTheBox mk809iv. It's got 2GB RAM, 8GB EMMC, a full sized USB 2 port, hdmi, microSDXC port, runs KitKat 4.4, comes with Kodi pre-installed. I rooted it with Kingoroot.com, so that I could run a vnc server on it. I remote control it with my phone which running the free Valence app, or sometimes I remote it with Screen Sharing on my Mac. It plays nicely, and I get decent enough Wifi speeds. It's run everything I have thrown at it. A quick search for mk809iv will bring up a whole lot of these devices, even some with 16gb EMMC. Some will arrive pre-rooted, others will not. Look for Realtek Wifi for best compatibility if you intend to flash it (which requires a PC). It is fun to play with, but looking back on the experience, I'd rather have had a small Android phone with MHL/hdmi-output, as it would have been much easier to set up if there was a screen on the device itself. Just a thought. Used Galaxy s3 handsets are getting cheap enough now, with the same functionality. Cheers!
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Thanks anyway! ^^ I got a $34 RK3368 with 2GB RAM/16GB Flash off eBay since they had sale! ^^ My Nexus 7 sadly doesn't support MHL/HDMI
KawaiiAurora said:
Thanks anyway! ^^ I got a $34 RK3368 with 2GB RAM/16GB Flash off eBay since they had sale! ^^ My Nexus 7 sadly doesn't support MHL/HDMI
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Congratats! They look awesome! I wish everything supported MHL or just HDMI already.
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Congratats! They look awesome! I wish everything supported MHL or just HDMI already.
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Yep! Any suggestions regarding TV apps, websites with TV shows, forums for TV boxes and input devices? I don't really think the bundled remote would be something I'd wanna use. I've seen wireless small keyboards with trackpads, do you know anything about them?
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/201366333584
KawaiiAurora said:
Yep! Any suggestions regarding TV apps, websites with TV shows, forums for TV boxes and input devices? I don't really think the bundled remote would be something I'd wanna use. I've seen wireless small keyboards with trackpads, do you know anything about them?
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/201366333584
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The forum I use for my Android devices is usually XDA, right here.
I used a USB keyboard and a mouse to set mine up.
For the record, I rooted my MK809 IV, which has an rk3188 SOC running KitKat 4.4, with Kingo Root, to allow me to run a VNC server, because I use a free Android app called Valence on my phone as a wifi trackpad/mouse and use my phone's keyboard to type on the Android TV. Root allows me to use the free RemoDroid app to control my Android TV from my phone or tablets from anywhere in my house.
Kodi comes on mine, and it's a free app in the Play Store anyway. I tried to set it up last April, but it kept crashing. If you are into that sort of thing, it is a very capable media server for sure.
For playing local files, I think MX Player is the champion app.
I ultimately bought a Logitech k700 keyboard with built-in trackpad to use with mine - I purchased it refurbished on a Newegg special for fifteen dollars! I take that keyboard everywhere with me. I love it. I prefer to use an actual mouse, but since I bought the k700, I have not missed mice enough to actually plug one in. I like it because it is nearly full-sized, but still compact, and it comes already set up to use a single USB wireless dongle. Range has been great, and after almost a year I am still on the first set of batteries.
Just today I was looking into purchasing the remote that came with your TV box, so please, let me know if you like it.
I bought a Hubman USB 2.0 hub in case I need more ports. It seemed like a good idea to have it, but I have not actually plugged it into the Android stick yet. I'm sure it will support a mouse, keyboard & usb thumb-drive just fine.
I don't want to go too far off-topic, so if it's okay with you, I'll pm you a list of apps I use for video. Nothing seems to slow down my aging rk3188 quad. Your rk3368 octa-core is going to be fantastic! Would you please post a link to the auction? Even if the auction is closed, I'd love to take a look at the device. The price you paid is unbelieveable!
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glenesis said:
The forum I use for my Android devices is usually XDA, right here.
I used a USB keyboard and a mouse to set mine up.
For the record, I rooted my MK809 IV, which has an rk3188 SOC running KitKat 4.4, with Kingo Root, to allow me to run a VNC server, because I use a free Android app called Valence on my phone as a wifi trackpad/mouse and use my phone's keyboard to type on the Android TV. Root allows me to use the free RemoDroid app to control my Android TV from my phone or tablets from anywhere in my house.
Kodi comes on mine, and it's a free app in the Play Store anyway. I tried to set it up last April, but it kept crashing. If you are into that sort of thing, it is a very capable media server for sure.
For playing local files, I think MX Player is the champion app.
I ultimately bought a Logitech k700 keyboard with built-in trackpad to use with mine - I purchased it refurbished on a Newegg special for fifteen dollars! I take that keyboard everywhere with me. I love it. I prefer to use an actual mouse, but since I bought the k700, I have not missed mice enough to actually plug one in. I like it because it is nearly full-sized, but still compact, and it comes already set up to use a single USB wireless dongle. Range has been great, and after almost a year I am still on the first set of batteries.
Just today I was looking into purchasing the remote that came with your TV box, so please, let me know if you like it.
I bought a Hubman USB 2.0 hub in case I need more ports. It seemed like a good idea to have it, but I have not actually plugged it into the Android stick yet. I'm sure it will support a mouse, keyboard & usb thumb-drive just fine.
I don't want to go too far off-topic, so if it's okay with you, I'll pm you a list of apps I use for video. Nothing seems to slow down my aging rk3188 quad. Your rk3368 octa-core is going to be fantastic! Would you please post a link to the auction? Even if the auction is closed, I'd love to take a look at the device. The price you paid is unbelieveable!
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Now it's $40 : http://www.ebay.com/itm/262241520176?ul_noapp=true
This one is $37 : http://www.ebay.com/itm/RK3368-2G-16G-Octa-Core-Smart-TV-BOX-KODI-Fully-XBMC-Loaded-Android5-1-Lollipop-/172059715005?hash=item280f8ee5bd:g:mt0AAOSwGotWlLtG
China gadgets also has firmware updates for it! ^^
Thanks, I'd love a list of apps!
Thanks for the links! It's insane that we can buy an 8-core computer for forty bucks. So sorry that I haven't checked in for a while.
I haven't really been watching TV or movies lately. When I've had free downtime, I've been playing a roll-playing game that's called Skydoms. I didn't think I'd get hooked on it, but then I did.
How is that box working out for you?
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As far as I'm aware this isn't a duplicate thread, because all the gamepad-related threads I can find are about using existing controllers with the NP. I don't own one.
The official gamepad is sold out everywhere but eBay, for which I would have trust issues, and I don't know that an Xbox 360 controller is the best option for someone who doesn't already own it. I'd be getting a $50 controller with a $20 receiver, the official version of which I can't find from any Canadian retailer, and I'm getting mixed opinions on how well that setup even works.
So I'm wondering if there's a third party controller I'm missing. Bluetooth preferred, though I have an OTG adapter if needed. Or maybe the 360 is my best option, in which case I'd like to know if anyone's tried any of the plethora of third-party wireless receivers on Canadian Amazon. I once bought a crappy OTG cable based on user reviews that barely worked and eventually broke, and now I'm leery of accessories that aren't from a known brand.
I'm using the steelseries stratus xl and i love it best android controller out there, works for every game and you don't need to mess with the button layout all the time.
Woot's got the official controller for $30 shipped: http://sellout.woot.com/plus/asus-gaming-controller-1?ref=w_gh_so_11_wp_1
Prior to receiving replies, I ended up ordering the Tronsmart Mars G01 despite knowing little about it, because it was a cheaper option yet specifically claimed to support Android TV. It's not Bluetooth but it comes with its own wireless dongle. I haven't tried enough Play Store games to definitively state whether it's an out-of-the-box replacement for the Asus gamepad, but thus far it seems to get the job done.
And I really hope I don't have a compatibility issue with any one game, because if I do, I'll be scouring their website for a "game controller app" that I can't find for the life of me, nor would I particularly want a random proprietary apk file that requests root access. But hey, I haven't needed it so far.
This is what i'm using http://www.8bitdo.com/nes30pro/ works great, I have a spare 120GB SSD hooked up that I use as adopted storage and have tons of console/arcade emulators set up on the device I also have all the zen pinball tables I own installed (though some have to be installed through the play store website, I also use ARC Browser to sort and manage all of my roms and act as a launcher for apps that don't have proper android TV icons, I also have messed around with some native apps such as soul calibur and Minecraft and it works great for all of them, the build quality is good and feels very much like an NES/SNES controller, battery life is decent as well. there is an app for mapping controls on games that do not support it but I have not tried it on the nexus player yet.
I feel a bit dumb asking this question, but is there any difference between a Beelink MINI MXIII and one described as Beelink MINI MXIII II ?
from what I have seen they are identical, so why the mark 2 designation?
Beelink have a 'mkii' here: http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_443335.html?wid=3
ebay appear to have the same device here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beelink-M...690254?hash=item419f9c3ace:g:HVkAAOSw-0xYW4~P
I have the "II" and it's been pretty great so far. There is some sort of difference, but I can't tell you what. But I can tell you that I tried running libreelec on it, (one of the Kodi forum members bakes his own), and on my II, bluetooth and wifi did not work, (but apparently did work on the original). I am not sure but I think the II had 2GB of ram, too.
FWIW, I have seen a lot of posts about people having problems with the "II" but I can tell you I've had nothing but a great experience with it. But then again, I've modded it slightly, tweaked it here and there, etc. I also bought mine from Gearbest, so if you have any questions, let me know.
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I have the "II" and it's been pretty great so far. There is some sort of difference, but I can't tell you what. But I can tell you that I tried running libreelec on it, (one of the Kodi forum members bakes his own), and on my II, bluetooth and wifi did not work, (but apparently did work on the original). I am not sure but I think the II had 2GB of ram, too.
FWIW, I have seen a lot of posts about people having problems with the "II" but I can tell you I've had nothing but a great experience with it. But then again, I've modded it slightly, tweaked it here and there, etc. I also bought mine from Gearbest, so if you have any questions, let me know.
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I have ordered one from Gearbest EU Warehouse after all as the logos shown on the ebay photos do not show the 'II'.
I hadn't heard about any wifi problems and have not had any with my previous Beelinks but I use Ethernet any way.
BTW, I had never heard of libreelec and have just googled it - it sounds good but perhaps not for me.
I like full Android on my boxes because I use other apps such as Modbro and IPTV for my sports - I gave up on sports via Kodi ages ago.
You got it. I decided to stick with Android on it, too. The main reason is exactly what you mentioned. In fact, I side loaded Amazon Prime Videos tonight and that's ultimately what brought me to this forum.
It's not obvious but it will come rooted. I installed superSU, an SSH server, a different launcher, BusyBox, and a VPN client so I can get international content.
On my home LAN is use OpenDNS to block ads and adult content, (I have kids) but it also blocks some of the streaming providers. But I use extra Dnsmasq options to specifically have the Beelink box use Google's DNS servers. Granted this is an advanced topic but it works great.
Edit: I also use a Logitech K400 Plus keyboard. It is so much better than little remote it comes with. The routinely go on sale for about $19 US on Amazon. I've also tried some of the mini wireless keyboards. They work well, too.
jpabian said:
You got it. I decided to stick with Android on it, too. The main reason is exactly what you mentioned. In fact, I side loaded Amazon Prime Videos tonight and that's ultimately what brought me to this forum.
It's not obvious but it will come rooted. I installed superSU, an SSH server, a different launcher, BusyBox, and a VPN client so I can get international content.
On my home LAN is use OpenDNS to block ads and adult content, (I have kids) but it also blocks some of the streaming providers. But I use extra Dnsmasq options to specifically have the Beelink box use Google's DNS servers. Granted this is an advanced topic but it works great.
Edit: I also use a Logitech K400 Plus keyboard. It is so much better than little remote it comes with. The routinely go on sale for about $19 US on Amazon. I've also tried some of the mini wireless keyboards. They work well, too.
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it's all good here mate, and even though I have rooted many phones I've not yet done so to my boxes. I may give it a go sometime .....
NB - I just sent you a PM
I'm looking to get an Android TV device and I am overwhelmed with options. I want something that is fully unlockable with an active development community. What originally got me interested was the Amazon Fire TV but after reading up it seems the new units are no longer rootable/unlockable. That lead me down the path to other devices. I think I've settled on the AMLogic based devices (if there are other suggestion I'm open). It looks like there are basically 3.
S905 - Older chip and stuck with Android 5 roms
S905x - Newer with 4k but performance is not as good at the S905. More dev/roms available
S912 - 8 core. Has DVB S2/T2 support (not sure what that does for me though) Does not seem to be a lot of dev for this. Only one thread I saw.
Based on these assumptions I'm leaning toward a X96 - S905x 2GB/16GB model for $42.99.
Also. Do the non Amazon devices support Amazon video? My current chromecast's do not and that is one reason for the upgrade.
I am in a similat boot here
Decided on the X96 because I found the page for the firmware updates before I found a link to buy the box LOL
Apart from the missing BT a great box considering the usual limitations.
Amazon video only works on Amazon devices AFAIK but I don't use it.
Same story for Android TV, great hype about it but I think it is just a crippled launcher with really limited content showing up - mainly Youtube and Google but nothing else.
The S912 seems to be the affordable alternative if you need BT and a bit more computing power for games but S905D boxes are slowly turning up.
Same for devices running on Android7 and offering up to 3GB/32GB.
But Android7 for TV boxes is in an early beta to say it nice with a lot of bugs and half cooked menu structures - better to wait a bit longer if you ask me.
And since the hardware for these boxes is literally identical within the families it comes down to personal preference and what can be modded or not.
Personally I am starting to think that despite the huge price tag the Shield is still the best option in terms of quality, hardware and support.
DVB is for terrestial and satellite TV.
Thanks. I did not realize there was no BT on the S905x boxes. My only concern there is I was planning to use a wireless BT keyboard with it.
Almost all wireless keyboards that come with a dongle will work, for example the Logitech and MS ones, same for the dirt cheap and tiny touchpad keyboards you get on Ebay.
BT is only a problem if you need it for game controllers, weather stations or to pair some speakers to it.
I see. I went ahead and ordered a X96 that included a mini keyboard last night. I figure for $47.98, including shipping, what the heck right? I'll have a cheap new toy to play with.
Once you played enough you will start playing even more when you try different custom roms
hi please help i flashed wrong twrp recovery i think now my amlogic smartbox failed to boot in recovery mode and the main problem is my smartbox Encryption Unsuccessful Factory reset, when i click factory reset nothing happend please guide how to solve this
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