As Huawei Mate 10 pro was shipped with Android 8 last year I believe Mate 10 Pro also was a part of the Project Treble initiative. If that is so, is it correct to assume that we will soon see an OTA update for Android 9 to the Huawei Mate 10 Pro? And if so, does anyone know anything about the timeline? Like when can we expect to receive Android 9?
Project Treble is a major re-architecture in the way Android works. In essence, it separates the Android operating system (the Android 'framework') from the vendor Hardware Abstraction Layers ('HALs') that allow for the OS to work with the device's hardware
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There have been a few OTA updates including safety patches until August 2019. So that is all good, but when I look in the "About Phone" in settings I am still on Android 8. As I am running this Mate 10 unrooted with a stock ROM I am really looking forward to Android 9 update, and have been checking frequently for new updates without luck.
Anyone knows more about this? Any set date or rumors about an upcoming update to Android 9 for the Mate 10 (pro)?
Currently there is Public beta going on if you are lucky for it to be available.
Date unknown. Probably sometime after the Mate 20 released.
Im in the same boat. Waiting for updates to alot of promised features
that are still lacking in the Mate 10. If Huawei released Android 8.1 for people outside of
China we would already have them.
Instead they are quick to release PUBG and GPU turbo fixes cause we would rather have that than updates for
Camera and Slow Mo 960fps etc.
Second beta was just released. Will update on Friday.
Information from the official Huawei forum in Serbia says that rollout of the official EMUI 9.0 for Mate10 Pro will start on December 14th.
So the Emui is equal to the Android version as in when Huawei update/bump their EMUI to 9.0 that means they will also bump the core to android 9?
Ok, probably just me that have read to much into the Project Treble an the separation of HAL. Since I first read about the HAL last year I kind of figured that the mobile devices that shipped with Android 8 would get a really timely bump to Android 9, like within weeks only after the android bump. So in my mind I kind of expected the roll out of new Android to be almost close to equal to the end of beta for Android 9.
On a semi related question, iirc the back story of the Project Treble was that Google wanted to address the fact that manufacturers did not commit to keep their Android devices updated, and that most of the manufacturers has a short life span of updates. Which combined lead to ie some bad press regarding vulnerability for many older Android devices, along with a less desirable user experiences with aging Android devices. Not to mention the lack of abilities to take advantage of all the newer software improvements that follows each Android update each fall. There have been a couple of Google initiatives prior to Project Treble, without hardly any traction and without Google being able to force manufacturers to stay committed.
So with the Project Treble Google did from what I can remember,make it mandatory for join the Project Treble for those who shipped their devices with Android 8. In my mind that translated to all kinds of things. Like Google putting down minimum requirements for number of updates manufacturers had to commit to, the speed of which they release updates etc.
However, did Google in fact put any of those requirements into Project Treble? Can we in fact look forward to having ie set number of supported updates from manufacturers in the future? Or will the big brands still be able to ignore their customer base rapidly and push forward with new models and focus their energy towards people updating their devices and buying the next year model rather then keeping their previous model with less overall waste, less economic impact and a more sustainable hardware update factor?
Treble means it would be much quicker and easier for oems to update to the newest version of Android, but it would still have to be the OEM making the update and pushing it out to your phone (unless it's an Android one or pixel phone I don't think Google themselves creates the updates)
There are no mandatory commitments to speed or number of updates, I think the only requirement was must be able to boot aosp (but unless your bootloader is unlocked you can't flash aosp anyway)
They will not release the 9 in the near future because they will launch mate 20 in less than a month.... they don't want to hurt sales.
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They will not release the 9 in the near future because they will launch mate 20 in less than a month.... they don't want to hurt sales.
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Yeah but not the final version we need the beta at least ?
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Treble means it would be much quicker and easier for oems to update to the newest version of Android, but it would still have to be the OEM making the update and pushing it out to your phone (unless it's an Android one or pixel phone I don't think Google themselves creates the updates)
There are no mandatory commitments to speed or number of updates, I think the only requirement was must be able to boot aosp (but unless your bootloader is unlocked you can't flash aosp anyway)
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Well if Google didn't take any steps to enforce manufacturers to actually keep updating they should keep their mouth shut about it later when we will see as usual that android devices are lagging behind in version numbers.
I really thought Google went balls in and was brave last last year with Project Treble and put down some new ground rules for their OEM's. But now it seems treble is just as weak hearted as the previous attempts from Google. Well I guess the solution is custom ROM's.
Manufacturers will never keep updating unless they are pressured to do so, they will always chase the sale of the next device and try to maximize profit rather then committing to last years hardware is up to date. So I guess project treble was a nice idea but google lacked the balls to actually lay down the law and demand dedication. Spineless. And to think they once lived by the catchphrase "don't be evil".
Can you test in Europe? I know that the next person in China is testing k.b 1500 users !?
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Can you test in Europe? I know that the next person in China is testing k.b 1500 users !?
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Beta test in Europe is already opened. 101 per country
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Ran across this image and wanted to share it with you guys . This is an ETA time sheet for the EMUI 3.0 update across Huawei devices and the american version of the Ascend Mate 2 4g (MT2-L03) is nowhere to be found . Though the other HAM2 models overseas are in the update plans . Sad to hear we are probably not likely going to get an update ! :thumbdown:
If this turns out to be true, this will likely be the last Huawei device I ever buy. They were 2 versions behind when they released it. A good custom rom will satisfy me though.
All the 3 MT2 listed in the chart are Chinese varies. But I agree Huawei has put MT2 to lower priority already. So hopefully they didn't list L03 just because that list is for domestic customers.
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All the 3 MT2 listed in the chart are Chinese varies. But I agree Huawei has put MT2 to lower priority already. So hopefully they didn't list L03 just because that list is for domestic customers.
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Yea, this could be true (Was thinking that myself) . Time will tell , hopefully we see an update before new years on our HAM2.
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If this turns out to be true, this will likely be the last Huawei device I ever buy. They were 2 versions behind when they released it. A good custom rom will satisfy me though.
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Agree! They are pushing very hard at promoting the HAM2 here in the US and I doubt that they would neglect any future OS updates as this is critical if they want to gain ground here in America . I'm sure they will , though they don't make those decisions here , their team in China does . That's why when people ask of they are gonna push an update they never give a concrete answer , just the typical " The HAM2 is upgradable and we will give out details when , if , it gets updated "
Not that big of a deal. Would it be nice? Yeah, but for my use, 4.3 is stable, runs everything I use.
If they did release 4.4, you know it would have some glitches out of the gate, which I would prefer not to
have. My Note1, which was replaced by the Mate2, I never got an "official" update past 4.1.2, and the custom
roms had some problems here or there. 4.1.2 was super stable.
I'll take an older stable version, over the new OS any day.
This could be the update to prepare for kit kat
http://blog.gethuawei.com/ascend-mate2-4g-lte-software-system-update/
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Thanks for the info, not sure this 20MB update requires unroot or not. hope not.
KitKat coming this November?
I came across an update schedule a while back browsing hauweinews dot com. Look for "EMUI 3.0 Release Schedule Announced."
HAM2 is supposed to get the EMUI 3.0 update this November.
The November release date is only currently confirmed for MT2-C00, MT2-L01,MT2-L02 and MT2-L05 I'm afraid. Rom will be available in November for these devices and OTA update will come in December.
Yea , like the previous post stated , only the Asian variants of the Mate2 have been confirmed . No word on our MT2-L03 yet . Happy that they will address low light photography with the update coming out on the 8th of this month though .. And other small fixes :thumbup:
I don't really care if we get EMUI 3.0. I just want KitKat with a newer version of EMUI to be able to access all the awesome themes. But EMUI 3.0 would obviously be cool Lol
EMUI 2 = Jellybean
EMUI 3 = Kit-Kat
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That's not strictly true as I'm on kitkat 4.4.2 with EMUI 2.3
I'm confident the US Mate2 is going to get the update. This is the only nice phone they have in America with LTE and its the only phone they are promoting on www.gethuawei.com. As a general marketing rule its going to be forced to be updated. The new Huawei Models coming out still does not have US LTE (idots). The phone is now coming out in Frys Electronics and It is now also being sold on ConsumerCellular. The more people keep buying this phone the better support we will get. HuaweiUSA is trying to stay here so a simple email to [email protected] telling them to give u kitkat updated wount hurt either.
https://www.consumercellular.com/Info/PhoneDetails/572
http://www.frys.com/search?plusearch=8142655&utm_source=BANG&utm_medium=onlineads
According to the faq in one of the Huawei pages KitKat is coming to mt2l03 but they dont commit to any date :/
Enviado desde mi MT2-L03 HAM2 ... i'm lovin' it
Well, look at it this way, upgrading from like OS to like OS (4.3, 4.3, 4.3.x) isn't that big of a deal usually.
Updating from a .3 to a .4, JB>KK, may bring with it a whole host of issues.
I'd rather they give the update to the Chinese version, work out the kinks, BEFORE bring it it to the LTE version.
Better user experience.
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Well, look at it this way, upgrading from like OS to like OS (4.3, 4.3, 4.3.x) isn't that big of a deal usually.
Updating from a .3 to a .4, JB>KK, may bring with it a whole host of issues.
I'd rather they give the update to the Chinese version, work out the kinks, BEFORE bring it it to the LTE version.
Better user experience.
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There are 5 carrier versions of the Chinese Mate 2, they are ALL LTE apart from the MT2-C00.
I am yet to find any kinks in KK.
No fc's, lags or anything else, it's been a rock solid experience so far. Hopefully you will get it soon. :good:
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There are 5 carrier versions of the Chinese Mate 2, they are ALL LTE apart from the MT2-C00.
I am yet to find any kinks in KK.
No fc's, lags or anything else, it's been a rock solid experience so far. Hopefully you will get it soon. :good:
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Perhaps, but, it's not a "game changer" for me. I don't really expect "significant" updates for devices from carriers or
manufacturers, save for Apple, because, if you think about it, it sort of goes against their business model. If a huge update
is pushed out, there is no incentive to buy a new device. Right now, the stock OS on the (U.S.) Mate2 is about one of the
most stable that I have come across.
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Perhaps, but, it's not a "game changer" for me. I don't really expect "significant" updates for devices from carriers or
manufacturers, save for Apple, because, if you think about it, it sort of goes against their business model. If a huge update
is pushed out, there is no incentive to buy a new device. Right now, the stock OS on the (U.S.) Mate2 is about one of the
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True, the Mate 2 is running well, but I own a lot of devices, all but the Mate 2 running 4.4.2 or higher. Stability has not been an issue as they all run without any issues. That being said the improvements made in Kit Kat have been rolled into the the apps themselves in 4.3. The cosmetic differences can be added rooting, with framework etc. The only thing I really notice is my emolge are black and white in any other apps besides Hangouts. That being said, Android L running ART could be a great impact on better performance, so getting the Kit Kat update would be nice to see too as well as continuing updates. I have older devices, S3 on StraighTalk for example that has never gotten an update in 2 years. Can't run some of the apps I use. Lg L86C, same boat, almost 400 bucks for that phone 2 years ago, never got an update, can't even run Google now launcher or Google wear. No emolge support at all. Those are both phones that would see great benefits in running Kit Kat with the lower ram and specifications. If the Ham 2 goes that route it would be my last phone from Huawei. Let's hope they continue to support the devices they make for at least 2 years. That would be satisfactory to me.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgce2efur8tq1ot/Screenshot_2017-05-13-17-13-44.png?dl=0 She said it was not compatible yet it got the wifi alliance http://www.wi-fi.org/content/search-page?keys=SM-A310F :confused: I think it's true because only the a5 2016 and a7 2016 got it but the a3 2016 hasn't?:crying:
Based on the existence of the certificate the update exists and is/was already under testing.
The only possible reason not to release it if they f*cked up the optimization of touchwiz for nougat like they did before a few times, resulting in failure to release updates to below flagship devices (like S4 mini).
The A36 is marketed as an ultra mid range device, so if it happens again despite their promises they could probably say goodbye to mid range buyers for once.
Let me explain: power users know Android. They (we) know that with every major update it's more and more optimized and less demanding on hardware, but Samsung seems to have a trouble following that trend with tw. They almost do the opposite, while people demand updates, and it's also in the interest of Google, so they have already warned manufacturers to do their best on the matter, specially Samsung after their past neglections. This topic has a great influence on our preferences and despite the other fields Samsung devices excelling in our eyes, it could change the situation. Now, most simple users choose devices based on our opinions. They ask us for advices. If I prefer Samsung devices, 100-150 people around me will prefer Samsung too based on my opinion; but if I prefer another brand instead, they will buy their devices instead. Now imagine how the numbers come with a lot more power users exisiting in the world, not just me.
The nougat update for A36 (having the broadest market amongst other A and J series devices thanks to it's handy size, yet powerful hw and quality housing) is a big opportunity to show us they have changed their attitude towards mid-range users, something people and Google are waiting for a long time, so they know it would be a disaster for them to back out from it in the final moments. I hope they won't.
I hope they release it but it explains why a7 and a5 2016 got nougat before the a3
link is broken
...if I get Nougat on my A3 2016...I won't ever enter this forum again.
Spreading negative information like this by pointing broken links as source is 3rd grade child stupidity.
It's not my fault if it doesn't work I saw it myself
Anyway if you want the link it's here https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9w3d54sk2fvguj/Screenshot_2017-05-18-18-20-37.png?dl=0. Next time don't swear at me.
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Anyway if you want the link it's here https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9w3d54sk2fvguj/Screenshot_2017-05-18-18-20-37.png?dl=0. Next time don't swear at me.
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These support guys don't know what they are saying... "I'm afraid it's not compatible" => there is no such thing. If they make a compatible build than it is compatible, simple as that. Also, when I've asked them, I got the response that IT IS GOOGLE WHO MAKES THE UPDATES, THEN THE CARRIERS REVIEW IT AND RELEASE IT. Yes, this is how it should be ideally if there would be a flexible hardware abstraction layer, but sadly it is Samsung who has to build the update after Google releases the source, and before carriers can deploy it... When I had to rate the conversation I wrote them that their support department has no access to proper information even about HOW updates work which is very troubling for conscious users who chose Samsung because of Android (+their quality hardware) and expect them to properly provide updates for their ultra mid range devices too, not just for their overpriced flagships.
http://www.samsung.com/tr/support/newsalert/100061 A3 2016 update got delayed to 29th may-2nd june
What a deception... I was hoping Samsung to be more faster on update.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/07/no-android-q-beta-samsung-galaxy-phones-not-yet
Samsung and updates not a good match my friend...if u get a samsung for updates..thats no good.
I got my samsung for the hardware and how beautifull it is. Also with one ui the phone is very snappy as it is. No need for updates as of now
seriously?
I hope no betas are released until Samsung's official one :laugh:
get a pixel!!
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. ?
Atleast it's coming this dec.
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Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. ?
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Yeah, it's true that Android Q hasn't a lot of new stuff.
No need of it now.
But, there's many manufacturers who participate to the beta. I don't understand why a big player like Samsung isn't on the list.
I wish they will participate soon.
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Yeah, it's true that Android Q hasn't a lot of new stuff.
No need of it now.
But, there's many manufacturers who participate to the beta. I don't understand why a big player like Samsung isn't on the list.
I wish they will participate soon.
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I've been through 2 betas with Samsung and before that I was in 3 or 4 with Motorola. To be honest, Samsung doesn't have a clue on how to run a beta program. When we reported problems in the Samsung Members app, the best we got if anything at all was to submit a report through the app to the developers. As far as I know no one got feedback other than we're looking into it. Everything I reported with the S9 carried over to the Pie final. Motorola had a dedicated forum with moderators that actually passed feedback back and forth. I even spoke with a software engineer two times.
Beta with Samsung is sort of here it is, hope it works. :laugh:
well,i was hoping samsung can update a new full screen gesture like android Q , MIUI 10 , oneplus 6's or maybe just build-in one hand operation in next firmware. and faster fingerprint scanning,it really sucks when you try so hard and it just not unlock the phone
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Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. [emoji57]
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Not sure I agree here. I'm running it on my Pixel 3 xl and it has many noteworthy features. There is live caption which let's you get real-time transcriptions of what is being said on any video, in any app, across the entire OS. There are systemwide UI changes like dark mode and improved gestural navigation and the back button; over 40 updates to the way security, permissions and privacy agreements are handled. Also, there are improvements to Android's security which will make them come faster thought the Playstore (Project Mainline), better parental controls, new Notification Assistant that will help you reply to incoming chats and other minor stuff. In my opinion, it is by no means a small upgrade, specially when you consider it is still in Beta 3 and will probably add even more features. So far, it runs smooth as butter for me and had great battery life.
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If it follows historically anything like previous generations of Samsung phones it should arrive to the S10 family sometime next year in February or March... Just in time for Google's Android R first preview release.
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Fredzvw said:
What a deception... I was hoping Samsung to be more faster on update.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/07/no-android-q-beta-samsung-galaxy-phones-not-yet
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Why? Samsung have no commitment to release a beta firmware to users. People today are too impatient, you need to learn to wait for these things.
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Why? Samsung have no commitment to release a beta firmware to users. People today are too impatient, you need to learn to wait for these things.
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? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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You accept it because that's pretty much the way Samsung has always been and not anyone here is going to change that. When someone buys a Samsung phone, they need to accept that as a condition. I would bet money that the majority of users worldwide care less about updates as long as their phone works reliably.
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? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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Other brands may very well offer beta firmware and if what you want is for firmware to come out quickly then I suggest next time you get one of those devices but what I said was be patient, it will eventually come out. You shouldn't be here just to whine about updates not coming out, I've been on XDA for nearly ten years now and it annoys me when people complain about the speed of updates. You should want a complete update without bugs and that takes time, making a post about it won't speed up the release and just clutters up the feed.
Samsung if you see has alot of devices to take care of. They release security patches on monthly bases to phone ranging from 100-max$ they have. Also the one ui which is very heavy skin needs to be fully usable and bug less in new android q. I myself have tried betas and didn't find anything usefull expect bragging in front my friends. Apps run same or maybe 1-2% faster in Q.
With Android betas you can download a new CPU & more RAM to your device so this is why it's so important to get it quickly from the manufacturer.
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With Android betas you can download a new CPU & more RAM to your device so this is why it's so important to get it quickly from the manufacturer.
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This made me chuckle [emoji1787]
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anyone wanting firmware first solution is easy buy a Google pixel
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Ahh the age old xda mass-debate about beta firmware.
Get yer popcorn sweet-cheekses, its gonna be a great
All this mass-debating :laugh:
In all seriousness tho Samsung won't be physically be able to release firmware as quick as Google due to the extra software overlay. Its that simple lol
Samsung has NEVER been known for releasing software early so I'm not sure why anyone would whine about slow updates.
Is look Android 10 UI 2.0 beta is coming soon ?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/which-galaxy-phones-will-get-an-android-10-beta-program/
Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Yes almost stock
No idea on the 2nd question
And there not the best for updates seems to be every 6 weeks or so
OnePlus are... Weird.
They run by this every 2 month update policy but here's the thing.
Lest take this as an example. It's end of January now, and February patch is a week or two away at tops, but they still release an update with January patch, instead of waiting that week or two and be fully in line with security patches.
OnePlus is probably closest to stock Except pixel phone. But I feel they are slowly drifting away form it, in my opinion, the implementation of OxygenOS is really poor.
And yes, this phone is 100% treble supported. (Which one would think would make updates fasters, but I guess not).
Could someone explain to me why the security updates are so important for some? What do they change for everyday user? (I'm asking seriously now, no hard feelings).
The only thing that needs fixing/updating asap for me is Horizon light, and this should be done much sooner. Apart from this everything is working fine, so I rather hesitate to update to not break something else, unless security update fixes the bugs, makes it more functional, faster or more battery friendly
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
HtcDesire2 said:
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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I think they do, Pixel 6 Dec patch was released 1 week after old devices (Which has not yet reached to mass - Source: https://9to5google.com/2021/12/20/does-your-pixel-6-have-the-december-2021-update-yet-poll/ ).
Android 12L beta 1 was released 2 days after the Dec patch for older devices, on Dec 8. And todays is 22nd Dec (more than a week after "so called" Dec patch release) but no sign of any 12L beta.
No comms or news about 12L beta as well, from google, for Pixel 6 series (apart from "Coming Soon" tag).
Regarding your curiosity: I bought pixel 6 just for regular updates and early access to newer version.
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
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I have downloaded the december release over OTA after searching for updates. Then rolled back to november because of the problems with calls and now the december release is not offered any loger (if i search for updates).
I even think they have stopped it.
If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
LLStarks said:
If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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No sign so far.. and most frustrating part is no official communication at all.
Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
HtcDesire2 said:
Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
0xkenny said:
google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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I personally don't consider it as a mess up. Been getting Google phones since the Nexus 6 with the exception of the Pixel 4. I would only guess that there is going to be a few bumps in the road with something like 6 being that it is a whole new "phone" in sorts if you would call it that. Consider a new type of chip (not been tested much if at all), new fingerprint scanner (For Google its new and it SUCKS), a little larger phone AND I think a large portion of it is consider supply and demand with supplies with building a phone. Google has always aimed for the NEXT best thing, a sort of pioneer. I had the Pixel 5 and it was great for about 6 months then nothing but problems for me. My wife loves her 5 and doesn't like the 6. Although she can handle the little things that drive me nuts with the 5 and she can't stand the trade off for the 6, being larger and the finger print scanner that is limited to 5 unlocks a day before charging (due to the time it takes to get the hamster run fast enough on his wheel). This is just my 2 cents worth and not even worth that most of the time.
If you know of another phone manufacturer, that offers monthly updates (95%) of the time for a min of 2 years, Is vanilla android, and gets new Android versions 1st not to mention unlockable bootloaders for those who have to tinker, don't be greedy! I am sure there is a few of us that would consider trying another phone line up just to try if nothing else. Darn that is another nickels worth . OK I shut up now..
I will be happy to try beta 12L for my android tv devices. Most Android tv boxes are using out dated software.
But for the P6 it is a no for me. I just do not see any benefits for the P6.
HtcDesire2 said:
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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me neither, friend inside says the ongoing issues shouldn't have any impact or be any reason for 12L's delay for us! idk
Good news today
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Good news today
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You installed it?
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ATM not, maybe at this weekend.
Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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I dont have those issues , if i had any i would allready installed it.
Maybe google is paying so much attention developping 12l that they forget to release stable android 12 updates...
I have already installed Android 12L. So fat Wi-Fi is working fine. Will give feedback after few days how's everything else.