Possible to roll back from MIUI 10 to Mokee? - Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Questions & Answers

Haven't actually got the device yet, but i'd like to try out MIUI 10 EU. If i don't like it, can i flash Mokee back on the device, or is it not possible after MIUI 9 past v.9.6?
Cheers

you can go back to MoKee coz its AOSP based, not MIUI....
beside, this tablet only got ARB on MIUI 10 but dormant (Anti: 1 - dormant).
I just downgraded from MIUI 10 to MIUI 9 stable without problem (make sure you wipe data).

Crescendo Xenomorph said:
you can go back to MoKee coz its AOSP based, not MIUI....
beside, this tablet only got ARB on MIUI 10 but dormant (Anti: 1 - dormant).
I just downgraded from MIUI 10 to MIUI 9 stable without problem (make sure you wipe data).
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Ok, you lost me! What's ARB!?

Wasnt ARB the reason why you even made this thread, or why did you think you cannot go back to Mokee after MIUI10?
ARB = ANTI ROLL BACK = no downgrades allowed anymore.

Ah, ARB, I see! Sorry for the dumb ass moment. Thanks!

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[ROM] Mi 8 Miui 10 Global Beta 8.11.1 Android Pie

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Miui 10 8.11.1 Android Pie: http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.11.1/miui_MI8Global_8.11.1_ed2903c393_9.0.zip
What's the changelog?
Sent from my MI 8 using Tapatalk
Maybe it has ARB, so keep eyes opens (on xiaomi.eu the new roms based on android 9 are marked with “Anti Roll Back” )
Looks like its still android 8.1 by the filename.
I flashed this. This is also global beta, but the closed nightly one. I am unsure of the changelog (no permission)
I've read some comments saying the number at the end of the ROM file represents the Android version (It's still 8.x Oreo).
miui_MI8Global_8.9.4_5162352d78_8.1.zip
According to the mi forums there are just some bug fixes. Nothing new at all. The software developers of Xiaomi are seriously a joke. There's still no official stable even after three months after release of their allegedly flagship that got unveiled with MIUI 10. The Chinese and global version differs in features (Chinese shows WhatsApp notifications in the Always On screen for example), the cheap ass Mi8se got miui10 already, but the flagship doesn't, ok Google never worked in any Rom so far and not to forget the whole discussion about bootloader's or GPS. It's a ridiculous failure so far in my opinion
Global Beta 8.9.6 is available via updater
martin192 said:
Global Beta 8.9.6 is available via updater
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Downloading atm [emoji6]
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Install ok, all is working [emoji6][emoji106][emoji123]
Envoyé de mon MI 8 en utilisant Tapatalk
I need tonwait 720 hours to unlock. Is it ok to flash it via updatet or better to wait for the fastboot/unlocked bl?
just flash via updater like me. just make sure u have a global version mi 8.
Is it really based on Android 9.0?
It's not, how do you get that idea? Funny thing is, that the roms get worse with every update IMHO. The best working so far was actually 8.8.7. With 8.8.21 some of the gestures stopped working and the AOD flashed white before activating, additionally it became slow and laggy after some time without reboot. The AOD is fixed now, gestures still doesn't fully work, same goes for "ok Google". Why the Chinese version supported WhatsApp notifications in the AOD and the global doesn't is another oddity. I'm not impressed.
Fastboot link: http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.6/dipper_global_images_8.9.6_20180906.0000.00_8.1_global_f75c6cea8d.tgz
Will data be erased if I update from updater? I am still on latest global stable.
Caution: this rom has ARB - Anti Roll Back
Flash-User said:
Caution: this rom has ARB - Anti Roll Back
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are u sure? can u provide photo?
It's android 9 to have anti-roll back, we are still on 8.1 there. Should HAVE NOT the ARB.
Flash-User said:
Caution: this rom has ARB - Anti Roll Back
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Its still 8.1, are you sure?
Global 8.9.6 is still Oreo. To be exact: 8.1.0 OPM 171019.026 Tapping 8.1.0 shows Oreo cookie. Hope that answers.

How does anti-rollback for Xiaomi phones work?

Hey,
I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and I'm very concerned about MIUI latest "feature" - anti-rollback. I read this article, but I still don't understand completly how is anti-rollback gonna affect my phone.
Is it only MIUI thing or even with custom ROMs I won't be able to flash earlier version? Let's say I already have newest version of MIUI based on Android 9 so anti-rollback is present. Can I install, let's say LineageOS 15 which is Android 8.1? And can I switch between let's say LOS 15 and LOS 16 as much as I want? And... what if one day Android 9.1 is released and custom ROM is made, if I install it, does it mean I can't flash even the most recent version of MIUI until it would be based on 9.1 either? Cause it would detect that I had newer version and wouldn't let me flash it, right?
So the question is, I guess, does only MIUI check anti-rollback index before flashing or MIUI just activates this "feature" in my phone and then it's embeded somewhere deep and I'll never be able to go back again even with custom ROM? My thinking is... if MIUI version XY brings support for ARB it means, that earlier version, let's say XY - 1 doesn't have that support and therefore it can't check and know that it's earlier version, right? So that check has to be burnt into phone for good and it is gonna permanently affect my phone even without MIUI, possibly restrict flashing even for custom ROMs.
But I'm no expert, so I would like to know from someone who understands details of it.
Thanks!

Rollback from MIUI Dev 8.9.20 to stable V10.0.2.0.OEAMIFH locked BL

Hi there
Is it possible to flash MIUI V10.0.2.0.OEAMIFH over an existing Dev 8.9.20? If I try via the Recovery/updater than it says it's not possible, should use MiFlash.
Am I right that MIUI V10.0.2.0.0 is Andoid 8 based and therefore Android Auto is broken because of the notch?
I'm a little bit concerend about Anti Rollback Protection as 8.9.20 does have it.
Thanks for the answers.
Sebastian
Hi
If you're unlocked ARB is not a problem.
You must flash twrp first ans try the miui.eu release.
Last month i flash the miui 10 but the battery drain is important. I flash the global stable release miui 9 found on the xioami.eu and flash it with twrp. I got a bootloop. The solution is to flash the same version or newest. Attention this Time I've got the 18.10.12 release...
So you must try at your risk
Good luck
sthoeft said:
Hi there
Is it possible to flash MIUI V10.0.2.0.OEAMIFH over an existing Dev 8.9.20? If I try via the Recovery/updater than it says it's not possible, should use MiFlash.
Am I right that MIUI V10.0.2.0.0 is Andoid 8 based and therefore Android Auto is broken because of the notch?
I'm a little bit concerend about Anti Rollback Protection as 8.9.20 does have it.
Thanks for the answers.
Sebastian
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You can come back normally.
It takes a lot of time in miflash. You have to wait.
I was coming back dev Miui EU> Global 10.0.2.0

Most Stable official Rom?

I recently bought Mi note 10 lite and its on miui 11 right now. Since I won't be able to roll back the firmware I wanted to ask which one should I use to update. Should I update to lates official rom from ota? Is there any complaints about the updates?
TheMadcapl said:
I recently bought Mi note 10 lite and its on miui 11 right now. Since I won't be able to roll back the firmware I wanted to ask which one should I use to update. Should I update to lates official rom from ota? Is there any complaints about the updates?
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Wait until MIUI 12.5 as MIUI 12.0, 12.1 and 12.2 drains battery crazy.
jjgvv said:
Wait until MIUI 12.5 as MIUI 12.0, 12.1 and 12.2 drains battery crazy.
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how do we know that 12.5 will battery optimized?
TheMadcapl said:
I recently bought Mi note 10 lite and its on miui 11 right now. Since I won't be able to roll back the firmware I wanted to ask which one should I use to update. Should I update to lates official rom from ota? Is there any complaints about the updates?
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If it can be reversed, at least I did it from Android 11 (miui 12.1.1), I was in global miui 12.0.3 and also tried miui eu, however I ended up going back to the factory ROM.
The best ROM for the mi note 10 Lite is miui 11.0.8 in performance and battery.
regards
leinadagisiaol said:
If it can be reversed, at least I did it from Android 11 (miui 12.1.1), I was in global miui 12.0.3 and also tried miui eu, however I ended up going back to the factory ROM.
The best ROM for the mi note 10 Lite is miui 11.0.8 in performance and battery.
regards
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This can be concluded as 'Do not update.'
The main concern now is about the old security patch, which may risk the data in the device from hacking. An alternative attempt to fix security problems is to install trusty ( I mean famous and good rated) antimalware app(s), which may take a little bit of storage and use a little bit of battery.
AOSP or debloated roms can be also nice battery-wise and speed-wise, but there are stability concerns, bugs and can also affect security.
jjgvv said:
This can be concluded as 'Do not update.'
The main concern now is about the old security patch, which may risk the data in the device from hacking. An alternative attempt to fix security problems is to install trusty ( I mean famous and good rated) antimalware app(s), which may take a little bit of storage and use a little bit of battery.
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The issue of security is relative in the devices because it will depend on the type of use you give it, personally I still do not think there is a stable and secure ROM better than Miui 11.0.8 (at the moment).
As I discussed earlier, I have tested all the official ROMs on this device and none will be better in fluidity and battery management than the factory ROM.
We'll see what happens to miui 12.5, but for now I'm staying where I am.
jjgvv said:
This can be concluded as 'Do not update.'
The main concern now is about the old security patch, which may risk the data in the device from hacking. An alternative attempt to fix security problems is to install trusty ( I mean famous and good rated) antimalware app(s), which may take a little bit of storage and use a little bit of battery.
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You are absolutely right, it is better to wait a few months while we see how the official and custom ROMs evolve because at the moment there is nothing stable.
Greetings.
leinadagisiaol said:
You are absolutely right, it is better to wait a few months while we see how the official and custom ROMs evolve because at the moment there is nothing stable.
Greetings.
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It may be worth mentioning that it is rumored that MIUI 12.5 is fluid but battery is still kind of, bad. The MIUI 12.5 is still in alpha state (China devloper version) though, hope that the battery drain is fixed in the final stable build.
We might need to wait for MIUI 13 and probably battery life will get better...
leinadagisiaol said:
The issue of security is relative in the devices because it will depend on the type of use you give it, personally I still do not think there is a stable and secure ROM better than Miui 11.0.8 (at the moment).
As I discussed earlier, I have tested all the official ROMs on this device and none will be better in fluidity and battery management than the factory ROM.
We'll see what happens to miui 12.5, but for now I'm staying where I am.
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Unfortunately, because of warranty concerns, I don't want to unlock BL. This breaks the warranty. Hence I dont have chance roll back.
Right now my rom is 11.0.4 and I found a problem where I am not able to use slow motion recording. Camera just stops responding.
TheMadcapl said:
Unfortunately, because of warranty concerns, I don't want to unlock BL. This breaks the warranty. Hence I dont have chance roll back.
Right now my rom is 11.0.4 and I found a problem where I am not able to use slow motion recording. Camera just stops responding.
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Hello friend ..
I found the performance and battery problems in the global versions 12.0.3 and 12.1.1, in the same way in the custom ROM of miui.eu 12.0.3.
I understand that Xiaomi does not remove the warranty for unlocking the bootloader, but still, I think you can try updating to the version of miui 11.0.8 because it runs very smoothly for me and is the best.
Regards.
leinadagisiaol said:
Hello friend ..
I found the performance and battery problems in the global versions 12.0.3 and 12.1.1, in the same way in the custom ROM of miui.eu 12.0.3.
I understand that Xiaomi does not remove the warranty for unlocking the bootloader, but still, I think you can try updating to the version of miui 11.0.8 because it runs very smoothly for me and is the best.
Regards.
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flash in updater by manual update? link for.11.0.8 zip pls?
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flash in updater by manual update? link for.11.0.8 zip pls?
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Por supuesto
Link: https://xiaomifirmware.com/download/15842/
Download the Zip and move it to the downloaded_rom folder.
Then go to settings, About the Phone, then update system and on the miui 11 logo, touch several times to activate the advanced installation options.
Go to the 3 points on the top right and select package to update. Select the package saved in the downloaded_rom folder.
The download link is from miui 11.0.8 global, if you need the miui EEA tell me.
leinadagisiaol said:
Hello friend ..
I found the performance and battery problems in the global versions 12.0.3 and 12.1.1, in the same way in the custom ROM of miui.eu 12.0.3.
I understand that Xiaomi does not remove the warranty for unlocking the bootloader, but still, I think you can try updating to the version of miui 11.0.8 because it runs very smoothly for me and is the best.
Regards.
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Although Xiaomi does ot care about BL, distributor in my country does. So in my case I wont unlock until warranty time is over.

Question Restore stock eea from from .eu

Hello, weeks ago I was on stock miui 13 eea rom. Then I unlocked the bootloader and flashed a xiaomi.eu miui 12 rom. The flash was simply done by rebooting in fastboot and running a .bat.
Can anyone explain me how to go back to miui 13 eea stock?
First, get a stock firmware from here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/renoir/ and use a fastboot way.
PS. Atention to download a fastboot version.
arthem044 said:
Hello, weeks ago I was on stock miui 13 eea rom. Then I unlocked the bootloader and flashed a xiaomi.eu miui 12 rom. The flash was simply done by rebooting in fastboot and running a .bat.
Can anyone explain me how to go back to miui 13 eea stock?
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Due to various tweaks I recommend also trying the xiaomi.eu miui 13(!) as I did, while...
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I am waiting patiently for an adaptation of CR-Droid for our device (renoir).
Has anyone seen an maybe unofficial version somewhere?
I am a sucker for CR since over a year now on Mi Mix 2s (discontinued).
Has anyone an explaination, why the 4G-Version is supported by more Custom Roms than the 5G-Version?
Is it not attractive enough, hardware-wise?
mcschweg said:
Due to various tweaks I recommend also trying the xiaomi.eu miui 13(!) as I did, while...
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I am waiting patiently for an adaptation of CR-Droid for our device (renoir).
Has anyone seen an maybe unofficial version somewhere?
I am a sucker for CR since over a year now on Mi Mix 2s (discontinued).
Has anyone an explaination, why the 4G-Version is supported by more Custom Roms than the 5G-Version?
Is it not attractive enough, hardware-wise?
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crDroid 8.4 GSI works flawless in renoir, except for battery consumption ("fashion" features has a cost) and safetynet.
Oh, that sweet sound! So is renoir project treble compatible? I know, i is an A/B-system.
I was relying on the official builds in the past, but I was already planning to go a different way, if there is no official maintainer for a renoir build.
Is there a best option for downloading the crdroid 8.4 GSI?
TWRP is running fine already.
I really appreciate your hint and help on this, thank you @rcavalcanti !

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