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Just found a new stylus by wacom,bamboo stylus
http://www.wacom.eu/index2.asp?lang=en
Looks promising, should be due out this month. It has the thinnest nib of any stylus on the market, and since I take alot of stylus notes (maple paint and genial) I think this is a must have for me.
I have ordered it from their site, delivery is within 14 days, i am currently using the Boxwave one but like this one because it is the size of an average ball point pen which I would prefer. Hope it works as well as or better than the Boxwave. I went for it because of wacom's reputation.
Can be ordered from here:
http://eu.shop.wacom.eu/Bamboo/Bamboo-Stylus/Bamboo-Stylus?c=9149
ordered a dagi one as the bamboo looks pretty pricey for.....a possibly better designed rubber nub. I use a wacom tablet and know they make some nice stuff, but it doesn't seem to be much different than the cheaper alternatives out there.
The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
lacrossev said:
ordered a dagi one ....The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
Think will order one, will give a review of it when received, but probably be a few weeks before I get it
does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
bdangol said:
does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
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Its not anything that will work like a wacom tablet + their stylus. This is just a regular capacitive stylus with the nub at the end of it, it just so happens that wacom makes it. Theres no interactivity between the stylus and the device other than the contact of the nib. So yea, it will work fine with the TF101, as will all capactive styli on the market today.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
I ordered the DAGI too.
I'll also provide feedback once I receive it.
mias1 said:
That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
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Well the way I see it when u are handwriting your movements should just follow your first stroke. I tried writing quickly and found the dot to be useless because I'm writing so fast I'm just going by muscle memory instead of trying to aim it
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I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
Discusbass said:
I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
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I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
HasC said:
I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
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first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
danielcmacedo said:
first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
HasC said:
Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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That looks awesome, im going to use it for marking up pdf drawings in the field. If i can keep somewhat a straightish line its a winner.
@ Delecron:
You can draw lines using Repligo reader or EZpdf which also allows you to draw in freehand if necessary.
HasC said:
Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
tonyz3 said:
Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
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Had an email from the developer a couple of days ago where he apologised for not getting back to an email that I had sent him when he first put the software on the market where I requested from him a few changes such as having the undo and other tools at the top instead of having to select them via the menu option. He has done this and made a few other changes that enhance the software e.g. the little arrows on the bottom corner on the right to position the writing area etc.
Hopefully he should be releasing the full version fairly soon because he also advised that the reason for late response to emails was because he is hard at work improving the software before release which in his estimation is a couple of weeks.
I am checking for software updates daily for Tabnotes as I too can see the potential of this program and it is definitely my first choice for producing hand written notes on my tablet.
Too costly, even though the quality is there I just can't pay that much. Probably going to buy a few of these.
anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
freakboy13 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
Accophox said:
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
Capacitive stylus vs. Active Digitizer
stratax said:
no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: (link) this is how it works
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
mikeschevelle said:
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
Vikingpus said:
This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
stratax said:
what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
mikeschevelle said:
Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
gypsy214 said:
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
ph00ny said:
My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
mikeschevelle said:
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm
Just wondering if anyone has tried another stylus with the Pro? I'm thinking of getting the new version of the Bamboo Feel, but haven't heard if it is compatible or not. Are there any thicker styli with erasers, by any chance?
I want to know about this, too
ExtremeRyno said:
Just wondering if anyone has tried another stylus with the Pro? I'm thinking of getting the new version of the Bamboo Feel, but haven't heard if it is compatible or not. Are there any thicker styli with erasers, by any chance?
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Planning to do a lot of drawing on this tab, when the LTE version drops.
ExtremeRyno said:
Just wondering if anyone has tried another stylus with the Pro? I'm thinking of getting the new version of the Bamboo Feel, but haven't heard if it is compatible or not. Are there any thicker styli with erasers, by any chance?
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Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2 and it works like a charm. Much better then the twig that comes with the tablet
amazonDOTcom/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus--S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393434446&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s-pen+stylus+pen+with+eraser
hope this helps
-rising
risingdead15 said:
Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2 and it works like a charm. Much better then the twig that comes with the tablet
amazonDOTcom/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus--S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393434446&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s-pen+stylus+pen+with+eraser
hope this helps
-rising
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Can you confirm is this stylus pixel accurate with the Note 12.2? Many times, even though they work, other styluses are off by a few pixels to one side. I'd hate to see someone needing a better pen for serious artwork run into this without knowing about it.
I notice that two of the reviews of that pen list that problem with Galaxy tablets.
Would really appreciate if you could check and let us know for certain.
I checked and the penabled stylus with my old LE1600 Tablet PC works with the 12.2, but of course it has the dreaded 4 pixel shift problem. It's such a rotten shame, because in every way it's a fantastic stylus and feels so comfortable in the hand (and there are tons of penabled Tablet PC styluses that are cheap). It makes the 12.2 feel like a really good drawing tablet compared to so-so with the s-Pen, but that pixel shift means it can't really be used for accurate drawing. It's too much of a difference from where you're pressing and where the line gets drawn to be trusted for serious drawing, but it'll pass for note-taking.
Anyway, please check this out if you can.
risingdead15 said:
Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2
-rising
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Sweet! That is exactly what I was looking for. Perfect.
Thanks, rd15.
zaptoons said:
Can you confirm is this stylus pixel accurate with the Note 12.2? Many times, even though they work, other styluses are off by a few pixels to one side. I'd hate to see someone needing a better pen for serious artwork run into this without knowing about it.
I notice that two of the reviews of that pen list that problem with Galaxy tablets.
Would really appreciate if you could check and let us know for certain.
I checked and the penabled stylus with my old LE1600 Tablet PC works with the 12.2, but of course it has the dreaded 4 pixel shift problem. It's such a rotten shame, because in every way it's a fantastic stylus and feels so comfortable in the hand (and there are tons of penabled Tablet PC styluses that are cheap). It makes the 12.2 feel like a really good drawing tablet compared to so-so with the s-Pen, but that pixel shift means it can't really be used for accurate drawing. It's too much of a difference from where you're pressing and where the line gets drawn to be trusted for serious drawing, but it'll pass for note-taking.
Anyway, please check this out if you can.
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Hi
I just recieved another one and they both work perfectly for me, the marks are made exactly on the tip. I use this tablet mostly for taking notes in the class and sometimes drawing anatomy structures (med student). Absolutely love it
This is the exact one i got -
paydealsDOTcom/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Pen-Stylus-Eraser/dp/B009QW3SGQ
Hope this helps
rising
zaptoons said:
Can you confirm is this stylus pixel accurate with the Note 12.2? Many times, even though they work, other styluses are off by a few pixels to one side. I'd hate to see someone needing a better pen for serious artwork run into this without knowing about it.
I notice that two of the reviews of that pen list that problem with Galaxy tablets.
Would really appreciate if you could check and let us know for certain.
I checked and the penabled stylus with my old LE1600 Tablet PC works with the 12.2, but of course it has the dreaded 4 pixel shift problem. It's such a rotten shame, because in every way it's a fantastic stylus and feels so comfortable in the hand (and there are tons of penabled Tablet PC styluses that are cheap). It makes the 12.2 feel like a really good drawing tablet compared to so-so with the s-Pen, but that pixel shift means it can't really be used for accurate drawing. It's too much of a difference from where you're pressing and where the line gets drawn to be trusted for serious drawing, but it'll pass for note-taking.
Anyway, please check this out if you can.
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+1 on this. Just what I want to know.
Anyone who can advise on stylus accuracy, for those of us who haven't picked up a Pro 12.2, thank you in advance for all specifics you can share!
Hi Guys,
So brief update on the 8pi pen, I have attached some pics that should clarify that the pen works the same as the stock pen. I have had no issues with writing, drawing or otherwise with either pens.
Hope this answers your questions
Rising
Writing
dropboxDOTcom/s/ft2z3csp44asfzr/SPEN-TEST.png
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dropboxDOTcom/s/gn7eagcyxcylrki/SPen-Stock.JPG
Samsung 8pi Pen I mentioned in my previous post
dropboxDOTcom/s/g6rfaekxif8xj2r/SPen%208pi.JPG
risingdead15 said:
Hi Guys,
So brief update on the 8pi pen, I have attached some pics that should clarify that the pen works the same as the stock pen. I have had no issues with writing, drawing or otherwise with either pens.
Hope this answers your questions
Rising
Writing
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dropboxDOTcom/s/gn7eagcyxcylrki/SPen-Stock.JPG
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dropboxDOTcom/s/g6rfaekxif8xj2r/SPen%208pi.JPG
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Thank you for that! Good to know.
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Samsung 8pi Pen I mentioned in my previous post
dropboxDOTcom/s/g6rfaekxif8xj2r/SPen%208pi.JPG
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I've ordered one, now. Thanks for the info on this. Now, I just need to get a tablet....Hmm....
Change tips?
risingdead15 said:
Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2 and it works like a charm. Much better then the twig that comes with the tablet
amazonDOTcom/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus--S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393434446&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s-pen+stylus+pen+with+eraser
hope this helps
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Hello,
Could you please tell me if you can replace the hard white tips with softer black rubber(ish) tips with the 8pi? I marked up my o.g. 10.1 with hard plastic ones(I have a heavy hand when drawing) & i don't wanna have that happen on this tab. Thank you advance.
loQ on said:
Hello,
Could you please tell me if you can replace the hard white tips with softer black rubber(ish) tips with the 8pi? I marked up my o.g. 10.1 with hard plastic ones(I have a heavy hand when drawing) & i don't wanna have that happen on this tab. Thank you advance.
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The pen comes with both hard and soft tips, you can replace them, I personally use hard tips on if I have a screen protector on, otherwise soft tips work nicely
appreciate the response
risingdead15 said:
The pen comes with both hard and soft tips, you can replace them, I personally use hard tips on if I have a screen protector on, otherwise soft tips work nicely
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That's good news for me. So I just ordered it. & I appreciate the screensaver tip but I can't bring myself to cover this delicious feeling glass >.<
ExtremeRyno said:
I've ordered one, now. Thanks for the info on this. Now, I just need to get a tablet....Hmm....
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ExtremeRyno, please post your results with the stylus here. And any drawings you care to share. I'm waiting for the ATT LTE version to come out, so I'm curious about what drawing apps you use, how the accuracy feels to you &c.
(On the iPad, I've gotten a lot of good stuff with Sketchbook Pro—but the fat-tipped styluses bite!)
JSandel said:
ExtremeRyno, please post your results with the stylus here. And any drawings you care to share. I'm waiting for the ATT LTE version to come out, so I'm curious about what drawing apps you use, how the accuracy feels to you &c.
(On the iPad, I've gotten a lot of good stuff with Sketchbook Pro—but the fat-tipped styluses bite!)
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Very satisfied with my purchase. The size is just about the same as a regular ink pen. I'm thinking of putting on a rubber grip on it..just gotta figure out what to do about the button. I guess mark the location with a paint drop.
Pics:
http://imgur.com/a/fpIb8
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Very satisfied with my purchase. The size is just about the same as a regular ink pen.
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That's great —I'm sold. Thank you for posting. Love the artwork!
I ordered the following, thought it was the same, but it has the offset :-/ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5ZQX0A/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Buji said:
I ordered the following, thought it was the same, but it has the offset :-/ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5ZQX0A/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Me too. I thought based on previous comments that this would be perfect.
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http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus-ET-S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
This is the exact one I got. I'm 100% satisfied, and I'm not experiencing any offset. Have you tried changing out the nib for one that came with your original S-Pen? Not sure if that would make a difference, but worth a shot, I guess.
Bamboo is ok, hard tip. The Samsung be pen works great. Full thick pen. Pricey but nice
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Can it be easily rooted on the latest firmware? Has the audio lag, touchscreen and lag issues been resolved? When was the last time the uk model has had a firmware update?
Is it true the micro sd card is read only on this tablet? Can file browsers like astro file browser acess the micro sd card ok?
Does the speaker placement cause any issues? Especially if you are going the be holding the tablet there most of the time.
How long does it take to charge the tablet?
Sorry for the long questions but i need to be sure that this is the right tablet for me, Samsung don't offer 32gb model in the uk so I'm really interested in the Z2 because of this.
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Can it be easily rooted on the latest firmware?
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Yes. I used this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792056 and it worked flawlessly. Rooted in just over a minute.
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Has the audio lag, touchscreen and lag issues been resolved?
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I've not seen any audio lag. The touchscreen isn't the most responsive I've ever used, but is fine with fingers. Stylii are a different issue - I've not found one that works well. I've not seen any lag whilst using the tablet (except for the odd microstutter when Google play decides to update everything at once). I updated to the latest firmware as soon as I got it, so I don't know what these were like before.
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When was the last time the uk model has had a firmware update?
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17.1.1.A.0.402 is the latest, released at the end of May.
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Is it true the micro sd card is read only on this tablet? Can file browsers like astro file browser acess the micro sd card ok?
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All KitKat devices restrict apps writing to the SD (Astro for example would only be able to read the SD). By default you can only write to the SD by plugging into a computer and copying files across. However, if you're rooted, you can just install SD Fix (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix) and get the pre-KitKat behaviour.
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Does the speaker placement cause any issues? Especially if you are going the be holding the tablet there most of the time.
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They're a little low, but the tablet is so light that you're not likely to be gripping it hard enough to distort the sound. Personally I tend to hold it one handed in landscape like I would a book, with my thumb on the front of bottom edge and my fingers splayed out on the back. This way the speakers are completely unobstructed.
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How long does it take to charge the tablet?
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I've not charged from empty, but using the charger it comes with seems pretty quick. I can put it on charge, go make a cup of coffee, get back and it will have gone up by a percent or two. I bought the magnetic dock, and just leave it there when I'm not using it. The battery easily gets me through a day of heavy use, and when I'm at home it just sits on the dock.
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Sorry for the long questions but i need to be sure that this is the right tablet for me, Samsung don't offer 32gb model in the uk so I'm really interested in the Z2 because of this.
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I had exactly the same thoughts (also in the UK). 32GB is the way to go. I've had mine about a month now. I've installed pretty much every app/game I'm going to need, and the internal memory is about 80% full.
Some more thoughts:
Pros
This thing is so thin and light that I forget I'm carrying it in my bag. For me, that's a huge bonus over other tablets, and more than makes up for its flaws. It's noticeably easier to hold than an iPad Air over long periods.
Sony's interface is very close to stock Android, and most bloatware (of which there is very little) can be uninstalled.
Waterproofing is nice to have. I thought it was a gimmick at first (does anyone actually use these in the bath?), but I use mine to display recipes whilst cooking, and it's nice to not have to worry about splashes and spills.
Vibration - it lets me know that I've turned it on. I wouldn't miss this if it were missing, but it's nice to have.
NFC. I love NFC. I have a tag on the bottom of my universal remote; I use the remote to turn on my Hi-Fi, swipe the tag across the tablet, and the tablet connects over Apt-X Bluetooth and starts Spotify. Magic!
Dual-shock compatibility. It just works (you need an OTG cable for the initial pairing, after that it's Bluetooth), and is very slick.
Cons
Screen resolution isn't as nice as other tablets. This isn't noticeable when used normally, though if it's closer to your face (e.g. you're lying down using it in bed), you can see the pixels.
The waterproof flaps on the SD and USB connectors feel a bit flimsy. I'd highly recommend the magnetic doc, or a connector adapter such as the Magnector-X for charging, so that you don't have to open the port covers.
It's a fingerprint magnet (but you can just wash it clean, because it's waterproof).
The IR blaster seems to have a very narrow "beam" so is a bit tricky to use. There is also a ~1 second delay between pressing the onscreen button and the IR signal being sent. I've given up on using it, but I'm not sure how much use I'd have gotten from it anyway.
I'd go to a store and have a play if I were you. Try and find one that's not got a huge security lock on it; I've seen this on display in some stores with a metal cage around it, or a huge self retracting security cable, which makes it hard to get a feel for how it would be to hold.
i know about the screen resolution, it's not as great compared samsung note 2014 but the Z2 has the advantage of more memory space, i think that is a good trade off imo.
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me, i like that it's light so i can sit down comfortably with it for long periods, i have the galaxy note 10.1 2012 model and it's quite heavy compared to current models out there now, especially for long periods of use.
that is a bonus that the tablet supports the dual shock 3 out of the box, on other devices you have to root to use the controller wirelessly.
the waterproof flaps you say are a issue, so if you are using it in a water environment wouldn't that cause problems?
the galaxy note 10.1 2012 is just as bad when it comes to finger prints but it can be easily cleaned.
i didn't know it has vibration feedback, no website lists this feature, so thanks for telling me that.
samsung is king of bloat, that is good that there is minimal it saves me having to remove it all when i set it up lol.
battery life sounds good, maybe even better than the galaxy note 2012, quite frequently i'm charging the device during the day while using it. it could be because the device is getting old though.
i use my stylus a lot on my galaxy tablet, can you offer me some feedback if you have used one on this tablet? that is good to hear that it's easily rooted.
and thanks a lot for the reply.
I am very happy with my Z2 tablet.
I've not had any issues with the waterproof flaps. One covers the microsd (and sim) slot and the other covers the usb port. If you get a wireless charger, you won't find yourself opening the flaps often. They stay in place and have not opened by themselves. I don't think you'll have problems with waterproofness.
I personally find that the screen keeps quite clean. It's a MAJOR improvement in this respect compared to my previous generation Xperia Tablet Z.
I've tried using the Z2 Tablet with a stylus (Lynktec Rechargeable Apex Fine Point Active Stylus). It's been disappointing. Writing is nowhere as precise as with the in-built stylus on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. If using a stylus with my tablet were important to me, I would have gone with a Galaxy Note tablet.
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i know about the screen resolution, it's not as great compared samsung note 2014 but the Z2 has the advantage of more memory space, i think that is a good trade off imo.
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me, i like that it's light so i can sit down comfortably with it for long periods, i have the galaxy note 10.1 2012 model and it's quite heavy compared to current models out there now, especially for long periods of use.
that is a bonus that the tablet supports the dual shock 3 out of the box, on other devices you have to root to use the controller wirelessly.
the waterproof flaps you say are a issue, so if you are using it in a water environment wouldn't that cause problems?
the galaxy note 10.1 2012 is just as bad when it comes to finger prints but it can be easily cleaned.
i didn't know it has vibration feedback, no website lists this feature, so thanks for telling me that.
samsung is king of bloat, that is good that there is minimal it saves me having to remove it all when i set it up lol.
battery life sounds good, maybe even better than the galaxy note 2012, quite frequently i'm charging the device during the day while using it. it could be because the device is getting old though.
i use my stylus a lot on my galaxy tablet, can you offer me some feedback if you have used one on this tablet? that is good to hear that it's easily rooted.
and thanks a lot for the reply.
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i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me
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I don't think you'll have any problems then. The top and bottom bezels (as viewed in landscape) are large enough that if held in portrait mode you're very unlikely to ever cover the speakers. Assuming you're right handed and holding the tablet with your left (this is how I read newspapers and magazines on mine), one speaker will be about an inch diagonally down and to the right of the base of your thumb, and the other will be well out of the way at what is now the top of the tablet.
It also worth pointing out that the tablet allows screen rotation in all directions (is this true of all tablets? My phone doesn't do this by default), so if you do ever find that the speaker placement is an issue, you can just rotate it 180°.
DaddyWhale said:
I've not had any issues with the waterproof flaps. One covers the microsd (and sim) slot and the other covers the usb port. If you get a wireless charger, you won't find yourself opening the flaps often. They stay in place and have not opened by themselves. I don't think you'll have problems with waterproofness.
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Agreed. I should have been clearer when I listed the flaps as a con in my post above. I've got no concerns about their waterproofness. My concern is that if I was opening the USB cover daily to charge the tablet it might become weakened or damaged, which is why I bought the magnetic chargers. The port covers feel quite delicate when opened, but very secure when closed.
DaddyWhale said:
I've tried using the Z2 Tablet with a stylus (Lynktec Rechargeable Apex Fine Point Active Stylus). It's been disappointing. Writing is nowhere as precise as with the in-built stylus on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. If using a stylus with my tablet were important to me, I would have gone with a Galaxy Note tablet.
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Same here. I've tried a DAGi 701 stylus (which is passive). Sketching is doable, but the display doesn't seem sensitive enough for writing. I hope that this is a software thing, though even if it were fixed, the extra features of the Note series such as the hover and palm detection would make it much more suited to note taking. I see the Z2 as more of a media consumption, rather than creation, device.
ok, thanks for the feedback guys, ill take all your replies in consideration when deciding, i use the black rubber end stylus, the one you mentioned is similar to the stylus that is included with the note 10.1, but it seems that no matter what stylus i will use i think i'll get the same results which is a shame really.
I just bought a note 12.2 but I want a stylus pen with eraser functionality so that I can avoid manually toggling the eraser. I know that it works on Samsung apps, sketchbook and other big name software. However, Amazon's question and answer does not make it very clear if it works on smaller 3rd party apps like Lecture Notes.
Can someone test their stylus eraser and see if it works on Lecture Notes (free trial)?
Here is the stylus:
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Genuin...d=1449214660&sr=8-1&keywords=stylus+note+12.2
Here is the specific app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotestrial&hl=en
Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Thanks. I think the programmer needs to program it with the API and the feature is not system wide. I'm very happy about this.
btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
poetryrocksalot said:
So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
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Yes, I think it's qicker anyway
This pen might work with squid.
Such a shame that one note is so crap on Android.
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This pen might work with squid.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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There are no reviews on the Lenova pen, so I didn't buy it.
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And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
The NotePro (All versions) have a sensitivity of 1024 levels. The only part of the pens that matter in terms of sensitivity is what they support. (A pen that supports, say, 500 levels, will never offer 1024.)
All Wacom pens support at least 1024 levels.
The Lenovo pen also supports 1024 levels.
Both pens have the exact same sensitivity level on this device.
Obviously the Wacom pen is designed specifically for Note devices as both the pen and the sensors are made by Wacom, whereas the Lenovo is not. I can't say if that affects usability, as I haven't tried the Lenovo pen.
Mind you, I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
I've been a Wacom (Intuos and Cintiq) user for years, So yea, I'm a bit biased. :laugh: I stuck with the brand I know. (Wacom is the professional brand for digital artists, from amateurs to Hollywood).
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
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Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
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Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
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Well, I'm not really an expert.:laugh: I've just got a bit of experience with wacom's tech, and an unhealthy habit of wanting to know how everything works. :laugh:
That's actually ridiculously simple once you realize it. There is a difference in the various nibs (the tips), which affect the result when drawing, as well as 'paper'resistance on the screen. I don't know precisely which nibs came with which pen, but they vary in size, material and effect. I think the Bamboo Smart came with two different types of tips, which can be swapped. (That's what that silly piece of metal that looks like a weird pincer is for.)
Also, the driver on the tab is configured for Wacom pens. As such, the result with a non-Wacom pen can be a little lacking in finesse. Then again, thicker isn't always an advantage when you're sketching, but for non-precise tasks a more 'solid' line might be more preferable.
got it
Thanks for useful information, ShadowLea
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I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
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Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
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Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
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I've got the CS-400. There is only one version of the Carbon, as far as I'm aware.
It did have an offset at the beginning, had to recalibrate it. Mind you, it will always have an offset when held at an angle. The sensors work in a straight line. 1mm is fairly normal at 45º. (Also, that way you can see what you're drawing.)
The guide as to how to do that is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
(I'll quote it here)
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There's two ways to go about this. The 'Viking equivalent of try this first' and the 'If that doesn't work, let's try the more technical one.'
Firstly, try giving it a good solid whack on the edge of a table. As ridiculous as that sounds (and makes you look), this does usually have an effect. Often, the nib isn't properly inserted, or sits at just the wrong angle. Brute force tends to work.
If that doesn't help, it's time for the proper technical solution. This works on pretty much any magnetic stylus with a button, including the Spen.
Requirements:
- A small flat screwdriver
- A non-cluttered room (preferably without carpets)
- The pen
- The tablet
Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
The thing jumps, so be careful! (Hence the clean, carpet free room. I had to use a vacuum cleaner to recover mine once..) If the screwdriver doesn't work, try a needle or a razor (mind your fingers!).
Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
Carefully make tiny adjustments (and I mean really tiny) to these dials. Test it on the tab every time, you don't need to re-attach the button to test it. They go both ways, so play with it 'till you're satisfied with the result. (On my previous one I had to turn it a whole 85º, on my new one only 5º.)
Step 3) If you're happy with the result, click the button back on. It only fits one way, and needs to be inserted very much like a battery: one side first. (The side pointing towards the cap)
That's it
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I have that samsung spen with eraser and use it every day with LectureNotes. The eraser and side button both work beautifully with LectureNotes. Actually, LN allows you to customize the behavior of the eraser and the side button independently.
The stock s-pen has pretty decent eraser functionality via the button on the side in some apps like Squid. Squid really is fantastic -- I've used it for class notes for more than a year and a half now.
I have this stylus and the eraser works on Squid and LectureNotes