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Honor 5x is reaching its two year mark, I was curious to know what people thought of the Huawei's performance in regards to updates? In a blog post on the Huawei site, Huawei promises to provide feature update for 2 years from release and then provide security update for a unspecified amount of time.
For their feature upgrades, it appears that they upgrade to Mashmallow, but then failed to update to Nougat because Google failed to support their device's upgrade to Nougat (!?).
So how well have Huawei performed compare to their competitors? Based on info on the T-mobile website, it would appear that most phone get quarterly updates for roughly 3 years.
Paul
paul.siu said:
Honor 5x is reaching its two year mark, I was curious to know what people thought of the Huawei's performance in regards to updates? In a blog post on the Huawei site, Huawei promises to provide feature update for 2 years from release and then provide security update for a unspecified amount of time.
For their feature upgrades, it appears that they upgrade to Mashmallow, but then failed to update to Nougat because Google failed to support their device's upgrade to Nougat (!?).
So how well have Huawei performed compare to their competitors? Based on info on the T-mobile website, it would appear that most phone get quarterly updates for roughly 3 years.
Paul
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Some variants had no updates for more than 6 months. If I'm not wrong, some even haven't received Marshmallow yet. My L21 (EU) received september patch in november, and here, now it's march of 2017, nothing. One not-working january update (OTA not available, firmware downloaded via FF can't be installed - fails at random percentage, and it's not available as full image) and that's it.
Still, that's much better than my previous experience with LG (phone came with 4.1.2, got only one, buggy update - 4.4.2 a year later, and that was the end of the line, Lollipop came only for Korean variant; bootloader not unlockable, device basically running on hacks (sooo many unnecessary source changes by LG... and device was nearly 3x more the price I paid for L21).
Nougat update wasn't provided because they pushed out Honor 6X on their home-brewed chipset, so I guess 5X is a collateral damage with it's snapdragon requiring Huawei to obtain newer blobs. I guess that's how stuff work.
Luckily, we have good community
i'm about to buy redmi note 4 global version for eu market, snapdragon 625 processor, 4g lte 800mhz support, after contacting customer support, they said that it will come with android 6.0 and official global MIUI 8, they also said that it will automatically update to android 7.0 and MIUI 9, from what I know this phone got an update to android 7.0 but never heard that global stable, bugs free MIUI 9 was released for this model (it's going to be released soon but not yet as far as I'm aware )
so how is it in reality ?
Maybe they intend that it will be updated to MIUI 9 / Android 7 when it will be released in the near future.
Consider also that usually resellers aren't very accurate in details or specific informations on what they sell. Even the official support from manufacturers don't know every detail about their products...
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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They have weekly ROM updates for those who want to opt-in to the developer builds.
Stable builds are at their own discretion.
They're not amazing, but better than many.
Security updates is another story. They're a bit slow with them, though I think that varies per device (Redmi is budget so gets low priority).
Poco is a new brand trying to go global though, so hopefully it's better than other devices (not sure how security updates are on the flagship Mi series)
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
rahulkamma14 said:
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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I assume he's asking about *Xiaomi* updates, the official ROM. Of course you can just install custom ROM's to get latest updates unofficially - but that makes the question moot.
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Beta ROM updates are very fast both security n OS updates.
Stable updates within the same OS version are faster too. But OS upgrade need a bit waiting time as OS integrating to MIUI takes time.
Poco I expect faster updates due to treble support.
FYI:
Mix 2S of xiaomi already has Android 9 beta update.
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
I have used Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3/4/5, Redmi 3S/prime and only Redmi 2 and Redmi Note 3 as my daily driver.
Those things taught the following:
Don't except updates from Xiaomi, not even security patches, although they have started providing patches on Note series but they are always late, so patches may arrive but not when you expect them.
You may not get the latest features even if you have the latest android version on your MIUI, why? because Xiaomi wants to provide same features to all the phones so that phones running on Kitkat will have the same feature as phone running on Oreo, this makes their software development easy, that means that the feature that you are using doesn't have native support and may be buggy and battery hogging.
There are two channels in MIUI - Beta Channel and StableChannel. Stable channel update is provided every 4-5 months or whenever they feel like or to fix a very important bug. Beta channel was previously bimonthly but I have heard that now, it's changed. Due to this, they don't fix bugs properly and instead introduce more bugs in the system
Their update size are generally 500MB-1.5GB but the fixes are things like: Calender icon changed, Button of some subforum in MIUI forum app changed, New Ringtones and every useless things, then in the end *Bug Fixes* but they don't mention which one. Out of every 10 beta updates only 1 or 2 updates are useful while others are just formality.
Now, note this, other companies give update to keep your phone running for longer amount of time. Xiaomi thinks different, they will wreck your device with every update they provide.
When I had Redmi Note 3, Beta channel was more better and more stable than the Stable channel, I am not lying go check the forums.
There is no major change in MIUI 7-9 the first major change I saw was MIUI6 - MIUI 7 after that all changes were just useless and they everytime just change notification shade style.
MIUI 10 - Notification shade now looks like a copy of iPhone and it's really very cheap act by Xiaomi, although their App switcher is somewhat cool.
Custom ROM:
Xiaomi phones works best with stock android and indeed has the best development support. But there are few catches.
Not all features work in custom ROM, you will have to leave one or two things if you want to use custom ROM.
The famous and best developers will not port VOLTE if their cell providers don't provide it
Camera (on Xiaomi phones) doesn't works well on custom ROMS.
Xiaomi does provide kernel but they don't provide a lot of proprietary codes and binaries that ensures smooth functioning of phones.
Don't buy the phone if you want to get updates unless it's Chinese, they do care about Chinese people unlike their global counterpart, or those people who develop global roms are arseheads.
All the above points can be confirmed on MIUI forums and XDA, if anyone says that even one of the point(s) is wrong, he is probably new in Xiaomi's world.
Redmi is the cheap line and they get late updates and bugs are not fixed properly. Mi is the expensive line of Xiaomi so they get proper update in first few months and after that they are also neglected. Since Poco is also a cheap but is a flagship, they will get good number of updates and fixes for few months then they will announce another phone and Poco will be neglected, and people who are saying that Poco has a different team may be wrong, I don't think Xioami will divide the team because internally it uses the same MIUI as others only launcher is different. For world Poco is a brand, for Xiaomi it's yet another phone.
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
Thanks everyone for the info. That gives me a good idea.
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very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
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Aye Aye Kurwa :laugh:
you forgot p90
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Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
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Huh? You say it sucks but your Mi 3 got two major updates. How does that suck?
As for tablet, well it's a tablet. Android tablets were always poor selling and are now completely dead anyway (Chrome OS tablets are the future), can't compare phones to tablets.
Biggest drawback of Vivo mobile devices are its lack of system (Android and Funtouch bug fixes) and security updates OTA delivery compare to other brands (Realme, MI, Samsung,..)
Is there anything we can do to **PUSH** Vivo to make them accountable to provide better and faster software updates????
Due to this Vivo devices gets out dated too soon in market... And you end up looking for another brand device.
Unfortunately, Vivo does not realise this hampers there own brand value.
Thia was one of the biggest reason I moved away / refrain buying Huawei and specially Lenovo, LG, Motorola phones as all of them had very poor after sale software update Frequency..
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Biggest drawback of Vivo mobile devices are its lack of system (Android and Funtouch bug fixes) and security updates OTA delivery compare to other brands (Realme, MI, Samsung,..)
Is there anything we can do to **PUSH** Vivo to make them accountable to provide better and faster software updates????
Due to this Vivo devices gets out dated too soon in market... And you end up looking for another brand device.
Unfortunately, Vivo does not realise this hampers there own brand value.
Thia was one of the biggest reason I moved away / refrain buying Huawei and specially Lenovo, LG, Motorola phones as all of them had very poor after sale software update Frequency..
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I did some more research and seems Funtouch has improved a lot in terms of experience and ease of usage. Still require some quirks clean-up
However, X50 and X50 pro updates were very slow
So, if you buy Vivo's latest and greatest phone running on Funtouch or Android 11 there is no guarantee you will get Android 12 ( or on time). I couldn't find, on Vivo official site update release plan list anywhere.
Also what is the story of Origin OS ?? How Vivo's development team focusing on improving Funtouch or Origin OS??
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I did some more research and seems Funtouch has improved a lot in terms of experience and ease of usage. Still require some quirks clean-up
However, X50 and X50 pro updates were very slow
So, if you buy Vivo's latest and greatest phone running on Funtouch or Android 11 there is no guarantee you will get Android 12 ( or on time). I couldn't find, on Vivo official site update release plan list anywhere.
Also what is the story of Origin OS ?? How Vivo's development team focusing on improving Funtouch or Origin OS??
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Funtouch is developed for non Chinese market (stock based)
OriginOS is only for chinese devices
Funtouch global is more updated then chinese one. X51 (european version of X50 Pro) is on Android 11 from december and has March patches
Tab S6 Lite is on the list.. though haven't seen our beloved unit announced.
Anyone know anything?
Usually i am not that fussed as there is always Custom ROMs available to keep it up to date.. Though custom ROMS don't seem very common for this device!
Android Authority says yes!
Here's every Samsung device eligible for four major Android updates
Samsung has listed all the Galaxy devices eligible for four years of Android OS updates, including flagships, tablets, foldables, and more.
www.androidauthority.com