First of all, allow me to make a compliment: you're a well-behaved crowd, and it's a pleasure hosting this forum. We're only asking you the above because although we feel we can deal with the extra noise generated by anonymous users, we want to know how others feel about it.
I the mean time, we hope everyone is OK with us deleting:
posts where users start swearing at one-another for no apparent reason.
duplicates. Please assume lots of people read almost everything that is posted, so don't post twice. If you're afraid people will miss your post because it's 'only' a reply, then post a new topic (if you must).
'guest' posts which obviously call for others to contact the poster (haven't deleted any of these yet...). If people want to be reacheable, then they should get an account. 'Reply on this forum to get in touch with me' is just too silly.
Warez, serialz, etz...
Almost forgot: we will also delete any posts asking for copies of commercial software or serial numbers, as well as posts from people offering them.
As said in previous discussions: we do not have any major moral objections, but mostly just practical ones: warez trading in forums like this tends to get rather big rather quickly, and often gets in the way of more content-focused discussion.
We recommend news://alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc for all your warez-trading needs.
don't let guests register
I tend to register only after a site has proven it's value.
Guests are not annoying on the premis that there is some form of crowd control which is the case here. I agree about the warez trading but don't think the real risk is in the occasional user/guest trying to save a few bucks. Those can be handled. The real 'risk' for boards like this are the commercial traders, those should be banned fiercly.
Robert
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hmmmm, reading back my message
i could use a spellchecker on this board!!!
I reckon registration gives an air of security to posters, but can only go a small way towards keeping out unwelcome posts such as flames and warez.
Wouldn't it be great if all the energy that went in to hacking, blagging and flaming was diverted into constructive use?
Dream on.
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Wouldn't it be great if all the energy that went in to hacking, blagging and flaming was diverted into constructive use?
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Hey... We're hacking...
Sorry. I reverted to the derogatory usage of the word.
Must remember my audience. :wink:
I've twice ended up posting as a guest after I registered because I forgot to enter my username. Though this time it has automatically recognised me, other times it hasn't for some reason.
I agree
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I've twice ended up posting as a guest after I registered because I forgot to enter my username. Though this time it has automatically recognised me, other times it hasn't for some reason.
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I have done similar. Mainly due to using so many different computers. Home, work, friends etc. So my suggestion is to make it clearer when you're not logged in.
Perhaps when you write a message just "gently" ask to register before posting. But not insist.
After all for those people intent on destruction, all that they have to do is register each time they come back. A deterent but simple to get around..
I donated via paypal on Monday 10th Jan the 5 Euros you suggest on your website http://zendrui.free.fr/ so that I could get a copy of Pocket Zenphone but have heard nothing and would now like to know how I can get the software , or indeed if you received the 5 Euros ?
Thanks
I didn't know there was a link between that Web site and this one?
Anyway, that Web site doesn't have much in the way of contact details and there doesn't seem to be any recourse to complain because, to me, it looks like it's a complete fake!
Surely it only required a quick few glances at their Web site to deduce it wasn't a very formal and "official" Web site?
Why did you decide to pay someone money when you had so little information about them?
I prefer to buy software from legitimate and reputable companies, such as Handango.com. Did it ever occur to you that "Don't pay Handango because they take most of the money" is actually another way of saying "Just give me your damn money!"
I think you've been duped.
Sorry.
although these two sites are not related, zendrui is a genuine and respected member and pzp is his honest product.
Any questions are usually answered reasonably fast in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6162&start=3175
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although these two sites are not related, zendrui is a genuine and respected member and pzp is his honest product.
Any questions are usually answered reasonably fast in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6162&start=3175
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Agreed, Mr. Guest please check before you slander someone! :evil:
Slander someone !! What are you talking about , I was merely asking if he received any money and if so , how I would receive the software
If you think I have been as naive as you say then take alook at this link http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4385&highlight=zen
from a very reputable site reviewing the product and directing me there to purchase it
I can plainly see that Zendrui is a respected member , is genuine and has a great product ... never said or implied otherwise ...why would I have tried to buy it if I didn't think so ? I also beg to differ , the site doesn't look obviously fake to me , if that makes me naive then so be it
I'd still like to hear from Zendrui himself if he sees this if possible please
Any unintended slur apologised for , but truly no intention
i don't think iggy's remark was for the first guest, more likely for the second
I'm writing here because I haven't posted enough to post in the developement section. I have had my pad since they came out. I've rooted and hacked almost every electronic device I've ever had, going back to my Timex Sinclair. I read the delevopement posts numerous times a day. I've flashed this more times than I dare to count (very, very few issues, so few infact, sold my A500). So I go into the developement thread, some guy has asked a question regarding an issue he's having and the response he gets...(I'm paraphrasing), "If you had bothered to read....you wouldn't even of asked". It wasn't even a question of having wifi issues! This person (and others) take the time to go after someone who is asking a ligitimate question (at least in their own mind), and heaven forbid they didn't read all 500 plus posts and that's the response, that's all you got. I've donated, will continue to donate and continue to be amazed at what Leo and the group have done, but I won't ever ask a question on this forum. Maybe it's just a way to get their "Post" numbers up (it's working for me). I read many posts about how great this group is, and yet we need to blast folks...those of you that do so must be the same folks driving up and down HWY 41 everyday! I'm done...now I have two posts. Oh and thanks Leo, more $ on it's way!
So you think the Touchpad mods suck? Or you think requiring 10 posts before posting in development sucks?
Personally I think 80% of what gets posted in development isn't development. IMO hail to the TP mods for getting the Q and A section added!
If you wanna post in development, go actually contribute by answering questions.
The 10 post rule is to weed out spammers. It isn't hard to get 10 legit helpful posts.
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I'm writing here because I haven't posted enough to post in the developement section. I have had my pad since they came out. I've rooted and hacked almost every electronic device I've ever had, going back to my Timex Sinclair. I read the delevopement posts numerous times a day. I've flashed this more times than I dare to count (very, very few issues, so few infact, sold my A500). So I go into the developement thread, some guy has asked a question regarding an issue he's having and the response he gets...(I'm paraphrasing), "If you had bothered to read....you wouldn't even of asked". It wasn't even a question of having wifi issues! This person (and others) take the time to go after someone who is asking a ligitimate question (at least in their own mind), and heaven forbid they didn't read all 500 plus posts and that's the response, that's all you got. I've donated, will continue to donate and continue to be amazed at what Leo and the group have done, but I won't ever ask a question on this forum. Maybe it's just a way to get their "Post" numbers up (it's working for me). I read many posts about how great this group is, and yet we need to blast folks...those of you that do so must be the same folks driving up and down HWY 41 everyday! I'm done...now I have two posts. Oh and thanks Leo, more $ on it's way!
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Hello there.
Trust me I understand the frustration. I don't like it much either. But the monster has been created and we need to tame it. The bigger question is how.
I personally don't like building up thread counts and can attribute a ton of posts are not dev related.
One idea I'm working on is cleaning up the OP with more usable content to help the new comers and help guide those that are not. I am working on a Q&A link that will be a PDF that helps shine light on some of the problems we have. Also there is room for me to make a very initiative installation guide in PDF form for people to print and have the ability to make notes to help guide thru the process.
While people jump the gun and are on attack mode at times, many times they aren't. The thread is so large its hard to even search for answers so that's where I get the point. I hope you don't let ur frustrations stop you from using the rom.
I also plan on talking to a few people that can help answer via pm. This will take the load off.
I appreciate ur feedback and support and just know that 99% of the guys are good folks.
Have a good one
~leo
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"So you think the Touchpad mods suck? Or you think requiring 10 posts before posting in development sucks?"
Didn't say either...point was, I couldn't respond directly in the development forum...
"If you wanna post in development, go actually contribute by answering questions."
That's just funny....proves my point, somewhat (though I guess I didn't ask a question). I can't "contribute" for 2 reasons; first, don't have enough posts, second, don't know enough. That's why I go there numerous times a day, to try and learn. Someday, I hope I can contribute. Right now I do it with my pocket book. (Is that one word or two?). However, if you ever need help with an insurance claim, I can knock your socks off!
Seriously and thank you again as usual Leo. I know the vast majority of folks are trying to be helpful. There are a few right now though that post a lot and many of those posts are not helpful, just rude (I had a tough day at work, try managing an insurance claims dept, talk about rude). Sorry about the 500 too, should have read more carefully...
I'm typing this on my computer. I just started getting "FCs" with the XDA app, not kidding... what are the chances...suppose I got what I deserved...
Everyone, have a great weekend.
I know of the posts you're referring too, and most of the reason why we're getting aggravated is because most of the answers can be found in the OP of the thread. It's gets really old when we're told 15 times a day that wifi doesn't work.
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Ill tell you whats equally annoying. When you subscribe to a Dev thread to see when something gets updated, and you get an email notification every time someone responds with "cant wait" or "me too" or "this+1". I understand people are excited, Im excited for it too, but its seems people just like posting for the sake of posting. If I was a dev trying to follow what problems people were having, Id pull my hair out trying to weed through all the nonsense.
And now for the ever so annoying....."end rant." (hate that equally)
I'd like to agree with all the points made here and also refer to the video azrienoch made a while ago referring to noobs. Some posters thinking they have enough posts to ignore basic etiquette. Its actually better to sit on the sidelines and learn rather than post unnecessary things. I feel like it's a good idea to ponder your post to consider if you can find the answer another way, post in a more topic related thread or just render the post useless.
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I fully understand getting aggravated. Again, 30 + years in insurance claims, heard it all. The question is how do we show/express that aggravation. My "job" includes dealing with aggravation/frustration in a professional manner. Dealing with my wife, my kids and now grand kids. I must show restraint. I understand this isn't your job, and in my opinion, even more reason to show restraint and compassion. Who cares if a person hasn't read all the posts (and weeded through all the superfluous stuff as mentioned above (agree by the way). Maybe they missed it, maybe they didn't understand it, maybe they work 12 hours a day and don't have the time to read every post and are simply looking to "friends" to give them a hand. There are a lot more important things to get aggravated about. And Krunk (can I call you Krunk?), I've read a lot of your posts, you can be extremely helpful and your are obviously extremely knowledgeable. Use your powers for good! I'm a good guy, I mean no disrespect. I do understand all the experienced folks getting annoyed with the same questions. I need to practice what I preach and show some grace (patience and understanding) to those on HWY 41 (between Fresno and Yosemite). Again, thanks for listening. Now I have to figure out how to remove the Rom, update WebOS (can't we just get rid of that....I know, I know, asked answered ) and put Rom back on. Take care all.
Thar
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I'd like to agree with all the points made here and also refer to the video azrienoch made a while ago referring to noobs. Some posters thinking they have enough posts to ignore basic etiquette. Its actually better to sit on the sidelines and learn rather than post unnecessary things. I feel like it's a good idea to ponder your post to consider if you can find the answer another way, post in a more topic related thread or just render the post useless.
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That Azrienoch video is great. He put a lot of time in making that one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
I understand what u meen op and i wanna help people out too but 90% of the stuff on those forums is flying on the internet and noone cares to search. Just google it. Tthats the first place i look at and 9/10 times the answer is there. Also if u really want to help someone out and you acnt because u got restricted send them a PM and carry on. This way u help the guy out and dont spend 1h arguing with somebody over something offtopick.
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I fully understand getting aggravated. Again, 30 + years in insurance claims, heard it all. The question is how do we show/express that aggravation. My "job" includes dealing with aggravation/frustration in a professional manner. Dealing with my wife, my kids and now grand kids. I must show restraint. I understand this isn't your job, and in my opinion, even more reason to show restraint and compassion. Who cares if a person hasn't read all the posts (and weeded through all the superfluous stuff as mentioned above (agree by the way). Maybe they missed it, maybe they didn't understand it, maybe they work 12 hours a day and don't have the time to read every post and are simply looking to "friends" to give them a hand. There are a lot more important things to get aggravated about. And Krunk (can I call you Krunk?), I've read a lot of your posts, you can be extremely helpful and your are obviously extremely knowledgeable. Use your powers for good! I'm a good guy, I mean no disrespect. I do understand all the experienced folks getting annoyed with the same questions. I need to practice what I preach and show some grace (patience and understanding) to those on HWY 41 (between Fresno and Yosemite). Again, thanks for listening. Now I have to figure out how to remove the Rom, update WebOS (can't we just get rid of that....I know, I know, asked answered ) and put Rom back on. Take care all.
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Everyone calls me Krunk
I put my FAQ in my signature to help with most questions regarding the Touchpad
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Jwoc12, I re read what you wrote and just want to say thanks for reminding me of when I first got my OG Droid back in the day. I've always been good with tech, I'm even a 2ND level network admin, but boy do I remember feeling over whelmed just rooting Froyo back then, haha.
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I agree with the rants on both sides in this thread.
I understand the need to "weed out the newbs", but 10 posts doesn't make someone think any more than not having 10 posts makes them brainless.
On the on other hand, it will weed out those who just want to show up and quickly troll (you have to be a dedicated troll to get past the restriction).
I've been frustrated many, many times with the fact that I cannot respond to questions that I know I can answer... one I answered via pm, but I don't think the person ever noticed.
One thing I find extremely confusing is how people are getting around these limits.
I've seen more than a few posts in the XRON dev thread by people with only 2 or 3 posts! (yet another just showed up, asking a question that I can answer)
It honestly wouldn't take more than a few minutes to post 10 things on the entire XDA site if you're that concerned.
Posting in the developers threads is for developers or people troubleshooting development issues, you sound like you just want to throw your 2 cents in and have everyone tell you how great you are.
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While I understand your frustration I just can not agree with you on several comments you made. The thread that you are speaking about is extremely long as you stated. You stated yourself that you read every post and go through pages of posts per day. And let me say that I thank you for doing the right thing and reading everything before posting.
I do work 10 hour days and while yes it would be easier for me to rude and just ask a question in the middle of a thread that has already been answered or addressed I dont do it. Why? Its rude and lazy. These extra posts waste everyone's time because everyone that follows the thread has that many more post to read and go through. Its a huge waste of time.
I hate to go on a little mindless rant but I do not like the way of thinking that people have today. Its a me first attitude. They dont read whats already posted or google it(which takes 2 seconds). Instead they cut off the flow of the post or conversation to ask a question that is not relevant or has already been answered.
I myself have yet to ask a question. Why? Am I super smart? NO I am not. But by reading the posts and googling what I had trouble finding I was able to find my answers.
Ok sorry about my rant. Everyone can go back to what they were doing. I just had to get this out as I have seen way too much of this lately.
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It honestly wouldn't take more than a few minutes to post 10 things on the entire XDA site if you're that concerned.
Posting in the developers threads is for developers or people troubleshooting development issues, you sound like you just want to throw your 2 cents in and have everyone tell you how great you are.
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It's not obvious which one of us you're responding to, but it is moderately obvious that you're trolling, but I'll bite anyways just in case you're actually serious (and referring to me).
XDA, even in the general section, when you're under 10 posts, limits you to 1 post per 5 minutes (this includes editing your own posts for accuracy, which is how I found out). So much for your "only a few minutes" theory.
You obviously haven't read the XDA dev thread at all (I've read > 95% of the posts in that thread) or you wouldn't be posting such a reply about the purpose of the thread.
The frustrating question I was referring to that I wanted to answer wasn't for glory (are you serious?), it was to stem the 2 day flood of useless answers this poor person received (half were unhelpful, the others were flaming, leaving this poor person extremely frustrated). Not one person gave the reply I ended up sending the person in a PM, but the thread was derailed (for at least the hundredth time) extensively with a very non-development-related topic. My intent was solely to stem this and bring the thread back on topic.
First let me clarify, my comment or "title" ...10 posts was simply to say I could not post what I was about to say in the developement section....nothing to do with the rule. It is what it is...If I could think of 10 important things to say, it would not be difficult to get to 10 posts. What I was trying to say and what is now happening even in this little tread is that is it really necessary to go after folks for voicing an opinion or asking a question etc. Again, using my silly analogy, some "fool" is tailgating my butt down HWY 41 (with a line of cars all doing 65 (55 posted) and finally pulls out and around (scarring the crap out of the guy coming the other way) just to get one car ahead. 5 minutes later were right next to each other at the light (HWY 41 and 145 (google it)). What's the point. How pissed off do I really want to get? Just back off and let them go....folks complain about the continued same question (you say google, then why have the forum?), then we see pages of people pissed off, now people have to read through all that. For what it's worth, I've see a lot less of it recently in the dev forum, and that's a good thing...right? Let people ask their questions, point them in the right direction (or just let it go). Hey Krunk, I have the original droid, that was fun, son has it now, he's playing with MUIU. I remember setting up a "clean room" in my home back in the day to put additional memory in my Amiga 1000. I think I even put the cat in a hazmat suit! My wife still gives me grief over that. It's all about fun!
I would ask that if you have ideas on how to improve this forum please send me a PM. I have been moderator for th TP for just a couple weeks and I am cleaning things more everyday.
OK I'm sure everyone has seen these two jokers around the forums. Fake "jellybean" ports and the like. Also Moneyover finds it alright to get free phones on warranty after he committed noob errors. In that very same thread skyrocket23 posted in his defense. Judging by their similar posting style and general ignorance, not to mention trolling patterns, I've concluded that they are either blood relatives in the same house, or the same person. Not to mention their join date is one day apart.
Mods I know this thread might seem pointless, but my intention is to get both these accounts banned. They don't contribute anything to the community, and are in essence highly evolved trolls, the likes of which are seldom seen. They appear to run off of what are called "thanks." Every thread they open seem to be centered around this. Anyway, I know skyrockets account is suspended, let's finish the job and throw the book/ban hammer at them. That is all
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OK I'm sure everyone has seen these two jokers around the forums. Fake "jellybean" ports and the like. Also Moneyover finds it alright to get free phones on warranty after he committed noob errors. In that very same thread skyrocket23 posted in his defense. Judging by their similar posting style and general ignorance, not to mention trolling patterns, I've concluded that they are either blood relatives in the same house, or the same person. Not to mention their join date is one day apart.
Mods I know this thread might seem pointless, but my intention is to get both these accounts banned. They don't contribute anything to the community, and are in essence highly evolved trolls, the likes of which are seldom seen. They appear to run off of what are called "thanks." Every thread they open seem to be centered around this. Anyway, I know skyrockets account is suspended, let's finish the job and throw the book/ban hammer at them. That is all
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only the noobs will follow the dipshits. I say let em.
I was all for getting that working, but refusing to post any info just proved that he did nothing. I would've flashed it if he wanted to actually do something other than steal(no clue if he had permission) others work(thats what he can get banned for)
But starting a thread to get what your after, is just gonna get you banned man. or atleast not look too good.
Guess i should've just stated. we have PM's for these thoughts.
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Mods I know this thread might seem pointless, but my intention is to get both these accounts banned. They don't contribute anything to the community, and are in essence highly evolved trolls, the likes of which are seldom seen. They appear to run off of what are called "thanks." Every thread they open seem to be centered around this. Anyway, I know skyrockets account is suspended, let's finish the job and throw the book/ban hammer at them. That is all
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This does not belong in a thread. Issues with other forumers should be addressed directly with one of the forum moderators via private message.
Just a bug bear of mine, why so many babies buy phones just to publicly moan about them?
Is this forum phone owners version of Facebook.
A - "I am really annoyed with my crappy phone that is worse than a brick"
B - "What's up snowflake, inbox me"
In conclusion. There is nowt wrong with the Mate 20 Pro.
The end.
Isn't the point of the forum for people to ask for advice with issues with the handset? Would be pretty pointless if every post was just "this phone is great, isn't it" and then everyone agreeing.
But after moaning about everyone being "babies", your pointless, whiny post does come across rather juvenile...
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Oh the irony.....,also the op is a senior member yet the one with common sense and reason is a junior member oh the irony.
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Oh the irony.....,also the op is a senior member yet the one with common sense and reason is a junior member oh the irony.
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zolaisugly said:
Oh the irony.....,also the op is a senior member yet the one with common sense and reason is a junior member oh the irony.
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That's not what's happening. XDA is filled with fake posts from fake Junior Accounts whose purpose is to criticize phones made by One Plus competitors. I see the same posts across XDA in threads for multiple phones from Xiaomi and Huawei.
XDA is also filled with posts from members who apparently spent $800 or more on the M20P just so they could complain about not being able to unlock the bootloader even though they should have known that long before they ever bought the phone. Those posts almost always end with the words "this is my last Huawei phone..."
The M10P was the current Huawei flagship when they stopped allowing bootloaders to be unlocked so shouldn't that have been their last Huawei phone?
*****ing and moaning is not the same as asking other XDA members for advice and the XDA threads for this phone are easily 95% completely pointless *****ing and moaning.
Yeesh. The Mate 20 Pro isn't perfect. A lot of us didn't have the foresight to get an unlock code while they were available, so we may never have root. That means living with a variety of EMUI nuisances. I don't see a huge number of threads where people are complaining, in fact I'm surprised there aren't more. Personally, wifi is just broken on my phone - good thing I have a lot of data on my plan.