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As we know it, the Nexus 6P just got released and there are some big questions out there. I have the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus. Some questions that other people ask as well as I is what makes you want to buy the Nexus 6P or use the Nexus 6P over a phone like the Note 4, Note5, or iPhone 6S/6S Plus? Any thoughts or discussions?
Price. Pure android. Thats about it.
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Nexus for the WIN!!
Pure android, good camera, good battery life, and so many options to select rom / kernel. Came from note 5 and now I am happy with my device.
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As we know it, the Nexus 6P just got released and there are some big questions out there. I have the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus. Some questions that other people ask as well as I is what makes you want to buy the Nexus 6P or use the Nexus 6P over a phone like the Note 4, Note5, or iPhone 6S/6S Plus? Any thoughts or discussions?
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reeeeally not trying to be an arse, but the device has been out long enough now that there are countless posts, threads and articles on this exact topic
I also had all 3 and this phone hands down is better then the other 2.. I really think my Note 4 was a lemon because it lagged really bad right from the beginning and after numerous hard resets I sold it and just got a 6+ until this came out. Wont ever look back and wished I hadnt
^good choice!
I've had the G4, iPhone 6s, and Note 5 this past year. The 6P is by far the best phone out of all of them with the lowest number of compromises. After using the Nexus, I never want to use an OEM-skinned phone again on an ancient OS!
I'm surprised to see I can't even record video in 1080P at 60fps with the Nexus 6P. I use that mode all the time for video.
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this is the Google’s Finest Android Phone Yet
Here is my feedback on it..
Nexus 6P: absolutely stunning design, feels good in the hand, one of the fastest and stable phones to date, beautiful camera quality, and yes pure androird.
Now the bad, BATTERY!!, for the size of the battery, i would not get over 4.5hrs of sot, this is crazy having most of the stuff and services i did not need turned off. Display very very low, no facebook app to drain, timed syns, it has to honestly be one of the worst batteries i have had. I actually sold it due to the battery.
I then went to a note 4 on kit kat. And my sot streaming netflix, facebook, over 2.5 hrs of calls, everything on 4glte no wifi what do ever since im on the road, i get from 6 to 7.5 sot, even though the note 4 isnt as fast, i cant see myself investing 500$+ for a phone whose battery wont last.
And the note 4 has the good old removable battery and sd card.
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Here is my feedback on it..
Nexus 6P: absolutely stunning design, feels good in the hand, one of the fastest and stable phones to date, beautiful camera quality, and yes pure androird.
Now the bad, BATTERY!!, for the size of the battery, i would not get over 4.5hrs of sot, this is crazy having most of the stuff and services i did not need turned off. Display very very low, no facebook app to drain, timed syns, it has to honestly be one of the worst batteries i have had. I actually sold it due to the battery.
I then went to a note 4 on kit kat. And my sot streaming netflix, facebook, over 2.5 hrs of calls, everything on 4glte no wifi what do ever since im on the road, i get from 6 to 7.5 sot, even though the note 4 isnt as fast, i cant see myself investing 500$+ for a phone whose battery wont last.
And the note 4 has the good old removable battery and sd card.
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7.5 hours SOT? Wow. Never needed that much SOT.
Fast updates (my Samsung is still on 5.0.1)
Pure android
Good camera
Good battery life
Easy to root
Stereo speakers
Fast fingerprint reader
I change my note 5 for nexus 6p. For me is better, more fluid, more roms, more updates, no lags.
Best phone I ve used in years.. Keep up the good work google!!! Pure stock is flawless, no need to root!
Only down side is the too sensible power button
I also find the power button to be very sensible- very sensible, indeed...
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I also find the power button to be very sensible- very sensible, indeed...
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Haha, makes more sense than a coin change machine...
Guys
You write a lot regarding comparison to Note5/S6E+ and similar.
Currently i own Note4 and here are main factors which stops me from going to 6P.
- camera (OIS and overall quality)
- on screen buttons (making in fact screen smaller during daily activities , not movies or gaming)
At the moment i can't imagine phone smaller than 5,7 and use my Note for photo and movie watching.
DO You think this particular experience might be better on Note5/S6E+
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Guys
You write a lot regarding comparison to Note5/S6E+ and similar.
Currently i own Note4 and here are main factors which stops me from going to 6P.
- camera (OIS and overall quality)
- on screen buttons (making in fact screen smaller during daily activities , not movies or gaming)
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I think for the majority of users, images taken without OIS are good enough for what they actually take pictures for: social media sharing, sending to friends and family, putting on their blog, keeping in photo albums, etc. I'd imagine most folks in those audiences can't tell the difference between an image shot with OIS hardware and the same image shot without, especially considering the 6p has a fantastic camera to begin with. See some examples of images shot from both devices and judge for yourself.
Aesthetically, you can hide the on-screen buttons much like you hide the taskbar in Windows, if you need to reclaim your screen real estate. You can even run a full swipe-gesture navigation setup (or something like PIE) if you really don't like persistent on-screen nav buttons. I also think the Nexus 6p looks much sleeker without hardware buttons on the front. There's nothing to accidentally press either when storing or transporting the device.
The dual, front facing stereo speakers on the 6p sound wonderful, and I can't emphasize this point enough. Coming from a mono speaker like an iPhone or a Note, you really can tell the difference. Add Viper on top of that to tune the sound, and you've got a clear and rich soundstage produced from your phone. Mono speakers just can't hold a candle to the 6p's.
Just a little Nexus apologetics from a recent convert.
Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
patci32 said:
Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
iMaterial said:
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
iMaterial said:
Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
iMaterial said:
4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
Sunil_Kaura said:
I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
iMaterial said:
The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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So I am getting my wife the Mate 10 Pro to finally upgrade from her Note 4. While she is not a fan of 18:9 screens (I hate them too) there is not much to choose for OLED and newer phones these days.
I was debating the OnePlus 5T over this but it seems the camera is still better on this one plus the unit looks better to my eyes which is a plus for my wife too.
Just wondering if there are any issues I should know before I buy it.
Thanks
Yes there are many
Don't believe the reviews
The only good thing is the camera
Phone lags
Bad at games
Battery is bad. Don't believe the hype. To make it good u have to use Huawei battery to kill every single app in the background
It suffers when it comes to smoothnes and scrolling
Emui is just BAD
Stereo speakers is a joke. The secondary is extremely low
I believe it's a 800usd phone... U better think Samsung or pixel or even v30 from lg
Don't listen to the guy above, it's an amazing phone. He must have wandered in from the samsung forum.
I've had samsung, LG, motorola and nexus phones and this is the best by far. I can easily go a full two days without charging regarding the battery life. Emui takes some getting used to but grows on you and gives you full control over the system and apps which stock and other brands do not.
The camera could be better but it is still damn good for a phone and better than most other phones.
As for the 5T I think the main differences are the dust and waterproofing and the battery life, u have to decide if that's worth the extra money.
Any phone you buy can have problems! It is the luck of the draw! Just go to any forum you want and read about the problems they "ALL" have. Much of it depends on the phone you actually receive and how you use it!
I have the Mate 10 (non-pro) and I feel that it is superior to the pro version for many reasons that can be found in the spec comparison. I prefer an LCD screen! But either way it all depends on the phone and you. I think mine is the best phone I have ever owned (and I have owned too many to remember) and I have now lost the desire to even look at anything else to possibly replace it for years to come! Also, the way I use it I can go 4 days...yes that is FOUR DAYS between charges. Show me any other phone that can do that!
I have a mate 10 pro for a few days now and I can sum it up with two words : thumbs up ! I upgraded from a note 3 (battery dead, my only issue to be honest), and you really feel the difference thanks to the camera, the autonomy and you'll get used to the MIUI quck fast. if not, just change the laucher (NOVA, Microsoft, etc.). It really looks and feels great. The only BS part of it IMAO is the AI thing, you cannot feel it at all. But for all the other aspects, go ahead...
Seriously some owners are just weird and not honest
i am not from Samsung forums (whatever that is) i have the mate 10 since day one it was launched here in Kuwait. The only difference is I prefer to give a true life experience not if I like it or not.
I DARE anyone says it doesn't lag to open champions game for example and video record it and share to prove how smooth it is. Or even scroll in Instagram or Facebook. It feels pathetic.
I DARE anyone to turn on all notifications from social media and emails and show us the battery and how great it is. It won't last 4 hours SOT.
I DARE anyone says it's smooth to compare the scrolling with any other flagship from 2016 not even 2017
I have the OnePlus 5 and in comparison the mate 10 is a heckup joke
I dare anyone says emui does't feel like a stupid copycat version of a Chinese knockoff of iOS
I still owns the device cuz of infrared, PC mood and i like the monochrome camera but to advice someone to own it and spread what's proven to be pure lies is not my cup of tea.
I have no speed problems or whatsoever, besides there are a few comparison between the 10 Pro and the Pixel 2XL and both are on pair on speed.
Tbh for me EMUI was always nice and smooth, since I tried it the first time on the ascend mate 7, specially when compared with Samsung Experience, although the Note8 seems to bug down much less often.
EMUI does many things its own way, like it's not possible to expand notifications on the lockscreen, neither is it possible to drag the notification shade down from the lock screen.
Although I've found a way to keep background apps working just by putting them on the system exception, some apps specially the ones not optimized for Oreo might still give you headache, between EMUI own battery saver and Oreo's default background app policies, you might find some apps that won't run properly if they need to do stuff on the background.
There is not smart unlock based on location or voice.
As for bugs, the most annoying I have is Bluetooth audio is half broken, AAC codec cannot be selected.
Huawei needs to improve the portrait mode, specially on the front camera.... the Pixel app port does a much better job.
Cameras are amazing, specially if you wanna do things on manual.
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Yes there are many
Don't believe the reviews
The only good thing is the camera
Phone lags
Bad at games
Battery is bad. Don't believe the hype. To make it good u have to use Huawei battery to kill every single app in the background
It suffers when it comes to smoothnes and scrolling
Emui is just BAD
Stereo speakers is a joke. The secondary is extremely low
I believe it's a 800usd phone... U better think Samsung or pixel or even v30 from lg
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My experience with the phone is basically the opposite of yours.
I'm very satisfied with the phone.
I upgraded from a Note 4 to the Mate 10 (non-pro) and would do so again. Definitely an adjustment period, but it's speedy and has an amazing battery. Routinely getting 8 hours screen on time and about 2 days of standby. But as others have said, the power management can be over-aggressive, so if you read the forums, there are some apps (like KinScreen) or scrollable calendar widgets that will keep being killed. The Huawei launcher also is useless IMO.
I installed Nova and then rooted, which enabled me to kill the system app Power Genius and I no longer had the apps dying issue, but still had my battery life (especially with a little tweaking using Greenify).
I like the non-pro model better (front finger-print scanner) and it doesn't seem to have the bluetooth sound issues that some are reporting on the pro.
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Seriously some owners are just weird and not honest
i am not from Samsung forums (whatever that is) i have the mate 10 since day one it was launched here in Kuwait. The only difference is I prefer to give a true life experience not if I like it or not.
I DARE anyone says it doesn't lag to open champions game for example and video record it and share to prove how smooth it is. Or even scroll in Instagram or Facebook. It feels pathetic.
I DARE anyone to turn on all notifications from social media and emails and show us the battery and how great it is. It won't last 4 hours SOT.
I DARE anyone says it's smooth to compare the scrolling with any other flagship from 2016 not even 2017
I have the OnePlus 5 and in comparison the mate 10 is a heckup joke
I dare anyone says emui does't feel like a stupid copycat version of a Chinese knockoff of iOS
I still owns the device cuz of infrared, PC mood and i like the monochrome camera but to advice someone to own it and spread what's proven to be pure lies is not my cup of tea.
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I came from OnePlus 5 and mate 10 pro feels equally smoother. Also I have all the main social apps installed with the Huawei battery manager disabled and I get easily 7 hours sot. A lot better then OnePlus 5.
Don't know about gaming because I'm not a gamer.
I don't understand the negative comments... Battery life is highly dependent on what you do. On WiFi you can get 7+h SOT, but when out and about using cellular it will be closer to 5 or maybe 4. The camera is very good, especially if you use manual controls but I wish it wouldn't completely crush noise in low light by making it way too soft (though I suppose this is a matter of taste).
If I were you I'd consider this phone mainly for the battery life and CONSISTENT performance. EMUI isn't broken but it certainly behaves strangely sometimes. E.g. sometimes when I open Gboard it goes underneath the navigation buttons which makes it impossible to use the space or change to numbers/symbols.
I would also say that this phone isn't worth $800. The Galaxy S9 isn't far off in terms of price and it's likely a better phone in everything except price and software.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't suffered from any significant slowdown and even if it does a simple cleanup from the phone manager will do the trick.
If you can get it for $600 then I think is a fantastic value and overall an excellent phone that I don't regret getting for the equivalent of €550 over a 30 month contract.
So as the title goes are you on the fence in your decision to buy the Mate 20 Pro?
Let's see if I can help in anyway with my honest review and thoughts about it.
Display: So this is a tense subject as you have probably read already that it has some issues (for some). Now I have a BOE display and not LG however both are being reported with the Green Hulk effect, I'm glad and extremely happy this is not an issue for me. The display is crisp and vibrant with fantastic details, as you would expect, the clarity is on point to. However perhaps this is a concern, I wouldn't worry and would purchase regardless, buy that's just me, maybe for you though this might be a turn off? I think this shouldn't stand in your way, maybe hold off for a couple of more weeks?
Performance: The Mate 20 Pro is absolutely fantastic with the Kirin 980, everything is extremely snappy and gets the job done, the only slight negative is ram management, this could be and hopefully will be improved, but this chip is just so so good, probably better then the Snapdragon 845. There are no stutters or freezes and all I can say is will a little more refined tuning through updates, it will only get better.
Camera: Now I haven't tested this enough yet, only had my Mate 20 Pro for a week or so, but from the images I have taken it performs great. AI does a great job (this can be turned off) if you don't like . The camera UI is nicely laid out and presentable, if you have a tripod you'll be able to get some nice long exposure shots, light trails ect and i love the simplicity in being able to do this with the Mate 20 (I also had the P20 Pro) and the camera on that was superb, this takes it to a nice new level with the addition of a wide angle lens. Is it the perfect camera? This is subjective as each eyes see different things, but it's a top performer thats for sure.
Battery: Well what can be said here is it's absolutely on point and even if your a heavy user like me, the Mate 20 Pro will very very easily get you through the day, and if your extreme and it doesn't quite, then the 40w charger has your back, it charges very very quickly.
Build & Design: This is always subjective as some like curved displays others not so much. The curve I like, still prefer a flat display if I'm completely honest, however it's a Evolved Samsung , nice and slim, solid, and feels great in hand, although the Twilight (absolutely stunning) is a bit slippery lol but I have no complaints with the design despite it having a resemblance to Samsung.
Features: This has all the bells and whistles as you'd expect , ip68, wireless charging, even reverse (although this is a gimmick) even retains the forgotten ir blaster (how about that) yes headphone jack is not present, but at least a dongle was included (cough cough Apple). Face ID works very well even in dark environments, UD Scanner, despite what YouTubers have said, it's more accurate and faster than my Note 9.
So Should you buy it?
Absolutely yes now there are a few other negatives that I will throw in, updates are well painfully slow, but we do get them eventually, and it has Android 9 out of the box, yes with EMUI, but that had improved, although still not the best, if you want to root and rom, then at this point forget about it, Huawei has bolted that door.
I honestly love the Mate 20 Pro, I still think as the best all round device is the Note 9, I am taking great joy in using the Mate 20 Pro, and it outshines the Note in many areas, Camera & Battery, but the Note is the complete package, with my Huawei a close second .
Yes I would recommend the Mate 20 Pro, so if your on the fence heck 14 day trial, don't like return, but I'm sure you will.
Hope this helps a little.....:good:
Agreed, my gestures animations are not smooth at all, but never saw them smooth on any phone, probably one of my apps causing it.
This phone potential is untapped, it needs software refinement to shine like it made to be, nonetheless it's the only high end phone i can recommend without hesitation.
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Agreed, my gestures animations are not smooth at all, but never saw them smooth on any phone, probably one of my apps causing it.
This phone potential is untapped, it needs software refinement to shine like it made to be, nonetheless it's the only high end phone i can recommend without hesitation.
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Weirdly I really think that the animations are pretty smooth on my Mate 20 pro, have you turned the animation speed to 0.5x in developer options?
Yeah doesn't help much, same thing was with mate 9 and Samsung.
It's slightly better when using navigation keys
Hi please, is it worth it to exchange mate 20 against pixel 3xl thank you
PS: I know I'm posting on wrong place, but the topic of mate 20 is dead
The regular mate 20? If you don't have to pay ANYTHING more... I'd probably consider it... Probably
I would do it, with at any hasitation... I 2ould kill for some aosp love.... hate how emui handles memory for instance... software ans support s#cks big time, the only things I love from my mate are the charging speed and camera
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I would do it, with at any hasitation... I 2ould kill for some aosp love.... hate how emui handles memory for instance... software ans support s#cks big time, the only things I love from my mate are the charging speed and camera
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Pixels have even worse memory management actually. I agree with you on the software front though, emui is definitely not something I like about this phone.
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Pixels have even worse memory management actually. I agree with you on the software front though, emui is definitely not something I like about this phone.
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I don't know about Pixel memory management, it should be fine now... I know it was an debacle, I thought Google had fixed that though........ any way.... last huawei for me ?
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I don't know about Pixel memory management, it should be fine now... I know it was an debacle, I thought Google had fixed that though........ any way.... last huawei for me ?
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The only thing I really her about this phone is emui.
Hi,
I actually have both, Mate 20 Pro and Pixel 3XL and am switching back and forth regularly as I can't make up my mind (I'd love the mix of the 2 ).
Regarding Pixel 3XL vs Mate 20 (keep in mind it's the Mate 20 Pro) :
Pros :
• "Clean" Android vs EMUI even though EMUI has some nice features (eg screenshot gesture)
• Regular firmware updates (M20P is said to get monthly but not as far as I am concerned)
• No Bootloader lock
• Android Q 1st day (wait to see when M20P will get it)
Cons :
• Battery (hard to make a full day with my usage vs 1.5 days easy on M20P)
• Missing wide angle which is pretty nice on M20P for landscape pics
• Memory management (even though greatly improved compared to the beginning)
• No Miracast
• No Dual SIM / SD Card
• M20P has better (more vivid) display in my eyes
As far as my usage is concerned, other than Wide angle, both cameras have sufficient quality.
Now even though the Cons list is longer, it all depends on the importance YOU put on each point. I'm on the Pixel 3 XL right now for the last 2 weeks (M20P in a drawer) because the Android experience is globally more satisfying to me (and being able to test Android Q Beta 4).
I too played around with pixel 3a and pixel 3 (not xl).
As LuMe96 says, he is pretty much spot on there, so won't repeat what was said. To be honest, having a clean android is a shock coming from EMUI - feels more swiping going on. Like for example to get application list, you have to hold and swipe all the way up, where as M20P you have an application button. EMUI is more polished.
Comparing cameras - apart from macro shots (which isn't in pixel), night sights is really good (ie, in dark room I was able to read my b'day card, whereas M20P I couldn't). AR mode is very good (you see marvel character in your viewing space as if he/she are there), unlike M20P was rather crappy. You certainly don't find as much camera effects then M20P.
I can't seem to set the shutter speed to like 30 secs on pixel whereas you can on m20p so stars photos isn't great. Might be able to get a better camera app, but afaik, I don't think you can set the shutter speed more then 2s.
I haven't noticed any slow downs or lags, but having said that, I don't play games. It can handle many apps opening at once.
3a camera shots - there is a tiny tiny lag as its rendering the photo you taken, but it doesn't effect the photo speed you taking - it just the rendering.
I get a bit of a storage anxiety - you mindful of lack of storage so if you thinking of installing big fancy 3d games, then i may come to be an issue. (i think you got about 56gb remaining with clean os)
I got a pixel 3 cos I found a really good deal (cheaper then 3a!). 3a isn't that much different to be honest -if you are a type of person that gets a good case and screen protector, then you probably don't need gorilla glass. wireless charging dock is £80, so if you not bothered about wireless charging or paying a fortune for the dock, then 3a is best. Can't remember if pixel is waterproof, but on M20P if a spot of water is on the screen, I found the screen a little unresponsive anyway.
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EMUI is more polished.
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You're literally the only person I've ever heard say this
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You're literally the only person I've ever heard say this
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Haha when I say polished I meant glossy! Shiny colour schemes and all that
to be honest i found the biggest draw backs with the pixel phones the much slower charging speeds and the much worse battery life are really noticeable after having the mate 20 pro and its the two biggest things that made me sell my pixel 3 and keep the mate 20 pro , the battery life and charging speeds are absolute game changers for my usage
updates are nice to have fast but i found emui 9 to have more features and better gestures than stock android and you can theme the mate 20 pro so easy with launcher/theme/font/icon pack etc that emui9 can look very good and more how you want it to look rather than stock android
i like the pixel 3 camera but i also like the mate 20 pro camera , both have strong points and weak points and both are fun to use with great output but i do tend to lean towards the mate 20 pro camera due to its features and versatility although no flash in aperture mode bugs me
i also really like the nokia 9 and prefer the camera output to both the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro , however it also has a smaller battery and slower charging times and again after using the mate 20 pro i really notice that
I prefer the Mate 20p - probably a subjective thing.
I forget the waterproof rating on the 20p, but the Pixel 3 is one value lower (my wife has the Pixel).
I also agree about using an alternate launcher and theming for dealing with clutter. I used Apex for a long time, but yesterday tried out Smart Launcher - very nicely organized with a simple home page, search page and widget page. The best part is the application page, with categorized subsections. Very elegant, and maintains the phone gestures (or customize your own). Here are pics of home page and one of the app screens with the theme I currently use.
I had the pixel 3 and gave it to my mom and bought the mate 20 pro
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I prefer the Mate 20p - probably a subjective thing.
I forget the waterproof rating on the 20p, but the Pixel 3 is one value lower (my wife has the Pixel).
I also agree about using an alternate launcher and theming for dealing with clutter. I used Apex for a long time, but yesterday tried out Smart Launcher - very nicely organized with a simple home page, search page and widget page. The best part is the application page, with categorized subsections. Very elegant, and maintains the phone gestures (or customize your own). Here are pics of home page and one of the app screens with the theme I currently use.
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niceee that theme is that
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niceee that theme is that
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Azure.