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(FlashKDZ/Root/Recovery/Hiddenmenu/troubleshooting) (noob2noob guide)
Okay, this is my first thread on XDA, the reason I'm making it is there is a lots of problems with progressing to lollipop. All of this is already mentioned in the forum, but this way it is much easier since it is all at one place. If I'm doing something wrong please warn me with explanation how to resolve the issue. If I'm posting in wrong forum section please move my thread where it is supposed to be.
1. Before doing anything check if your phone is ready to get updated:
1.1 Do you have a stock Kitkat rom or at least a rom that is kitkat based, since there can be a problem with partitioning if custom lollipop rom is installed
1.2 Create a backup. Don't be lazy LG backups will not help you since they can't go from kitkat to lollipop, don't try to do it from recovery because you will lose custom recovery. Copy your files from phone including extracted contacts, and back it up online with google or some other backup providers.
1.3 Check if you have a latest touch firmware, because you might have a problems after installing lollipop and it will be hard for you to check for updates since your touch might become useless.
1.3.1 To check it go to hidden service menu by typing 3845#*802# and go under HW Device Test, then Touch Test then touch firmware version and write everything down. After that go to touch firmware upgrade and after 15 seconds compare the touch firmware version values with those you written down.
1.4 In hidden Menu you can also go to wlan test then ota setting to check if it is disabled on your phone. After that check again if there is OTA updates for your phone, and also check if there is PC suite Update.
1.5 Check your phones version if it is D802, D800 or something else, and check which rom you have installed. You can do this in settings about phone or if you are happy about hidden menu found, go there and into settings then version info. This might not be interesting or fun to do, but it will save you the trouble if something goes wrong, because you will know what to ask.
1.6 Last but not the least, before starting to flash fill up your battery, i've read some posts that say there are problems with wrong capacity shown, and a lots of battery drain problems, and only solution till now is to have a full battery on start.
2. You will need LG FlashTool and of course installed drivers for your G2 on your PC.
All of that you can get in the thread by @quangnhut123 .
2.1 Just a bit of precautions, don't forget to always copy a kdz file in to Flashtool folder and then start a tool. All should look the same as in that thread, except you should always use CSE method because with this method you will install kdz from scratch, removing everything from the phone.
2.2 You should find the kdz file which suits for your phone on site . You can check for kdz by typing in imei in check new firmware section or find the one for yourself by searching the site. v30a is lollipop open while v30d is for branded G2's.
(I've read that this site is not allowed by Xda moderators, so if I can't post it please give me info on where should we download kdz's from).
2.3 I think it's all pure logic now but lets say it one more time. You have downloaded kdz file, and put it inside LG Flashtool folder. You should now start Flashtool and get your phone into Download mode. To do this you need to hold volume up button on turned off device and connect usb cable while holding volume up. Now just cse flash.
2/3 This is troubleshooting step, if you have a problem ask and i hope this great community will help you like they did to me, and ofc I will do my best to help.
3. Now we go to rooting.
Here is the thread by @avicohh which worked for my D802.
Just follow his step by step tut and you will have a rooted phone
3.1 The only issue that might happen here is you are stuck with # and adb waiting for your phone. To resolve this just go into download mode manually.
4. Okay rooting done, now let's go to custom recovery install
It's easy as installing an app from google play by @bender_007
4.1 After installing it open the app and follow the on-screen instructions. If it fails for the first time, try it few more times, it will eventually work. (OFC. I didn't install it with only one try).
4.2 To get into custom recovery hold volume down and power button till first LG sign shows up, then release both buttons and quickly press them again. It will ask you do you want to do factory reset, press yes and yes again, and it will get you to custom recovery if you installed it.
4.2.1 If you factory reset your phone that means you didn't install recovery correctly and you will lose your data, but again that should be no problem since you have that backup from the start.
Now optional steps:
5. Install system app remover to remove bloatware from your phone. You can do it manually but this way you will have those apps backed up.
6. Next suggestion is to install a few mods if you need them. In my case I had to have a Plug and pop, since it is lost from Lollipop and I loved that feature. Here is a thread on how to install that mod by @p_a_r_s_a7
//That's all, if you have any questions feel free to ask, since there is no dumb questions, but also try to read carefully before//
Thanks to:
@quangnhut123
@avicohh
@p_a_r_s_a7
@bender_007
A lot of others whose names i can't remember. If anyone else needs to be mentioned PM me and i will add you in this section.
I will add pictures and stuff if needed
Thanks, good all-in-one thread, + easiest methods. Ill recommend it‚to others
This forum is such a mess that a thread like this is like a fresh breath of air. Every advice given on other threads references something that you should already know how it's done, or you should already have done to your phone in the past and have a certain version of it, or non-working tools that are only around for a few months until an update makes them unusable.
No wonder that most of the first-page topics, including pinned ones, have the word "brick" in the title. This should signal the forum moderators that something is wrong around here.
My phone is stock international sim-free G2, never rooted or otherwise modified and yet no one was able to offer a coherent solution of how to update to Lollipop, until your post.
So, thanks for this thread.
Thank you, that is exactly why i made the thread. Every one of those threads has everything explained, but you need to search theough 150 pages to understand how something is done. That's why i wanted to make a thread with all explanations made in a single post and to make it noob friendly since the worst thing that happens in other threads is answer like use a search you have it somewhere.
Hi,
Thanks for the thread. It really helps noobs like me, but I still have a couple of questions...
I was running Paranoid Android L rom with root, twrp and kk bootloader on My D802.
I didn't see this thread before I decided to downgrade back to 4.2.2 stock rom, and now I don't really know what steps to take.(I have kernel version 3..4.0 and build number JDQ39B)
I haven't seen an OTA available, so I was thinking of flashing new Lollipop rom kdz file. But I've been seeing stuff about using LG PC suite to upgrade via OTA so i wasn't sure.
So my main question is that do I do an OTA upgrade on my current 4.2.2 stock rom or do I download an official Lollipop rom? Can you give me a brief idea of the steps to take?
Thanks
seyio said:
Hi,
Thanks for the thread. It really helps noobs like me, but I still have a couple of questions...
I was running Paranoid Android L rom with root, twrp and kk bootloader on My D802.
I didn't see this thread before I decided to downgrade back to 4.2.2 stock rom, and now I don't really know what steps to take.(I have kernel version 3..4.0 and build number JDQ39B)
I haven't seen an OTA available, so I was thinking of flashing new Lollipop rom kdz file. But I've been seeing stuff about using LG PC suite to upgrade via OTA so i wasn't sure.
So my main question is that do I do an OTA upgrade on my current 4.2.2 stock rom or do I download an official Lollipop rom? Can you give me a brief idea of the steps to take?
Thanks
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Updating through pc suite or ota is the best way if it is available to you. Flashing kdz is the same thing but that is doing it manually while through pc auite nad ota is pretty much automatic. Anyways which ever way you decide to use be sure to fully charge your battery and factory reset acter the update. If you need anything else feel free to ask
[email protected]$o said:
Updating through pc suite or ota is the best way if it is available to you. Flashing kdz is the same thing but that is doing it manually while through pc auite nad ota is pretty much automatic. Anyways which ever way you decide to use be sure to fully charge your battery and factory reset acter the update. If you need anything else feel free to ask
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Do I flash KK bootloader or root before I update through ota?
seyio said:
Do I flash KK bootloader or root before I update through ota?
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No need to flash bootloader if you didnt flash it for paranoid android. And definitely no need to root since you can root after update.
Problems with flashing KDZ
I have downloaded Spain Lolipop KDZ file for LG G2 D802.
Have backed up everything usint TWRP> ( Presently on Optimus G3 rom v 1.4.1 with dorimanx kernel and TWRP )
I have copied the KDZ file to the flash tool. When i use CSE flash .. it takes me to the next page .. in which I click on Start which then opens up the LG Mobile support tool.
Then it shows detecting ur phone .. unpacking or extracting file .. after that shows software updating .. reaches 2 % and then shows error .. asks me to retry .
Do you know what I am doing wrong ? or the cause of this prob ?
http://i58.tinypic.com/15rk2eo.png
sankeerth24 said:
I have downloaded Spain Lolipop KDZ file for LG G2 D802.
Have backed up everything usint TWRP> ( Presently on Optimus G3 rom v 1.4.1 with dorimanx kernel and TWRP )
I have copied the KDZ file to the flash tool. When i use CSE flash .. it takes me to the next page .. in which I click on Start which then opens up the LG Mobile support tool.
Then it shows detecting ur phone .. unpacking or extracting file .. after that shows software updating .. reaches 2 % and then shows error .. asks me to retry .
Do you know what I am doing wrong ? or the cause of this prob ?
http://i58.tinypic.com/15rk2eo.png
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Had the same problem when flashing kitkat kdz. Are you sure that you have pasted kdzfile inside flashtool. If that is not the problem try other kdz. That helped me
Where are you from and more specifically whhere your phone is from so i can maybe help you with finding right kdz. And btw i think you might have a problem when trying to restore that backup so if you still can backup your phone manually or on the cloud.
[email protected]$o said:
Had the same problem when flashing kitkat kdz. Are you sure that you have pasted kdzfile inside flashtool. If that is not the problem try other kdz. That helped me
Where are you from and more specifically whhere your phone is from so i can maybe help you with finding right kdz. And btw i think you might have a problem when trying to restore that backup so if you still can backup your phone manually or on the cloud.
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I have restored the complete back up using TWRP .... Yes i have already pasted kdz in the same folder of flash tool...still no change .. now downloading D802 20H firmware to flash stock n den again try KDZ
I have seen that some guys who had the same problem resolved it with disconnecting from network
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sankeerth24 said:
I have restored the complete back up using TWRP .... Yes i have already pasted kdz in the same folder of flash tool...still no change .. now downloading D802 20H firmware to flash stock n den again try KDZ
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http://www.1x1a.com/fixlg-flash-tool-stuck-at-2.html
Or maybe try this. I havent tried it so i cant promise anything but if you want you can try. Hope it helps
[email protected]$o said:
No need to flash bootloader if you didnt flash it for paranoid android. And definitely no need to root since you can root after update.
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Hi again..
OTA update to Lollipop has failed on my D802, LG PC Suite only upgraded me from Android 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so can anyone help me out here?
Am I missing something for OTA update? If not, then which lollipop kdz can I download for my phone so that I can flash? I live in UK and i use a 3 UK sim if that helps
but also, In the process of trying to boot into my previously installed TWRP recovery, I discovered that i have been restored to stock recovery. I have rooted the phone, but just wanted to clarify: I flash custom recovery, then bootloader/kernel then lollipop kdz?
Thanks again
seyio said:
Hi again..
OTA update to Lollipop has failed on my D802, LG PC Suite only upgraded me from Android 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so can anyone help me out here?
Am I missing something for OTA update? If not, then which lollipop kdz can I download for my phone so that I can flash? I live in UK and i use a 3 UK sim if that helps
but also, In the process of trying to boot into my previously installed TWRP recovery, I discovered that i have been restored to stock recovery. I have rooted the phone, but just wanted to clarify: I flash custom recovery, then bootloader/kernel then lollipop kdz?
Thanks again
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I am not sure but i think that update for the uk didnt come out yet. so you can't update to lollipop yet via pc suite or ota. and you got it all wrong. first you flash lollipop kdz but you will have to try out few of them since official for uk didn't come out yet, after that you root, and then flash custom recovery.
and as previously you will be back to stock recovery after update. you have it all explained step by step in first post. i know it is a bit long but that is the best way, since i didn't want to write stuff like "you should know that" and so on. so just follow the first post and you will be happy, or wait for official uk update over the ota you will be happy too, and i guess it should come out in a month.
[email protected]$o said:
I am not sure but i think that update for the uk didnt come out yet. so you can't update to lollipop yet via pc suite or ota. and you got it all wrong. first you flash lollipop kdz but you will have to try out few of them since official for uk didn't come out yet, after that you root, and then flash custom recovery.
and as previously you will be back to stock recovery after update. you have it all explained step by step in first post. i know it is a bit long but that is the best way, since i didn't want to write stuff like "you should know that" and so on. so just follow the first post and you will be happy, or wait for official uk update over the ota you will be happy too, and i guess it should come out in a month.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll download all the lollipop kdz's and see which one of them works for me till the UK one comes out then I'll just do a normal flash over it.
But seriously, one month for the UK ota :crying: Right now, I don't even know which is worse: Google that takes forever to release updates with so many bugs, or Apple who generally release better stable updates but make older devices laggy...
Thanks again for all the help.
seyio said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll download all the lollipop kdz's and see which one of them works for me till the UK one comes out then I'll just do a normal flash over it.
But seriously, one month for the UK ota :crying: Right now, I don't even know which is worse: Google that takes forever to release updates with so many bugs, or Apple who generally release better stable updates but make older devices laggy...
Thanks again for all the help.
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its a good update, not that buggy, and be sure to fully charge your battery before the process. you should try europe open or something like that, but there is no german or uk release yet and some guys suspect it is slowed down because they found out bugs in other versions
After CSE Flashing my d802 with a 30a, it got stock on lg logo screen, then an android screen with "erasing" on bottom, then lg screen. I let it sit for 4 hrs but nothing happened. Im back to stock kitkat atm. A little help please.
fernievidal said:
After CSE Flashing my d802 with a 30a, it got stock on lg logo screen, then an android screen with "erasing" on bottom, then lg screen. I let it sit for 4 hrs but nothing happened. Im back to stock kitkat atm. A little help please.
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Where from is your phone? Are you sure you flashed right kdz? Did lollipop even turn off? DidCSE flashing finished sucessfully? I would like to help you, but i cant if you dont explainme what is your problem. I am not some pro who faced every error on every phoneso please explain a bit more
And i suppose that erasing screen could have been factory reset on stock recovery
[email protected]$o said:
Where from is your phone? Are you sure you flashed right kdz? Did lollipop even turn off? DidCSE flashing finished sucessfully? I would like to help you, but i cant if you dont explainme what is your problem. I am not some pro who faced every error on every phoneso please explain a bit more
And i suppose that erasing screen could have been factory reset on stock recovery
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I believe mine is an international version. Where it came from, well, I'm from the Philippines and I got my phone from a local telecom, Globe.
The flash tool said that it was successfully upgraded, but judging from the phone's behavior I think there's something wrong. My phone never started successfully, and I got stuck in the LG logo.
AMAZON VARIANT NOW SUPPORTED!
NO PC REQUIRED AT ALL FOR THIS TUTORIAL!
READ ME: I am not responsible for bricked/damaged devices from following this procedure. It should be safe, if done right on the supported models. This does not void your warranty, but it is soak test firmware, meaning that it is beta software, and might have bugs/issues. I haven't noticed any myself, however.
Alright, I am aware that there are already videos describing how to install Nougat, but this is a (fairly) easy to follow text tutorial.
Step 1: Make sure your running the latest Marshmallow.
Before you can install the Nougat update, you have to make sure that you are running the latest Marshmallow firmware for your device. If your phone is running the MPJ24.139-63 firmware, you are good to go. Anything lower, and you will have to update your firmware, either manually, or through the OTA checker.
HAVE A NEWER FIRMWARE? (OR AMAZON VARIANT)
I had a link to a Reddit user's guide to do this, but they have apparently deleted their account, so I'll link this guide from XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961
UPDATE: Download this file and flash it in recovery the same way that you install Nougat, to update to the latest Marshmallow firmware, if you are on anything lower than MPJ24.139-63: https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&confirm=mkUs&id=0BzpjDRtfDv8PdER0cml3VzRHZTA
Step 2: Download the Nougat OTA File.
Follow this link to download the Nougat OTA file: http://downloadmirror.co/Uq5/Blur_Version.24.31.64.athene.retail.en.US.zip
Step 3: Boot into Recovery.
You have to boot into recovery to sideload this OTA file. First, power off the device completely. When it is completely powered down, hold the Volume Down button, and then the power button, not letting go of either button, until an Android appears, with a bunch of text. You are now in Fastboot Mode. Press the Volume Down button until you see Recovery Mode, then hit the power button.
Step 4: Install.
Once you are in Recovery, you may see an Android logo again, with the text "No Command" below it. What you need to do here is hold the power button, and whilst holding the power button, press Volume Up, to access the menu. It is easy from here. You need to select the option to install update from SD Card, using the Volume buttons for navigation, and Power to select. From there, you find where you downloaded the BLUR_VERSION.24.31.64.ATHENE.RETAIL.EN.US.ZIP file, and select it. It will start installing the official Nougat OTA. Give it some time, upwards of 15 minutes to install. Once it has complete, simply select the Reboot system now option, and if all went well, you should see the "Android is upgrading" screen, and now you are running official Nougat soak test on your G4.
NOTES - The install may hang on the "Patching system image after verification." message. Give it around 5-10 minutes, it will eventually pass that stage.
I can't guarantee that this method will work on all G4 variants. I can confirm it works on a UK Retail XT1622, however.
This may make it harder to install the stable official Nougat when that releases worldwide, I am not sure yet if it affects the upgrade path to the stable firmware.
KNOWN ISSUES
I actually have not found any issues with this firmware yet, it appears VERY stable for a soak test build. If you have come across any, or need help, comment below.
COMPATIBLE MODELS
These models have said to have had success with this update.
XT1643 - Moto G4 Plus Dual-SIM (India)
XT1640 - Moto G4 Plus Dual-SIM (Brazil)
XT1642 - Moto G4 Plus
XT1622 - Moto G4
XT1626 - Moto G4 (India)
DOWNGRADE TO MM FOR OFFICIAL NOUGAT OTA WITHOUT BOOTLOADER UNLOCK
Follow this guide from the Moto G4 Plus XDA section to downgrade your G4 to Marshmallow to install the official Nougat OTA:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/install-official-firmware-soak-test-t3531296
Welp, can't apply the MPJ24.139-63 update on XT1621 lol
Does it work on the xt1625 non amazon, MPJ24.139-64 ?
traceable ? (sorry not good at this title thing)
Hey thanks for sharing this.
I just wanted to ask whether or not Motorola/their repair service will be able to tell if I applied this update (meaning if I roll back to older firmwear without unlocked bootloader), since I sent my Moto G4 in for a repair but apparently since it came back yesterday the issues came back.
So I just want to make sure whether I can try this without them blaming it on me "flashing unfinished software" once I'll send it back for a repair/replacement
Thanks in advance
Yoloswaggerboy69 said:
Hey thanks for sharing this.
I just wanted to ask whether or not Motorola/their repair service will be able to tell if I applied this update (meaning if I roll back to older firmwear without unlocked bootloader), since I sent my Moto G4 in for a repair but apparently since it came back yesterday the issues came back.
So I just want to make sure whether I can try this without them blaming it on me "flashing unfinished software" once I'll send it back for a repair/replacement
Thanks in advance
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They dont seem to care, they just reflash and send it back.
Rempala said:
They dont seem to care, they just reflash and send it back.
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Thanks a bunch
Cyberneticx said:
Does it work on the xt1625 non amazon, MPJ24.139-64 ?
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It does not. It checks your current firmware version and that one is too NEW. I have the same. I got this: http://i.imgur.com/ggmBiMZ.jpg
Cyberneticx said:
Does it work on the xt1625 non amazon, MPJ24.139-64 ?
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It does not. It checks your current firmware version and that one is too NEW. I have the same. I got this: http://i.imgur.com/ggmBiMZ.jpg
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I have added a way to downgrade your firmware to install the update.
LoopingCreeper said:
I have added a way to downgrade your firmware to install the update.
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Do I have to root the phone to downgrade?
I went to the link and I think it was a different version.
I bought mine on the motorola store and it's a custom phone. It came as xt1625 but there is no amazon nor anyother thing on it
Cyberneticx said:
Do I have to root the phone to downgrade?
I went to the link and I think it was a different version.
I bought mine on the motorola store and it's a custom phone. It came as xt1625 but there is no amazon nor anyother thing on it
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You don't have to root or unlock your bootloader or anything like that. I believe that G4 and G4+ ROMs are interchangeable.
LoopingCreeper said:
I have added a way to downgrade your firmware to install the update.
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That reddit post is deleted and the person that posted it deleted their account. Not sure I'd be comfortable downgrading now.
Can anyone confirm XT1621? Would it be safe to bet that it'll work if XT1622 is working?
Thank You, i have MOTO G4 with Nougat,
no need to downgrade the bootloder because i was on MPJ24.139-63, this worked with XT1622 - Moto G4 bought from Romania.
"Patching system image after verification" was like 15 minutes and when i choose reboot the led in the bottom of phone was flashing,(strange, i was reading about this led on xda) i hope will function in Nougat .
this does not work in any way shape or form with the XT1625 retail or amazon variants.
If I were upgrading from stock marshmallow to stock nougat and not performing a factory reset I would completely understand why i need to be on the latest version. However, I'm coming from a cm based ROM and will have to do a factory reset anyways. The firmware file includes the most up to date bootloader, soooo why do I need to flash -63 before flashing -64? Is there something I'm missing here or am I correct?
(I'm on Retus XT1625, non Amazon prime variant with an unlocked bootloader)
Travisholt92 said:
If I were upgrading from stock marshmallow to stock nougat and not performing a factory reset I would completely understand why i need to be on the latest version. However, I'm coming from a cm based ROM and will have to do a factory reset anyways. The firmware file includes the most up to date bootloader, soooo why do I need to flash -63 before flashing -64? Is there something I'm missing here or am I correct?
(I'm on Retus XT1625, non Amazon prime variant with an unlocked bootloader)
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short answer to your question: the nougat ROM looks for a -63 boot image, and also verifies against baseband versions.
it doesn't matter though, because the Nougat ROM linked herein will not work on a XT1625. i have spent hours trying to make it happen.
trevorcobb said:
it doesn't matter though, because the Nougat ROM linked herein will not work on a XT1625. i have spent hours trying to make it happen.
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What error are you getting when you try and flash it? I tried, but my firmware version was newer than the expected version, so it refused to flash.
I tried this on a locked bootloader with XT1625 amazon prime phone.
I am getting the error This package expects the value "athene" for "ro.product.name" or "athene" for "ro.product.name" on the OEM partition; But the actual value are "athene_amz""athene_amz"
It'll probably work on the non-Amazon version, then.
I have Adoptable Storage and the ZIPs don't show up in the SD card. Is it safe to swap to another card temporary to do the update?
Hey XDA, I haven't been on here since my Samsung S2 years ago. I picked up a new moto Z for daydream, (amazon 499 special, 64 gb luna grey unlocked, retus software, 650-03). I bought it from the american amazon, and I am in canada. I popped in my Sasktel sim card and it works perfectly.
My questions are:
How do I manually flash nougat?
If I flash to the rogers 45 firmware, will I still be able to use my Sasktel sim?
How long until nougat comes out regardless? Should I just wait?
If I do flash to this "rogers 45 nougat", can I go back to my "vanilla" stock later? ( i just want daydream now, i bought the headset already. then when my area gets nougat, ill flash back to my phones nougat.. or does it make a difference?)
Sorry for the really random questions. I couldn't find the answers to these on the forums or on google. (reddit has been saying just wait, and don't flash)
You can try this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245 - I had success flashing the Rogers 45 firmware (am on retca software channel) but for the life of me couldn't get the Nougat update to install. I'm on Telus and had no issues with my SIM card working after I flashed to the Rogers 45. Flashed back to the retca official firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/moto-z-official-firmware-downloads-t3449837) this morning with no problems.
Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Just flash the patched bootlogo you can find here... (or, better, make one as I liked more and asked for... )
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Just flash the patched bootlogo you can find here... (or, better, make one as I liked more and asked for... )
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Going to start a new thread so as not to hijack this one
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other ( @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own-opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... let's limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own - opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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Yes very good tutorial, I really likes to write something like this but I'm not good in English
Thanks again
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Thanks again
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Ahahahaha, this is only "chatting" in not-so-good-English ... :laugh:
Thanx for you *great* development here instead! :highfive:
enetec said:
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other ( @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own-opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... let's limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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Wow! Thank you for the response! This answered pretty much all of my questions, but also sparked a few more. The Moto Z was a pretty big purchase for me so I am in no hurry to lose functionality. A lot of people are using translators on here, so I'll be simple (sorry if it comes off as blunt or rude, typing with translators in mind)
I want to stay on android 7. Downgrading to 6.0 is not a worry for me.
I want to get future updates from my carrier. (official android/moto updates and security patches. I want to be able to use the "Google Tango" mod, if it comes out)
I want to be able to use the projector mod and daydream.
I do not plan on rooting my phone (maybe later), and I do not want to unlock my bootloader.
Will the retmx nougat be different then the copy of nougat I would get from retus?
Finally, is there any benefit to waiting for the OTA? Or am I getting the exact same copy of nougat on XDA, that I would in three weeks from OTA? I already bought the daydream headset, am I waiting for nothing?
*two more questions I guess*
Do I need a SD card?
do I need to unlock my bootloader to do this upgrade?
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/update-to-7-0-nougat-xt1650-03-retus-t3513095)
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245)
Sorry for all the questions. I have looked all over XDA and haven't been able to find an answer (reddit, and google too :/). I am hoping that other people will be able to read this, and have their questions answered as well.
Again, thank you. You guys are really smart.
pixelens said:
You can try this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245 - I had success flashing the Rogers 45 firmware (am on retca software channel) but for the life of me couldn't get the Nougat update to install. I'm on Telus and had no issues with my SIM card working after I flashed to the Rogers 45. Flashed back to the retca official firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/moto-z-official-firmware-downloads-t3449837) this morning with no problems.
Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Awesome, so I would probably want to take note of my retus (not retca, because I bought mine from the american amazon, right?). Do I need to unlock my bootloader to get regular android 7? or did you root as well as upgrade?
Thank you for the response.
Porcelainfog said:
Awesome, so I would probably want to take note of my retus (not retca, because I bought mine from the american amazon, right?). Do I need to unlock my bootloader to get regular android 7? or did you root as well as upgrade?
Thank you for the response.
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Yup, you'll want the retus firmware I would think. I'm not sure if you have to unlock your bootloader, I did only because I was having issues with the Nougat update and thought that might be why but it didn't make a difference. I did get the Nougat update to install this morning though, tried it on another computer (stupid ADB). I did not root though, just unocked my bootloader and did the Rogers flash then the Noughat sideload.
I'd try it without unlocking the bootloader, if you get an error saying "can't read file <###>" when trying to adb sideload the Nougat update, try different ADB drivers or a different computer first before unlocking it. The couple people I know that have chimed in say they're unlocked as well but haven't indicated whether you need to be or not.
Based on your expressed needs... I'll just wait your OTA. Nothing more. It's only a matter of weeks anyway...
Sorry for being a newb and asking here but I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this.
I was originally on MM and upgraded to Nougat on unlocked I international Moto Z.
I then decided to install TWRP, root and try a new ROM. If I want to go back to stock Nougat can't it just be a case of flashing the Nougat update I have download on my computer through ODIN or is it going to be a little more complex than that?
Thanks for any help
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Yup, you'll want the retus firmware I would think. I'm not sure if you have to unlock your bootloader, I did only because I was having issues with the Nougat update and thought that might be why but it didn't make a difference. I did get the Nougat update to install this morning though, tried it on another computer (stupid ADB). I did not root though, just unocked my bootloader and did the Rogers flash then the Noughat sideload.
I'd try it without unlocking the bootloader, if you get an error saying "can't read file <###>" when trying to adb sideload the Nougat update, try different ADB drivers or a different computer first before unlocking it. The couple people I know that have chimed in say they're unlocked as well but haven't indicated whether you need to be or not.
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Ok, I'll try it without unlocking the bootloader and let you know what happens. Is your new version of nougat working properly (unrooted?)? Is there a difference between the nougat I am going to flash, and the OTA i'll get in a few weeks? (If you say there is no difference, I'll flash it ASAP without unlocking boot loader and let you know. Working daydream, playstore, and moto mods right?)
Again, thank you for helping a noob like me out.
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Ok, I'll try it without unlocking the bootloader and let you know what happens. Is your new version of nougat working properly (unrooted?)? Is there a difference between the nougat I am going to flash, and the OTA i'll get in a few weeks? (If you say there is no difference, I'll flash it ASAP without unlocking boot loader and let you know. Working daydream, playstore, and moto mods right?)
Again, thank you for helping a noob like me out.
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Seems to be working properly, at least from what I remember of Nougat on my 6P. I've had not force closes or other issues. I haven't tried Daydream apps out yet, but they did install fine (which they wouldn't under Marshmallow - got the "not compatible with your device" message). Play Store works fine, Incipio Battery Moto Mod works fine, haven't tested the others yet.
As far as what's different between this version and the OTA in a few weeks, I have no clue - but from what I gather this is a stock Nougat pulled from a device that got the OTA (don't quote me on that though hah). As for a few weeks, where are you hearing that? Can't get an answer out of Telus at all here and am wondering if maybe they're working on pushing it out as 7.1.x instead of 7.0. Who knows...
Let me know how it goes without unlocking the boot loader, having a ***** of a time trying to get it relocked lol (not the end of the world though).
pixelens said:
Seems to be working properly, at least from what I remember of Nougat on my 6P. I've had not force closes or other issues. I haven't tried Daydream apps out yet, but they did install fine (which they wouldn't under Marshmallow - got the "not compatible with your device" message). Play Store works fine, Incipio Battery Moto Mod works fine, haven't tested the others yet.
As far as what's different between this version and the OTA in a few weeks, I have no clue - but from what I gather this is a stock Nougat pulled from a device that got the OTA (don't quote me on that though hah). As for a few weeks, where are you hearing that? Can't get an answer out of Telus at all here and am wondering if maybe they're working on pushing it out as 7.1.x instead of 7.0. Who knows...
Let me know how it goes without unlocking the boot loader, having a ***** of a time trying to get it relocked lol (not the end of the world though).
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Hey so I got it onto 7.0 finally. I ended up unlocking my bootloader. I didn't try without it, I read somewhere that it could cause a soft brick. Just wanted to say thanks to you guys that helped and Prfndhatrdofman (if he reads this) for his guide.
PS
holy ****ing ****. **** adb. **** android studio. **** drivers. And ****ing .zip extentions (took me like 30 minutes to put .zip on the end of Blur_Version...zip. Yes, I am an idiot).
Telus appears to have finally updated their update page for moto z nougat. Tentative date of December 19.
Forum post - Telus
Dawnhawk said:
Telus appears to have finally updated their update page for moto z nougat. Tentative date of December 19.
Forum post - Telus
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LOL, of course they did!
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Hey so I got it onto 7.0 finally. I ended up unlocking my bootloader. I didn't try without it, I read somewhere that it could cause a soft brick. Just wanted to say thanks to you guys that helped and Prfndhatrdofman (if he reads this) for his guide.
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holy ****ing ****. **** adb. **** android studio. **** drivers. And ****ing .zip extentions (took me like 30 minutes to put .zip on the end of Blur_Version...zip. Yes, I am an idiot).
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Cool. And ya re ADB haha
I bought a LG V10 today i dont know if its used or new (LOL) any way to find that out i checked IMEI says its orignal talked to people at LG USA they said its Original Here are my questions:
1) How to know if your phone is Legit like New + Lasting?( in my country they replicate used to orignal or fake to orignal)
2) How to Root LG V10? (i tried it with other phones i broke them)
3) Suggest Some Recommended Apps and ROMS?
4)I have seen a youtube video of xdadevelopers they were talking how you can overclock or under clock your device can i do that with my phone?
5)Last Question How can i myself from the infamous Bootloop? (Any Suggestion, Tricks Ways)
I am new here i need your help for not doing a rookie mistake....
1) Get the LG Phone Info app on the Google Play Market and as long as that shows "OK" in the Original info (the first box after you click the Get Information button) then your device is an original and not something that's been modified on a firmware level.
2) If you have Lollipop or Marshmallow rooting is fairly easy by comparison to Nougat. If you have Nougat on it already things are basically a stop - there is no working root for Nougat at this moment IF the device has been upgraded to Nougat using T-Mobile's OTA direct from them. Once that's been installed there's no turning back and no working root at this point but some devs are working on it, no guarantees they'll ever be able to create one.
If the device has Lollipop or Marshmallow on it you can get it rooted. The best course of action is to go from Lollipop to Marshmallow (the last Marshmallow build is 20l and that's an "L" there, lowercase, not 1 or i/I) and then what you'll need to do is get TWRP on it (that step is critical) then you would flash this modified update.zip to get to Nougat build 30b on it. runningak3d modified that update.zip file so it does NOT overwrite the recovery partition and you get to keep TWRP installed for flashing purposes. If you use T-Mobile's official OTA update.zip you'll be stuck, not able to flash anything including TWRP, or get rooted, etc.
So, again, the process is get to Marshmallow 20l, then get TWRP installed - at that point root is not necessary just to get the modified 20b update.zip on it. Then use TWRP to flash that modified 20b update.zip at which point it'll be Nougat, and THEN you can flash SuperSU with TWRP and you end up with a V10 running Nougat and rooted, that's the only method at this point.
runningak3d said he (or she, sorry, I just don't know) would try to create another modified update.zip which is pre-rooted so when installed you've got root/SuperSU ready to go but it's barely a minute to install SuperSU manually after flashing that modified 20b update.zip so it's not really a big issue there.
3) There are no custom ROMs for the V10 at this point, no Lineage, no AOSP, nothing really. There are some modified stock ROMs iirc but nothing that's totally custom and we V10 owners are still hoping some dev will take some time and create an unofficial Lineage build for the V10 based on Nougat (or even Marshmallow, I don't really care which Android version it's based on just that it's Lineage through and through). It seems pretty screwy that nobody seems to care about the V10 enough to have created a custom ROM but that's how it goes sometimes. The V10 is like an LG G4 on steroids in some respects, basically the same hardware overall with some minor differences (the second screen, of course, but I don't even use that on mine so I don't care about it at all).
I just wanted Lineage because it's so lean and efficient compared to any stock ROM and of course the potential for having a custom kernel with more governor support and other aspects is the big draw for me so, the hope remains that someone out there will take some pity on us woeful V10 owners and drop a Lineage build someday.
As for apps, well, that's entirely up to you and what you use your V10 for, and since nobody knows that but you then it'll be up to you to decide what kinds of apps you're going to be looking for.
4) Over-and-underclocking requires a custom kernel that allows for such things, and the stock kernel that's available (I think there was one custom kernel but it's just a modified stock one with limited additional capabilities) simply doesn't allow for such alterations. The V10 is quite fast on its own natively so, I can't imagine why someone would need to overclock it - I can understand WHY someone would WANT to do it, of course, but as for an actual need to do it, nope.
As for underclocking, that would save battery and be what I'd call a need in some respects, but again there just doesn't seem to be any developer out there that gives a damn about the V10 sadly. I wish I had spent more time learning how to create custom ROMs over the years and trick out some kernels as well using the provided source from manufacturers of these smartphones but I never did.
5) There is no way to prevent the potential bootloop issue which affects the G3/G4/G5/G6 (I saw one report so it could be bogus for the G6) and also the V10/V20 (seen two reports for the V20) and the Nexus 5x because it's a hardware manufacturing defect related to how the Snapdragon SoCs are mounted on the motherboards. There's nothing that you can do about it and there's no way to know for sure if the V10 you have will develop problems because of it or not, all you can do is use it and be done with it and hope for the best. Again, there is no fix and there's no way to know or prevent it from happening so, no matter what so called "fix" you read about or see a video about, it's all BS and best avoided.
My recommendation: since you just got the V10, go to LG's website and register the V10 in your name (might have to create an account) and then say you bought it in March, April, or May of 2017 (just a few months ago) and that will give you warranty protection through at least mid-2018. If you do that and it does bootloop on you, LG will replace it through the warranty period. Don't register it and you're out of luck if it does bootloop on you.
Hope this helps...
So, I've been "out of the scene" for 2 years +some months and I can't find clear answers to how I should do to get what I need. I need your help...
What I want to obtain: I want to have my LG G5 (H850) updated to the last firmware version (it should have andrioid 7, right?), rooted, and with Magisk installed. Xposed too, if it's possible in android 7. It is, right?
What I have right now: a rooted phone at FW version V10d-EUR-XX with Xposed installed (bootloader unlocked with the official method), android 6.0.1.
I don't know where to start from, since I can't find specific guides that tell me what to do, I have to ask here...
For example, do I have to reset the phone and install everything from scratch? Should I un-root the phone and install the firmware updates in the official way, or can I do it with some tool without un-rooting? Can I keep my installed apps & data? I don't know...
Thanks for any help... sorry if I'm demanding a lot, but I've always found it pretty hard to find definitive guides (or just definitive answers) in the android scene.
Well the first part is easy, use lg bridge to get the latest firmware..I'm doing it as I type..then I need to install adb and fastboot to install twrp and magical..
Latest firmware is 20x
Thanks for the reply.
So, if I already have TWRP, I can update the firmware with lg bridge and then I can simply install magisk? I thought I had read that if my phone is already rooted magisk can't hide the root, or something.
The firmware flash will take the phone back to stock..root gone..twrp gone..so install twrp through CMD window is needed..just make sure you have the magisk files on a SD card
Back to stock means, completely? All my apps and data gone? If yes, is there some tool to restore them easily after the firmware update?
And when I install magisk, if I need root do I simply have to install magisk's "root module"?
LG bridge shouldn't delete user data..I thought it did..but after doing it, it didn't..it just upgrades the firmware
Thanks. What about Xposed? Will it remain or will I have to install it again? And, since it requires root, does it mean that I have to enable root with magisk to use the Xposed modules otherwise they don't work? Like, that when I disable root they stop working?
Never used closed so I don't know..if lg bridge leaves user data alone it may leave root alone but then again it may flash stock boot image..so not sure really..
I don't mind reinstall lots of apps again as long as my pics are backed up.so I would reset phone...flash firmware..then twrp..then magisk..
Ok then, but I don't know which firmware I have to use.
For example, the latest in the list (here, ordered by date, descending) is "H85020t_00_TMO_COM_OP_0514.kdz" but it says "TPL - Europe - PL/Poland". My phone isn't from Poland, it's from Italy, and there's no firmware with that same date for Italy. Should I just use the newest one saying "Italy"? I dunno...
I also saw that, for the same country, there can be different updates for different providers, but I'm pretty sure my phone had none (it was "unbranded"). So which one should I choose?
LG bridge will automatically download the latest one for you..use error recovery
Oh, that's great.
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Ok then, but I don't know which firmware I have to use.
For example, the latest in the list (here, ordered by date, descending) is "H85020t_00_TMO_COM_OP_0514.kdz" but it says "TPL - Europe - PL/Poland". My phone isn't from Poland, it's from Italy, and there's no firmware with that same date for Italy. Should I just use the newest one saying "Italy"? I dunno...
I also saw that, for the same country, there can be different updates for different providers, but I'm pretty sure my phone had none (it was "unbranded"). So which one should I choose?
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There's update zips available in the development section. You just flash the COMPLETE version of one of those in TWRP and you're done.
totalnoob34 said:
There's update zips available in the development section. You just flash the COMPLETE version of one of those in TWRP and you're done.
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Is it any better than using LG Bridge?
And would I need to make a Nandroid backup just in case, if I wanted to flash those zips, or is it safe? 'Cause I'm having trouble with that, as I wrote in the other thread...
Thanks
Ok I'm done, I updated the firmware with LG Bridge and installed Magisk & Xposed (through Magisk). Xposed isn't activating itself but that's another problem.
You might need to update again soon if Oreo comes out
russy23 said:
You might need to update again soon if Oreo comes out
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What
Yeah I know, but at least now I know how to do the whole procedure almost painlessly.