Hello. This is for those who are still on N6P but are ready to move on, and contemplating either OnePlus 6T or Pixel 3 XL, for obvious reasons, both phones are similar size, with impressive dev activity w/ freedom to root/unlock and develop without hassle from OEM.
- I had great fun porting roms to 6P and customizing popular kernels just to make them unique, LeanKernel w/ EX features for example.
I bought the 6T midnight w/ 8gb of ram and 128 GB direct from OnePlus. A co-worker got a Pixel 3 XL from Verizon. I've played with both.
My sentiment with Pixel 3 XL
- After playing with the Pixel 3 XL, I've come to the conclusion and agreement with some others. Pixel 3 XL was not meant for us. Pixel 3 XL was not made for Nexus 6P fans. It was not made for Nexus fans. Pixel 3 XL feels more like Apple iPhone than ANY Android phone I've ever used or touched. Pixel 3 XL for me is an odd experience, because as I used it, I became aware and realized what Google tried to do with the Pixel 3 XL and why they partnered with Verizon. Verizon partnership clearly gives Pixel 3 XL the greatest opportunity and chance to convert Apple fans to Google Pixel 3 XL. I think many of your Nexus 6P owners after playing with Pixel 3 XL would come to the same conclusion. Pixel 3 XL oddly felt very simple, and LIMITED, just like an iPhone. While Pixel 3 XL fans will be able to customize to their heart's content with custom roms, mods and addons, but this stock experience left a bad taste in my mouth realizing who this phone was meant for. It was meant for the simple iPhone user who wastes their life on instagram posting selfies.
Value
- That's what the 6P was about. We all knew we would get cutting edge hardware with some sacrifices on the 6P, SD810, decent battery size, impressive EIS on the camera, latest updates, the first phone that exemplified how great fingerprint reader can be. Sacrifices to the camera and headphone output for example. But it was worth it to have an affordable, reasonably priced phone with the freedom to do with as we liked. We owned this phone, in it's entirety.
- 6T embodies that same philosophy as 6P. Cutting edge hardware with SD 845 and 8GB of ram, and blazing fast face unlock and decent on-screen fingerprint.
- The camera. 6T camera, not a debate, huge improvement over 6P. No question. Coming from 6P to 6T, you're gonna LOVE the camera. Yes it's not as good as Samsung Note 9, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, Pixel 3 XL cameras, but compared to 6P, 6T camera is excellent improvement. On top of that, Pixel 3 Camera software works on 6P, takes great night pictures.
- Consider the value of the 6P and the freedom OnePlus allows, I believe the average current 6P owners will be like me, it's worth sacrificing the camera for those other gains. Als
- Pixel 3 XL has gone a different road. It's expensive. It's gimped on hardware that matters, battery, ram, no face recognition, and just an awful design, the worst designed flagship phone of 2018.
- Pixel 3 XL is NOT worth $900. It's not. You can get a Galaxy S9 Plus for less and it's a superior phone, in nearly every way. Pixel 3 XL does not deserve to be in the $900-1000 budget with Samsung, Huawei and Apple, it's just doesn't deserve to be there. Pixel 3 XL is the opposite of what Nexus was about. It's on the opposite spectrum of value.
Feel, 6T wins.
- Both 6T and Pixel 3 XL improved on feel over the 6P. They both hold in your well more comfortably than 6P. But the frosted glass on the 6T I prefer it. And it's narrower than Pixel 3 XL, it's more comfortable in my hands. Will admit the Pixel 3 XL rear is more grippy, but it's still slippery.
Hardware. 6T easily wins.
- 8GB of ram vs 4GB. Using the Pixel 3 XL, can clearly tell 4GB is not enough, even with the software updates. Baffled how Google can charge $900 for a phone w/ 4gb, baffling.
- The design. Wow, that notch, is horrifying, and so is the massive chin. Google definitely could have provided stereo speakers with almost no bezel design. Pixel 3 XL is 2018 design fail of the year. Comparing Pixel 3 XL's notch to iPhone, and other competitors, it's horrifying how bad it is. The 6T has a drop notch, and it's unwanted as well. But the 6T gets rid of the notch thanks to the OLED display, but still uses that empty space for status bar. The Pixel 3 XL does not. It's just really bad, Google clearly didn't care at launch or still.
- Pixel 3 XL microphone. Wow... The microphone on Pixel 3 XL is garbage. I don't know if it's the hardware or digital processing, either way, it is garbage. Especially recording, it's garbage.
- 6T stereo microphone recording, great. The opposite of Pixel 3 XL's garbage.
- IP68 rating. Well done some research. The OnePlus 6T undergoes gruesome QA/QI testing, including a 100 hour rain test, temperature ranging from -40 to 90 C. Watching tear down videos provide clear evidence OnePlus design includes ALL necessary details and components to achieve IP68 rating. This should be a non-issue. Also consider, none of the OEM guarantee water resistance or honor warranty for liquid damage. Samsung, HTC, Apple, Google all use liquid damage sensors in their phones. Anyone who risks liquid damage and trusts the IP68 rating is an idiot.
- The caseback. Yeah, that's a no contest. The frosted black on 6T looks better than Pixel 3 XL IMO, and it doesn't scratch like the Pixel 3 XL. And that oddity around the camera on Pixel 3 XL looks terrible, it really does.
- Pixel 3 XL does have wireless charging. But... The 6T Dash Charge charges faster than Pixel 3 XL, and... the 3700 mah battery is AWESOME. I've never run out of juice, including hours of gaming, youtube, browsing, reading etc. I never worry about the display brightness etc. For reasons I can't think of, if wireless charging is more important than Dash fast charge and 3700 mah battery, well we clearly have different needs. Battery life vs wireless charging? Really? Is that even worth discussing or debating?
- Pixel 3 XL has quad display. Yes, but it also has a blue haze, it's VERY evident. The color profiles also suck, with idiotic names like warm, what is warm and natural? Is this phone for iPhone simpletons or tech nerds? 6T display does not shift color or blue haze, and it has understandable color profiles like sRGB, DCI-3P, makes sense, call it what it is. The Pixel 3 display honestly is better than Pixel 3 XL, pay more for worse screen, what a joke.
- DisplayMate awarding top award to Pixel 3 XL is a farce. What a joke. The blue haze shift still exists on the Pixel 3 XL LG display, how that can win any award is a joke.
- Pixel 3 XL has better stereo speakers. Stock 6T has mono single speaker. I'm rocking the 6T stereo speaker mod w/ EX's kernel that allows me to adjust volume of either speaker to have level even sound from both, with true stereo sound. Still not as good as Pixel 3 XL, but is it better than 6P? I think it is, I think it has fuller sound than 6P with this mod.
- Neither phones have headphone jack. But... But... With the USB-C dongle, BOTH phones on my headphones sound much better than 6P's headphone jack output. So... consider that, both 6T and Pixel 3 XL sound is better than 6Ps.
- Pixel 3 XL without doubt has the better camera. It does. I'm not a camera fanatic. But the porting of Gcam to 6T is going well. I'm using a port that works with all features, except it shoots 4mp for front camera, and oddly is still better than stock camera's front camera, weird. I had a lot of fun taking some impressive night pics with Pixel Cam on 6T enjoying the holiday festivities.
- Pixel 3 XL front camera CRUSHES the 6T. How often do I do a selfie? NEVER. Zero f***s from me.
- 6T has hardware options to toggle alarm settings, ring, vibrate, and silent. It is as amazing as everyone says, I use it daily. Pixel 3 XL does not, nope.
Software, 6T easily wins
OxygenOS... Yes, after using OxygenOS and then using Pixel 3 XL, well Pixel 3 XL felt the way I feel when I use Apple, angry. Why are you limiting me? Why can't I do this? Why can't I do that? Pixel 3 XL experience made me angry to use, after using OxygenOS and custom roms on 6P.
- OxygenOS has 3 navigation options. ALL three I prefer to Pixel 3 XL's. Amazing right? The one navigation option on Pixel 3 XL is inferior to any of the three provided on OxygenOS.
- I always change the batter to circle w/ %, yup, OxygenOS has that covered.
- Double tape to wake with face recognition? Hell yeah, faster and more convenient to use than fingerprint on 6P.
- No LED notifications on 6T and since I don't like ambient display, oh well.
- Gaming mode, reading mode, sort of gimicky, but I do use them, a lot. They are useful. Pixel 3 XL does not.
- Unsurprising, any app features on Pixel 3 XL I use on 6T. Had no issues replacing stock apps with Google apps. There are ZERO software features from Pixel 3 XL that I desire not on 6T. None, there are absolute no reason for me to desire a Pixel 3 XL over 6T in any way.
- Do I believe OxygenOS will be preferred by any 6P user who used custom roms? Most definitely. I would even go as far as, I believe majority of 6P owners using custom roms will be satisfied with OxygenOS and not use a custom rom.
- The 6T is a smoother experience and enjoyable experience than Pixel 3 XL. I really don't think that's up for debate. 8gb ram is overkill, but you can feel the difference compared to Pixel 3 XL 4gb.
Longevity
- I'm not interested in getting a new phone every year. 6T wins for this reason alone. The 8gb of ram with the 3700 mah batter future proofs this phone more than Pixel 3 XL. And you don't have to suffer the the worst designed phone of 2018 with the 6T. A year from now, I have little doubt, that massive notch and chin will be even more annoying and aggravating as 2019 and 2020 introduces completely bezel free phones that still have stereo speakers with superior cameras and sensors. Overall I 6T is the better option for long term use. Any software advancement on Pixel 3 XL will be available on the 6T and will perform better on the 6T.
I honestly believe Google failed miserably with the Pixel 3 XL. There are so many better phones than Pixel 3 XL this year. Oppo Find X, Samsung Note 9/Galaxy S9 Plus, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, and OnePlus 6T to me are all preferable to what Google offered Apple fans with Pixel 3 XL.
If camera is the reason to pay an extra $300? I think you're insane. Much better off paying for a $300 camera and a OnePlus 6T.
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
BelzIgoh said:
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
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Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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juan_carlos__007 said:
Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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Oh, guess I was wrong about that. Might be getting me one at some point.
I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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Humans can't see pixels at 300 PPI at safe distances to use. 6T is 402 PPI, it's well beyond retina or beyond capability of human eyesight. To see pixels, would have to use at distance that is damaging to your eyes. I have 20/20 without glasses and definitely cannot see pixels. If you can see pixels in normal use, I can only conclude you're a cyborg with beyond human eyesight.
Only time I see pixels is using VR and currently Google Daydream well... sucks. It's fun and promising, but it has a LONG ways to go.
For me, I'm dissappointed with OnePlus is the headphone jack and the early adoption of fingerprint. Since I believe OnePlus says headphone jack would not have prevented use of 3700 mah battery, it was the fingerprint reader. Oh well, every company makes blunders and mistakes, luckily these mistakes are easy to live with.
I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
PsymH said:
I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
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That's a good point. Thanks for the clarification. But:
14,16 x 7,12 x 0,78 (6P) vs.
15,75 x 7,48 x 0,82 (6T)
The entire size is still my main concern.
gorman42 said:
If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
zymphad said:
Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
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What's the actual mod called?
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Has anyone that currently has or had a v30 considered switching to a Pixel 3?
I realize that if I look at this from a logical point of view, there is nothing -nothing- that motivates me to drop the V30 in favor of the Pixel. The Pixel is inferior to the V30 in so many ways (battery life, wide angle camera, headphone jack, expandable storage) but when I saw the Pixel 3 today, the photo quality (yes, I know, there´s a gcam port, but it will never be the same), the clean interface and especially the compact size, I actually thought about getting the Pixel.
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Has anyone that currently has or had a v30 considered switching to a Pixel 3?
I realize that if I look at this from a logical point of view, there is nothing -nothing- that motivates me to drop the V30 in favor of the Pixel. The Pixel is inferior to the V30 in so many ways (battery life, wide angle camera, headphone jack, expandable storage) but when I saw the Pixel 3 today, the photo quality (yes, I know, there´s a gcam port, but it will never be the same), the clean interface and especially the compact size, I actually thought about getting the Pixel.
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You mean the even more inferior Pixel 3 vs the inferior Pixel 3 XL?
1080p not 1440p QHD. My 2014 5.2" Moto Quark had 1440p OLED and I'm never downgrading.
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There is no chance I would change my V30 for a Pixel. The camera is good enough for me and the wide angle is awesome. It's also fast enough and has good battery life.
But the main thing is this quad dac, man that thing is amazing.
So no I'll keep my V30 for a while
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Has anyone that currently has or had a v30 considered switching to a Pixel 3?
I realize that if I look at this from a logical point of view, there is nothing -nothing- that motivates me to drop the V30 in favor of the Pixel. The Pixel is inferior to the V30 in so many ways (battery life, wide angle camera, headphone jack, expandable storage) but when I saw the Pixel 3 today, the photo quality (yes, I know, there´s a gcam port, but it will never be the same), the clean interface and especially the compact size, I actually thought about getting the Pixel.
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We must ask ourselves, why did Google charge $650 for the Pixel when they charged $250 for their previous phone, the Nexus 6P? Compare the specs - it's not $350 different.
Pixels are overpriced garbage. Supporting that is supporting the idea that you're paying for a name and not for substance. That's why we went to Android instead of Apple - to get away from that (also Apple sucks lol.)
Thanks all for confirming my initial thoughts - I just had a moment of weakness.
I might as well save my money and see what the S10 looks like…
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We must ask ourselves, why did Google charge $650 for the Pixel when they charged $250 for their previous phone, the Nexus 6P? Compare the specs - it's not $350 different.
Pixels are overpriced garbage. Supporting that is supporting the idea that you're paying for a name and not for substance. That's why we went to Android instead of Apple - to get away from that (also Apple sucks lol.)
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Google is going for "mind share". That's all.
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I am leaning towards the Pixel since I prefer the hardware fingerprint. Also lack of the obnoxious indent on the screen.
Also am unsure about how massive the 6T is on paper. How does it compare to our 6P?
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I am leaning towards the Pixel since I prefer the hardware fingerprint. Also lack of the obnoxious indent on the screen.
Also am unsure about how massive the 6T is on paper. How does it compare to our 6P?
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I'm still rocking the Nexus 6p. But I can't think why would you want to compare a old Nexus 6p with a recent device. Which is oneplus 6t am I right? The 6t is a killer by all means don't get me wrong. But I can't seem to waste that much money on a tech. I rather wait for the price to drop over time. But again 6p vs 6t really? Is like comparing note 4 over note 9 and what people is going to tell you, the same thing I'm telling. How in the world your going to compare a old device with a new device both being high end phones. Most people loves to have the latest tech and some don't because of the price or because they don't really need the latest tech. I went from the next Robin to Nexus 6 then 6p without comparing them. Only because I wanted a taste of those device. Pretty old devices but still worth it I'm my opinion. I'm just not that type of techy guy.
Btw- the 6t is great device if you have the money to buy go for it.
Its a monster. Maybe in a few years I'll grab one or Poco f1
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Also am unsure about how massive the 6T is on paper. How does it compare to our 6P?
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Nexus 6P: 159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm - weight 185 grams
One Plus 6T: 157.5 x 74.8 x 8.2 mm - weight 178 grams
I'm considering the 6T as a substitute to my 6P and I think the 6T would be easier to handle (less width equals easier handling, in my opinion). The difference in weight is probably not perceptible without a digital scale. It's slightly thicker but less than one millimeter shouldn't be a big deal.
Intersting. So the 6T would actually be easier to manage thna the 6P. Was concerned maybe the 6T would be enormous.
Went with the 6T. Reasons?
Pixel 3 XL I've concluded was not created for me. Google has made it clear to me, they don't care about me and don't care about the reasons why I loved the Nexus program. Google has clearly demonstrated to me they care more about iPhone users who have no interest in Android than me. Pixel 3 XL was not meant for me, it was meant for the few, very very few Verizon iPhone user who may be tempted to try the Pixel 3 XL.
I'm accustomed to large screen, so decided against Pixel 3. And Pixel 3 XL's design is the dumbest on the market now. Way to fail hard Google, morons at Google design team now.
Gorilla Glass 6. Because better glass is always a yes for me.
6T is the only phone out now that is affordable that can easily be rooted/bootloader unlocked w/o any hassle from OEM that supports T-Mobile's 66/71.
I love my headphones, but FiiO's new BTR1K with AKM DAC and low latency APT-x for no latency movie/gaming, problem solved.
The stereo speaker mod for OnePlus shows a lot of promise, so not worried about stereo speaker.
Pixel Cam ported to 6T and closes the gap between 6T and Pixel 3. And I plan to buy a real camera with the savings, and that camera will demolish Pixel/iPhone/Galaxy cameras combined. This war over phone cameras is the silliest thing ever, paying $500 additional dollars for the smallest difference vs buying a real camera? What a f'ing joke.
6T faceunlock is stupidly fast. Not worried about the fingerprint on screen any more.
Phone tech is moving rapidly, makes no sense for me to spend any more money than what the 6T costs right now, especially with 5G coming. When 5G is here, even then I refuse to pay $900 for a 6 inch weak computer.
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I'm still rocking the Nexus 6p. But I can't think why would you want to compare a old Nexus 6p with a recent device. Which is oneplus 6t am I right? The 6t is a killer by all means don't get me wrong. But I can't seem to waste that much money on a tech. I rather wait for the price to drop over time. But again 6p vs 6t really? Is like comparing note 4 over note 9 and what people is going to tell you, the same thing I'm telling. How in the world your going to compare a old device with a new device both being high end phones. Most people loves to have the latest tech and some don't because of the price or because they don't really need the latest tech. I went from the next Robin to Nexus 6 then 6p without comparing them. Only because I wanted a taste of those device. Pretty old devices but still worth it I'm my opinion. I'm just not that type of techy guy.
Btw- the 6t is great device if you have the money to buy go for it.
Its a monster. Maybe in a few years I'll grab one or Poco f1
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lol..dude,you dont get it.he is not comparing phones with the 6P.Hes comparing the One Plus 6T vs Google Pixel 3.Hes just thinking and talking about his "next" device(and looks like the Oneplus 6T won).
either way, Ai
SMH he probably edited the thread because most definitely I saw Nexus 6p or the OnePlus 6t on the headline of the thread.
You probably got in here while he edited the op, so......... Cheers.
if you need camera, you know what you need)
Yup, 6T with Gcam. Working well.
zymphad said:
Yup, 6T with Gcam. Working well.
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How's the use comfort? Is it as I imagined it would be? That is, no problem coming from 6P?
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How's the use comfort? Is it as I imagined it would be? That is, no problem coming from 6P?
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Comfort is good. It does feel better in my hands. It is about the same height as 6P and it is narrower. Except more screen space. Good improvement. I have to use a case though, am a clutz, and the amazingly beautiful caseback is slippery. Spigen and official OnePlus cases fit great.
I am loving it. It feels like using a 6P except much faster with skupendous battery. It feels as if I got great value for my money and no issues with customizations.
Granted camera is still in development. OnePlus definitely lagging in AI for their camera software, lagging behind both Huawei and Google. Gcam port still going through growing pains, but the pics I am taking are much improved over 6P.
The only hiccup is headphone jack. While the USB dongle passive output sounds noticably better than 6P headphone jack. But, dongle is easy to misplace and forget. But eith BT 5.0 and Aptx Low Latency, maybe its time to make that switch.
Overall I do think for US T Mobile user there is no other phone that lives up to legacy of Nexus. That includes the Pixel 3.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 3a, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 3a is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm in absolute love with this phone.
Over last year, almost, I've used Pixel 3, OP7t, iPhone 11 and now this...
And I can definitely say that I've felt most settled with 3a (closely followed by iPhone 11 but iOS is crap).
So much so that the only mobile that is gonna replace this for me is Pixel 4a/5a.
i've had my p3a for a couple months and i like it. it's an excellent reincarnation of a nexus. hopefully google continues to refine the concept.
I very much like my p3a. I heard how easy Google made the pixels to root. Followed the guides but updates proved problematic. Sadly root did not provide all the features I wanted, (i.e. the ability to remove system apps). Interestingly straight stock gives me everything I want. Apps can't be removed but can be disabled. It's still early days for development so I wait.
Just got the phone in today. 3a XL. First thing I noticed is how nice if feels in the hand compared to my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren. More "boxier" and less tall. Nice. I love having a traditional fingerprint sensor again. Much faster and more accurate than the optical I've been using and ultra sonic on my Note 10 Plus.
This 3a XL is my way of making life more simple for me. I realized after using all these phones over just this past year that my daily phone needs/wants are not demanding whatsoever. This feels better. More sensible. I'm happy Google made this a series. I hope the 4a phones will be just as good.
One negative that's not a big deal is that I've noticed that I have to keep the brightness scale up closer to full brightness to have the same amount of brightness I'm used to on my other phones where I typically kept the brightness scale at the middle or lower.
Everything is great. I thought I'd be struggling with only less that 64GB of storage left compared to the 256GB I was used to before but that was another thing I realized. I don't use a lot of storage at all. So I have plenty with this phone. I guess I used to just be paranoid I'd never have enough storage. One of those things that I wanted to have and not need it vs the alternative. But my thoughts have evolved on this topic.
Headphone jack. Headphone jack. Oh, how I've missed the headphone jack. Plastic body, feels so much better. Glass where it counts. Plastic for durability. Perfect. Oh, and FLAT display again! So much better. Samsung seems to finally realize that curved displays are not so great. New S20 series have calmed down with that curve.
So far so good with this phone. I appreciate its humility.
Hi,
who of you upgraded from a Pixel 2 XL to a Pixel 6?
I got my Pixel 6 yesterday and compared the two phones.
I mean the display of the Pixel 2 XL is better than that of the Pixel 6, what do you think?
I find the color white on the Pixel 6 does not have such a good luminosity and therefore you can read the fonts better on the Pixel 2 XL in dark mode. Do you think so too?
In general, even when comparing apps, I find the dark colors of the Pixel 2XL darker and the light colors much brighter than the Pixel 6, which I like better and increases readability. Pixel 2 XL just looks more like luminosity OLED and Pixel 6 somehow a bit pale like an LCD. Also the 2 XL looks sharper.
Apart from that, I don't like the fingerprint scanner that much... It's a bit slow and I miss pulling down the notification bar on the back with it.
But in everything else I have to say a great upgrade. What is your opinion on Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel 6?
I noticed the same thing about the display. The pixel 2 xl has a nicer display with truer blacks. Another thing I noticed is the screen is almost exactly the same size as the 2xl. I'm happy with the pixel 6 device overall but the display is where they saved money to get that price point. I compared the same 1080p video on YouTube on both devices side by side and its very clear that skin tones and colors look more accurate to reality on the pixel 2 xl than the pixel 6. The pixel 6 colors seem dull in comparison.
I will miss the rear fingerprint sensor too but it's not as big of a deal for me as the display. Also be careful when using the new fingerprint sensor at night because the light it uses is very bright.
I upgraded from the 2XL. My question for the displays would be do you have the color setting the same on both displays so that you aren't comparing boosted on the 2xl compared to natural on the 6.
Yes, both set naturally. But it is also so, when Pixel 2 XL is set so naturally and Pixel 6 to adaptiv.
It is very hard to make a picture of that.
On Pixel 6 the white text is light grey and not clear white and the background on 2 XL is darker, so it is easyer to read text.
Maybe it is because Pixel 2 XL has QHD instead of FHD display and more pixels lighten up?
Just upgraded my 2XL to a 6. Couple of things I find annoying:
When I connect my BT headset, the phone still rings audibly. That caused embarrassment as I was presenting in a meeting today.
How do I get to my full list of apps quickly? On the 2XL, you swiped up from the bottom, but that's the home gesture, and even on the home screen, it doesn't pull up the apps.
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How do I get to my full list of apps quickly? On the 2XL, you swiped up from the bottom, but that's the home gesture, and even on the home screen, it doesn't pull up the apps.
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Just discovered this one: if you tap on the fingerprint sensor and swipe up, it pulls up the apps list.
I don't like the HUGE pull-down controls. I'm used to having 6 controls at the first pull-down. Now we only get 4. Any way to go to smaller buttons/icons?
I'm in the process of evaluating moving to the Pixel 6 Pro or Pixel 6. I'm sadley leaning toward the Pixel 6 so I don't have to deal with curved display. The Pixel 6 came in today. Currently rooted, but having issues getting the OS to update. :/
Cydras said:
Hi,
who of you upgraded from a Pixel 2 XL to a Pixel 6?
I got my Pixel 6 yesterday and compared the two phones.
I mean the display of the Pixel 2 XL is better than that of the Pixel 6, what do you think?
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But in everything else I have to say a great upgrade. What is your opinion on Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel 6?
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Yes, the display is not as high resolution as the 2XL. Fortunately, I made my choice knowing this because I compared specs. Remember, the 2XL was a $900 phone when it came out. Pixel 6 is $600 - considerably cheaper, and arguably much better. The Pro on the other hand, has a vastly superior display and is still cheaper than the 2XL was - and that is not factoring inflation!
Bakhtosh said:
I don't like the HUGE pull-down controls. I'm used to having 6 controls at the first pull-down. Now we only get 4. Any way to go to smaller buttons/icons?
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The controls are the OS, not the phone. I'd wager there are configurations for the Pixel Launcher to modify that. I don't know because I switched to Nova (Prime) years ago, and it looks great on the new phone. everything is adjustable.
ddfault said:
I'm in the process of evaluating moving to the Pixel 6 Pro or Pixel 6. I'm sadley leaning toward the Pixel 6 so I don't have to deal with curved display. The Pixel 6 came in today. Currently rooted, but having issues getting the OS to update. :/
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I hoped that rooting and flashing would be easier on the 6, but sadly, that is not the case. There are other threads here that describe the root/update process. I was lucky since I got my phone right at the beginning of November, and the update came to my phone during initial setup.
Updates need to be side loaded due to verity re-enable on vbmeta, or you'll have a wipe with each update. There are instructions elsewhere around here.
I liked my 2XL, and will hold on to it as a backup/play phone as long as I can, but it is getting flakey. The camera stopped working in August, I have various apps that just refuse to launch, and worst of all, the charge port no longer consistently maintains a connection. Only a few select cables are usable. I hate when that happens.
I considered going for repairs, but for the camera alone it's around $170 with labor. Since I insist on rooting my phones, the Pixel 6 or Pro was pretty much my only reasonable option. So far, I'm happy with it.
I am a new owner of Pixel 6 Pro, previously with Pixel 2 XL. I will keep the 2xl for backup and international SIMs
I upgraded from the Pixel 2XL to a Pixel 4XL but ended up returning it as I did not want to deal with Face Unlock in the middle of the pandemic where I needed to wear a mask so i ended up getting a OnePlus 7 Pro instead. So far there are some things that is actually a downgrade from the Oneplus but overall I am happy with the Pixel 6. So far I dont think anything is wrong with it that cannot be fixed with a software update in the future. And we all know how quick Pixels get updates.
I'm in the mix to possibly buy a P6 , but I'm curious what phone you're leaving behind. Plus, how has the new phone compared or not?
Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu differences (coming from Android 10) and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI.
Pixel 3a XL. Nearly identical overall size, but the P6 screen is much bigger (smaller bezels) and nicer. Overall the camera performance is slightly better, but having the wide angle lens is really nice. I also believe that Google will continue to tweak the software for the new camera chip and make the performance better over time. The fact that they were able to match the performance of the older camera chip (that they have been tweaking on for 3+ years) on release day is pretty amazing.
I've always purchased mid-price phones. I simply cannot bring myself to spend $1000 or more on a phone that regardless of how good it is, will need to be replaced in a few years. The price difference between the Pixel "A" series phone and the P6 was small enough and the extra features of the P6 were good enough that I decided it was worth the extra money to buy the P6. I would not however spend the extra $$ on a P6P over a P6.
I'm 100% satisfied with my upgrade and would make the same decision again after using the P6 since release day.
PS - I have zero issues with the finger print reader. I'm not running a screen protector at this time (but would like to). I have only saved each finger once as well as there has been no need to save it multiple times. I probably have a 95% first scan success rate.
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Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu difference coming from Android 10 (and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI).
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Cool, you won't miss the bloatware
Lg Wing. Only because my hand was forced due to no more support. The phone itself was great. I hate Samsung and Apple. Motorola is basically garbage. One plus is too expensive for what I'm willing to pay, after a year on TMobile the 9pro was still above 1000. This left me with this phone as the only other reasonable choice. I am not the biggest fan so far.
Galaxy S20+.
OP8
Pixel 3... and I had a Nexus 6 before that. I love the carry size of the 3, but miss the screen of the Orca. The Pixel 6 is still narrower than the Nexus 6 was.
OP5
OP6T
Pixel 3a
OP6T
OP6T and OP8T. Great hardware. I was tired of waiting for updates.
P30 Pro. great phone but I'd broken screen, fprint reader and main mic. not economical to fix
From a OnePlus 6.
OP8
OP7T
Been rocking a Moto Z2 Force for quite awhile before this. One thing I find myself doing after owning Moto phones the past decade or so is the "chop-chop" flashlight activation. Was very convenient. Miss that feature. Oh, and it's uncrackable screen. It took a beating, got scared up...but never a crack.
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Pixel 2.
I'll miss the size of the P2 and overall it was a solid 4 yrs of trouble free service. We'll see about the P6.