Related
A coworker of mine just bought an Xperia X10a and is off the Germany for work she sent me a txt asking me to get her the unlock code and also to tell her if it will work in 3G while in Germany.. from what I can tell from the specs I think so.. but I thought best to ask the experts here. I know there is a X10a and a X10i I need to know if her X10a will get her 3G in Germany before I get the unlock code.
*edit* code is 6.00 is it would not be a total loss if it did not work..
thanks
So no one knows? or was it a silly q?
I don't know what services are available in Germany or what firmware you are putting on, but if it is available, it should still work. Debranding and unlocking don't take away the capability as long as it was available in that firmware and service is available in your area.
Stryker777 said:
I don't know what services are available in Germany or what firmware you are putting on, but if it is available, it should still work. Debranding and unlocking don't take away the capability as long as it was available in that firmware and service is available in your area.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you.. I was hoping to hear that! I know my k850i was able to get 3g in Germany Italy and France.. so I was hoping her xperia x10 would be fine.
You need to have carrier frequencies to use the 3G. has nothing to do with the firmware but only the hardware.
10a are on 850/1900 and 10i on 900/1700/2100
Nimche said:
You need to have carrier frequencies to use the 3G. has nothing to do with the firmware but only the hardware.
10a are on 850/1900 and 10i on 900/1700/2100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's right, 3G on the X10a won't work in Europe, or most of the rest of the world.
A little rant: Why do the US insist on always changing something instead of using the international standard? I can see no advantage in that to either their citizens or foreign travelers that visit the US. Just to mention a few: only 3 countries in the world don't use the metric system (US, Liberia and Myanmar), the cellphone bands are standard pretty much everywhere else, most countries have 220v energy (though the plugs vary in format you don't need a transformer). It's a bit like the English driving on the left side. It benefits no one.
pco.vaz said:
That's right, 3G on the X10a won't work in Europe, or most of the rest of the world.
A little rant: Why do the US insist on always changing something instead of using the international standard? I can see no advantage in that to either their citizens or foreign travelers that visit the US. Just to mention a few: only 3 countries in the world don't use the metric system (US, Liberia and Myanmar), the cellphone bands are standard pretty much everywhere else, most countries have 220v energy (though the plugs vary in format you don't need a transformer). It's a bit like the English driving on the left side. It benefits no one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Historical. Also, check how the Japanese do things. Talk about being totally different.
Nimche said:
You need to have carrier frequencies to use the 3G. has nothing to do with the firmware but only the hardware.
10a are on 850/1900 and 10i on 900/1700/2100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The X10a has UMTS 850/1900/2100, it will work on 3G in Germany (2100)
pco.vaz said:
That's right, 3G on the X10a won't work in Europe, or most of the rest of the world
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it will on 2100. Very few countries in Europe and Asia have the 900 or 1700 3G bands and definitely not exclusively, they all have 2100 3G.
charlyee said:
The X10a has UMTS 850/1900/2100, it will work on 3G in Germany (2100)Yes, it will on 2100. Very few countries in Europe and Asia have the 900 or 1700 3G bands and definitely not exclusively, they all have 2100 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right, For more information in general of band for your country please refer to this map.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Thank you Charlyee for clarifying this.
Damn, germany keeps poppin up and all i think of is porn. Argh...
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
The other thing your friend will need to check is that they have international data roaming available and also a LARGE bank account lol
She has my vodafone sim so roaming is not a problem. She is at a spa for the weekend so I can not report back but AFAIK it should be fine. I think she may want it debranded so i am thinking to debrand mine and just ship it to her as she will be there for a while. yeah I am good like that! So the consensus is it will work just fine?!
Rockjock007 said:
She has my vodafone sim so roaming is not a problem. She is at a spa for the weekend so I can not report back but AFAIK it should be fine. I think she may want it debranded so i am thinking to debrand mine and just ship it to her as she will be there for a while. yeah I am good like that! So the consensus is it will work just fine?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I believe so.
Hi guys!
My first post ever here so please forgive the noobiness and the perhaps many q's..
A friend is in the US & can hopefully bring me this monster of a phone to Germany next week; I just called an AT&T shop though and the (very helpful I have to admit) rep said that they will not be selling them unlocked and cannot unlock them, expected I guess. Now a couple of q's:
- Will it first of all function in Europe?
- How difficult is it going to be to remove the sim lock so I can use my German o2 sim card in it?
- I suppose it will have loads of AT&T and Motorola software on it but how intrusive are they at the end of the day, can't you install LauncherPro for example?
I currently have an unrooted Nexus One & was just about to order the Nexus S but the Atrix is just too good to not buy.
Thanks for all help you guys provide through the forums!!
It will not function without an unlock code. You can remove all the at&t bloatware. Yes you can install launcher pro over motoblur. The difficulty of unlocking the phone really depends. Usually you can pay a few dollars to some website to unlock it.
edgeicator said:
It will not function without an unlock code. You can remove all the at&t bloatware. Yes you can install launcher pro over motoblur. The difficulty of unlocking the phone really depends. Usually you can pay a few dollars to some website to unlock it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many thanks!
Vangelis13 said:
Many thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please visit this thread i made yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11496757
i'm making a list of various unlocking sites , to see which ones can sell us the codes.
Any contributions are welcome
How well would a US bought Atrix work in Europe ? Will it operate across all GSM/3G frequencies or have some limitations ? The reason I ask is as I've seen some threads where they talk about a gsm version of the Atrix, but AT&T do operate with a gsm setup ... ?
mrabcx said:
How well would a US bought Atrix work in Europe ? Will it operate across all GSM/3G frequencies or have some limitations ? The reason I ask is as I've seen some threads where they talk about a gsm version of the Atrix, but AT&T do operate with a gsm setup ... ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From Wikipedia:
Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia
In Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia most of the providers use 900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands. GSM-900 is most widely used. Fewer operators use DCS-1800 and GSM-1800. A dual-band 900/1800 phone is required to be compatible with almost all operators. At least the GSM-900 band must be supported in order to be compatible with many operators.
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
henklbr said:
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The document I linked shows what each CSC actually stands for.
You can link it in the first post if you want.
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is brilliant. Thanks! Have been trying to find a complete, intelligible list for a few days now. Should have started at XDA of course ...
Small correction: XEH stands for Hungarian unlocked only, Vodafone, Telenor and T-Mobile all have their own CSC codes (VDH, PAN and TMH, respectively - PAN because Telenor used to be Pannon GSM Hungary).
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
Almighty1 said:
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
Sent from my G8142
murtaza02 said:
Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
Almighty1 said:
Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
murtaza02 said:
That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
Almighty1 said:
Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well actually, Samsung locked everyone out so it doesn't really matter which variant you have, both the N950U (carrier variants) and N950U1 (unlocked variants) have locked bootloaders.
All of them should work fine outside the US when roaming, wouldn't really recommend it if you live outside the US though.
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
Almighty1 said:
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is correct. Chinese variant and Korean variants have the most storage options while the rest of the world is left with 64GB only.
Sent from my G8142
Hi,
I would like to buy this device which has become unavailable in Europe. So I should get an unlocked US version (AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile), I just have no idea what LTE bands they have, nor how it works for updates for these variants.
Thanks to anyone who wants to help this noob
4ngl09669 said:
Hi,
I would like to buy this device which has become unavailable in Europe. So I should get an unlocked US version (AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile), I just have no idea what LTE bands they have, nor how it works for updates for these variants.
Thanks to anyone who wants to help this noob
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check out this link:. https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=6216
I would imagine your would get updates on the schedule of the service provider that it originally was sold from. Updates from providers are usually behind factory unlocked versions. I would see if I could find one that was an international unlocked version.
scienceguylabs said:
Check out this link:. https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=6216
I would imagine your would get updates on the schedule of the service provider that it originally was sold from. Updates from providers are usually behind factory unlocked versions. I would see if I could find one that was an international unlocked version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THX!
The version most similar to the international version is the Canadian, precisely Lmv600tm2x (from what I understand)
4ngl09669 said:
THX!
The version most similar to the international version is the Canadian, precisely Lmv600tm2x (from what I understand)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't look like LG released an international model of the phone. I found a few on eBay that started they were unlocked and would work internationally though.
scienceguylabs said:
It doesn't look like LG released an international model of the phone. I found a few on eBay that started they were unlocked and would work internationally though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, in fact he did not release them, unfortunately. They are all connected to some telephone operator ... However, the Canadian model has almost all global bands, which (it seems) the US models do not have.
Does anyone have an authoritative link or source for the different S23 ultra regional model variants and their respective bandwidth frequencies such as for 4g and 5g?
Can't find this information for any including the USA variant eg which specific frequencies of 4g and 5g does the USA model support?
The chipset and x70 modem makes it possible for this phone to truly be a global phone but.....
asking the same as well, cant find these details.
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
jcsww said:
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure it will be the same to unlock the bands, no one will really know until they have one in hand.
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
evangelionpunk said:
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
forum.xda-developers.com
jcsww said:
This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
forum.xda-developers.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
evangelionpunk said:
Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OS updates from Samsung are never fast. Doing so once every 2 to 3 months isn't so bad for the extra band support.
Samsung's modem software works well for the US and Canada because the hardware is the same and only the modem software separates the bands based on carrier/region. Due to the wide spread of mess across North America, US and Canadian models are always a good choice for potential band support. In some cases though, mixed ROM's can also bridge the support. In the S9 days, you could.jeep.the base.for.your region but flash the carrier side of the firmware to unlock band 71 on some overseas models. I don't know if this is still possible today but with all devices being very similar. I am hoping the hardware, including dual-SIM pins on the main board, will be there to enable through a firmware change or mod.
Do we know if the international dual sim variant has the same USA hardware based on s22/21/20?
Does it have mmwave baked in but just disabled by software?
I am still not clear what 5G bands are supported on the SM-S918BZKPEUB, nor if unlocking the bands through the service menu works. @UK S23, your deliveries are in place already, has anyone tried?
It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
evangelionpunk said:
It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
jcsww said:
Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
evangelionpunk said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
jcsww said:
I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've read that the US and CA models are basically identical so that might explain it. It's also possible I suppose that in s23 since it uses x70 modem, which has native support built in, that all model variants might be able to do it but for software. Though we won't know for sure till someone from different region goes into their service menu and checks.
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
EtherealRemnant said:
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
evangelionpunk said:
Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
EtherealRemnant said:
Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
evangelionpunk said:
Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. There are 5 different models of iPhone 14 Pro Max, for example, and each will have different band configurations.
That said, the NA models have the most complete bands of any device released so far this year and it was released last year with an older modem. They even have support for Dish Network's n70, a band exclusive to them worldwide, something Samsung didn't even choose to support on their NA variant this year despite having a contract with Dish for radio equipment supporting that band.
I actually think the NA iPhone 14 Pro models support every commercially available band worldwide but I don't really keep up on bands not used in the US.
iPhone 14 Pro Max Model Number A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, A2895 Differences - TechWalls
The iPhone 14 Pro Max comes in 5 model numbers, which are A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, and A2895. Let's check out their differences and all the part numbers.
www.techwalls.com