Hello everyone,
So I upgraded my phone and as a result went from Marshmallow to Pie, and was told by my call recipients that they can hear a beep (couldn't be heard before). After little research I found this: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-p-call-recording-tone-support-record-phone-calls-lawfully/ Looks like Google has done what they've promised...
The tone is a 1400Hz note that will play every fifteen seconds if the carrier enables it. It works by detecting the package name of a call recording app using the previously linked API. If any such package is detected, then the outgoing call will have the tone played to warn the other end that their call may be recorded. The tone will be automatically played depending on carrier configuration, which is determined by the SIM card.
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Now I need to stop this beeping, and coulnd't think of a better place than XDA to ask for help. Any ideas?
Google Pixel 3, 181205 update, rooted, Vodafone UK, using ACR Pro to record.
P. S. The tone can only be heard by your recipient and is network dependant, like the article said. Tried EE SIM and it doesn't beep, while Vodafone does Hope this will help someone to come up with solution quicker.
OK, so a month later I can say that I was unable to find any solutions online, and only a few people reported this issue (all on Vodafone).
According to the commits, Vodafone Germany is the only carrier that this call recording tone support will be mandated (for now), as the MCC/MNN combination mentioned in one of the files matches Vodafone’s carrier identity: 26202.
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What do you think, is it possible to change my MCC/MNN numbers while staying on Vodafone, so this new feature wouldn't engage?
The tone is a 1400Hz note that will play every fifteen seconds if the carrier enables it. It works by detecting the package name of a call recording app using the previously linked API. If any such package is detected, then the outgoing call will have the tone played to warn the other end that their call may be recorded. The tone will be automatically played depending on carrier configuration, which is determined by the SIM card.
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Or maybe I could do something here? Like hiding those packages, or renaming so they wouldn't get detected?
Thanks
Call recording is a bit of a thorny issue when it comes to privacy. There are also different rules in different places, making it hard for Google to implement a standard in Android without falling foul of the law in certain jurisdictions. Android's official call recording API was removed in Android 6.0 Marshmallow, so third-party app developers have had to be creative since then. As of Android 9 Pie, it looks like Google has put a stop to it altogether.
marvelart said:
Call recording is a bit of a thorny issue when it comes to privacy. There are also different rules in different places, making it hard for Google to implement a standard in Android without falling foul of the law in certain jurisdictions. Android's official call recording API was removed in Android 6.0 Marshmallow, so third-party app developers have had to be creative since then. As of Android 9 Pie, it looks like Google has put a stop to it altogether.
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You can still use 3rd party apps for call recording, but now carriers have an option to turn this 1400Hz tone to let other party know you're recording. Germany is two-party consent state therefore Vodafone decided to opt-in on this bloody tone worldwide even though most EU countries, including the one I'm in, doesn't require consent for recording calls unless you're a business. I believe in android community, we have overcome bigger issues
I did not expect that literally nobody else would find this beeping to be a problem... There must not be too many Vodafone customers with rooted Android Pie wanting to record calls then
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hi, i'm often go on a motorcycle. I ask you if there is a program that answers the call and provides a message like: "hello, Mascarpetta is on the bike.'ll be recalled. thanks."
excuse me for my bud english....thanks to all.
I second this - this would be a great app idea. I've seen jailbroken apps for the iPhone that have a similar feature.
I've seen some 'Personal Secrertary' apps in Marketplace, although I've never checked to see if they have this kind of functionality...
Mobile Receptionist can do this by sending an SMS - which isn't ideal if someone calls from a line land, tho you should be able to determine if the call is from a mobile...
maybe you would like to try this one!
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Communications/iSecretary-59157.shtml
regards!
leepriestenator said:
In Utopia, this software would do the following
1) Intercept an incoming call
2) Tap into the mic system and playback a predesignated audio file such that no one else but the caller can hear it
3) After the message has played, it then taps into the ear piece system and records the caller's message. Again, no one else but the phone can hear this.
4) Provide you a notification for the message you have received.
In reality, this is not possible. Here's why
1) Telecom providers would lose a pretty significant amount of money that they charge you for voicemail services.
2) I'm pretty sure that the above reason is why a lot of hardware manufacturers don't allow intejcting an audio stream into the mic system.
This is why you never get the result you want with all the "phone answering machine" software out there.
The way these programs work is they turn on your speakerphone and play the message loud so that the mic can pick it up and your caller hears the message.
In the same way, when the caller talks back it plays it loud and the mic again picks up the sound and records it.
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isecretary 4.6
You can try this software. Post your reply, please ...
i could not use it somehow.. can some one provide with a tut??
Doesn't your voicemail service allow you to create a custom message?
I've searched on Goolge, XDA and many other android forums but fail to find a proper Answering Machine app for Android. By Answering Machine I mean the app that acts like a voicemail residing on the phone - I can see many so called Answering Machine apps which auto-respond to calls via predefined SMS <- this is NOT what I'm looking for.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Visual Voicemail?
Yes. Google Voice.
Google Voice has not started in India. I need an offline - standalone app which is not affiliated with any online service.
i don't think there is one mate..... the old symbian Nokias did...
that was because they were able to send sound directly to the caller ... i dunno if its a hardware limitation ... i really hope someone can figure that out...
i remember used to be able to play songs straight to my conversation so they can feel the base and treble more clearly...i miss that function...also the app with background noises to fake ur surrounding.....
i wonder if N8 can do this...?
***EDIT**** oops i realize u meant online service... nevamind... hehe ignore my RANT
Answering machine app? Isn't it just the voicemail itself with pre-recorded greeting message?
Or visual voicemail like someone mentioned before.
Edit: I see you need an offline service. The ones I know all all either bound by carrier or need internet.
Calling developers
When I had a symbian phone, things were so easy. I used IVCM (interactive voice call master) to handle incoming calls.
This app is near to perfection, it can distinguish callers (in address book, in some whitelist, in a blacklist, unknown callers and, last but not least, private numbers)
For any of those you can define a suitable treatment, invoke the answering machine after xx seconds, play a notification then hang up, forward the call to another number, play the busy tone, and more options.
Furthermore you can schedule the behaviour, so the phone switches to answering machine at once during the night, let only friends reach you in the evening etc...
Outgoing messages can be personalised by address group, country (=different language!), friends, private number callers etc..
It can also record a call (incoming, outgoing or both) without beeps.
This is a call to the Android developer community. Please build us an app with a similar usability, picking things up where IVCM stopped.
I will be your first customer and prepared to pay well for it!
Have you tried youmail from android market?
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yep, I had the same kind of soft on my symbian, it was called Advanced Call Manager (ACM). The same soft exists for Android, so I tried it, but no answering machine on the Android version. I asked the developer team, and they told me it's not possible on Android.
this is confirmed by several posts
forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1533213
groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/e8904c82a2c4a333?pli=1[/url]
it's the only feature I miss since I switched over from my symbian phone
youmail? the would be something to post in the android section of xda not the vibrant section. Also since you are looking for India specific stuff it would get a wider audience of people around the world
Hi there
I was looking for the same, and found a old solution.
The Name is airvoice, but works only on rootet Phone and only on the old Android Hero mobile.
I asked the developer to continue his great work. He seems to be dissapointet, that so many people votet his app so bad in the market.
So if you guys also try to contact the developer (through the contact inf's on the Market) maybe he will continue?
Greetings to you all!
ivi
See here: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.cn-airrunner-voicerecorder-pipx.aspx
Also there is a ongoing discussion on the same topic on android stackexchange.
Sorry,can insert a link as a newbie open android.stackexchange and search for "Answering Machine on Android"
might be of interest to some one
bram
back to symbian
Highfly2 said:
When I had a symbian phone, things were so easy. I used IVCM (interactive voice call master) to handle incoming calls.
This app is near to perfection, it can distinguish callers (in address book, in some whitelist, in a blacklist, unknown callers and, last but not least, private numbers)
For any of those you can define a suitable treatment, invoke the answering machine after xx seconds, play a notification then hang up, forward the call to another number, play the busy tone, and more options.
Furthermore you can schedule the behaviour, so the phone switches to answering machine at once during the night, let only friends reach you in the evening etc...
Outgoing messages can be personalised by address group, country (=different language!), friends, private number callers etc..
It can also record a call (incoming, outgoing or both) without beeps.
This is a call to the Android developer community. Please build us an app with a similar usability, picking things up where IVCM stopped.
I will be your first customer and prepared to pay well for it!
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same here..!!
i used BEST ANSWERING MACHINE on symbians, for answering my calls during my work time, and i used to listen and respond accordingly to the recorded calls. i seriously think symbians was the smartphone,
androids not.
i dont want ease of facebook on the go, i want ease of phone on the go. i want SMARTphone, not the handy pc for accessing rich websites on the go.
i ended up buying a second hand nokia e72 for managing my life while mm on work,
i have android ASUS ZENFONE 4.5
and Apple 5s but nowhere i found reliable answering machine,
the solution i found is going back to symbians to manage my calls.
Sony Xperia Z series have built in Answering machine... I know that can be ported to other rooted Android Phones as well. But dont know how to do it.
If some God can port this.iT ll be great and I am Ready to Pay. Or Somebody guide me.. with how to Mod Links.I'll try.
I used to have the Note3 LTE ..I loved it very much..but no ans machine..so now i bought Xperia Z and Happy LIfe..
No more unattended calls from unknown numbers.
i found this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pmiyusov.mvm&rdid=com.pmiyusov.mvm
2 things that i found with this, the caller could here the greeting, but the greeting is played out loud in the phone,( so cant be used in meetings) and it failed to record the message( i did not tinker with the settings, so cant really say that the app is non-functional). BUT this does look like someone is trying, so kudos to the developer.
I use a galaxy s3 with installer version of cyanogen.
Im looking for this too. I had the app call Autopilot answering machine on my n82 (maybe now it has been abandoned). Just let me explain the feature of this app because it cannot be compared to 100% to Google Voice:
1) You can record your own voice as the answering machine to block call and play your own voice when someone call you. Example "Hello dude I'm not available right now please leave a message". Of course I was able to set only specific contact with that voice.
2) the app able to auto record voice too.
3) perhaps this is hardware limitation because the app can mute your mic when answering machine is executed (so that the receiver only can hear your answering machine voice).
I was looking for this app for a long time. I dont think it exist. Maybe not possible.
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Can anyone help me have that?
Developer prefer to dev game because it is useful than visual voicemail. If you want to use voicemail, you can come back to Symbian.
Forward incoming calls app is the solution to me
Hello, I've been looking for that too.
I think that an alternative may be to divert the call to a mailbox a voip service or conventional telephone answering service.
This will cost and will require an extra line (or the use of electronics own line desk), but it is what I mean when possible.
For this I will use a call forward app with rules, as QuickCallForward or other, with more filtering rules. Some app with whitelist, blacklist, unknown, scheduler for use in specific times and days.
You maybe interested in the "LVoicemail" project at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/app-lvoicemail-t3485750/page1
Hello
I'm trying find a working app for voice call recording (both ways - in and out and both parties - me and other person)
So far I've tried several from top search result in market "call recording", but none of them worked at all on stock rom v2.2.2 (no sound)
Does anyone know any working and preferable free app that can do it?
Thank you.
I don't thing there is any app for that in the market. I know if you tweak kernel and add some mods then you will be able to record calls (like in some HTC desire Hd roms)
Sent from Motorola Atrix
Oh, that doesn't sound good...is that because of some kind of security?
Messing with kernels is out of my leage.
As I recall from prior discussions, many states require one or both sides of the phone call to accept that the call is being recorded before recording can be done. Then there are additional rules on whether or not you can record both sides of the conversation. It is a legal mess that would probably deter any legitimate effort to make a phone have full recording abilities.
That's what was discussed anyway, it doesn't change the fact that my dumbphones from years ago can record everything without any app or modification! Perhaps though since their recording quality was crap it didn't count haha.
Maybe he wants to record phone sex?
The hardware isn't there for it on the atrix if I remember correctly unless you use speaker phone you only end up recording your section of the call.
The law its different per state (in the usa) some allow with no notification others require a beep some need one or both parties to be notified
Basically, the functionality doesn't exist in the Android SDK. What broken calls do exist in the SDK, they're crippled by the fact that manufacturers and carriers make their own radio firmwares and your radio firmware must support recording in order to actually tap into the hardware microphone and hardware earpiece. Some apps will attempt to record from the speakerphone playback but it's ****. Most everyone I know who is actually recording their calls either uses a non-Android phone (Nokia N900 comes in handy here). Google voice can record calls but it will make an audible announcement to both parties which, in states like Arizona, is not legally necessary. Other than that, your next best bet is to record the call using a landline.
I noticed something in the changelog of the EternityProject Kernel..
ALSA: Support for concurrent playback/record
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The first thing I thought of was call recording.. but.. Who knows what this actually means.? Anybody?
endlessevo said:
The hardware isn't there for it on the atrix if I remember correctly unless you use speaker phone you only end up recording your section of the call.
The law its different per state (in the usa) some allow with no notification others require a beep some need one or both parties to be notified
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There is nothing in law regarding beeps. I have no idea where people get that one from, but I see it a lot.
The laws differ state to state from requiring only one parties consent to requiring all parties consent, and generally goes by the law in the state of the person recording. In any case you have to be one of the parties involved in the call, (and can therefore give your consent if the one party law applies). You cannot record other people on their private calls if you are not one of the active call participants. There are no states which allow "no notification" for private parties. There are one person and all person regulations/laws, meaning one person must consent, or all must consent.
There is also federal law which can be cited to overrule state law dependent on the court case.
The only time that calls can be recorded without anybodies consent is when it is business related and is the norm for all calls to be recorded. You are expected to realize that you could be recorded. The reason you usually get a message first telling you that recording will take place is more of a courtesy.
In my case I need call recording for when I forward my land line to my cellphone while traveling and unable write things down. Combine this with bad memory in general, now you have this urge have such feature...Feel like that guy from movie "Memento"...
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So much for that "law" when all our calls are monitored and recorded anyhow...
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In my case I need call recording for when I forward my land line to my cellphone while traveling and unable write things down. Combine this with bad memory in general, now you have this urge have such feature...Feel like that guy from movie "Memento"...
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So much for that "law" when all our calls are monitored and recorded anyhow...
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Does your landline service offer voicemail text translation? I use Vonage for land based calls, and have used the text translation. It works pretty damn well.
There is a difference between voicemail and actual conversation
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This is starts getting on my nerves...I didn't not login, I leave browser opened overnight. Refreshing the page doesn't help, unless I do "forced" refresh with SHIFT+REFRESH..
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The hardware isn't there for it on the atrix if I remember correctly unless you use speaker phone you only end up recording your section of the call.
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What app allows you to record with the speaker phone going? I've tried a couple but it glitches out. Looking to do a interview for a student newspaper, so I'm not too worried about privacy.
Hi, i plan to develop some app, which will be recording calls, and i would like to use class MediaRecorder with parameter VOICE_CALL. I dont need this app to work on multiple phone models, i need to find just one model which is able to record calls. The best choice would be model which has "native" support of call recording and no customizations(root, custom roms, kernels) are needed.
This app has list of supported devices, does it mean that all listed devices are able to record calls with MediaRecorder?
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schass.recording.call&feature=search_result
sry, cant post links
Ty for help
Experiencie
I try many apps in the past for some my problem, and :
Auto Call Recorder: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.callrecorder&feature=search_result
Call Recorder: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=polis.app.callrecorder&feature=search_result
(and others apps too, but this two are the best in my opinion)
The best option (for me) is Auto Call Recorder, so I bought that apps (the version without ads). It's a very good apps with many configurations. I recommend you look the apps al take an idea of the options. It's simple, and powerful (great combination).
i am not looking for existing application, i am trying to find some phone which is able to record phone calls using android Class MediaRecorder.
I recommend Chinese phones. That apps say in the "about us" and in the "FAQ", they use android Class MediaRecorder (not Root Requiered)
But have a problem, in brand phones (like motorola milestone 2 or samsung) only record from the speaker and not from the Call
I don't have that problem because I use Chinese Phone (Star x18i and LT18i) and work perfect the record from the Call. But in a Milestone of a friend have that problem. Also we root it and try again, so the problem continue.
Try to research that, maybe I'm wrong but maybe not. Search include the Google Play and you found in the comments many persons who say the don't work in "brands phones"
I have Galaxy S5, T-Mobile is my service provider. I purchased an app threw play store on my device, by Clever Mobile applications CALL RECORDER. I can barely hear the other party. On the help menu it said to go to this thread with more questions.
How do I set this up that it can work properly. I mostly only record conference calls there for the other party is in speaker mode. It is more crucial that.they come in loud and clear.
Does this software really work with my device, can it be set.that it does? If not is there a software out there that does work and be set up properly on my phone?
I am willing.to pay for these services.
robjbas said:
I have Galaxy S5, T-Mobile is my service provider. I purchased an app threw play store on my device, by Clever Mobile applications CALL RECORDER. I can barely hear the other party. On the help menu it said to go to this thread with more questions.
How do I set this up that it can work properly. I mostly only record conference calls there for the other party is in speaker mode. It is more crucial that.they come in loud and clear.
Does this software really work with my device, can it be set.that it does? If not is there a software out there that does work and be set up properly on my phone?
I am willing.to pay for these services.
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To set up call recording on your phone is a simple feature.xml edit in your system/csc folder.
I am a real novice with these devices and computers. How do I get to these folders? Is there somewhere I can bring the phone so it can be done?