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I wonder if a software update will fix some of the issues with the camera like focus etc.. Does anyone know? Also, does the new Mate 7 have the same internal hardware for the camera since they are both 13mp? Guy on huawei chat said yes but I think he just read that both were same resolution.
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I wonder if a software update will fix some of the issues with the camera like focus etc.. Does anyone know? Also, does the new Mate 7 have the same internal hardware for the camera since they are both 13mp? Guy on huawei chat said yes but I think he just read that both were same resolution.
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I really do hope it does. The front facing camera is alright, can't really complain, but the rear is quite annoying.
What sort of issues are you having? I've had excellent results with the camera. I'm 100% stock, no mods, kernels or anything.
I don't use the huawei camera app or google. I use the Camera FV-5 app, because it has a ton of customizations.
I took this one this past Easter. Other than being cropped, straight from the camera on the Mate2.
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What sort of issues are you having? I've had excellent results with the camera. I'm 100% stock, no mods, kernels or anything.
I don't use the huawei camera app or google. I use the Camera FV-5 app, because it has a ton of customizations.
I took this one this past Easter. Other than being cropped, straight from the camera on the Mate2.
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That's a great pic. I noticed what most seem to notice when I googled. The camera has a focus issue and won't seem to lock on. Daily I'm taking pics and you think you got a good shot then the picture is blurry. My gf took some good shots with hers but the object has to be non moving with perfect light and just stand there and wait for the focus to grab versus all the other phones I've had before. I downloaded many different apps and took the same shot with all of them but non seem to do better and some weren't even capable of using 13mp. I'll check out the FV-5, thank you.
That picture is actually quite bad. Poor saturation and quite underexposed.... but meh, it's a phone camera. Pretty flower though!
I think the HAM2 rear camera could definitely be improved in software. It's my opinion that the front facing camera actually works better than the rear camera half the time. Take video for example... try shooting video in a somewhat darkened room with both cameras - you'll find out that the rear camera suffers a horrible loss of framerate while the video from the front facing camera is smooth as silk.
The front camera also has odd tap-to-focus issues especially when flash is enabled.
With that being said it's a cellphone camera and I've definitely seen much worse. And I love the question in the original post.... no one knows the answer but Huawei and their software development team. How would any of us know what Huawei is including in their Android 5.x based update? I'll still be quite surprised if we even get one, and that's WITH the Huawei blog announcements and the so far worthless 'beta' registration site.....
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That picture is actually quite bad. Poor saturation and quite underexposed.... but meh, it's a phone camera. Pretty flower though!
I think the HAM2 rear camera could definitely be improved in software. It's my opinion that the front facing camera actually works better than the rear camera half the time. Take video for example... try shooting video in a somewhat darkened room with both cameras - you'll find out that the rear camera suffers a horrible loss of framerate while the video from the front facing camera is smooth as silk.
The front camera also has odd tap-to-focus issues especially when flash is enabled.
With that being said it's a cellphone camera and I've definitely seen much worse. And I love the question in the original post.... no one knows the answer but Huawei and their software development team. How would any of us know what Huawei is including in their Android 5.x based update? I'll still be quite surprised if we even get one, and that's WITH the Huawei blog announcements and the so far worthless 'beta' registration site.....
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I was thinking more if anyone has noticed improvements in camera in previous upgrades of other devices so someone could comment "hey when the Honor 6 got it's new OS the camera problems were largely improved" or something like that. For sure nobody can know what the Huawei peeps are doing unless there is a Huawei peep on our lil ole forum. I'm sure you're right, if we even get an update they'll act like there was never an issue with the camera and do nothing. My friend ordered the Mate 7 but I read a review that sounded like it's the same camera as ours still and that's an expensive phone.
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That picture is actually quite bad. Poor saturation and quite underexposed.... but meh, it's a phone camera. Pretty flower though!
I think the HAM2 rear camera could definitely be improved in software. It's my opinion that the front facing camera actually works better than the rear camera half the time. Take video for example... try shooting video in a somewhat darkened room with both cameras - you'll find out that the rear camera suffers a horrible loss of framerate while the video from the front facing camera is smooth as silk.
The front camera also has odd tap-to-focus issues especially when flash is enabled.
With that being said it's a cellphone camera and I've definitely seen much worse. And I love the question in the original post.... no one knows the answer but Huawei and their software development team. How would any of us know what Huawei is including in their Android 5.x based update? I'll still be quite surprised if we even get one, and that's WITH the Huawei blog announcements and the so far worthless 'beta' registration site.....
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It sure doesn't match my dSLR, but like you said...it's a pinhole cell phone sensor...not much wiggle room.
Okay, I love this phone. I love the camera. Just work with the settings to get what you want. Now, THE ONLY THING, is the warp zones in the front facing camera. Always try to get the faces in the center of the screen or else itll appear warped.
Try it out and see for yourself. I guess that's the downside to having a long phone. The lens in the camera has to recompensate and redistribute the photons evenly.
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And cant forget about the alien beauty filter! Makes it look like you did some zoomers!
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Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Honor 8 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Managed to review the video I took over the weekend. It's decent, but was a bit shaky. Then I realised, Stabilisation wasn't turned on by default. On video audio, I noticed the subject which was standing in front (giving a talk), audio captured was soft. I guess there is no mic point forward? But the sound from the sides... They were very loud.
The talk was at an open area in the park. I could hear dogs barking and crows... But the speaker's voice was very soft though.
Hi, i have Honor 8 pro since 2 weeks, i have one doubt, whether the 4K video recording has EIS or not? if not will the future update will get?
P.K.Shivaram said:
Hi, i have Honor 8 pro since 2 weeks, i have one doubt, whether the 4K video recording has EIS or not? if not will the future update will get?
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4k doesn't have EIS right now. It will come with a future update.
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4k doesn't have EIS right now. It will come with a future update.
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Superb, Thanks for the reply
Is the camera better the OP3T ?
Pretty nice improvement over Honor 8.
Really good !!! Satisfied.
really great. no complaint here.
dont really shoot video.took a sample shot and satidfied
it captures awesome videos.
Very high quality for important memories.
Hello,
I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos looks bad, noisy.
I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.
Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting. At one moment I found it, but I don't know if it was before or after the Android 9 update.
I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.
My software version is 9.0.0.161.
1. Are there any problems regarding the update or my phone is broken ?
2. Does anyone also have those problems ?
Hi, I don't think you have a hardware problem. I have this phone since 16th november of 2018, with Oreo 8.0.0.157 C432-L29, i didn't have those problems. In Android Pie i think the app doesn't have the same performance like Oreo's. The AI of this app is INCAPABLE of making things right now, for me. Shooting photos is better, but videos in 1080p looks a bit weird , especially in low light condition. Maybe this is the problem. Let's hope in the next updates, they will fix it and make it better.
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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1st: video has been very bad on Huawei phones for a long time. It has not gotten better, even the mate 20 pro is far behind apple and Samsung.
2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
3rd: the phone has improved it’s photo quality and camera app in general over the past year I have had the phone since Jan 2018. It got updates every 2 months with new features almost every time. They added handheld night mode, face unlock, 960fps slomow, improved aperture depth detection, improved AI (looks a lot less oversaturated now) it also got gpu turbo and much much more. In the span of a year i Must say huawei impressed me.
4th: it took me some time to get to know the camera. Now my shots are much better (I use raw from pro mode) so it’s mostly about the photographer.
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2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization it is software only. I have just checked and I don’t have the option in my phone either but I think it’s on automatically since there is a big crop. This is because they use the outer edges of the image sensor to make up for the movement. You can google how EIS in videos work. You can see much more when using 1080p60 so there is no EIS but when you switch to 1080p30 there is a huge crop.
Edit: I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
Hardware stabilization is optical stabilization but it does not do much (it is always on btw it is a way how the lense is built) except for removing shaking when taking photos it is especially useful in dark conditions where the shutter speed is reduced to take more light in. It will almost do nothing in videos. You can find out if a phone has optical image stabilization if you gently hit you phone close to the camera with one hand while holding it with your other there should be a little noise like there coins inside the phone.. That is because the lenses move around in order to counter camera movement from shaky hands.
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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Lol sorry. Well it can’t be hardware if all is well when recording 4K or taking photos. So I guess it just doesn’t live up to your standards. In general many YouTube reviews criticize that 1080p looks more like 720p upscaled. Maybe that’s what you mean also.
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I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
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Hi,Alfred!
May I know the Android version and camera software version on your Mate during that test?
Think there needs to be a thread for photos taken on the P30 Pro, given how the key feature of this phone is the camera(s).
I've also created a Google Photos gallery that people can share photos on (and video). It's non-commercial, and anyone that posts a photo obviously retains their own copyright.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/crLDcUSr9mxgJCSV8
So far the gallery has some examples of the various zoom levels (and wide angle), low-light and some very impressive shots of the sun. I am really loving the flexibility of the camera in just about all conditions.
I can't wait to see photos from others.
camera only good at zoom is a camera half good, in a perfect world it would do miracles with video aswell if it used Snapdragon 855
Any chance someone can put some super-slow-mo videos up please?
Id like to see someone post a sample too.
I saw a video on YouTube and slowMo looked absolutely horrible. Also not as slow as the phone it was compared to. Ive watched so many videos on the p30 that I doubt I could find the video again.
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Id like to see someone post a sample too.
I saw a video on YouTube and slowMo looked absolutely horrible. Also not as slow as the phone it was compared to. Ive watched so many videos on the p30 that I doubt I could find the video again.
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This 960fps slow motion is fame with Huawei
Extremely bad quality besides s10 plus
I saw the video too
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I dont like the over sharpness at night with night mode
Pixel xl 3 night sight is way better in term of normal details and Colours
Huawei needs to work hard to fix image processing with night mode and faces details
Sorry, but these photos do nothing for me in terms of showing what the phone is capable of. Many (most?) of the photos are shaky or way too soft even at ISO50. I do like how the colors look tho, especially in the night photos.
Here's a new video that was posted comparing the slow Mo
https://youtu.be/qffBzSC7DmY
Hopefully the p30 improves!
Here's a few samples of mine, i had the P30 Pro since launch day and it's a camera champ. But i don't recommend you go beyond the 5x optical focal length or it won't be pretty. The noise reduction in jpeg's is a bit too strong for my taste, i hope Huawei tones it down. However the raw files are very nice to work with.
1. Flower is shot in raw at iso 50 indoors.
2. Church shot using 16mm ultrawide angle.
3, 5x at the church clock, shot raw.
4. 16mm indoors at chuch.
5. Building shot at 5x in raw.
6. Hotel interior at 16mm ultrawide angle, shot in jpeg.
7. Test of ToF sensor and fake bokeh at water fountain.
8. 5x at outdoor hotel pool 50 meters above ground. Shot from below.
/ Magnus
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Here's a new video that was posted comparing the slow Mo
https://youtu.be/qffBzSC7DmY
Hopefully the p30 improves!
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Thanks for sharing. That is a shame, but still better than the shockingly bad P20 Pro that wasn't actually 960fps...
I feel this will be a great camera replacement phone for my Mate 20 Pro of course until the Mate 30 Pro comes out... I wonder if Huawei will completely ditch 3D face and notch... will be interesting. The Mate 20 Pro is a great phone... brought me back from the Apple Darkside. I can't see Apple being able to keep up with Samsung and Huawei (even Xiaomi for that matter) in the top camera phone space, anymore.... IMO. They have just lost so much ground to make it all up with their incremental updates.... I think android has brought me back with better technology, we'll see if it keeps me.
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First photo taken in our condominium courtyard.
Sorry to be the bad guy, but there are no real details. It suffers from the well known Huawei processing. This phone is good for the Instagram generation, but it takes bad photos. Not true to life.
Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.
Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
Any video samples? For me video is more important than photos and it seems the Kirin CPU can not handle video with high enough bitrate, I see occasional stutter too. One reviewer mentioned that 4K video did appear like it was actually 1440p upscaled. One other review did check video bitrate and framerate and both did appear low (I think it was 27Mbps and 28fps for a 4K video).
I wonder if these things could be tweaked by modifying camera app, to try increase bitrate.
EDIT: The video review showing P30 Pro video bitrate, framerate and panning stutter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LaeCzEMEgw
So many reviews out there seem to be sponsored, looking for real-life video examples.
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Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.
Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
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I have the opposite experience. Samples found online wasn't that impressive, but I quite like how the photos I take (in daylight so far) look., even when zoomed in. It's definitely not as sharp as say, Pixel 3XL, but very good.
I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
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I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
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My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.
Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.
I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
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My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.
Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.
I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
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Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
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Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
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I want to get the 124 update before I do much more testing but here for example is a crop of some daffodils in the sunlight from the XR and P30 Pro (no AI mode).
I wish I had the .124 update before family day at the zoo but still impressed with these 10x zoom. My S10 could definitely not do this. Keep in mind that lion was through streaky zoo glass.
Hi all,
I'm really keen to buy the Oppo Reno 10x zoom but it's a big investment. I have a huawei mate 10 with a disappointing camera, I want to make sure the camera is decent this time.
If there are up to 3 people able to get a few specific kind of photos /videos (stock and with gcam) I'll happily send a £5 amazon voucher by their email a giftcard system as thanks.
Please could you get (no need for the zoom or wide lense in these pics)
1. A, few photos on the main camera, in the day with stock and gcam. Then again in evening where its not dark (no nightmode) but just not as bright.
2. Same again but with something moving (I have dogs which are hard to photo with my huawei mate 10 in any detail) e.g. dogs or people
3. Gcam and regular main cam on portrait but on the main rear camera of some random objects
4. A few Videos on the rear cam of something moving with stock and gcam in good and average light (not night).
5. I would really like to get slow motion vids of my dogs so ideally some 240fps 1080p videos in the day and slightly darker of something moving that would be great. I don't think gcam slow motion works yet.
I know it's a big ask but hopefully an amazon voucher compensates for this. I'm not sure where to upload the videos / pics without them degrading but maybe cloud storage somehow?
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Mike
Hi
I am ready to give you the details.
Please mention by when u need the info?
karthikchandra37 said:
Hi
I am ready to give you the details.
Please mention by when u need the info?
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Kind of you to offer but because of the lack of response and little info elsewhere, I bought a s10. Knew the camera would be good, even if it's got an annoying notch on the screen.
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AndroidUK2016 said:
Kind of you to offer but because of the lack of response and little info elsewhere, I bought a s10. Knew the camera would be good, even if it's got an annoying notch on the screen.
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Oh thats fine, anyways Oppo camera is also good but it has its drawbacks, mainly 5x zoom you wont be using much and anything below 5x is purely digital.
Night mode is not that impressive compared to the counterparts, and overall the weight of the mobile is also heavy.
As, in India the price is around 560 USD I went for this mobile.