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I read it was slower and gets lower benchmarks, but is it noticeable?
Only cons I feel is Poco F1 Camera with manual controls and different shooting modes, rest Los is superior in every aspects
Yeah, it is a bit slower than MIUI. I'd say about 15%. Other downsides? Definitely a camera and if you don't like the stock Android experience then I would also suggest to stay on MIUI.
It's just a matter of taste. If you prefer Android stock install Lineage Os on the other hand stay on miui.
Personally I am on the beta miui android pie and I am very satisfied with it.
Note that miui has better performance
Thanks for the replies, so it's a little bit of speed and some camera features. The rest is about tastes.
So regarding tastes, why do some prefer one over the other?
No video stabilization on custom ROMs. It's kinda important to me.
Ui speed and fluidity is way better in los
Here are some of things you find in MIUI based roms which you wouldn't in AOSP roms
Dual Space , Dual Apps , Private Folder , Theme Engine ...
yes all these case can replicated using 3rd party apps but they are not as integrated as in MIUI
I have seen some of the 600 series processor phones with performance in custom roms better than the stock rom.
What's going on with POCO?
I can't directly ask a developer because there is always someone against me saying ' it's his free time hobby that he is giving us time, you should not ask any question regarding his work '. Ok that's fine! But performance issue only with POCO, I don't get it.........
I hate MIUI because of it's User experience, so I search for ROMs with stock experience but I didn't find any , forget about getting better than MIUI but same as Miui's performance. It's no more snapdragon 845 phone anymore with custom roms............. Go compare with other Manufacturers..
Yeah, I kind of see what you mean... Some custom ROMs have pretty bad performance compared with stock for whatever reason. I've noticed that the only ROM faster than MIUI on Poco is OxygenOS. It's been my daily driver for a while now. Nitrogen is also quite good as far as I remember... I try to stay away from custom ROMs because of the unsatisfying performance. I only switch between MIUI and OOS now.
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Yeah, I kind of see what you mean... Some custom ROMs have pretty bad performance compared with stock for whatever reason. I've noticed that the only ROM faster than MIUI on Poco is OxygenOS. It's been my daily driver for a while now. Nitrogen is also quite good as far as I remember... I try to stay away from custom ROMs because of the unsatisfying performance. I only switch between MIUI and OOS now.
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I have used it bro, it's really fast but the only thing it lacks is the touch response or smoothness like MIUI.
If it was I wouldn't had any complaints...
i dont get it, where is it faster? what kind of performance? im using aosip, its much smoother than miui and is totaly fast, no complains at all. i also tried oos, miui eu, mi room, linage, pe, havoc, crdroid, nos and few more others, none had "bad performance". can you tell me what exactly do you mean? i experinced laggs and stuttering only on miui
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i dont get it, where is it faster? what kind of performance? im using aosip, its much smoother than miui and is totaly fast, no complains at all. i also tried oos, miui eu, mi room, linage, pe, havoc, crdroid, nos and few more others, none had "bad performance". can you tell me what exactly do you mean? i experinced laggs and stuttering only on miui
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Which rom do you find fastest? I do not want to try each and every rom
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i dont get it, where is it faster? what kind of performance? im using aosip, its much smoother than miui and is totaly fast, no complains at all. i also tried oos, miui eu, mi room, linage, pe, havoc, crdroid, nos and few more others, none had "bad performance". can you tell me what exactly do you mean? i experinced laggs and stuttering only on miui
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Aosp based ROM smoother then MIUI? LMFAO
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Aosp based ROM smoother then MIUI? LMFAO
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laugh as much as you want, i know what i see. i was using miui for months, now since february on aosip, just love it. miui eu still as primary on multirom, aosip, oos, los, pe and nos as secondary. but most time using aosip, also the only one secured with fingerprint and code.
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Which rom do you find fastest? I do not want to try each and every rom
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aosip. though the differences are minimal. use multirom to try them all, its quite simple
Pourush Sharan Bhargav said:
I have seen some of the 600 series processor phones with performance in custom roms better than the stock rom.
What's going on with POCO?
I can't directly ask a developer because there is always someone against me saying ' it's his free time hobby that he is giving us time, you should not ask any question regarding his work '. Ok that's fine! But performance issue only with POCO, I don't get it.........
I hate MIUI because of it's User experience, so I search for ROMs with stock experience but I didn't find any , forget about getting better than MIUI but same as Miui's performance. It's no more snapdragon 845 phone anymore with custom roms............. Go compare with other Manufacturers..
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Crdroid is better than MIUI imo. Especially in the latest updates.
I'm using some magisk modules for increasing smoothness, but all in all its performance is over the top out of the box.
P.S. Hold in mind that the phones you're mentioning are probably older than the Poco.
As time goes by, devs fix bugs and embed new things even from other devices to make the phone run better. So time works in favor of the custom ROMs.
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The good thing of MIUI is performance (although as i said, crdroid performs even better imo).
Smoothness is non-existent. The first month i was using MIUI i had started wandering why i bought the Poco, since my 3 year old zuk z2 felt smoother.
The lags and the stuttering are everywhere except the menus.
I'm using LineageOS and I don't notice a difference in performance in day-to-day use. Perhaps in gaming MIUI might be better, but you kinda expect that due to optimization.
Maybe because of the kernel?? Im also a fan of miui because of the custom.kernel that works great on it...
hi everyone, i am still using MIUI global rom. current version 10.3.4.
i do have interest to unlock my phone and switch to other rom. but two things in my concern, the native miui camera app and esim.
in asia, we do have one app that will use the built in esim feature , am i still getting this benefit from custom rom too?
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hi everyone, i am still using MIUI global rom. current version 10.3.4.
i do have interest to unlock my phone and switch to other rom. but two things in my concern, the native miui camera app and esim.
in asia, we do have one app that will use the built in esim feature , am i still getting this benefit from custom rom too?
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Well regarding the native Miui camera, you can install the port on your custom rom but few features wont work such as 120fps and 240fps slow mo and few more. But all basic features will work such as taking a photo or recording video.
Sadly, No idea about esim though.
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Pourush Sharan Bhargav said:
I have seen some of the 600 series processor phones with performance in custom roms better than the stock rom.
What's going on with POCO?
I can't directly ask a developer because there is always someone against me saying ' it's his free time hobby that he is giving us time, you should not ask any question regarding his work '. Ok that's fine! But performance issue only with POCO, I don't get it.........
I hate MIUI because of it's User experience, so I search for ROMs with stock experience but I didn't find any , forget about getting better than MIUI but same as Miui's performance. It's no more snapdragon 845 phone anymore with custom roms............. Go compare with other Manufacturers..
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I know exactly what you are talking about. Well the only reason why one can feel custom roms to be less snappy than MIUI is because of the optimizations that MIUI has for POCO F1 for it's touch response. You must be knowing about touch response issue of Poco F1 and Xiamoi has done lot's of optimization not only in it's vendor files but also in the MIUI for Poco itself to rectify the issue as much as possible. And this is something AOSP roms or any other roms lack because mostly AOSP roms are universal made and minor tweaks are done to make it work with a certain device so level of per device tweak is pretty less.
Now if you directly compare the performance of a custom rom (I am using Pixel Experience) with MIUI, both open apps at almost the same time and both are fluid. I don't care about the benchmarks because that really doesn't define anything related to personal experience.
So despite knowing this factor, I went for custom rom because I felt like Poco F1 does not deserve that crappy and cheap MIUI experience which is on offer. And Pixel Experience has been a great rom till date.
I think you should give a try to custom roms such as Oxygen OS or any good AOSP based rom such as Pixel Experience (my recommendation) or Nitrogen OS. Also Lineage OS is very good but its too much basic for me.
I just cant agree with this topic, I can feel that every custom rom developed here was amazing. I noticed the most biggest improvement for custom rom was it feel so snappy compared to stock rom. And i managed to squeeze more battery life than stock rom. But one thing stock rom for sure to win was, its picture taken using its stock camera app. I know we can use google camera, but when using aosp camera it the quality was too bad, so much difference from stock miui camera.
What about .eu miui stable releases? They have rectified most of the annoyances of miui global. Anyone tried it?
If someone from asia (india) uses .eu miui rom, will everything work properly without any region related issues?
sotosgolf said:
Smoothness is non-existent. The first month i was using MIUI i had started wandering why i bought the Poco, since my 3 year old zuk z2 felt smoother.
The lags and the stuttering are everywhere except the menus.
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Maybe stop flashing random Magisk modules and other crap which interferes with the system.
I've never had any issues with MIUI, it was always smooth and performing very well out of the box.
deathnoise said:
Maybe stop flashing random Magisk modules and other crap which interferes with the system.
I've never had any issues with MIUI, it was always smooth and performing very well out of the box.
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I have to assume that you cannot read English very well.
I mentioned that i use magisk modules that IMPROVE my experience with my CURRENT ROM.
I am getting better performance and better SOT than with MIUI.
To clarify things, I was using MIUI with locked bootloader and without any modifications.
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I have to assume that you cannot read English very well.
I mentioned that i use magisk modules that IMPROVE my experience with my CURRENT ROM.
I am getting better performance and better SOT than with MIUI.
To clarify things, I was using MIUI with locked bootloader and without any modifications.
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which magisk modules?
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which magisk modules?
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The improvements are slightly noticable, but it's not just a placebo (at least on crdroid).
+They don't affect the battery negatively.
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
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so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.
Hello everyone, I just bought this phone and I wonder if it shows a lot of difference when installing any of the roms that I have seen through this same forum.
The aspects that interest me to know are above all that such is the quality of the cameras in other roms, is there much difference in the battery? And how about the overall performance of the phone?
Finally I would like you to advise me what would be the best rom for this device and if there are links to other posts to root and install twrp (I am currently in stock 10, in case the procedures change)
Thanks for reading!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a3/how-to/discussion-lists-best-custom-rom-xiaomi-t4106947
Install Evolution X
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Hello everyone, I just bought this phone and I wonder if it shows a lot of difference when installing any of the roms that I have seen through this same forum.
The aspects that interest me to know are above all that such is the quality of the cameras in other roms, is there much difference in the battery? And how about the overall performance of the phone?
Finally I would like you to advise me what would be the best rom for this device and if there are links to other posts to root and install twrp (I am currently in stock 10, in case the procedures change)
Thanks for reading!
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In my opinion, stock Android is really boring. You can't customize it or tweak it in any way. Evolution X has a better battery backup than stock ROM.
The camera performance in stock Android is fine. You can get even better quality with GCam. But, the oversaturated screen ruins the photography experience.
With evolution X, you can calibrate the screen. You can check out the values I use. ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a3/review/color-saturation-accuracy-t3962056/post82758721
In my opinion this greatly improves the overall phone experience.
I waited for a while before i flashed evox bcz I didn't want to miss on the ota updates and official support but those really suck and flashing a new rom is just much better and you don't loose anything really, for me everything works much better than stock rom, battery and performance are much better and the customisation is gold
I really liked the stock ROM, but for me the phone was randomly rebooting on Stock. This happened a few times while I was navigating while driving and it was infruiating so I made the switch. I'm quite happy with crDroid right now, since it has less bloat even than the stock ROM, but if you're not having any issues on stock, I'd suggest to stay on stock because there is a learning curve with flashing custom stuff on every phone, you will have to brick your phone a few times to properly install a custom ROM and that requires time + patience. For me it was worth it, since the phone doesn't randomly reboot anymore.
In my opinion, the best custom rom till now is MIUI 11 with Magisk installed. It's super fast + tons of great features. I'm sure we'll get MIUI 12 also, since its been released for CC9e. Give it a try and you'll love it.
Changing ROM is good, personally I bought this phone because of Stock Android with minimum bloatwares. However with stock Android comes a price of customizations. With a custom ROM, you can achieve all that and still control many features of your phone. I have changed ROM to EvolutionX and it's pretty good ROM which I am using as a daily driver. It got some bugs thought but so does stock Android 10 ROM.
I have finally decided to get rid of MIUI and try other better custom roms +- kernels out there. I want to know what roms/kernels will be the better option for 2-3 years old POCO F1? I mostly use it games and music only.
I have heard about crdroid as the lightest of all with better performance overall. Then there is ArrowOS, LineageOS among other better alternatives.
Please suggest me which one to go for, for my POCO is still a 'virgin' but wants to get a taste of better performance overall.
Thanks
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I have finally decided to get rid of MIUI and try other better custom roms +- kernels out there. I want to know what roms/kernels will be the better option for 2-3 years old POCO F1? I mostly use it games and music only.
I have heard about crdroid as the lightest of all with better performance overall. Then there is ArrowOS, LineageOS among other better alternatives.
Please suggest me which one to go for, for my POCO is still a 'virgin' but wants to get a taste of better performance overall.
Thanks
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Hey,
If you want take a look on my thread POCO F1 Ultimate Collection & Guides. I have awarded the most popular stable and always up to date ROMs.
nu2rooting said:
I have finally decided to get rid of MIUI and try other better custom roms +- kernels out there. I want to know what roms/kernels will be the better option for 2-3 years old POCO F1? I mostly use it games and music only.
I have heard about crdroid as the lightest of all with better performance overall. Then there is ArrowOS, LineageOS among other better alternatives.
Please suggest me which one to go for, for my POCO is still a 'virgin' but wants to get a taste of better performance overall.
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From the start, I've used Lineage OS for multiple reasons,
It's the most stable, I've tried other OS like Havov, PI and Corvus, etc but found tiny bugs.
It's stock kernel was good but I've switched to NGK. I don't really play games so I keep battery mode, with ngk app you can switch to gaming mode. Another thing to mentioned is on stock LOS kernel i got these scores on Geekbench5
(SC-249, MC-898) but after switching to ngk with gaming mode I got (SC-504 MC-2000+) so, you can really the differece.
crDroid is excellent. Using it exclusively since the past 27 months. An occasional (minor) bug or two crops up in some build or the other but it gets squashed quickly.