True 15w wireless charging - Huawei Mate 20 Pro Accessories

Hoping to get my Mate 20 Pro on Friday. Looking for suggestions on any wireless charging pads / stands that are able to fully utilise the Mate 20 Pro's 15w wireless charging ability. Any ideas?

Just the orginal Huawei wirless charge pad

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Des...40371130&sr=8-6&keywords=15w+wireless+charger

Just search 15W Qi wireless charger on ebay? There's quite a few...

Nicelysedated said:
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Des...40371130&sr=8-6&keywords=15w+wireless+charger
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are indeed several non-Huawei wireless chargers that claim 15W max output, but I haven't seen any that verify this claim with specifications other than in their seller's verbiage (no images of package). Time will tell if they actually can do this for the Mate 20 Pro. Hopefully someone will take one for the Team and try it out then post a screenshot of the charge.

codified_canon said:
There are indeed several non-Huawei wireless chargers that claim 15W max output, but I haven't seen any that verify this claim with specifications other than in their seller's verbiage (no images of package). Time will tell if they actually can do this for the Mate 20 Pro. Hopefully someone will take one for the Team and try it out then post a screenshot of the charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've ordered one from Amazon due to come in tomorrow at work. Will test and let you know.
Unsure how I'l figure out its 15W as opposed to 10 or 7.5W?

Look on Google with : Huawei CP 60
This is reference of new Huawei wireless charger 15w.
In France, price is about 60€ : https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00259011.html
I find it on german website that ship in Europe : https://www.meintrendyhandy.de/shop/huawei-supercharge-qi-schnellladegerat-234124p.html

Please do
HellraiserNZ said:
I've ordered one from Amazon due to come in tomorrow at work. Will test and let you know.
Unsure how I'l figure out its 15W as opposed to 10 or 7.5W?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome, thanks for taking the plunge. Hope to hear good news.
There's a site that describes USB hardware, but that isn't really practical.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/07/accurately-measure-understand-smartphones-charging-speed/
And not sure about how valid results are, but an app on the Playstore called "Ampere" has decent ratings.

https://www.aliexpress.com/af/Nillk...eless+Charger&initiative_id=SB_20181111140116
Says that work with mate 20 pro

Anyone got any recommendations for a wireless charger. Don't really want to fork out £60.00 for the official. Been looking on ebay/amazon and see some are about £15-£20 and getting some decent reviews. It is just to sit on bed side table for charging though the night.

memphisuklf said:
Anyone got any recommendations for a wireless charger. Don't really want to fork out £60.00 for the official. Been looking on ebay/amazon and see some are about £15-£20 and getting some decent reviews. It is just to sit on bed side table for charging though the night.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I remember using 2 cheap ones for my s8+ and they never worked as well as the original Samsung. Always got VERY hot, disconnected all the time when not placed exactly in the middle...they also made weird sounds too so no good for a night stand.
I recommend buying official gear... It's the wrong place to save money

Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?

mysiak123 said:
Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
use the charging cable and adapter bundled with the original wireless charger

I got the CP60 bundled with my phone purchase, it came with an extra set of the 40W charger that comes with the phone. I have been using the typical 9W fast wireless charger and CP60 is definitely faster than those. My phone doesn't get hotter than 35 deg C while wireless charging as well.

I got the Anker 10W Qi charger, work great with the little "fast-charging" icon appearing on the phone :good:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07DBX67NC
Using the phone's charger with it so I can choose between wireless or ultra-fast :laugh:

Ordered 2 different chargers from Amazon. Both claim 15w charging but in reality none of them works. Just standard charging.

mysiak123 said:
Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes same happens with me. I am using the charger that came with it

skoobee said:
Yes same happens with me. I am using the charger that came with it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Me too, bloody awful for a £60 charger (even if I got it for free)

This one
https://www.amazon.de/Qi-zertifizie...=UTF8&qid=1544550288&sr=8-1&keywords=zens+15w
definately DOESN'T charge the Mate 20 Pro at 15W. No "wireless fast charging" indication, charging time is much longer than with Huawei's own wireless charger. Too bad, because the flexibility to be able to use it as a stand is great, but I ended up getting the original one. Just another world.
---------- Post added at 06:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------
mysiak123 said:
Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just received it today, and just charged my phone from 88% to 100%, but during that (short) time I didn't have any issues. Obviously using the charger and the cable that came with it.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CP6...036.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.31352e0emrhxvT
Very nice price.

Related

Wireless Charger Info.

Hey Gang,
I just wanted to post a little FYI notice about wireless chargers.
I've seen people being sold 'deals' which include the LG Wireless Charger WORTH £60 and some thinking that this is a good deal.
The G3 is compatible with ANY QI compliant wireless charger and these start from £10. The LG charger is deffo NOT worth £60.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_pg...words=wireless+charger&ie=UTF8&qid=1403693818
Really worth picking up a couple of these to dot around the house and office.
Is wireless charging really worth it? The charger itself still has to be plugged in. From your experience is it really all that more convenient?
Its a bit more convenient because you have to deal with short and tangldd cords (if u have a lot plugged into a power strip persay)
Doesn't really matter. If ppl want to use em, great. If they don't, IDC. Lol.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Thank you for this info.
But sadly I'll need to get a new LG G3 backplate in order for it to work. :/
I've just tried to use the wireless charger that I bought from the play store for my nexus 5 and that doesn't work at all, and also the magnet on the charger seems to activate the circle cover feature.
I bought the following one:
http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/221422967001?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
And it does not work. It detects the device being placed over it (LED turns on) but the G3 ignores it. Disappointed!
I got a Nokia DT-910 from Amazon £35 and works a treat with my G3.
Tried my phone on a friends £15 QI pad and it did charge slowly and the phone got very hot!
Dave
ShiroEd said:
Hey Gang,
I just wanted to post a little FYI notice about wireless chargers.
I've seen people being sold 'deals' which include the LG Wireless Charger WORTH £60 and some thinking that this is a good deal.
The G3 is compatible with ANY QI compliant wireless charger and these start from £10. The LG charger is deffo NOT worth £60.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_pg...words=wireless+charger&ie=UTF8&qid=1403693818
Really worth picking up a couple of these to dot around the house and office.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the circular one from your Amazon link and it doesn't work with the G3, it complains about alignment, and stops charging when the screen is off. It worked fine with my old Note 3.
I have another couple of Qi pads in the office, i'll try them when I get a chance.
skally said:
I have the circular one from your Amazon link and it doesn't work with the G3, it complains about alignment, and stops charging when the screen is off. It worked fine with my old Note 3.
I have another couple of Qi pads in the office, i'll try them when I get a chance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have two of these and they both work fine.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Ch...d=1404049255&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+charger
And I'm getting this delivered this week so I'll update on this too.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Ch...d=1404049255&sr=8-7&keywords=wireless+charger
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Free mobile app
ordered one from ebay for a fiver lol, once i get it i'll post an update here and pictures
ShiroEd said:
I have two of these and they both work fine.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Ch...d=1404049255&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+charger
And I'm getting this delivered this week so I'll update on this too.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Ch...d=1404049255&sr=8-7&keywords=wireless+charger
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, I looked up the one I bought, the description is very similar, but it fails to work properly. Must have different electronics in it or something. I'll be interested to see what that second one is like, looks just the right angle for me.
I tried another one in my office, and that seems to work. Strangely, all that happened was the red charging light came on, as the other one turned the screen on and beeped every few seconds with a little animation saying it was wirelessly charging. Even if it does charge, its way to annoying.
Think we should use this thread to list working and problematic chargers? There's another thread with people having the same issue I found. I hope bad ones are few and far between, but might be useful to have a list.
---------- Post added at 08:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:26 PM ----------
TheKrow said:
Is wireless charging really worth it? The charger itself still has to be plugged in. From your experience is it really all that more convenient?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your working at a desk, they come in really handy. For one, it is a nice dedicated place to put your phone. If you pick up your phone lots of times a day and walk around with it, not having a cable is a godsend. The added charging function is just a great extra.
While it is significantly slower than a direct cable, if you have several ( I have 4: office desk, car, bedside table, media room) you find the cable becomes almost redundant.
One thing to note is that they can't keep up with heavy phone useage. When I'm in the car for instance, usually I have tethering, 4g and Bluetooth on, as well as navigation and streaming radio. I need a cable for that.
Yes, it is true Qi Charging is very slow compared to wall charger.
Has anyone seems any Qi charger going over 1A?
Bought a Chotech t511 qi charger , from Amazon, first of all tried it powering from the pc usb port.....no go ..same as some people have put here...would see the g3 and vice versa , start charging then drop out repeatedly ....then i tried it using the mains plug ..no problems works well...doesn't seem to slow at charging either.....
piepie22 said:
Yes, it is true Qi Charging is very slow compared to wall charger.
Has anyone seems any Qi charger going over 1A?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, the WPC specification (current version 1.1.2) for QI low power is 5watts
No 1A? Thats a shame. It would take at least 5hours to charge G3 then.
My nexus runs hot on qi charge, wonder if it is a heat related issue they dont bump the amp higher?
Sent from my LG-F400S using XDA Free mobile app
Have been using the Nokia 910 charger for a few days and haven't noticed slow charging or heating.
ShiroEd said:
I have two of these and they both work fine.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Ch...d=1404049255&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+charger
And I'm getting this delivered this week so I'll update on this too.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Ch...d=1404049255&sr=8-7&keywords=wireless+charger
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got the second one today, a few things to note:
It's seems to have issues charging from a PC / Laptop USB, probably something to do with the voltage. You need to have it landscape or it complains about it not being center of the hotspot. Thirdly I can't keep my spigen ultra hybrid case on, but I kind of expected that. You also don't get a mains plug which I found very annoying as this will only work from the mains.
The problem in most cases is not the charger itself, is the current of the plug o USB port you use to power the charger.
You need a 1.5-2A plug or 3.0 USB to make most of them work properly.
DaveUK said:
Have been using the Nokia 910 charger for a few days and haven't noticed slow charging or heating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is this the one you are using with the G3 without issue?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-DT-910-Wireless-Charging-Stand-Black/dp/B009WKGQL6
Yep... works fine even with the Spigen Ultra Smooth Case on.

Wireless Charger That Actually Charges All Night

My current wireless charger will charge my phone to 100% and then quit for the rest of the night, leaving my phone at around 95% when I wake up. Is there a better charger to remedy this?
I went back to a Kidigi wired charger to get around that. I rely on the clock feature of the dock, so that was a real turnoff for me.
Tylt Vu, 100% every morning.
Using the Incipio Ghost 100 from when I had my DNA. Works perfect.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LE6X5VU?keywords=qi charger&qid=1455841206&ref_=sr_1_11&sr=8-11
Ive been using it for over a year, always at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the Choe stadium charger I like it so much I got a second for the office.
Nokia DT-900.
Bonus is that this dock, which was originally around $60, can be found for about $15 on the third party market now...
what's wrong with the turbo charger that it shipped with?
buschris said:
what's wrong with the turbo charger that it shipped with?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its not wireless
three west said:
Tylt Vu, 100% every morning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 for Tylt Vu
Also have the Spigen wireless charger that you have to use with your stock charger. It works great most of the time, but occasionally it'll stop working and needs to be unplugged/replugged back in.
no charger is "wireless". What I meant was, is your charging pad plugged to the stock turbo charger and stock cable?
I am using the EXILIENT CHARGING PLATE
SAME WITH ME BUT ON THE BRIGHT SIDE IT SAVES YOUR BATTERY FROM OVERCHARGING AND HEATING, moreover if you use quick charger with the charging plate you get full within 3 hours!!! ain't BAD.:good:
Another vote for the tylt vu. It technically stops charging, but my phone is always at 100% when I pick it up. It does turn off the charging light, but I am assuming that is to keep it from cooking a battery.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
bluefalcon13 said:
Another vote for the tylt vu. It technically stops charging, but my phone is always at 100% when I pick it up. It does turn off the charging light, but I am assuming that is to keep it from cooking a battery.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've settled on the Vu as well. It stops charging once the battery is full (a few mins after the phone registers 100%). If the battery dips back down to 99% during idle, it kicks back on and tops the battery off back to 100% and turns off again.
The Vu is my fav charging stand because it doesn't have bright, obnoxious charging LED indicators. Just a nice dim green LED that doesn't light up my entire room at night.
amanamarsingh said:
IT SAVES YOUR BATTERY FROM OVERCHARGING AND HEATING
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The charging rate is controlled by the handset, not by the charger, so it is not possible to "overcharge" your battery.
It is also extremely unlikely that any increase in temperature from charging will cause any deleterious effect to the battery - this will have been taken into account as part of the design of the charging circuit.
The TYLT VU is good, but it's $50.
The Nokia DT-900 is just as good a charger, and on the third party market it's now about $15.
Your choice...but I can think of other things to do with $35 than give it to TYLT.
quadcrap1 said:
Nokia DT-900.
Bonus is that this dock, which was originally around $60, can be found for about $15 on the third party market now...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the charger I use and it's great
It is not the wireless charger stops charging. It's the software in the phone that shuts off the charging.
Philip said:
The charging rate is controlled by the handset, not by the charger, so it is not possible to "overcharge" your battery.
It is also extremely unlikely that any increase in temperature from charging will cause any deleterious effect to the battery - this will have been taken into account as part of the design of the charging circuit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreeable for nexus 6 which has inherent wireless charging inbuilt, I am using an external wireless case for my iPhone 5s can you please hint on this aspect also.
Thanks in anticipation.
Colonel Singh
amanamarsingh said:
Agreeable for nexus 6 which has inherent wireless charging inbuilt, I am using an external wireless case for my iPhone 5s can you please hint on this aspect also.
Thanks in anticipation.
Colonel Singh
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry - I know nothing (and nor do I want to know anything!) about iPhones.
However, as a general rule, charging is normally managed by the handset, not by the charger.

SuperCharge chargers - will it work with any cable?

After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
vicusbass said:
After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The original cable that came with the phone...Yes
High quality ones (20AWG or better)...Yes (this is what I use)
Cheap nasty ones off ebay....possibly, but doubtful. The phone may still say "Fast Charging" as the charger will identify itself to the phone as a Super Charger, but the phone won't be able to draw the same power as through a decent cable. And you risk damaging the cable and/or phone.
As in all walks of life, you get what you pay for!
Can you recommend me a cable which should work fine?
colthekid said:
The original cable that came with the phone...Yes
High quality ones (20AWG or better)...Yes (this is what I use)
Cheap nasty ones off ebay....possibly, but doubtful. The phone may still say "Fast Charging" as the charger will identify itself to the phone as a Super Charger, but the phone won't be able to draw the same power as through a decent cable. And you risk damaging the cable and/or phone.
As in all walks of life, you get what you pay for!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
vicusbass said:
Can you recommend me a cable which should work fine?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've used cables by Aukey, Anker & Tronsmart. All decent brands and cables, even if they don't mention an AWG figure. Plenty on Amazon. For example, this was the last pack I bought... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E4Z6OUG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But they do sell them as single cables as well
You get quick charging with these, not super charging. Which is still ok, I know
colthekid said:
I've used cables by Aukey, Anker & Tronsmart. All decent brands and cables, even if they don't mention an AWG figure. Plenty on Amazon. For example, this was the last pack I bought... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E4Z6OUG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But they do sell them as single cables as well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
vicusbass said:
You get quick charging with these, not super charging. Which is still ok, I know
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
Edit:
My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
Thanks for the update, I was buying this, but for some reason they do not deliver to Romania...
colthekid said:
Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
Edit:
My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
vicusbass said:
Thanks for the update, I was buying this, but for some reason they do not deliver to Romania...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very few non "Original" Super Cables around at the mo, but this is one I'm probably going to get as well.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PZO...-Type-C-USB-C-For-Huawei-P10/32813218430.html
Worth trying for the price I think, only issue with AliExpress is the delivery time!
Already ordered one, should be here by July
colthekid said:
Very few non "Original" Super Cables around at the mo, but this is one I'm probably going to get as well.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PZO...-Type-C-USB-C-For-Huawei-P10/32813218430.html
Worth trying for the price I think, only issue with AliExpress is the delivery time!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
colthekid said:
Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
Edit:
My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for finding this, I've wasted my time buying 2 different cables that don't work. The OEM cables are just too short.
Huawei Super Charge works using this cable:
https://banggood.com/Orico-AC5-5A-1...ick-Charge-and-Sync-Data-Cable-p-1162313.html
It must be 5A approved.
Anyone knows why the Huawei 5A SuperCharge won't work with an LG G6? I mean I plugged it in, the phone says it's fast charging, but if I start using it while charging the battery level goes down.
vicusbass said:
After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you need to get a 5A cable to have supercharge, anything below that will be fast charge or charging indication only
P10 supports two faster charging standards, I don't have the numbers in front of me but it can use both 9V with 2A and 5V with higher A than the usual 2. This is undocumented and I found out by accidentally using my old phone charger.

Wireless Charging

Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wireless charging works through almost all cases so you should be fine.
Using my "Anker" wireless charger (here) and my "huawei smart view flip cover" (here) it charges no problem with case on. even with the case open flipped around to the back of the phone it still charges fine.
I guess it depends on how thick the case is or how good the charger is
Thank you
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I only got a 10w charger as the original Huawei's charger last time I looked was 3x the price and wanted a desktop version rather then something flat. Wasn't too bothered about the time difference in charging as battery life are pretty awesome anyway! Maybe when the price comes down, then I'll get one. I do see the "green bubbling up" fancy animation, and charges up pretty quick. The Anker wireless charger I think is a good brand to some other cheapo Chinese brands.
As for the case, if its leather, I am assuming its pretty thick, but with my non scientific measurements, my charger handled at least 40 pages of glossy book/magazine paper that it can handle wireless charging! Not sure if further away from charger would make it less wattage getting through to the phone!
---------- Post added at 03:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:02 PM ----------
does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
tweedie said:
does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
Grondah said:
It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cheers. will try that out. its at 100% at the moment, so will give it a couple of hours to lose some charge!
Usually if I'm looking for something I Google it. Type exactly what your looking for, you can always add the best, guaranteed it usually throws something up.
Grondah said:
It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, not sure if I will be disappointed, but it came up at 820mA and I see 4.327V, so based on that calculation it came up as 3548. I doubt thats 35W, so I am gonna guess that is 3.5W? not sure where the advertised 10W charger comes in!
(based at currently already charged of 96% full)
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I won't bother replying in future then. I gave you all the positive feedback you needed but I guess you wanted more answers to your question than you asked.
You answered your own question about the wattage so did not require a response.
Peace out
Yeah, 3.5W (although Ampere don't claim to be amazingly accurate)
There can be all sorts of issues with adapter compatibility. Did it come with an adapter? If not, does the adapter you're using support qc3.0?
I've got a supposed 15W charger so will test it when I get home.
well, I don't think I can recommend Anker wireless charger (here) - suppose to be 10W, but after using that Ampere program, it tells me that at most with the original Huawei adapter (though with a good quality usbB cable as Anker wireless isn't usbc), I got 910mA x 3.93v = 3.5w (with or without case - no difference). Quite poor compared to charging via the original adapter and usbC cable which gave me 3450mA x 4.0518v = 13.9w. I didn't expect wireless charging to match the same power as via wired, but did not expect that big a difference.
Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
duRin90 said:
Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ah right, that kinda makes sense. I thought that Volt mentioned in the app Ampere was the Volt coming in as its charging and not realise that its actually the Volt of the remaining battery. Obviously, my calculation is completely wrong. thanks for pointing that out!
Wireless charger
Fafner76 said:
If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
may I ask where did you get the Huawei wireless Charger for £20?
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Fafner 76
I did the charge On the huawei wireless charger and it works perfect with the case on and it charges at roughly as quick, its a result

Original vs Fake Xiaomi 27w charger video comparison

I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
SmallTarzan said:
Great. Where can you get the original one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
PriPhaze said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
arddy1 said:
Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
daniel0917 said:
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
galakty said:
Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
g_seva said:
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
silmarx said:
But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
g_seva said:
Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
silmarx said:
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.

Categories

Resources