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Now that there are a lot of reviews out for the 6P, I'm surprised by how many of them complain about the large top and bottom bezels on the 6P and even say it's like a step backwards in design. Some reviewers also seem to be confused and think the large bezels are necessary for the front facing speakers. And there are also quite a few comparisons with the iPhone, as if Apple is the only other company that can't figure out how to make smaller top and bottom bezels.
The reason the bezels are relatively large on the 6P (compared to the Nexus 6 or Nexus 5 or the LG G4) is because the phone is so thin and in addition has a larger battery. Once you shove a big battery (or any battery) in the middle of such a thin phone, the only place left for all of the rest of the electronics of the phone is at the top and bottom. So if you want thin then this is what you get, larger top and bottom bezels.
If anything Huawei should get credit for making a phone the exact same dimensions as the iPhone 6s Plus and getting a larger screen in it, with thinner side bezels, front facing speakers, a bigger camera sensor (okay I know there's the hump), and somewhat smaller top and bottom bezels.
In contrast, the reason the Nexus 6 or LG G4 has smaller top and bottom bezels is because they have that curved back that is much thicker at the center, so they've created extra space for the battery and electronics this way. (It would actually be interesting to know what the comparative volumes of all these phones are.) Or if you consider the Note 5 it is slightly thicker and has a smaller battery (although to be fair, Samsung is pretty good at keeping their phones compact--they're the only company I'm really willing to give special acknowledgement on this account).
Only Android Headlines (so far) seems to have understood in their review that the top and bottom bezels are a consequence of the thinness of the phone, although even they go on to complain about the bezels anyway.
I'm surprised so many reviewers seem so ignorant about cell phone design. You've got to cram all that stuff in their somewhere. Either you're going to have a thicker phone, a curved back, a tall phone, something. If it was just a bad design on the 6P that would be one thing. But if it's a consequence of unavoidable decisions based on the size of current electronics, then it seems misplaced to complain about the bezels without saying they'd rather have a thicker phone or something like that.
Anyway, for others reading the reviews and wondering about the bezels (even for you iPhone owners), I hope this is helpful.
[Edit: Here's the iFixit teardown for the 6P: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus 6P Teardown/51660. It makes it easy to see how the battery takes up half of the space in the 6P and just how much has to be crammed into the remaining space at the top and bottom of the phone.]
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No excuse, thickness > big bezels, like ALWAYS.
Big bezles are a thing ill never support, i will avoid buying ANY phone no matter how good it is, its unacceptable.
Almost all the other phone that have stereo speaker have big bezels. iPhone, HTC one M9, Sony Z serie.
if you don't want big bezel, go buy a LG V10 with the speaker on the back
warplane95 said:
Almost all the other phone that have stereo speaker have big bezels. iPhone, HTC one M9, Sony Z serie.
if you don't want big bezel, go buy a LG V10 with the speaker on the back
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iPhone doesn't have stereo speakers. It's just a pig.
I would gladly go back to having thick phones if it meant bigger battery and better placement of electronics, but I've always valued function over fashion
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Soo, having a thin bezel is function, not fashion???
heleos said:
I would gladly go back to having thick phones if it meant bigger battery and better placement of electronics, but I've always valued function over fashion
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Interesting case to argue, case being the word. For some, a thick phone, that is also cased, would lose its function. Phone manufacturers know a lot of consumers use cases (a study from late 2013 showed 75% and growing). With thinner phones, phones with cases aren't as bulky as phones of the past without cases. Making them easier to hold. One could say a lot of 5.5"+ phones are unwieldy for many as is. If they were thicker, then cased, they'd be completely out of the question for small hands. So extending the phone vertically becomes the answer and they're running on the limits of pocket depth for many.
You could say, "well those consumers should buy smaller phones". Not many manufacturers are making small phones with flagship specs, so a balance must be struck. And when these small phones are made, the average person has unrealistic expectations. Expecting the phone to perform as well as larger phones. Which leads to tons of complaints from illogical consumers.
I remember when my Galaxy S1 was HUGE compare to the iPhone haha.
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Soo, having a thin bezel is function, not fashion???
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If the placement of electronics and larger battery add to thickness of the phone and smaller bezels, then yes, I think smaller bezels in that case would be a result of function
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Interesting case to argue, case being the word. For some, a thick phone, that is also cased, would lose its function. Phone manufacturers know a lot of consumers use cases (a study from late 2013 showed 75% and growing). With thinner phones, phones with cases aren't as bulky as phones of the past without cases. Making them easier to hold. One could say a lot of 5.5"+ phones are unwieldy for many as is. If they were thicker, then cased, they'd be completely out of the question for small hands. So extending the phone vertically becomes the answer and they're running on the limits of pocket depth for many.
You could say, "well those consumers should buy smaller phones". Not many manufacturers are making small phones with flagship specs, so a balance must be struck. And when these small phones are made, the average person has unrealistic expectations. Expecting the phone to perform as well as larger phones. Which leads to tons of complaints from illogical consumers.
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Agree, Google isn't even making a small phone with flagship specs. However, how many people actually need their 6p to be 7.3mm? Would they notice if it was 8mm?
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Agree, Google isn't even making a small phone with flagship specs. However, how many people actually need their 6p to be 7.3mm? Would they notice if it was 8mm?
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Depends on the application of the extra mm. In a rounded form (Moto), it's not as bad but makes the phone wobble on desks. In a flat form, the extra .7mm is felt because it extends all the way across the back and causes you to have to hold your hand wider. With this phone, the engineers spanned the black bar on top all the way across specifically to stop the wobble so I'm sure they wouldn't have been fond of a round back. The many tradeoffs of engineering vs. what consumers want vs. what consumers think they want.
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Depends on the application of the extra mm. In a rounded form (Moto), it's not as bad but makes the phone wobble on desks. In a flat form, the extra .7mm is felt because it extends all the way across the back and causes you to have to hold your hand wider. With this phone, the engineers spanned the black bar on top all the way across specifically to stop the wobble so I'm sure they wouldn't have been fond of a round back. The many tradeoffs of engineering vs. what consumers want vs. what consumers think they want.
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I definitely would not have been fond of a round back. Maybe I'm just biased because I have larger hands, so I have less of a problem
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in the hand and for all practical uses, the rounded back of the entire X lineup is superior to most. for lazy application of swiping the phone while on the desk, its a big PITA. my X stays face down when leave it lying around because its the flattest point. however that means i have to constantly flip it over.
i'm ready for a flat phone.
with screen to body ration of 74% on the N6P I don't think the bezels an issue
dazed1 said:
No excuse, thickness > big bezels, like ALWAYS.
Big bezles are a thing ill never support, i will avoid buying ANY phone no matter how good it is, its unacceptable.
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**** yes! If the G2 nailed that 2 years ago there is absolutely no excuse! I've promised myself to not settle for anything larger than G2-level bezels.
And when was the last time you heard anyone wishing for thinner phones?? This crap-trend needs to die already.
blame the iphone crowd uninformed masses. when OEMs/marketing groups do surveys, they poll popular opinion and come back with "X". people don't miss what they don't understand, so if OEMs can make/save a few pennies per device, they've moved the needle which means management is happy.
it will always take an "unknown" to challenge the status-quo for OEMs to reconsider their path.
Never have I seen so many mountains made of molehills as here on XDA.
its a forum. welcome to the intrawebz. come for the pie, stay for the punch.
I had no idea people were so passionate about bezels. I have never noticed this in my life.
Definitely not a deal breaker with all the 6P badboy features!
Hello,
I'm looking to buy this phone. I currently have an Axon 7, but I can potentially return it if I order soon, and this phone is half the price for similar specs.
Therefore, I wish to know a few things, if anyone will oblige:
1. Can people please take some screenshots of the interface? I want to see just how cancerous the skin is. Specifically, I would like to see settings.
2. Can someone get me LxW measurements on the screen please? I thought 5.5 wouldn't be much smaller than six, but it turns out it almost fits on that screen. I love phablets!
2.5. Can somebody run some benchmarks? I'd be particularly interested in seeing The slingshot one from 3dMark.
3. How'd you say the camera is, in your subjective experience?
3.5. As presumably the folks here have followed development fairly closely.... how's it looking for Lineage/CM/Something else close-ish to stock? If video recording is the only issue, I have no problem with that.
4. Anything else I should know?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
you can find most of those info on YouTube and gsmareana.
btw why would you return your axon 7 for a max 2?
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you can find most of those info on YouTube and gsmareana.
btw why would you return your axon 7 for a max 2?
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All you ask is in youtube.
Actually, it isn't, hence why I came here. I know the rules. Look and then ask for help, my annoyance is how often I do and am dismissed out of hand by people who don't realize that several hours of googling for some obscure answers can be otherwise resolved in a few minutes f their kindly donated time with a ruler and some perspective, and that's when Google does actually have something. In this case, I'm confident to say it lacks what I'm interested in knowing in more than superficial detail.
Or at least, 4 hours into YT and written reviews and I have yet to see what I'm asking for. Please, if you're going to tell someone to just google it, make sure it actually will help, and if not, don't waste time with such an answer.
I've seen only the launcher a very quick look at the settings root, and no dropdown for notifications in that time.
As to photos, I trust the people here to be more in my camp in terms of expectations. The cam looks sharp enough.
Nobody has yet listed the screen dimension in anything but the diagonal, and I don't have a good point of reference for that. I also see fairly rampant issues w/ the fp scanner, and id be interested to know whether those have abated.
As to why I would replace an Axon 7 with it... the 7 is $513 cad. The LE Max 2 is $270 cad. 47% cheaper. It's a lot of money to leave on the table if the differences are negligible.
2 min in google:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-leeco-le-max-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yBjaMT5nXU
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/leeco-le-max-2,zte-axon-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWf8LC7Z210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnXV6g87mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP9eAgfZnac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L-0sMjLPE
if you want know more info about the interface there are plenty of videos on eui.. and there are plenty of benchmarking videos too.. why waste 4 hours?
if you don't like the stock launcher, install something like Nova or Pixel.
dimensions
http://m.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-8051.php
156.8 x 77.6 x 8 mm (6.17 x 3.06 x 0.31 in)
appsmarsterx said:
if you want know more info about the interface there are plenty of videos on eui.. and there are plenty of benchmarking videos too.. why waste 4 hours?
if you don't like the stock launcher, install something like Nova or Pixel.
dimensions
http://m.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-8051.php
156.8 x 77.6 x 8 mm (6.17 x 3.06 x 0.31 in)
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Of the phone, not the screen, I want the screen dimensions and I'd rather have avoided having to do algebra to get it. I checked GSMarena already. I did get some of the more obvious things like Benchmarks out of the way, along with photos, but I don't trust the interface to remain the same on a generic branding.... I wanted to see it specifically on this phone, and every review I've found, if they even address such things, only offers brief flash of the root menus.
One thing I would really like to know it's almost certain the reviews don't touch upon.... how is the hitbox for the capacitive buttons? I have a BLU Pure XL too, and those are extremely narrow, it's quite annoying.
TheLastCanadian said:
Hello,
I'm looking to buy this phone. I currently have an Axon 7, but I can potentially return it if I order soon, and this phone is half the price for similar specs.
Therefore, I wish to know a few things, if anyone will oblige:
1. Can people please take some screenshots of the interface? I want to see just how cancerous the skin is. Specifically, I would like to see settings.
2. Can someone get me LxW measurements on the screen please? I thought 5.5 wouldn't be much smaller than six, but it turns out it almost fits on that screen. I love phablets!
2.5. Can somebody run some benchmarks? I'd be particularly interested in seeing The slingshot one from 3dMark.
3. How'd you say the camera is, in your subjective experience?
3.5. As presumably the folks here have followed development fairly closely.... how's it looking for Lineage/CM/Something else close-ish to stock? If video recording is the only issue, I have no problem with that.
4. Anything else I should know?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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TheLastCanadian said:
Of the phone, not the screen, I want the screen dimensions and I'd rather have avoided having to do algebra to get it. I checked GSMarena already. I did get some of the more obvious things like Benchmarks out of the way, along with photos, but I don't trust the interface to remain the same on a generic branding.... I wanted to see it specifically on this phone, and every review I've found, if they even address such things, only offers brief flash of the root menus.
One thing I would really like to know it's almost certain the reviews don't touch upon.... how is the hitbox for the capacitive buttons? I have a BLU Pure XL too, and those are extremely narrow, it's quite annoying.
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Standard size hitbox, warriors rogues dks should still stay behind the boss, ranged attacks should still be made from max range 30-40 yrds.
Used screen size is 126mm x 71mm. Will answer more when I can, not had it long.
Well, I bit.
The Axon 7 is nice, but if we're being realistic I mostly just use my phone for web browsing anyway. Paying $513 for that doesn't make much sense when I can get similar specs for $270. We'll see. Worst case scenario I suffer with it for a while and then just buy a flagship when my cheap ass finally learns its lesson.
TheLastCanadian said:
Well, I bit.
The Axon 7 is nice, but if we're being realistic I mostly just use my phone for web browsing anyway. Paying $513 for that doesn't make much sense when I can get similar specs for $270. We'll see. Worst case scenario I suffer with it for a while and then just buy a flagship when my cheap ass finally learns its lesson.
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I've been in your camp 1.5 years ago. Coming from Xperia, I said I want to buy a cheap one until a good flagship comes out. And so I bought the Le 1s, a 200$ phone when it just came out. I have to say that I was impressed that I can do whatever I need with it with so much ease, and it doesn't have to cost a kidney.
However, when Le Max2 came out, I ordered it immediately and handed over the 1s to my mom who is still using it without problems as we speak.
The interface is the same, I can tell you that there are no big differences, so if you will google the interface of any LeEco phone, it will be the same as on Max2 as far as I'm concerned.
The screen is a bit bigger than on the 5.5" phones and thus the footprint is taller and wider. Somehow a little difficult to sit with it in the front pocket. I remove it when driving, sitting at the table, most of the times I forget to take it out when I'm putting my shoes on and I do feel it.
Should I ask, why not go for the Pro3 when it has a bigger battery, FHD 5.5" screen, better CPU? The difference between FHD and QHD were tested with a photo taken from a mirrorless camera and it turned out it's very hard to spot the better sharpness on Max2 than on Le 1s.
I would go for the Pro3 now but my dad is yet to get used to touchscreen phones, so I'll keep it a bit more.
Considering the price/ what you get, as of now, I'd still go with LeEco anytime. The thing to keep in mind is to order it 2-3-4 months after release because the price would have dropped significantly.
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I've been in your camp 1.5 years ago. Coming from Xperia, I said I want to buy a cheap one until a good flagship comes out. And so I bought the Le 1s, a 200$ phone when it just came out. I have to say that I was impressed that I can do whatever I need with it with so much ease, and it doesn't have to cost a kidney.
However, when Le Max2 came out, I ordered it immediately and handed over the 1s to my mom who is still using it without problems as we speak.
The interface is the same, I can tell you that there are no big differences, so if you will google the interface of any LeEco phone, it will be the same as on Max2 as far as I'm concerned.
The screen is a bit bigger than on the 5.5" phones and thus the footprint is taller and wider. Somehow a little difficult to sit with it in the front pocket. I remove it when driving, sitting at the table, most of the times I forget to take it out when I'm putting my shoes on and I do feel it.
Should I ask, why not go for the Pro3 when it has a bigger battery, FHD 5.5" screen, better CPU? The difference between FHD and QHD were tested with a photo taken from a mirrorless camera and it turned out it's very hard to spot the better sharpness on Max2 than on Le 1s.
I would go for the Pro3 now but my dad is yet to get used to touchscreen phones, so I'll keep it a bit more.
Considering the price/ what you get, as of now, I'd still go with LeEco anytime. The thing to keep in mind is to order it 2-3-4 months after release because the price would have dropped significantly.
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My brother has a OP3T, and while I won't say there's anything inherently wrong with 1080, I can definitely see a difference in images on my 2K Blu Pure XL. I need a phone that has ROMs available, as I really don't trust the Chinese to design a non-garbage OS, and a major part of the allure for the Le Max 2 was the 5.7" screen. I'd have taken just shy of six if I could've gotten it, but alas, some compromises must be made.
It'd also be simple insanity to argue against a $270 price point on a phone that people say isn't inherently flawed (aka: not garbage). The axon 7 costs $513, for services/components I'm unlikely to use (I rarely put anything on phone speakers, and rooting would void their warranty anyway - plus, I take impeccable care of my devices).
Then go for it if you're into a bigger screen. 270 cad will sure be a cheap purchase but I do suggest to go for 4/64 version for few bucks more. I have 4/32 and after transferring some pictures from my camera, keeping some ROMs, apps, having my own pictures in, looks like some 4-5 GB left. I'd have to clean to use multirom Also go for the Grey version as the Rose Gold is too pinkish depending upon the light, but it's mostly pink...
To keep it short:
Pros:
- big screen
- sufficient RAM and a very good CPU
- easy to tinker with
- USB C
- Dual SIM
- cheap
- practically unbrickable
Cons:
- somehow twistable up to some extent, but nothing major; you can bend it back with your own hands, and had never been an issue
- quite large for the pocket
- camera could've been better
This is my opinion about the Max2. I would buy it again if you'd ask me
valy_cta said:
Then go for it if you're into a bigger screen. 270 cad will sure be a cheap purchase but I do suggest to go for 4/64 version for few bucks more. I have 4/32 and after transferring some pictures from my camera, keeping some ROMs, apps, having my own pictures in, looks like some 4-5 GB left. I'd have to clean to use multirom Also go for the Grey version as the Rose Gold is too pinkish depending upon the light, but it's mostly pink...
To keep it short:
Pros:
- big screen
- sufficient RAM and a very good CPU
- easy to tinker with
- USB C
- Dual SIM
- cheap
- practically unbrickable
Cons:
- somehow twistable up to some extent, but nothing major; you can bend it back with your own hands, and had never been an issue
- quite large for the pocket
- camera could've been better
This is my opinion about the Max2. I would buy it again if you'd ask me
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Do you know if they make this in a gold (yellow) colour?
I cancelled my order because while the images and colour description said "Golden", their chat reps insisted it would be Rose Gold, which doesn't do it for me.
They do have Gold (as they call it Force Gold) which is like normal yellow version. The other Gold is Rose Gold.
Do search for "Force Gold" color.
The news is that the leading manufacturers including LG are moving to notched screens.
I think the G6 screen is perfect as is. IMHO the notch is stupid and will be a passing gimmick
Let's hear people's opinions
jshames said:
The news is that the leading manufacturers including LG are moving to notched screens.
I think the G6 screen is perfect as is. IMHO the notch is stupid and will be a passing gimmick
Let's hear people's opinions
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Good thing that I won't buy a new smartphone for another ~2 years so I will miss this "trend".
The seeming motivation for the notch is being able to have an edge to edge screen. Firstly, that in itself is just a gimmick, a style like high heels. Screens are big enough and devices are small enough for people. Who care about an extra 3mm of screen? Second, the notch ruins the screen. For all intents and purposes, the "wings" on the side of the notch are useless except for icons. If you view anything else full screen you either need a black band to keep the rectangular image, or some of the image gets blocked by the notch.
What blockhead thought of this???
And that's not even touching the subject of why a sane person would pay Apple 1200 dollars for a cellphone, which they're replace with the next gimmick in 2 years. But that's not the subject here...
I don't mind the notch myself, probably because I don't use my phone for much full-screen stuff. I do prefer the small one of the Essential though.
I am sure manufacturers are working hard on ways to maximize screen-to-body ratio (which is a real consumer desire even though not everyone cares about it) without needing notches and in a few years they will be as common as physical keyboards (and I also think, despite the current outcry, that wired headphone jacks will soon seem quaint and not too long after that, so will wired charging).
In the meantime, while I'm sure there will be many notch-free designs, there will also be many notched ones and general consumers will buy them as long as they come from Samsung and Apple or look like they do.
Personally I could completely live without a front-facing camera, which would reduce the notch problem a lot, but I think that one is around forever.
Just a gimmick to copy the iphone. I absolutely hated the huge bezels on my Nexus 6P but the bezels on my G6 don't bother me at all.
Gimmicks. Gimmicks all around.
Hopefully this G6 lasts me until the notch trend dies off.
small bezels are the way to go imho. It depends on what we use our devices for, but as long as a lot of media has certain standard formats, it makes sense that our screens have that format too..
To my eyes balance and symmetry are important for good visual design. Notches destroy that completely.. It might look ok with a UI that is specifically designed around those notches. But as soon as you watch something on youtube it becomes awkward, same goes for 18:9 aspect ratio btw.
What really astonishes me though, is the fact that android manufacturers now start to copy that FLAW of the essential phone/iphone X. It's totally obvious that Apple wanted to make a all-screen phone and they FAILED. They had to compromise and settled for an awkward solution with the notch. Nobody buys the iphone X because of the notch... You accept and live with it because the rest is great. Nobody will look at the Huawei P20 or LG G7 and say: "wow that notch. I need that." (same goes for headphone jack btw)
I bought the a G6 a few weeks ago because my 2 year old Huawei P9 broke and i got a good deal. The G6 is already a year old but design wise it's still one of the best phones out there imho. Everything else has become really awkward with notches, rounded edges, missing features, bad materials... It's a mess. I just hope people will vote with their wallet - it's the only way the companies will realize that what they're trying to sell is not what people want.
Maybe there's hope https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-v35-6-inch-oled-display-without-display-notch/
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Just a gimmick to copy the iphone. I absolutely hated the huge bezels on my Nexus 6P but the bezels on my G6 don't bother me at all.
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I actually don't mind bezels, at least not on the top and bottom, and I think the Nexus 6p is still a beautiful phone today. Anyone else agree?
Rate this thread to express how you think the Xiaomi Mi A2 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm going to give the material/build quality a 7 out of 10. It's definitely nothing I can complain about at this price point. The body itself looks and feels great. The buttons are a little too clicky and protruding for my liking. Camera also sticking out too far, but that's fair considering how slim the phone is. My biggest turn off, might be just pertaining to my device. But I get a slight rattle when setting the phone down. Maybe just the vibrating motor, maybe it's because there was no protection in the packaging mine shipped in. To me 7 out of 10 in a $250 phone with these specs is incredible overall.
When you set the phone down, it wobbles because of the camera bump which should not have happened as other device don't have this issue.
Xiaomi really missed an opportunity here
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I'm going to give the material/build quality a 7 out of 10. It's definitely nothing I can complain about at this price point. The body itself looks and feels great. The buttons are a little too clicky and protruding for my liking. Camera also sticking out too far, but that's fair considering how slim the phone is. My biggest turn off, might be just pertaining to my device. But I get a slight rattle when setting the phone down. Maybe just the vibrating motor, maybe it's because there was no protection in the packaging mine shipped in. To me 7 out of 10 in a $250 phone with these specs is incredible overall.
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Happy to hear that I`m not the only one with these kind of "problems". My device also rattles a lot when laying it down on whatever kind of solid surface or sometimes even when gently tapping it with your fingers. It sounds like there´s something about to break apart on the inside, which drives me crazy .
I´ve already contacted my seller, assuming that something inside my device is loose or that the vibration-motor is damaged. They replied that it would be normal and that the noise would be caused by the auto-focus. I´d love to hear if there are even more A2 users facing this issue or if I unluckily received a faulty device.
Using the volume- or unlock-buttons also takes way to much force and is way too noisy in my opinion.
In addition to that, the oleophobic coating of the device is very weak if not even non-existent. Fingerprints are visible after very short usage can hardly be removed.
I won`t even complain about design mistakes like the camera bump or the fake stereo-speakers on the bottom of the device, as these are things you should consider before buying.
To me that makes up for no more than 5/10, irrespective of the phone`s great performance.
Maybe I expected to much from a 240€ phone, but comparing it to a Moto G6 there is plenty of room for improvement on the quality side.
Evaluating just the use of materials I would rate the phone at a solid 9.0/10.
Sole gripe is the aluminum back, which didn't get any treatment to be less slippery (it's really an hazard if you use it "naked" -- like I do).
There are plenty of other issues which are not about use of materials, but do show lower quality standards in some regards. For instance, the speakers punch insane volumes, but the quality is very far from top tier flagships (which should be a surprise to none, as this is a much cheaper phone). Call quality does suffer due to this, at least just from our side (listening). The luminosity sensor could also be better, not sure if it's just software or poor hardware. Button feel is stiff and solid like other top premium devices, don't know what people are complaining there. Fingerprint sensor does tend to be slower than the top tier (emphasis on the relative comparison -er, as it's not slow by any absolute means, just slower)
If you want to evaluate design, the larger bezels are also a pretty clear give-away this isn't flagship material. The huge camera bump is also a design choice that annoys a lot of people (motivated by the fact that module wouldn't fit otherwise, but a design choice to make the phone stupidly slim nonetheless).
My assessment of the phone is very good, chiefly because it costs less than €250 for the 4GB/64GB model (which I have).
You can't really expect miracles, there is a reason why the other phones are more expensive.
The compromises made in the A2 make it retain most of the apparent feel of a much premium device -- so much so that, when a call arrives, I am disappointed to be reminded by the speakers that this is a very good €250 phone; not a €1000+ flaghip.
alexris99 said:
Happy to hear that I`m not the only one with these kind of "problems". My device also rattles a lot when laying it down on whatever kind of solid surface or sometimes even when gently tapping it with your fingers. It sounds like there´s something about to break apart on the inside, which drives me crazy .
I´ve already contacted my seller, assuming that something inside my device is loose or that the vibration-motor is damaged. They replied that it would be normal and that the noise would be caused by the auto-focus. I´d love to hear if there are even more A2 users facing this issue or if I unluckily received a faulty device.
Using the volume- or unlock-buttons also takes way to much force and is way too noisy in my opinion.
In addition to that, the oleophobic coating of the device is very weak if not even non-existent. Fingerprints are visible after very short usage can hardly be removed.
I won`t even complain about design mistakes like the camera bump or the fake stereo-speakers on the bottom of the device, as these are things you should consider before buying.
To me that makes up for no more than 5/10, irrespective of the phone`s great performance.
Maybe I expected to much from a 240€ phone, but comparing it to a Moto G6 there is plenty of room for improvement on the quality side.
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Hi, even my MI A2 when placed down on a flat surface makes a metallic noise/vibration, as if there was something not fixed properly near camera.
With my previous Moto G4 I did not have this problem, at the moment I'm not sure whether to keep the MI A2 or send it back despite being very satisfied with all the other aspects.
Has anyone noticed differences with cover?
Is this defect also present on other phones?
Everyone has that rattle when shaking the phone or laying it down, apparently it has something to dok with the camera, there is a thread about it. The phone has a very good build quality, at this price point incredible. The bump bothers me a bit but since they copied the iPhone it doesn't feel cheap.
Just received a MI a2 and it seems to have very good build quality for a $250 phone and works fine so far. Of course I am not a fan of the cam bump but still a good phone 8.5 of 10.
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Looks like Huawei out did Samsung in a bif way.
The display of Huawei Mate X doesn't seem to be as solid as Samsung's. The Fold's hinge mechanism seems superior too.
Mate X totally win in terms of size, thinness and functionality of the unfolded screen. But it fold outwards though, the thought of screen resting on the surface the whole time just doesn't seem promising.
Both have problems, the fold is too thick, my opinion is the outer screen looks cheap and doesn't cover the full length, whiles it does give protection to the inner screen, the mate X, out screen is easier to break or get scratched, better design and thin.
Either way, those who purchase it are lab rat, testing it for Samsung and Huawei for future released, i'd rather just purchase a top of the range smartphone and a tablet, two separate units.
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Looks like Huawei out did Samsung in a bif way.
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I actually like Samsung's design more. I like the one hand functionality of the front display. They could have increase it to 5.3inch but 4.6 will do for me. Also the infold design protects that inner display more.
Huawei design is more of a tablet. Samsung is a bit of both worlds phone and tablet.
May the Fold be with You
https://twitter.com/lordvader/status/1102861901229375489
I've been debating which is the better phone for the past month, and I've decided that for me it's the Galaxy Fold.
The Huawei has been designed upside down for starters. With a flexible plastic display on the outside, having the fold on the left and the "lump" on the right is terrible. surely you'd want to minimise anything touching the display more than needed? And when it's unfolded, surely as most people are right handed that lump should be held in your left hand so that you can navigate more easily with your right hand? And the fact that you can't use it for video calling in tablet mode is a bit bad.
I've seen others question whether you can take selfies on the Fold using the rear camera while it's unfolded using the smaller display, so we'll have to wait and see for that one, but I'm fairly sure it's just a software issue if it's not available at launch. And whilst I don't like notches or big bezels much, as a hybrid device I think it's something that I could deal with.
It's pretty likely I'm going to get the Fold at this point and keep the Note 9 for those times when I need a smaller phone. The only things I need to work out is what kind of cradle to get for it to use in a car, and what kind of compact keyboard/stand option to go for to use it with OneNote as I'll likely start using it a lot more and not take the Surface Go out and about as much.
When I travel I take my phone, a Kindle, and the Surface Go. This could potentially reduce that all down to a single device, so it would be a great travel companion for me.
I wonder if there is a useable keyboard on the outside screen or you need to open it to type. That outside screen is only 3 icons wide.
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larsdennert said:
I wonder if there is a useable keyboard on the outside screen or you need to open it to type. That outside screen is only 3 icons wide.
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It's probably a similar size to an iPhone 4 display, and for years everyone was happily using displays of that size.
I like about this Phone : Huawei Mate X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndwAZVTBnuE
i like Huawei more but hardware and software is bad.
plus you can't unlock bootloader on Huawei anymore (new ones). So basically you getting a phone with foldable lags.
Samsung recalls Galaxy Fold review samples, postpones launch after slew of issues
https://www.rt.com/business/457315-samsung-postpones-galaxy-fold-launch/
Well, that's the end of the fold. Let's wait for the fold FE.
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So you think having a fragile plastic display on the outside of the phone where it can be scratched, nicked, and dinged constantly is going to be practical and durable? The Mate X is going to be a disaster in its own right with many but different issues than the Fold. And at a price $600 higher. Huawei execs have said they've rejected Samsung's approach to go the way they did. We'll see who laughs last because both phones are vaporware until they are in consumer's hands without major issues.
In terms of which is more practical, an "innie" or an "outie," considering the display is plastic and somewhat fragile I'd go with the former like Samsung did. The outie is more logical from a usability and design perspective but the innie leaves the screen far more protected. Does anyone here not think that the thin plastic display on either phone is fragile and the biggest challenge to design around? Until bendable glass is a thing foldable phones are going to be variations of compromise with durability being the weakest link.
It's interesting to me that the Huawei is possible and the largest hope I have that the Sammy may hold up better than expected. You have to figure Huawei believes they can get the vast majority to the end of the warranty period or it wouldn't be coming to market. How they are expecting this to survive with a relatively soft external wrap-around screen is beyond me. I'm rooting for them though, I'm going to be pretty happy if they both turn out to work. It's genuinely exciting; so much past the usual (lately) meh phone upgrade where you have a 1/2 larger screen, a couple extra pixels, etc.
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So you think having a fragile plastic display on the outside of the phone where it can be scratched, nicked, and dinged constantly is going to be practical and durable? The Mate X is going to be a disaster in its own right with many but different issues than the Fold. And at a price $600 higher. Huawei execs have said they've rejected Samsung's approach to go the way they did. We'll see who laughs last because both phones are vaporware until they are in consumer's hands without major issues.
In terms of which is more practical, an "innie" or an "outie," considering the display is plastic and somewhat fragile I'd go with the former like Samsung did. The outie is more logical from a usability and design perspective but the innie leaves the screen far more protected. Does anyone here not think that the thin plastic display on either phone is fragile and the biggest challenge to design around? Until bendable glass is a thing foldable phones are going to be variations of compromise with durability being the weakest link.
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We'll know the quality of Mate X's screen when reviewers get their hands on the sample in June.
Don't know who will have the last laugh but the first definitely goes to the Fold.
It doesn't matter whether the screen face in or out when plastic screen is used, durability will be low. The Fold will fare better if you use it completely as a folded phone.
You may not remember but mobile used plastic screen before glass screen became the standard. Plastic screen for foldable phone is a phase. Like you mentioned, screen durability issues will probably be solved in the future with bendable glass.
Take screen durability out of the equation, who has the better design? I'll let you decide yourself.
I'll wait for reports from reviewers in June.
LENOVO
Someone should change the title of this thread to "Huawei Mate X boat sunk by U.S. Government." A $2,600 phone without an ecosystem doesn't sound very appealing.