Yota 3+ user experience - YotaPhone 3 Questions & Answers

I'm very curious about the Yota 3+, the international edition of Yota 3 with the Google Play support and mirroring function.
Could any current Yota 3+ owner share their experience, please? Like how is App2Back (mirroring function)? Is there any contrast setting for the eink display?
P.S. if any current Yota 3+ owner could upload the firmware it would be even greater!

stevenfang1997 said:
I'm very curious about the Yota 3+, the international edition of Yota 3 with the Google Play support and mirroring function.
Could any current Yota 3+ owner share their experience, please? Like how is App2Back (mirroring function)? Is there any contrast setting for the eink display?
P.S. if any current Yota 3+ owner could upload the firmware it would be even greater!
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Hi, i just got the yota3+ from hongkong local store arround 2weeks, i'm mate9 & boox t76 user, this 2week review, 1, battery average, 2, google no problem, 3, no nfc/ir , 4, eink screen performance good, just abit small, no backlight, build in app2back fuction not bad, screen can only work on vertical. Screen for book reading very good, not good for comic. 5, system run on android 8.1 (yetios), abit stupid system but acceptable. I usually shutdown the phone at night, no crash or die in daily use. 6, lack of accessories, can't find any 3rd parties stuff, i need to go local store custom made screen protector. But the offical cover case is a handy case, very good for this phone.
7. Hisense have a A6 launched, may switch once this phone dead.

nbkyle said:
Hi, i just got the yota3+ from hongkong local store arround 2weeks, i'm mate9 & boox t76 user, this 2week review, 1, battery average, 2, google no problem, 3, no nfc/ir , 4, eink screen performance good, just abit small, no backlight, build in app2back fuction not bad, screen can only work on vertical. Screen for book reading very good, not good for comic. 5, system run on android 8.1 (yetios), abit stupid system but acceptable. I usually shutdown the phone at night, no crash or die in daily use. 6, lack of accessories, can't find any 3rd parties stuff, i need to go local store custom made screen protector. But the offical cover case is a handy case, very good for this phone.
7. Hisense have a A6 launched, may switch once this phone dead.
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Thanks for your reply. Can you please tell me if there is the contrast and the refresh rate settings for the eink screen like Hisence A2 Pro?

stevenfang1997 said:
Thanks for your reply. Can you please tell me if there is the contrast and the refresh rate settings for the eink screen like Hisence A2 Pro?
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No, it don't have these options, hahaa.

hi
nbkyle said:
No, it don't have these options, hahaa.
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Hello, I envy you have already got yota3+, there are a lot of yota3 users in China, even on XDA, there are many foreigners waiting for your good news. Can you upload YOTA3+ firmware?

nbkyle said:
Hi, i just got the yota3+ from hongkong local store arround 2weeks, i'm mate9 & boox t76 user, this 2week review, 1, battery average, 2, google no problem, 3, no nfc/ir , 4, eink screen performance good, just abit small, no backlight, build in app2back fuction not bad, screen can only work on vertical. Screen for book reading very good, not good for comic. 5, system run on android 8.1 (yetios), abit stupid system but acceptable. I usually shutdown the phone at night, no crash or die in daily use. 6, lack of accessories, can't find any 3rd parties stuff, i need to go local store custom made screen protector. But the offical cover case is a handy case, very good for this phone.
7. Hisense have a A6 launched, may switch once this phone dead.
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Hisense A6 cannot support Google service. Google users are disappointed to use any mobiles without Google service, like Yota 3. Even though we can install Google service in it, running Google apps may be collapsed sometimes. Wishing the firmware from you may help us.

epd_optimizer
I have bought YOTA3+.
epd_optimizer is working on YOTA3+.
very good!

it sue
Hisense A2 Pro is very bad.
Camera is extremely low res.
The e-Ink screen isn't like Yotaphone's it is covered in glass... all glossy. Not like an e-reader at all.
stevenfang1997 said:
Thanks for your reply. Can you please tell me if there is the contrast and the refresh rate settings for the eink screen like Hisence A2 Pro?
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Can you please tell me if Yota 3+ native phone application supports recording of voice phone calls? I have this available with Hisense A2 Pro (most Chinese made phones do have this). Want to know if Yota 3+ has it. Recorder is available by pushing a recording button during or before the phone call. Of course there are 3rd party android apps but the 3rd party apps add another layer of interaction, I prefer to have the ability to record a phone conversation natively in the "stock" Phone App. (Yes I know legal implications of recording

polocanada said:
Can you please tell me if Yota 3+ native phone application supports recording of voice phone calls? I have this available with Hisense A2 Pro (most Chinese made phones do have this). Want to know if Yota 3+ has it. Recorder is available by pushing a recording button during or before the phone call. Of course there are 3rd party android apps but the 3rd party apps add another layer of interaction, I prefer to have the ability to record a phone conversation natively in the "stock" Phone App. (Yes I know legal implications of recording
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there is no native apps to record voice phone. there is a very basic phone app and a very simple recorder( it can't work in the background). you need to add some 3rd party apps.

Yota 3+ experiences
Hi,
I have the yota 3+ with YetiOS 8.1.0 (13.11.2018) for about 2 weeks now
and that is my experience so far:
2 main issues :
- whatsapp web with the Yota3+ isn't working, as the Yotaphone scan application inside whatsapp istn't able to scan
the QR-code on the computer screen, as the scanner is not working properly.
- if you select "power button will not lock/unlock" in the security settings, but the EPD-screen will lock up/freeze soon after that, and can't be unlocked then.
pros :
- Phone performance is OK, running stable without crashing.
- Battery life time is also OK
- GSM reception, GPS reception, phone call quality and overall volume / loudspeaker are Okay.
- Mirroring apps on the EPD-screen works well.
- 3rd party Widgets are running on the EPD.
- no bloatware installed
cons:
- Camera is below expectations, I didn't expect super high quality, but the picture quality is disappointing even in mid range expectations.
- No landscape mode on the EPD (only portrait) , hopefully this will be fixed on a future firmware-update.
- Compared to the predecessor Yota2 no NFC and no QI-Charging anymore.
Over all, coming from the (meanwhile outdated) Yotaphone2 , I am a bit disappointed of the Yota3+,
aside Octacore speed, slightly improved battery performance and display it hasn't much more to offer.
What are your thoughts ?
Greetings
Dirk

Hello,
- WhatsApp Web - scan QR code still does not work. So I can't add desktop pc to whatsapp.
- EPD screen
* weater widget - sometime it's not updated - "no internet connection" when I am running only on 4G Data. Need to be connected to internet with WiFi.
* time widget - sometime it's not updated - restart phone solve this problem
* exist any SMS notification widget for EPD like in YotaPhone 2, where when SMS come, it's shown for 10 seconds on EPD and then it's hidden?
* any widgets for quic info about email, sms, missed calls, and so on...?

My WhatsApp Web is working. I had problems with the phone too and it crashed yesterday. I recognized too late that the recovery wasn´t correctly working, so i had to flash the phone again. Since now, everything is working perfectly.

Sodasistso said:
My WhatsApp Web is working. I had problems with the phone too and it crashed yesterday. I recognized too late that the recovery wasn´t correctly working, so i had to flash the phone again. Since now, everything is working perfectly.
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Interesting!
may I ask, what Version you have running , 8.1.0 kernel 3.18.71 Build Y3XSCN1805161 from Tue Nov. 13th ?
You said, you flashed it ? With a new version or did you just reset it to factory settings ?
As also Mr. Tubar above has written, scanning whatsapp web doesn't work for mine either, it looks like this :
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sometimes, my weather and time widget also is divergent from the real time,
please see the real time in the menu bar on top of the screen :
In addition the weather widget is set up to update every 30 minutes, but it stays unchanged for hours...
* exist any SMS notification widget for EPD like in YotaPhone 2, where when SMS come, it's shown for 10 seconds on EPD and then it's hidden?
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I am using the Yota2 widget from Alex Archen, called "YoMessage", you probably still know it from Yotaphone2.
It is working on yota3+, showing incoming WhatsApp & SMS ae-mails and whatever you configure it.
However, changing back from popping up message to normal EPD-Screen isn't always working properly,
sometimes the display remains in a almost completely faded message instead of going back to idle screen.
So it is not perfect, but it works.
I am hoping for a new firmware update to get rid off some of the bugs.
Greetings
Dirk

sorry, i made an update recently, so i don´t know my kernel version. As my Phone crashed, i had already the newest version of the updates. It worked with whatsapp right after i flashed it with the 9008, without any update. I willt try it with the newest update.
I flashed it again with the instructions in the forum, from Yota 3 to Yota 3+. I recognized, that i didn´t had a correct working recovery after the first try of flashing to yota 3+.
Dirkifiz said:
Interesting!
may I ask, what Version you have running , 8.1.0 kernel 3.18.71 Build Y3XSCN1805161 from Tue Nov. 13th ?
You said, you flashed it ? With a new version or did you just reset it to factory settings ?
As also Mr. Tubar above has written, scanning whatsapp web doesn't work for mine either, it looks like this :
Sometimes, my weather and time widget also is divergent from the real time,
please see the real time in the menu bar on top of the screen :
In addition the weather widget is set up to update every 30 minutes, but it stays unchanged for hours...
I am using the Yota2 widget from Alex Archen, called "YoMessage", you probably still know it from Yotaphone2.
It is working on yota3+, showing incoming WhatsApp & SMS ae-mails and whatever you configure it.
However, changing back from popping up message to normal EPD-Screen isn't always working properly,
sometimes the display remains in a almost completely faded message instead of going back to idle screen.
So it is not perfect, but it works.
I am hoping for a new firmware update to get rid off some of the bugs.
Greetings
Dirk
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Whatsapp Web
So, i have some answers.
After i flashed the Yota 3 to the Yota 3+, everything was working well, including Whatsapp Web.
After the first Update, the small one with 16MB, i lost the ability of booting into the stock recovery, everything else worked fine.
After the next Update, the big one with 1,4GB, i still lost the stock recovery an Whatsapp Web didn´t work.
I think, i flash my phone back to get all functions back. Especially because the last time of the heavy phone crash i had the newest update also.

Thank you Sodasistso, your answer cleared it up.
So the newest firmware is just buggy.
And congratulations that you were successful to flash your yota3 to plus ,
I wasn't aware of that before I read the other thread about it.

nbkyle said:
Hi, i just got the yota3+ from hongkong local store arround 2weeks, i'm mate9 & boox t76 user, this 2week review, 1, battery average, 2, google no problem, 3, no nfc/ir , 4, eink screen performance good, just abit small, no backlight, build in app2back fuction not bad, screen can only work on vertical. Screen for book reading very good, not good for comic. 5, system run on android 8.1 (yetios), abit stupid system but acceptable. I usually shutdown the phone at night, no crash or die in daily use. 6, lack of accessories, can't find any 3rd parties stuff, i need to go local store custom made screen protector. But the offical cover case is a handy case, very good for this phone.
7. Hisense have a A6 launched, may switch once this phone dead.
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Hi,
thanks for your feedback. I would get the Yota3+ can please share the trusted store you used?
Thanks!!!

Dirkifiz said:
...scanning whatsapp web doesn't work for mine either, it looks like this :
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After flashing from Yota3 to Yota3+ scanner works fine, and it's true, that after big second update Yota3+ scanner stop working.
Scaner on other phone apps works fine, I think problem it's only in whatsapp which use his internal scan tools maybe.
I have found temporaly solution for that - add windows whatsapp app to whatsapp.
I turn on in Windows 10 Zoom for 200%-400%, then I start Whatsapp app on Windows 10, and that qr code in this app aj zoom to whole monitor.
After that I try run scanner in Yota3+ whatsapp and try scan it. After 4-5 try, I do that I scan it from 50cm from monitor.

Tubar said:
I have found temporaly solution for that - add windows whatsapp app to whatsapp.
I turn on in Windows 10 Zoom for 200%-400%, then I start Whatsapp app on Windows 10, and that qr code in this app aj zoom to whole monitor.
After that I try run scanner in Yota3+ whatsapp and try scan it. After 4-5 try, I do that I scan it from 50cm from monitor.
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THANK YOU ! :good:
that did the trick! I did not expect the scanner would scan anything at all in this mood,
but when zooming the QR-code to the max screen size and reducing brightness of the backlit notebook display,
the whatsapp was able to read it when placing the QR-code in the white area of the scanning area. :fingers-crossed:
Greetings
Dirk

Related

[App] Marathon - GPS measure / tracking software

Latest version: 1.3.1.5.
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Marathon is a Windows Mobile application which keeps track of your movement with the help of a GPS-receiver. It’s the perfect companion for sporting activates such as running and bicycling. You can configure Marathon to announce various statistics in the headset or speaker while you’re recording. This gives you the advantage of always knowing your performance and is a great morale boost to reach your goals. You can compete with yourself by setting the goal time comparison settings to one of your previous results. This will allow the announcements to tell you exactly how many seconds ahead or behind you are. You may also use the generic time goal in case you haven’t recorded anything to compete against. The application records and displays data such as time, distance, speed and your altitude change. You can also choose to display your speed and altitude as bar or line charts, as well as showing a map of your recording. As a complement to the application, Marathon is compatible with a free online service, which allows you to see more detailed information about your performance. You can view your result on a map as well as see various rankings against other users of the service.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Features
• Announce various statistics in the headset or speaker while running.
• Compete with yourself by using a previous recording or a generic time based goal.
• Records data such as time, distance, speed, altitude change.
• Can show a graph over your speed/altitude as well as a map of the track.
• Upload the result to www.marathon-mobile.net to see more detailed info and compare your results with others. The webpage is still a work in progress, so don’t expect too much yet.
Requirements
• Windows Mobile 5.0+ Professional device.
• GPS receiver with support for Microsoft’s GPS Intermediate Driver.
• Screen resolution of at least 240x240 pixels.
Download
http://www.marathon-mobile.net/Download/DownloadLatestVersion
neat app- hope this helps to get you more coverage since I think the app deserves it: http://www.fuzemobility.com/marathon-gps-trainer-released/
Is it possible to also make it save the track as kml so it can be viewed in google earth?
biohazardousguy said:
Is it possible to also make it save the track as kml so it can be viewed in google earth?
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Hello!
would this run on my diamond (640 x 480)?
+1 for google earth - support!
A few questions:
1. Will this work on a VGA, e.g., a Fuze?
2. Does it track in miles or just kms?
3. Will it work for cycling, e.g., mph, not just mins/mile?
I currently use GPSCycleComputer because it works for both running and cycling, but this app has some nice new features.
seriously guys, are you even reading the first post?
I’ve tested it on my HTC Touch Pro
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Touch Pro = VGA
It works on the Fuze/Diamond at VGA: http://www.fuzemobility.com/marathon-gps-trainer-released/
I'll let the author respond to changes to mph instead of km.
bugsykoosh said:
neat app- hope this helps to get you more coverage since I think the app deserves it: http://www.fuzemobility.com/marathon-gps-trainer-released/
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Thank you!
biohazardousguy said:
Is it possible to also make it save the track as kml so it can be viewed in google earth?
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Im considering to implement some kind of map integration, so i'll look into it.
drjim said:
A few questions:
1. Will this work on a VGA, e.g., a Fuze?
2. Does it track in miles or just kms?
3. Will it work for cycling, e.g., mph, not just mins/mile?
I currently use GPSCycleComputer because it works for both running and cycling, but this app has some nice new features.
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bugsykoosh said:
It works on the Fuze/Diamond at VGA: http://www.fuzemobility.com/marathon-gps-trainer-released/
I'll let the author respond to changes to mph instead of km.
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I haven’t tried it on a bike, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work since it works with walking, running and cars. You can also select different methods, such as “Run”, “Bike” and “Ski” when you save your result to keep track of your travel method.
I've implemented the following units, you can change between them using "Menu->Settings->Unit":
km/h
m/s
mph
min/km
I'll add more if someone find it usefull. Would min / mile be of any use?
I would love you to add minutes per mile as that is the standard measure for running speed, so it would be useful for running.
Thanks.
Very well done!
Hi Ooije,
I did a first test of your app and I'm very impressed about it's features and how well it works for the very first beta! On my Touch Pro, it did find my current position very fast and the distance measured is exactly what www.gpsies.com tells me about it. Uploading to your homepage also worked well and is such easy to do. Congratulations and thank you very much!
Of course although it is already very functional, there are some feature requests:
- I did not dare to switch off the device at my first test, because I did not want the GPS receiver being stopped and used S2U2 as screen lock. Having an option to switch off the display and locking the device (as in GPSCycleComputer) would be a great thing.
- Having an option for specifying the GPS settings would be fine. On the Touch Pro it connects to the intermediate driver directly and works well, but actually I'd like to have it connected to GPSGate on another Port.
- For the running pace (min/km), it shows seconds as percent of minutes. Having it as mm:ss (that is 7:54 instead of 7,9) would be appreciated. BTW:
drjim said:
(...) minutes per mile as that is the standard measure for running speed (...)
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Here in Europe it is min/km, which is already implemented... ;-)
- I didn't try that audio feature yet (BTW: Do you use earphones?), but I'm thinking that it could also be useful if you're on an unknown route to have some very basic navigation features. That is, importing a route (on www.gpsies.com there are a lot of it) and at least being told if you're leaving that route. For more information you can have a look on your display then, which might show the planned vs. the actual route.
- I'm interested in having a plot "pace over time". I'm not quite sure whether GPS data are such accurate (especially these qualcomm receivers), but maybe there can be done some filtering in order to have good results.
- and of course exporting the track as GPX, KML or whatever (hey, there is GPSBabel to translate it ;-) ) would be great
Last but not least, there is a small flaw having +infity as speed after loading or saving a track - maybe it's currently there for debugging purposes (see screenshot attached)
Cheers
Matzix
PS: If you want/need a german translation, please let me know!
drjim said:
I would love you to add minutes per mile as that is the standard measure for running speed, so it would be useful for running.
Thanks.
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Alright, if that’s what you use in US I’ll put it on top of my TODO-list. Thanks for the feedback.
Matzix said:
Hi Ooije,
I did a first test of your app and I'm very impressed about it's features and how well it works for the very first beta! On my Touch Pro, it did find my current position very fast and the distance measured is exactly what www.gpsies.com tells me about it. Uploading to your homepage also worked well and is such easy to do. Congratulations and thank you very much!
Of course although it is already very functional, there are some feature requests:
- I did not dare to switch off the device at my first test, because I did not want the GPS receiver being stopped and used S2U2 as screen lock. Having an option to switch off the display and locking the device (as in GPSCycleComputer) would be a great thing.
- Having an option for specifying the GPS settings would be fine. On the Touch Pro it connects to the intermediate driver directly and works well, but actually I'd like to have it connected to GPSGate on another Port.
- For the running pace (min/km), it shows seconds as percent of minutes. Having it as mm:ss (that is 7:54 instead of 7,9) would be appreciated. BTW:
Here in Europe it is min/km, which is already implemented... ;-)
- I didn't try that audio feature yet (BTW: Do you use earphones?), but I'm thinking that it could also be useful if you're on an unknown route to have some very basic navigation features. That is, importing a route (on www.gpsies.com there are a lot of it) and at least being told if you're leaving that route. For more information you can have a look on your display then, which might show the planned vs. the actual route.
- I'm interested in having a plot "pace over time". I'm not quite sure whether GPS data are such accurate (especially these qualcomm receivers), but maybe there can be done some filtering in order to have good results.
- and of course exporting the track as GPX, KML or whatever (hey, there is GPSBabel to translate it ;-) ) would be great
Last but not least, there is a small flaw having +infity as speed after loading or saving a track - maybe it's currently there for debugging purposes (see screenshot attached)
Cheers
Matzix
PS: If you want/need a german translation, please let me know!
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You should be able to switch of the device since it keeps the GPS receiver and sound devices running (unless you mixed with the power options). But I guess that could be useful in combination with the ability to read from a NMEA-data directly from a COM port. Unfortunately this is not my highest priority right now, but I might look into it.
Showing pace as m:ss instead of a decimal number might be handy. If that’s what people expect when using the min/km unit I’ll definitely change. What would the expected audio announcement be for such a metric? “three point forty five” could mean either 3.45 (as a decimal number) or 3 minutes and 45 seconds.
The audio feature works with both speaker and headset, but if you’re listening to music at the same time you probably don’t want 100% volume in your music player.
Import/Export seems to be a requested feature, so I’ll look in to a few formats and see which fits best. Announcing when you’re too far away from the expected route is a great idea. I’ll put that on my TODO-list.
There are bar charts (5, 10, 15 or 25 bars) as well as a linear diagram built-in to plot the speed. Just select “Menu->View->Speed” and “Menu->Settings->Diagram Type->…” to view them. The diagram is not inverted when min/km is the selected unit, but that shouldn’t take so long to implement.
Since your speed is 0 m/s it will take you infinitive time to move 1 km, so it’s kind of correct . But I guess I’ll replace it with a ∞ (infinitive symbol) to make it look better and less confusing.
Thank you for all your feedback; it’ll definitely help me improve the application. A translation would be nice, but I think it’s best to wait until I have a more stable set of localized strings in the application. It’s hard to keep the English / Swedish translations in sync even when im translating between them myself. So I’ll keep in touch.
Looks great and though i do now own a pocket pc anymore it would be
awesome if you could contact me. I am the head of the urban sports
guerrilla at www.endorphinum.de
Maybe we can work out a system that allows your users to upload their
activity right to endorphin !?
greetings,
Carlos
Not working at all
Hello, this is my feedback:
though the program starts ok (I can see the main interface Window) the GPS is always in "starting..." but never starts...
I tried to start first Tomtom navigator, gps starts, close tomtom and start Marathon but... no way.... "starting gps..."
I see no options to configure it...
My phone is a Windows Mobile 6.0, QVGA resolution, HTC clone (amsam M810)
Thanks.
Test with a Touch HD
First start I got no GPS conection. After softreset, I got the GPS lock after a couple of secods. Then I started for a test run which was fine on the fiorst Minutes with havin a short voice anouncement every Minute. after 5 Minutes the system stopped talking to me and after 25 Minutes the SW stopped completly. So I will wait for the next version to give it a next test. so far the SW is already on a good way, but also not very reliable.
I released a minor update today. Here are the news in beta 1.0.0.2:
Fixed a bug with the start button when the GPS-device was started before the application.
Added support for minutes / mile.
A few other small fixes.
I've also updated the website with Google maps integration, some rankings based on distance and the ability to filter by transport method.
Bibifrine said:
First start I got no GPS conection. After softreset, I got the GPS lock after a couple of secods. Then I started for a test run which was fine on the fiorst Minutes with havin a short voice anouncement every Minute. after 5 Minutes the system stopped talking to me and after 25 Minutes the SW stopped completly. So I will wait for the next version to give it a next test. so far the SW is already on a good way, but also not very reliable.
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That's strange, I've had the application running over a night without any problems (indoors, so no GPS signal in that test). Did you turn the display of or kept it on all the time?
sergutel said:
Hello, this is my feedback:
though the program starts ok (I can see the main interface Window) the GPS is always in "starting..." but never starts...
I tried to start first Tomtom navigator, gps starts, close tomtom and start Marathon but... no way.... "starting gps..."
I see no options to configure it...
My phone is a Windows Mobile 6.0, QVGA resolution, HTC clone (amsam M810)
Thanks.
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The latest release fixes a bug when the GPS was started before the application starts, but I don't think this is the issue in your case. Is your GPS set to be managed by WinMo automatically (Settings->System->External GPS->Access->Manage gps automatically )?. Marathon uses Microsoft GPS intermediate driver, so the OS has to manage the GPS.
I've bought a Bluetooth GPS to play around with, so hopefully it will help me increase the compability with different kind of hardware. By the way, how is your GPS set up in TomTom?
Thanks for the feedback (both of you). It's very valuable since it's kinda hard to fix problems without knowing of there existence .
Cool, just downloading it now.
Any chance you can integrate ApptoDate so that updates are added automatically? Thanks
Regards
"That's strange, I've had the application running over a night without any problems (indoors, so no GPS signal in that test). Did you turn the display of or kept it on all the time? "
I tested the system first with switching to standby (and it does not talk to me) after that I just shut of the screen and then it was talking to me for a couple of Minutes and after 25 Minutes it failed completly. I will download the new version and give it a try on my next run tomorrow.
I will post the result.
quick test on Verizon Omnia WQVGA
I need to start gps before lauch program
nice idea
Hello,
I just downloaded and installed.
Also tested outdoors and jogging
I started Marathon but no way. (waited 10 mins, enough right?) GPS status was always "starting..."
Then I started GPS device from 2 other apps. It did.
Both apps worked and located me in the World.... then closed and opened Marathon
Does not work.
Answering your questions:
yes, GPS is managed by the OS. Option is checked in Settings->System->External GPS->Access
GPS config is: COM1 Baud 9600
ps: what is missed in your software (I think) is the GPS config.
Other software have it.
Thanks a lot.
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The latest release fixes a bug when the GPS was started before the application starts, but I don't think this is the issue in your case. Is your GPS set to be managed by WinMo automatically (Settings->System->External GPS->Access->Manage gps automatically )?. Marathon uses Microsoft GPS intermediate driver, so the OS has to manage the GPS.
I've bought a Bluetooth GPS to play around with, so hopefully it will help me increase the compability with different kind of hardware. By the way, how is your GPS set up in TomTom?
GLOC said:
Cool, just downloading it now.
Any chance you can integrate ApptoDate so that updates are added automatically? Thanks
Regards
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Well, I could at least append it to my TODO-list ^^.
Bibifrine said:
"That's strange, I've had the application running over a night without any problems (indoors, so no GPS signal in that test). Did you turn the display of or kept it on all the time? "
I tested the system first with switching to standby (and it does not talk to me) after that I just shut of the screen and then it was talking to me for a couple of Minutes and after 25 Minutes it failed completly. I will download the new version and give it a try on my next run tomorrow.
I will post the result.
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I assume you haven't changed the settings in "Menu->Settings->Power Management" (at least the first two checkboxes should be checked) and installed the application on your device and not on a memory card? I would really appreciate if you could change the logging level to verbose ( Menu->Settings->Diagnostic Logging), record for a minute or two and then send me the log file in /Program Files/Marathon/Logs so I could investigate further.
megapinky said:
quick test on Verizon Omnia WQVGA
I need to start gps before lauch program
nice idea
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Thanks for the screenshots. The wrong skin is loaded since your bottom bar is 10 pixels higher than the one built into WM. I'll improve the skin loading algorithm a bit so the correct skin will be loaded. Where can I get hold of the bottom bar you're using so I can make sure it works correctly before releasing an update?
sergutel said:
Hello,
I just downloaded and installed.
Also tested outdoors and jogging
I started Marathon but no way. (waited 10 mins, enough right?) GPS status was always "starting..."
Then I started GPS device from 2 other apps. It did.
Both apps worked and located me in the World.... then closed and opened Marathon
Does not work.
Answering your questions:
yes, GPS is managed by the OS. Option is checked in Settings->System->External GPS->Access
GPS config is: COM1 Baud 9600
ps: what is missed in your software (I think) is the GPS config.
Other software have it.
Thanks a lot.
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The latest release fixes a bug when the GPS was started before the application starts, but I don't think this is the issue in your case. Is your GPS set to be managed by WinMo automatically (Settings->System->External GPS->Access->Manage gps automatically )?. Marathon uses Microsoft GPS intermediate driver, so the OS has to manage the GPS.
I've bought a Bluetooth GPS to play around with, so hopefully it will help me increase the compability with different kind of hardware. By the way, how is your GPS set up in TomTom?
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The "Starting GPS Device..." should take less than a second, it says "No Signal" when there is no GPS fix. So the problem is that the GPS device isn't detected at all. Do you usually have to configure applications before using your device or do other software detect your GPS automatically? Currently Marathon uses the GPS intermediate driver which is supposed to increase the abstraction level so I don't have to parse the NMEA strings from the COM-port, but I guess I have to take a look at other alternatives.
Thanks for all the info!

[APP] People's Note - Evernote client

People's Note
http://www.peoplesnote.org
People's Note is a polished Windows Mobile note taking application with full-featured Evernote integration.
The app is completely free and open-source. New versions come out every week or few. Let me know what you think.
You can also add and vote up feature requests at the site.
Download version 0.41 here (last updated: 2012-05-24)
Features
Rich text note creation and editing
TODO list creation and editing
Ink and photo note creation
Optional synchronization with your Evernote account
Offline note storage
High performance and small memory footprint
Requirements
Windows Mobile 5 or 6
Resolution 240x240 or higher
Touchscreen
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This app works great man. Is there any setting to make it autosync anything you make?
I tried evernote long ago but didn't find it much use since there was no winmo app. Any tips or tricks?
wow, great app, works great on the hd2. waiting for the voice notes to be functional. some suggestions: feature to send notes through bluetooth and more color schemes
ninjabortion said:
This app works great man. Is there any setting to make it autosync anything you make?
I tried evernote long ago but didn't find it much use since there was no winmo app. Any tips or tricks?
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There are 3 votes for autosync so far, which does not quite bring it to the top of my to-do pile, but you can help to change that.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/workitem/416
Evernote has a WinMo app, but it is pretty bare-bones and has not been supported for a long time.
joshzzz2001 said:
wow, great app, works great on the hd2. waiting for the voice notes to be functional. some suggestions: feature to send notes through bluetooth and more color schemes
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I'm not sure what you mean by sending notes through bluetooth. Would you elaborate?
Adding more colour schemes is unlikely. The app currently includes two versions of the interface, one for high-resolution displays and one for the low. With more variants of each, it could quickly become unmaintainable. I can't change the background colour programmatically either, because it is baked into the graphics. They are all dithered for 16-bit colour, and dithering is incompatible with transparency.
Don Reba said:
I'm not sure what you mean by sending notes through bluetooth. Would you elaborate?
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It's simply you can send the notes you have to another device, say to another phone or pc, using bluetooth.
joshzzz2001 said:
It's simply you can send the notes you have to another device, say to another phone or pc, using bluetooth.
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The thing I wonder about is what to do with the note on the receiving end. Official Evernote clients cannot properly transfer notes outside of synchronization. Exporting to HTML is possible, but would raise the question of what to do with file attachments.
Of course, if you can connect to internet through Bluetooth, then you can simply sync.
Don Reba said:
There are 3 votes for autosync so far, which does not quite bring it to the top of my to-do pile, but you can help to change that.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/workitem/416
Evernote has a WinMo app, but it is pretty bare-bones and has not been supported for a long time.
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Yeah i remember trying it out specifically because they had one, but it was terrible. Yours works great on my htc touch pro 2 though, so thanks
Perfect timing: I just started trying out Evernote this week and wasn't really keen on Evernote's own application because it's useless offline. And here comes your app and looks great.
I got one problem, though: It refuses to connect via wifi. No problem at all via 3G, but on WiFi it steadily shows "connecting".
Oh, and being able to create new tags would be a good addition.
Rjinswand said:
Perfect timing: I just started trying out Evernote this week and wasn't really keen on Evernote's own application because there it's useless offline. And here comes your app and looks great.
I got one problem, though: It refuses to connect via wifi. No problem at all via 3G, but on WiFi it steadily shows "connecting".
Oh, and being able to create new tag would be a good addition.
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Thanks for complimenting the app. I have not used WiFi in a while, but will try to reproduce your problem.
Started a new work item for tag creation: http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/workitem/1005.
Voting on feature requests gets them implemented sooner.
Since restarting my phone a few times, the app doesn't hang up while trying to connect via WiFi anymore - it just takes way longer than via 3G for some reason, but it's usable.
Edit: Forget about the described problem. I'm sure it was a generally lagging WiFi connectivity that day. It works like a charm in other WiFi networks and now at the same one, too.
I apologize for taking so long to release a new version — just did not have much time to spare. Version 0.38 implements one of the most-requested features, letting you choose "All Notebooks" to browse, search, and sync all your notebooks together.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/releases/view/83479
Great App!
Great App! Working on my old Axim X51V!
I see on your website that you have Notes popping up with a timed alarm reminder as low priority. Let me put in a vote for higher priority.
I would use it as a timed "sticky note" to myself to do something.
Keep up the good work!
Just released version 0.39, making it possible to delete notes from the main note list screen via a tap-and-hold menu.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/releases/view/84127
Version 0.40 adds an option to compact the database from the profile screen. Compacting a database can make it smaller and faster by removing empty spaces left over by editing, moving, and deleting notes.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/releases/view/84688
cant log in
It must be just me; since nobody else has mentionned it; but I cannot log in to evernote at all on my HD2. On 3G it immediately comes back with network error (never even tries to open a data connection). On wifi it seems to be trying to do something in the background but after a few minutes to just goes back to the login screen.
Any ideas??
SR
sydneyrodgers said:
It must be just me; since nobody else has mentionned it; but I cannot log in to evernote at all on my HD2. On 3G it immediately comes back with network error (never even tries to open a data connection). On wifi it seems to be trying to do something in the background but after a few minutes to just goes back to the login screen.
Any ideas??
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It sounds like the WiFi connection is slow and times out. With 3G, try to establish a data connection first, such as by opening a web browser. I just created a work item for this: workitem:1055.
0.41 release
After a temporary break, development continues. Version 0.41 adds some more polish to the user interface, as well as a new in-app player for WAV file attachments.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/releases/view/88314
Don Reba said:
After a temporary break, development continues. Version 0.41 adds some more polish to the user interface, as well as a new in-app player for WAV file attachments.
http://peoplesnote.codeplex.com/releases/view/88314
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thanks for update man....
This application is very usefull for me... Thanks for continue the great works
I use your apllication from the first time and it always works great for me..
Thanks again.
Regrads,
squallvai
This program is making all the right steps in all the right directions, it has great prospects.
There are some features that Evernote has that I hope would arrive in this software in the not-too-distant future. I make more handwritten notes that any other form of note taking, and what I find with 'PeoplesNote' is that the 'Ink Note' feature is just a one page scribble pad without any option to scroll or add a page. It would be fantastic if the Ink Note feature of PeoplesNote could automatically scroll as the old Windows Note does as you approach the bottom of the page. Evernote's Ink Note recognises that you are reaching the bottom of the page and facilitates extra space to scroll into. Additionally, it would be very helpful to have an erase feature with Ink Note.
Please don't take this as criticism, I can see this app being extremely useful for as long as Evernote allow you to develop it.

Everyone Join in to Push LG

Hello Fellow Community Members
There are three things we should do :
1> Make a list of all annoying bugs .. there are many i can assure you about that.
2> Tweet the link to LG ..Like all of us should do that. LG is being elusive in responding to user requests and putting forth the information. They need to know customer / community power.
3> Also Tweet to them to confirm about Marshmallow update (As to when is it coming), what good is a premium priced Flagship device if it does not get all the updates for atleast 2-3 years and this one was released just now. Two screen implementation would be different for Cyanogen and other AOSP based ROMs to implement so we should push LG.
Here is their twitter handle @LGUSAMobile
You all can use this thread. Post your bugs and i will compile those in the next reserved post.
Regards
1> WiFI Roaming access issues.
2> Easily peeling off of back cover (Build quality problem)
No issues here..... V10 is great.
marked, let's see how it goes then...
Low res incoming photos!
I can't believe I haven't heard more complaints about this...am I doing something wrong?
All photos received through MMS are low resolution. Well below acceptable standards. Also downloading photos through websites are all low resolution.
I am on verizon. My Samsung S4 that I just traded in didn't have this issue.
Anyone else having this issue?
WhatheF said:
I can't believe I haven't heard more complaints about this...am I doing something wrong?
All photos received through MMS are low resolution. Well below acceptable standards. Also downloading photos through websites are all low resolution.
I am on verizon. My Samsung S4 that I just traded in didn't have this issue.
Anyone else having this issue?
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The service provider handles the image compression for MMS.
Fingerprint scanner. Shouldn't have to wait for second screen to turn on to unlock device. (would be nice if option for just touching sensor to unlock and turn on device was available.)
Notification panel. Should be pull down once only shows notifications. Pull down again for quick settings.
All good so far can't complain other then I wish they don't wait to long for marshmallow update
knifedroid said:
Fingerprint scanner. Shouldn't have to wait for second screen to turn on to unlock device. (would be nice if option for just touching sensor to unlock and turn on device was available.)
Notification panel. Should be pull down once only shows notifications. Pull down again for quick settings.
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+1
Sent from my Android LG V10
Bugs:
-Youtube video playback at 1440p freezes after ~1min of play while audio keeps going. If you skip to a later point in the video it will resume play then freeze again after ~1min of play all the while audio has no issues. We have multiple threads for it here.
-Cases killing fingerprint detection that affects certain variants of the V10 without the new patch.
-FM radio antenna activation.
Update wishes:
-Ability to customize the Vol shortcut keys to more than Capture+ and Camera.
-Ability to change the DPI settings so the UI isn't so huge.
-A system UI tuner like the one found in Marshmallow.
-More options for the second screen such as a dedicated notifications panel that has a ticker style display and also the ability to swipe off/clear notifications from the second screen.
It's a damn shame it's taken a full week for these people just to know what my issue is they respond 1 time a day at 11 a.m.........this has to be full blown blow up lg thing......not a sometime 1 person thing....they respond when they feel like it....they wanna swim with the big sharks like samsung and apple.....they need to be held accountable for half assin a product to the consumers as if its filet mignon, but really the motha****a is a skirt steak
Sent from my LG-H901 using XDA Free mobile app
I dont have a Twitter account but if some body may post this issue:
Verizon LG V10 VS990. Problem with Bluetooth connection( 2 V10 same issue ,after a week working like a charm a bluetooth connection lost and message on screen "Unfortunately Bluetooth stop working", LG respond to my email and told me to do a hard reset but it is not solve a problem.
Thank you
Oh, yeah. We desperately need the ability to set our own auto-dim thresholds.

Did some has global ROM to install on my find X Chinese version?

I purchased my phone something like 2 Month ago.
I purchased by mistake the Chinese version and I only noticed that when I got the phone.
Since I was waiting a long time to the phone I didn't want to return it and I thought I can get used to it.
But after two months with it I think Im gonna go crazy:crying:
I don't have Google assistant the third party launcher is not fully functional (after I forced to manually remove the system launcher) And the massaging app Is stupid and don't support third party apps I mean WTF????
Please , does somebody has/know where to get international ROM for download?
Landa.m said:
I purchased my phone something like 2 Month ago.
I purchased by mistake the Chinese version and I only noticed that when I got the phone.
Since I was waiting a long time to the phone I didn't want to return it and I thought I can get used to it.
But after two months with it I think Im gonna go crazy:crying:
I don't have Google assistant the third party launcher is not fully functional (after I forced to manually remove the system launcher) And the massaging app Is stupid and don't support third party apps I mean WTF????
Please , does somebody has/know where to get international ROM for download?
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I've got offer to buy chinese version for 500 EUR. Is it worth it?
Shilis said:
I've got offer to buy chinese version for 500 EUR. Is it worth it?
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I don't think so.
This days you have the xiaomi mi mix 3 witch is for my opinion much better than oppo find X and cost even lower than 500 EUR.
Even if wasn't for the xiaomi I still don't recommend to purchase the Chinese version. It's totally sucks!!!!
And If you do want to buy, you can buy my phone for 400 EUR..
Landa.m said:
I don't think so.
This days you have the xiaomi mi mix 3 witch is for my opinion much better than oppo find X and cost even lower than 500 EUR.
Even if wasn't for the xiaomi I still don't recommend to purchase the Chinese version. It's totally sucks!!!!
And If you do want to buy, you can buy my phone for 400 EUR..
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Thank you! Your comment is very valuable to me!
What is worst that does not work?
I like design of Oppo better than Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 a little bit better. Honor Magic 2 is what I also consider (it is even more powerful).
I am not a heavy user of a phone. I mostly use it for calls and emails. Also some browsing, youtube and taxi apps. Maybe taking some photos of my children. I do not use that much apps. But I never had Chinese version of phone, so I do not know what problems could be.
P.S. Which one do you have (what color), what is its condition and where are you located?
Shilis said:
Thank you! Your comment is very valuable to me!
What is worst that does not work?
I like design of Oppo better than Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 a little bit better. Honor Magic 2 is what I also consider (it is even more powerful).
I am not a heavy user of a phone. I mostly use it for calls and emails. Also some browsing, youtube and taxi apps. Maybe taking some photos of my children. I do not use that much apps. But I never had Chinese version of phone, so I do not know what problems could be.
P.S. Which one do you have (what color), what is its condition and where are you located?
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Basically the most annoying things is the fact that Google apps aren't the default for everything. Start with Google assistant and ends with browser and You can't change the default settings for most things.
Also, the massage app is completely out of sense because all of the 'security' that oppo put in the app.
Talking about security:
1. They have annoying security keyboard (but you can change it to Google keyboard).
2. They have kind of secure Chinese browser that almost that serching in it bring up only Chinese website's And you can't change the default that while you open a link that Oppo think it's should be secure automatically it's direct to Oppo browser Wich don't have all of your passwords and username for this very secure page..
3. Like I said the massaging app.
4. You need to open oppo account for security and you can't open one directly from the phone because they only allow Chinese phone number (it is possible to other countries but it's very complicated).
5. I'm sure there is more that I forget or don't know about.
P.S I'm located in Israel.
It's the blue one.
256GB ROM 8GB RAM
Actually it's in a pretty great condition except for a very few unnoticed screech's. If you want to buy it, I can list it on eBay end send you a link.
Landa.m said:
Basically the most annoying things is the fact that Google apps aren't the default for everything. Start with Google assistant and ends with browser and You can't change the default settings for most things.
Also, the massage app is completely out of sense because all of the 'security' that oppo put in the app.
Talking about security:
1. They have annoying security keyboard (but you can change it to Google keyboard).
2. They have kind of secure Chinese browser that almost that serching in it bring up only Chinese website's And you can't change the default that while you open a link that Oppo think it's should be secure automatically it's direct to Oppo browser Wich don't have all of your passwords and username for this very secure page..
3. Like I said the massaging app.
4. You need to open oppo account for security and you can't open one directly from the phone because they only allow Chinese phone number (it is possible to other countries but it's very complicated).
5. I'm sure there is more that I forget or don't know about.
P.S I'm located in Israel.
It's the blue one.
256GB ROM 8GB RAM
Actually it's in a pretty great condition except for a very few unnoticed screech's. If you want to buy it, I can list it on eBay end send you a link.
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The oppo browser and the keyboard are both disabled on my Chinese find X. Nova launcher works PERFECTLY on it as well. I personally don't care about or use the messaging app as I use whatsapp for that.
Using ADB, I disabled all stock functions and apps. My ONLY issue left is not having Google Play Music controls on lockscreen. Other music apps work for that but I've been using Play Music for so long...
SaltyAf said:
The oppo browser and the keyboard are both disabled on my Chinese find X. Nova launcher works PERFECTLY on it as well. I personally don't care about or use the messaging app as I use whatsapp for that.
Using ADB, I disabled all stock functions and apps. My ONLY issue left is not having Google Play Music controls on lockscreen. Other music apps work for that but I've been using Play Music for so long...
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Can you please explain to me how exactly do you installed the Nova launcher?
I used also ADB to remove the system launcher so I can use some other launcher and it worked, I can now use any launcher I please.
But on any launcher I tried including Nova, when I tried to go back from the app currently opened to that main screen I mean when I tried to use the middle button it's just exit all open apps including the launcher and direct me to this screen
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
On this screen I just can't do anything! I can't slide the middle button to show all open apps And I can't use the back buttons!
The only thing I can do is to slide down the notification window (but can't get in to any notification) And to take a screenshot..
Can you please explain to me what exactly did you do to install the Nova launcher on your device?
I didn't do anything special. I installed nova, and removed the stock launcher. Works just fine for me and everyone I know. Try changing the home button action to NONE in the gesture settings in nova.

Best Android Supporting Home DoorBell for (Motion Alert Notification)

Hi all, just wondered if you could guide me please in the best Smart home doorbell which has a decent android supporting app that sends instant notifications to android phones? In your personal opinions, please. I am an owner of a oneplus 7 phone, I have purchased numerous doorbells from amazon,
Ring Door Bell 1&2
Video Doorbell, KAMEP 1080P HD WiFi Doorbell
Both of which just do a bad job of sending notifications to my android phone, they both have decent reviews, yet, the delay in notifications are terrible for the Ring, and the other doorbell I do not get any notifications at all!
However, if I install the supported apps on an iPhone the apps notify my old iPhone 8 instantly with no problems on both Doorbells. They work perfectly Why is this?
I have tested both doorbells on 2 android phones, Samsung galaxy s10 and my one plus 7 phones. All stock android, I have switched off battery optimation for the supported apps, in addition to setting notifications "on" and Important, to pop up during all phone profiles. Wifi password setup for the doorbells is also on 2.4ghz frequency, with no special characters for the password. I have exhausted all avenues on trying to find the best camera with decent instant motion alert for android.
Before I go on to purchase another, I was hoping if anyone could guide me tell me what front camera they have in support for their android device and comment on whether the notifications are instant. When I say instant, I mean at least within 10 seconds. Like any recommendations to purchase, please.
Also, the doorbell function I am not fussed about. I just want a camera to put at my front door that notifies me of motion near my front door to my phone, not a cctv type bullet camera, but a doorbell kinda type, of course, the doorbell feature would be preferable, though amazon do the blink camera which just a camera for motion detection yet small looking which too is fine, though, again I am hesitant because what is the notification like on it to android phones. It just seems to me that the app support for these devices on android are just no good. I have yet come across any doorbell android app that has 4.5 star on the store. All mostly below 4.
Your thoughts, ideas and advice are greatly appreciative. Thank you to all.

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