whatsapp without gapps but with microG - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My device has no gapps installed (use microG instead), but I want to use whatsapp. It is working in general but incoming messages/calls doesn't wake up the device once it is in deep sleep. Especially for calls it is a problem which can't be solved with polling.
I disabled battery optimization already.
Whatsapp does not register for GCM when using microG. I assume it uses the newer Firebase method.
So my question:
Is there a version of whatsapp that supports GCM? Maybe it is supported up to a certain version?

The first thing to ask here is What is your device?

Ok sorry if this is unclear:
It is about a Galaxy A3 (2017) with LineageOS and microG - so without Gapps.
Issue is, that after a few minutes mobile doesn't wake up for incoming calls. Same for incoming messages. See this only after wake up the mobile.
Imho push notification is the issue. In former times it was done via GCM (google cloud messaging). This is replaced by the newer firebase.
But only the old GCM is supported by microG, which is a replacement for the play services from Google.

starbright_ said:
Imho push notification is the issue. In former times it was done via GCM (google cloud messaging). This is replaced by the newer firebase.
But only the old GCM is supported by microG, which is a replacement for the play services from Google.
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microG now supports FireBase Cloud Messaging (despite all the references in the app to GCM).

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No gmail notification in aggressive doze mode

After enabling aggressive doze mode, my battery life improves greatly. However, the price is that I only receive gmail notification after screen on. I have whitelisted gmail app and google play services of course, even all other apps related to Google. Other apps I whitelist work just fine, like Whatsapp and WeChat. So is there any other apps I need to add to whitelist to make gcm work? Or the aggressive doze mode has something wrong with it?
I'm using samsung s6 edge, marshmallow with xposed, and greenify in boost mode. Before updating to version 2.9, everything was fine.
zhjn921224 said:
After enabling aggressive doze mode, my battery life improves greatly. However, the price is that I only receive gmail notification after screen on. I have whitelisted gmail app and google play services of course, even all other apps related to Google. Other apps I whitelist work just fine, like Whatsapp and WeChat. So is there any other apps I need to add to whitelist to make gcm work? Or the aggressive doze mode has something wrong with it?
I'm using samsung s6 edge, marshmallow with xposed, and greenify in boost mode. Before updating to version 2.9, everything was fine.
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Have you found the other apps to whitelist? I am having the same issue.
price31 said:
Have you found the other apps to whitelist? I am having the same issue.
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I'm afraid not. I disabled aggressive doze mode now?
zhjn921224 said:
After enabling aggressive doze mode, my battery life improves greatly. However, the price is that I only receive gmail notification after screen on. I have whitelisted gmail app and google play services of course, even all other apps related to Google. Other apps I whitelist work just fine, like Whatsapp and WeChat. So is there any other apps I need to add to whitelist to make gcm work? Or the aggressive doze mode has something wrong with it?
I'm using samsung s6 edge, marshmallow with xposed, and greenify in boost mode. Before updating to version 2.9, everything was fine.
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and @price31
Google has not set the notifications from the Gmail app as priority, the logic being that instant messaging has more urgency than emails. Whether you like it or not, I think that you will not get Gmail notifications during Doze.
It may be true, but this issue only happens when I enable "aggressive doze" mode in Greenify. I can still receive gmail notification even if I leave my phone there for hours (when it is in doze).
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Google has not set the notifications from the Gmail app as priority, the logic being that instant messaging has more urgency than emails. Whether you like it or not, I think that you will not get Gmail notifications during Doze.
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It may be true, but this issue only happens when I enable "aggressive doze" mode in Greenify. I can still receive gmail notification even if I leave my phone there for hours (when it is in doze).
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May be the maintenance windows in Doze are only a few minutes apart whereas in AD, they are a few hours apart.
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May be the maintenance windows in Doze are only a few minutes apart whereas in AD, they are a few hours apart.
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Aggressive Doze effectively doubles the starting interval between maintenance windows, which should be one hour (in AD) if I remember correctly.
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As always, you can enable the doze debug notification to figure the correlation between doze and the unexpected behaviors. It works for both stock doze and Aggressive Doze.
Very similar configuration (Samsung s6, stock marshmallow with root, xposed, and greenify beta in boost mode) and same issue as TE here:
Gmail notifications are coming in only approximately once per hour with "aggressive doze" on after the device falls in "doze idling"/ "doze idle mode", so the time frame mentioned by @oasisfeng in post #7 appears to be correct. As soon as I completely disabele aggressive doze, all mails come in immediately as expected (stock doze not tested). What I did to resolve the issue (to no avail):
Gmail ist whitelisted in the battery section
Gmail is not set up for greenifying
Even GCM push for greenified apps is enabled
Mobile/wifi heartbeat is set to 6/5 minutes with PNF
Is there really nothing else we could do? Is it really as mentioned by @tnsmani, that Google mails will come in never (or only once per hour) during doze? I am asking because not too many other people appear to report this issue so the issue might also be related to some particularities of Samsung phones.
killerm said:
Very similar configuration (Samsung s6, stock marshmallow with root, xposed, and greenify beta in boost mode) and same issue as TE here:
Gmail notifications are coming in only approximately once per hour with "aggressive doze" on after the device falls in "doze idling"/ "doze idle mode", so the time frame mentioned by @oasisfeng in post #7 appears to be correct. As soon as I completely disabele aggressive doze, all mails come in immediately as expected (stock doze not tested). What I did to resolve the issue (to no avail):
Gmail ist whitelisted in the battery section
Gmail is not set up for greenifying
Even GCM push for greenified apps is enabled
Mobile/wifi heartbeat is set to 6/5 minutes with PNF
Is there really nothing else we could do? Is it really as mentioned by @tnsmani, that Google mails will come in never (or only once per hour) during doze? I am asking because not too many other people appear to report this issue so the issue might also be related to some particularities of Samsung phones.
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What I said comes from here: https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/concept-options
It says
"High priority. GCM attempts to deliver high priority messages immediately, allowing the GCM service to wake a sleeping device when possible and open a network connection to your app server. Apps with instant messaging, chat, or voice call alerts, for example, generally need to open a network connection and make sure GCM delivers the message to the device without delay. Set high priority only if the message is time-critical and requires the user’s immediate interaction, and beware that setting your messages to high priority contributes more to battery drain compared to normal priority messages.
Normal priority. This is the default priority for message delivery. Normal priority messages won't open network connections on a sleeping device, and their delivery may be delayed to conserve battery. For less time-sensitive messages, such as notifications of new email or other data to sync, choose normal delivery priority."
@tnsmani
Darn. Then, of course, we must expect that GMail will stick to Google's own GCM/priority policy. And it is obvious that stock doze will lead to the same GMail issue as Greenify's aggressive doze
New idea: It would already help if I could wake up the device when it has been idling for 20 minutes or so. I would then receive all e-mail notifications at least every 20 minutes. Greenify provides an action to wake up the device for Tasker. Is there any chance to identify the device's current doze state with tasker so that I could start a timer or set a calendar event (less energy intensive) when the device goes into doze mode? Unfortunately, even Tasker appears not to be realiable if the device is idling, unless Tasker's option "reliable alarms" is turned on (http://bit.ly/2cfvAaZ, http://bit.ly/2cfx4lo). This option, however, apparently prevents the device from entering any kind of doze state and thus makes all efforts to save battery with doze mode quite useless.
So if I need reliable notifications when E-Mails are coming in, I could (simply) set tasker to "reliable alarms". But in this case, the device will never enter any kind of doze mode. :-/
Is there any other option you can think of?
Best regards
Mick
Ok, I am not the first one with the idea to abuse tasker's "reliable alarm" option in order to disable doze...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...g_tasker_on_marshmallow_its_reliable/.compact
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Hi!
after some research i realised that SolMail is an email client with gcm feature (i use it with yahoo)
is there any other mail apk able to notify over GCM?
i'm testing SolMail in this days and notifications are a bit random (i set to 3 mins the update time and put the app in white list of aggressive doze)
can be useful to reduce heartbeat?
thanks in advance.
maserati1972 said:
Hi!
after some research i realised that SolMail is an email client with gcm feature (i use it with yahoo)
is there any other mail apk able to notify over GCM?
i'm testing SolMail in this days and notifications are a bit random (i set to 3 mins the update time and put the app in white list of aggressive doze)
can be useful to reduce heartbeat?
thanks in advance.
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Aquamail supports GCM. Mature, robust client with excellent support via user forum. Free and paid variants. Find it in the Play Store.
Believe K9 also supports GCM along with Google's native app. Also take a look at the free Microsoft Outlook client.
Thanks Davey126
this afternoon i tried many mail clients...i found this:
Outlook works on latest versions (previous don't connect), same for CloudMagic (now Newton Mail);
Both in last releases are super heavy for my little Droid4 (CM13);
so i'm experimenting now "myMail" that spit instant inbox notifications even greenifying the app...i'm very impressed!
on the other hand is over 90MB which wiredly figures on cached process and never on running ones...
is in your opinion Aquamail lighter and efficient with Greenify and notifications?
maybe i could try an older release?
Thanks!!!
maserati1972 said:
Thanks Davey126
this afternoon i tried many mail clients...i found this:
Outlook works on latest versions (previous don't connect), same for CloudMagic (now Newton Mail);
Both in last releases are super heavy for my little Droid4 (CM13);
so i'm experimenting now "myMail" that spit instant inbox notifications even greenifying the app...i'm very impressed!
on the other hand is over 90MB which wiredly figures on cached process and never on running ones...
is in your opinion Aquamail lighter and efficient with Greenify and notifications?
maybe i could try an older release?
Thanks!!!
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Aquamail satisfied all my needs and runs well on lower end devices. That said mail clients are like a box of chocolates. What is beautiful to one is distasteful to another. Try and profit (or not).

Questions on Doze and apps not working properly

I have a dual sim Sony Z5 running Android 6.0.1, but I am posting here because my question should be generic and not Sony-specific.
I have been doing lots of reading online, but cannot find the answer to these very basic questions:
When exactly does Doze kick in? Some sites say after 1 hour, some say after 3 or more, and Android’s website only says “after a period of time” (https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby.html ). Isn’t there any official documentation on this?
After a device enters Doze mode, how often does the system exit Doze and for how long? The previous link only says: Periodically, the system exits Doze for a brief time to let apps complete their deferred activities. During this maintenance window, the system runs all pending syncs, jobs, and alarms, and lets apps access the network. Again, isn’t there any official documentation on this?
Is there a way to monitor when the phone was in Doze and when in a maintenance windows
I want 3 apps to continue functioning normally even in Doze mode: whatsapp, k9 mail (on which I use imap idle for push email to my private email address), and Good Work (now owned by Blackberry) to connect to my company’s Exchange server and retrieve work emails etc. How can I achieve this? Is it documented anywhere if these apps issue the high priority GCM messages that Doze expects? I have excluded these apps from the battery optimization settings, yet I have been experiencing erratic behaviour (sometimes they sync, sometimes they don’t) when I leave the phone on a desk, connected to wifi (with keep wifi on during sleep set to always).
I am open to considering another email client which supports imap idle (as long as it doesn’t store my data and passwords on its servers (like Type App / Blue mail do), but I cannot replace Good Work with anything else as that is the only app which my employer allows to connect to its network.
Incidentally, I didn’t want Marshmallows on my phone, also because I believe Sony’s Stamina is more transparent and efficient (http://www.xda-developers.com/sonys-stamina-mode-did-it-first/ ); I was hoping my phone would ship with Lollipop, but unfortunately it came with Marshamllows. Ah, I cannot root because otherwise Good Work wouldn’t work.
This lack of transparency is a step in the wrong direction; Google is behaving like Apple in telling us not to worry our pretty little heads, but Google doesn't always know best! Apps which rely on push notifications may not work unless developers rewrite them, and there is no way to disable doze. it's crazy!
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I have found that the GSAM battery app tracks it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en_GB ( charts --> other).
I haven't found a way to monitor it from Android's system - not on my sony Z5, at least.
No one knows?
Anyway, this partial solution works for me: http://androidforums.com/threads/ma...x-is-preventing-doze-with-macrodroid.1058445/
It's about using MacroDroid to wake up the phone every 45 minutes, thus prveenting Doze mode from kicking in at all. Battery usage is acceptable (1% /hour with two push emails on)
No updates? Am I the only one who cares about push email not working?
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No updates? Am I the only one who cares about push email not working?
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Go to settings then go to power manager(in my phone) and click on battery optimization and select apps that you want to run in doze mode and select don't optimized.
I hope it solved your problem.
No, it does not. Android's official documentation explains that whitelisting is effectively useless, because 'other restrictions still apply' :
https://developer.android.com/train...doze-standby.html#support_for_other_use_cases
I have tried, and imap idle with k9 mail does not work when my Sony z5 is in doze, despite the whitelisting

Is there a way to get push email to work with Doze?

The doze mode introduced with Marshmallows breaks push email because email apps will no longer check for email when the phone is in doze. You can exempt apps from battery optimisation, but the exemption is only partial (read: useless). With Nougat it's even worse because Doze has become more aggressive.
My mailbox is on an imap server and I use imap idle for push (no, Apple fanboys, that's no battery drain).
AFAIK the only things which can wake a phone from Doze are phone call, sms messages, and high-priority google cloud messaging (or whatever they're called now) notifications.
Whatsapp, for example, relies on high-priority GCM notifications, and does wake phones up from Doze
There are some mail apps which rely on GCM notifications, but none which sends high-priority notifications - leaving aside the fact that I prefer imap idle because I don't like the idea of having a third-party server, which I somehow have to pay for, with access to my emails...
My question is: how on Earth are we supposed to get push email when the phone is in the doze? Or has google effectively decided that Android will no longer support real push email?
Rooting is not an option because the app I use to read my work email (Good by Blackberry) does not work on rooted devices.
Thanks!
PS Details of doze breaking push email are on another forum: http://androidforums.com/threads/mar...droid.1058445/
Anyone? yes, I know it's an old question, but it's still valid! Am I the only user for whom not having push email is an issue? I can live without getting instant notification of my private email, but work email is a different thing and I have had multiple situations where this has caused problems.
cdl2 said:
Anyone? yes, I know it's an old question, but it's still valid! Am I the only user for whom not having push email is an issue? I can live without getting instant notification of my private email, but work email is a different thing and I have had multiple situations where this has caused problems.
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Try typeapp maybe. Works for me without whitelisting it
Are you sure it works when the device is in Doze? I ask because Google documentation explains very clearly
https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby
that whitelisting is only a partial exemption, and that the one and only way to be sure the device receives notifications when in Doze is to use high-priority FCM notifications.
Last I checked, typemail was using normal-priority FCM. has this changed?
To test it, you can force the app into doze by using adb:
adb shell dumpsys deviceidle force-idle
now send an email to yourself from your PC or another phone. Do you get a notification? If you do, typeapp uses high-priority FCM. if you don't, it doesn't, and there seems to be no way around it, because Google has decided to kill push email without providing a ******* alternative!!!
To exit doze and reactivate the phone:
adb shell dumpsys deviceidle unforce
adb shell dumpsys battery reset
A counter-test is to send yourself an email when the phone is not in doze - you should receive an immediate notification.
When talking about Doze, the most common mistakes are:
not understanding that whitelisting is only a partial exemption
mistakenly thinking that you are getting notifications despite doze, when, in fact, either doze hasn't kicked in, or you are getting them in the windows allowed by Doze (no push)
By the way, my key problem is with work email; I can live with private email not being delivered immediately, but work email is a different story!
You might also want to look at these two links about privacy:
https://mobilsicher.de/security-des...d-other-email-apps-transmit-login-credentials
https://androidforums.com/threads/email-which-apps-keep-it-private.935578/
Never heard of any email app using any information in a bad way, especially big ones like typeapp. Even if info is sent to their servers they plainly say they don't store it and even if they do, they can't use it for anything without implicating themselves.
Also first link includes misspellings in the header lmao. I wouldn't trust everything you read, you'll end up in a bubble.
As far as notifications from typeapp, they come through relentlessly if not turned off, dunno if it's preventing the doze somehow but it works well on my quarks running RR Oreo. Try it and do your own tests
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Never heard of any email app using any information in a bad way, especially big ones like typeapp. Even if info is sent to their servers they plainly say they don't store it and even if they do, they can't use it for anything without implicating themselves.
Also first link includes misspellings in the header lmao. I wouldn't trust everything you read, you'll end up in a bubble.
As far as notifications from typeapp, they come through relentlessly if not turned off, dunno if it's preventing the doze somehow but it works well on my quarks running RR Oreo. Try it and do your own tests
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As for typeapp, what leaves me confused is that its documentation talks about whitelisting it in the battery settings. However, even though 99% of Android users fail to understand this, whitelisting is only a very partial exemption. You don’t need to whitelist Whatsapp in order to receive messages even while in Doze. Why? Because Whatsapp uses high-priority FCM notifications. Hence I suspect Typeapp does NOT use high-priority FCM. I have emailed them this question.
It’s very unfortunate that it’s now become very hard to get real push email; we have gone backwards since the early days of mobile devices! Also, Google forcing FCM down our throat means going back to a BIS/BES kind of solution, which was wildly criticised for being a single point of failure. But, most incredibly, AFAIK there is no email client that uses high-priority FCM, so Google is effectively saying: you can have push whatsapp but not push email! The crazy thing is that this was done because too many apps were misbehaving and connecting too often, not because there is anything wrong with push email – imap idle used to work brilliantly, without draining battery.
It has also become very hard to test for push in Doze: many manufacturers add their own app-killing optimisation tool, so the app must be whitelisted there, too. Also, it is never clear when a phone is in Doze, or if it is in a maintenance window: you may think you are getting emails, but you are only getting them because the phone is in a maintenance window, and the next email you might not see for 2 hours!
I have never heard of any email app using private data in a particular bad way, either, it’s just that the concept of giving access to my email to some server of some unknown company makes me uneasy. I don’t even use gmail for this reason, preferring to pay for my own email! The apps listed in my second link (k9 mail, aquamail etc) download mail from the server to the app and the developers of the app have no access whatsoever to my mail. For example, there have been cases of developers of email clients letting their employees read emails to “train the software”
https://www.cnet.com/news/third-party-gmail-apps-reportedly-let-employees-read-peoples-emails/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/02/third-party-email-apps-reading-user-emails/
I understand many people don’t care; these things are very subjective and I have zero interest in convincing anyone – I am just explaining why I’d rather avoid this kind of email clients, unless maybe it’s the one and only way to get real push with Android Doze.
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As for typeapp, what leaves me confused is that its documentation talks about whitelisting it in the battery settings. However, even though 99% of Android users fail to understand this, whitelisting is only a very partial exemption. You don’t need to whitelist Whatsapp in order to receive messages even while in Doze. Why? Because Whatsapp uses high-priority FCM notifications. Hence I suspect Typeapp does NOT use high-priority FCM. I have emailed them this question.
It’s very unfortunate that it’s now become very hard to get real push email; we have gone backwards since the early days of mobile devices! Also, Google forcing FCM down our throat means going back to a BIS/BES kind of solution, which was wildly criticised for being a single point of failure. But, most incredibly, AFAIK there is no email client that uses high-priority FCM, so Google is effectively saying: you can have push whatsapp but not push email! The crazy thing is that this was done because too many apps were misbehaving and connecting too often, not because there is anything wrong with push email – imap idle used to work brilliantly, without draining battery.
It has also become very hard to test for push in Doze: many manufacturers add their own app-killing optimisation tool, so the app must be whitelisted there, too. Also, it is never clear when a phone is in Doze, or if it is in a maintenance window: you may think you are getting emails, but you are only getting them because the phone is in a maintenance window, and the next email you might not see for 2 hours!
I have never heard of any email app using private data in a particular bad way, either, it’s just that the concept of giving access to my email to some server of some unknown company makes me uneasy. I don’t even use gmail for this reason, preferring to pay for my own email! The apps listed in my second link (k9 mail, aquamail etc) download mail from the server to the app and the developers of the app have no access whatsoever to my mail. For example, there have been cases of developers of email clients letting their employees read emails to “train the software”
https://www.cnet.com/news/third-party-gmail-apps-reportedly-let-employees-read-peoples-emails/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/02/third-party-email-apps-reading-user-emails/
I understand many people don’t care; these things are very subjective and I have zero interest in convincing anyone – I am just explaining why I’d rather avoid this kind of email clients, unless maybe it’s the one and only way to get real push with Android Doze.
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Dud... I'm not reading all that, lol
Why not try typeapp itself with a non important or dummy email and see. It could be something with my device or ROM causing it to come through but I think it may work for you.
Quick question: is it possible to get typeapp to retrieve mail from the inbox folder immediately (push), but to also retrieve mail from another folder every 4 hours or so? This is the setup I had with Aquamail and K9mail. I ask because I have a 'newsletter' folder where all the newsletters, notifications and non-urgent stuff gets filtered (server-side). I am testing typeapp but haven't found a way to do this.
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Quick question: is it possible to get typeapp to retrieve mail from the inbox folder immediately (push), but to also retrieve mail from another folder every 4 hours or so? This is the setup I had with Aquamail and K9mail. I ask because I have a 'newsletter' folder where all the newsletters, notifications and non-urgent stuff gets filtered (server-side). I am testing typeapp but haven't found a way to do this.
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Not sure abt other folders. I know you can set it up that way for different e-mails. Maybe there's a way to make a rule for such a thing. If I discover a way I will post here
Edit- does not appear to be a way to do this using typeapp alone. Maybe another email program could be in fetch mode on that folder and you could set typeapp to push and notifications enabled for certain contacts or something of the like.
You could always contact support and ask if it could be done or put in a feature request. That is a good idea and would be useful to many
Another idea: depending on the email client you use, you may be able to set up a rule to forward those emails you want in fetch mode to a dummy email, then set that email in fetch mode within typeapp
Nothing special about TypeApp in terms of quick notifications when in Doze. I left my phone unattended for 20 minutes then sent a test email and it took over 40 minutes to get the notification. Samsung Email got it first at 28 minutes and BlueMail / TypeApp got it around 42 minutes. This is without touching the phone. This is with Batttery Optimization OFF, Adaptive Battery OFF, Put unused apps to Sleep OFF. Note 10+ Factory Unlocked Android 11 One UI 3.1
Edison Mail sends INSTANT notifications even if your phone's been sleeping for hours, but I hate their GUI, let alone their privacy policy.
Will this ADB command stick after reboot?
Code:
adb shell dumpsys deviceidle unforce

Native CalDAV/CardDAV support?

Lately I have been wondering why Android still does not have native support for CalDAV & CardDAV, when both have been the de-facto open standard for contacts and calendar sync for years. Is there no native support because Google wants it to make it more difficult to use alternatives to their services? (In my case: NextCloud/ownCloud, which I can add right away even to an old Iphone, but still do not work with android out of the box without something like DAVDroid) Or are there plans to integrate it into future versions?
What's the problem with installing an app? Android has a native API for contacts and calendars, so I guess they can't be accused of making it "difficult". They probably just don't want to make it "too easy".
One could also ask why 99,9% of app developers don't support APK distribution but require users to use GApps & Play Store …
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What's the problem with installing an app? …
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Which is not answering my question whether it is planned to have native support for CalDAV/CardDAV.
CardDAV / CalDAV are open standards for data exchange just like IMAP, NTP, SMTP and so on. It would be only natural for android to support them

How To Guide More than 5 App Notifications

Little Trick!
In order to receive more notifications than the 5 you set yourself, you have the option of loading the Blackberry Hub+ and the associated services from the PlayStore. You can manage many accounts there. works perfectlyfor me!
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Little Trick!
In order to receive more notifications than the 5 you set yourself, you have the option of loading the Blackberry Hub+ and the associated services from the PlayStore. You can manage many accounts there. works perfectlyfor me!
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Great Idea!
Find N77 said:
Little Trick!
In order to receive more notifications than the 5 you set yourself, you have the option of loading the Blackberry Hub+ and the associated services from the PlayStore. You can manage many accounts there. works perfectlyfor me!
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Isn't it just a notification 'watcher'? Those apps would still need to show notifications to appear in the Blackberry Hub+ inbox???
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Isn't it just a notification 'watcher'? Those apps would still need to show notifications to appear in the Blackberry Hub+ inbox??
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No, the hub accesses the accounts directly, not the system.
Is like your mail program that accesses your mail account.
Look on Screenshot, it is Not the Gmail icon at the top.
I can't see a way to configure WhatsApp for example - surely it requires me to approve access or hook it up somehow?
I must look and test it, the N is not my daily driver.
WA is at the time on iPhone.....
Most of the chat apps (WhatsApp, Line...) Have auto-start set by default (without being one of the 5 custom auto-start apps), and therefore notifications will show, and be 'captured' by the Blackberry Hub. But for example, I just added Google Chat, which DOESN'T have auto-start set, and it doesn't show in Blackberry Hub, because there are no notifications...
I'm not sure I like the solution or workaround of yet another app to deal with notifications that should be a standard solution, aka OS and base UI API, from Google AndroidOS itself.
I'm fully aware of BlackBerry and its history, yet how up to date is this BlackBerry Hub and what's the official word from BlackBerry update future updates? If nothing official this would be a temporary solution.
Is Oppo taking user feedback on all channels (aka official support forums, support email/phone, twitter, etc)? They already have a global 'Ambassador' program to help launch and sales of the Find N2 Flip.
Supa_Fly said:
I'm not sure I like the solution or workaround of yet another app to deal with notifications that should be a standard solution, aka OS and base UI API, from Google AndroidOS itself.
I'm fully aware of BlackBerry and its history, yet how up to date is this BlackBerry Hub and what's the official word from BlackBerry update future updates? If nothing official this would be a temporary solution.
Is Oppo taking user feedback on all channels (aka official support forums, support email/phone, twitter, etc)? They already have a global 'Ambassador' program to help launch and sales of the Find N2 Flip.
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CN ROM have limitations because Chinese app developers are garbage that stuffs apps full of offer notifications auto start and push for more monetization.. if u seen the china app market, it's 90% junk apps there that ask for every single permission possible to harvest ur data and sell openly to the big firms..
I tried this on my Find N2 (fold) no luck in getting other apps configured to receive notifications - the only one I could get to work was GMAIL..
Anyone else have any luck in getting other apps working using the Blackberry HUB such as Facebook etc?
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