I was under the impression that on Android pie Google would allow all biometrics as options to login to apps instead of fingerprint only.
Is anyone successful with this?
I'm guessing no as face recognition isn't very secure.
Having said that I use the fingerprint sensor.
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taniwhatuu said:
I'm guessing no as face recognition isn't very secure.
Having said that I use the fingerprint sensor.
Huawei Mate20 Pro LYA-L09
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This is not the standard face recognition that most android phones use. This is with a dot projector and infrared light like the iPhone X models
I think it requires 3rd party developers to implement. Can't really see this happening as only a few phones have the 3d face scanning built in. I mean I think even Huawei doesn't have any apps that uses this technology i.e vault or secure notes.
Faspaiso said:
I was under the impression that on Android pie Google would allow all biometrics as options to login to apps instead of fingerprint only.
Is anyone successful with this?
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I haven't tried my banking app yet but google pay uses it.
It is also just as secure as fingerprint and as secure as iphone.
addicted2phones said:
I think it requires 3rd party developers to implement. Can't really see this happening as only a few phones have the 3d face scanning built in. I mean I think even Huawei doesn't have any apps that uses this technology i.e vault or secure notes.
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It was just my understanding that Google implemented it for Pie the same way as for iOS. The apps for ios is just coded for biometric. No need to specify if it should be faceID or an older touchid phone.
So the apps should just ask for biometric authentication and therefor it should use whatever I has active.
The app developer would need to code it for FaceID, both my banking apps have settings within the app to use fingerprint login, there would be a setting required to provide faceID login likewise. The same also applies to my phone carriers usage meter, they have only just modified it for fingerprint login.
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There is currently no Android standard for face unlock so using it as an identification for banking apps or making payments would be very insecure. Different Android phones currently use different methods to implement face unlock and some of those methods can be bypassed with a photograph.
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What is the best (safest) way to do it security wise?
Through the browser? Through the banking app they have? or remote desktop?
I use browser n apps like pageonce or the corresponding app to bank. browser is secure. just make sure you see the padlock icon on browser URL.
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What is the best (safest) way to do it security wise?
Through the browser? Through the banking app they have? or remote desktop?
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Neither of these are the safest way to do online banking.
My bank requires additional secutity measures other than just providing login id and password, i.e. a second one time password that will be sent to your mobile phone for you to input each time you do a banking transaction.
agree with what the rest said:
use the app specifically released by the bank (the best I think)
most banks here in the UK are using two-factor authentication - so I am using the stock browser at the moment - but... this still leaves a door open for the man-in-the-middle attack, so just an extra precaution, i set my DNS to OpenDns.
additionally, I normally clear all before and after banking session all the cookies/form data/cache - i am not sure why i am doing this, but it does make me feel better
If the bank is worth a damn both the app they provide and their sites should be secure. Just do not use on an open wifi network as your communication can be intercepted before it's encrypted with ssl through say the webpage. In fact I personally would not log into anything with an open wifi network.
Mint works pretty well.
I am very excited to have access to bio-metric security on my new phone. However, for those of us in the U.S., there is one security exception that you should consider.
While its generally understood that no one, by law, may compel you to reveal a password; fingerprints themselves are NOT legally protected by the 5th amendment. There is precedence set that interprets the legal right for law enforcement to collect blood and DNA samples as evidence clearly extending to fingerprints.
If you want to fact check that, just google 'forced to fingerprint unlock' and you can pick from sources you trust the most:good:
Therefore, I want to know what XDA has to say about this. We have the phones now.What can we do?
My idea involved allowing the user to use fingerprints to authorize actions within the OS for speed(Ie Android pay,play-store purchases,access to contacts, etc), however disallowing fingerprint authentication for device unlocking and rely on PIN only. I think that is the best way to balance ease of use and security that a fingerprint reader adds while also avoiding the general lack of control over the authentication method used( fingerprints).
Even Google admits in the documentation, and I quote, "A physical copy of your fingerprint could be used to unlock your phone. You leave fingerprints on many things you touch, including your phone."(https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6285273).
Therefore a third party having control over your fingerprints is admittedly a valid concern. Therefore Nexus imprint is NOT a secure authentication method UNLESS paired with a pin code. I think Two-Factor authentication is required here. We want to make sure that no one has both factors. 1 isn't enough here. They tell us that a PIN is better. Why not a fusion of both? Why cant I do TRUE 2-Factor and do PIN+print unlocks?
My questions to the community are these:
1. Do you really care about this?
2. Is there some sort of built-in way to implement this functionality with Nexus imprint already? I haven't found it yet.
3. Would you be interested in a application or system modification that did this?
It sort of already has a build in workaround. The phone requires pin after boot, so if you are about to be arrested.. shut down the phone.
Also if you use any third party app to lock the device, it needs pin to unlock (e.g. Nova double tap to lock screen).
1. No.
I see imprint as a convenience, not another factor. It improves security for me by allowing me to keep my phone locked with a strong password, without the inconvenience of having to enter it every time I pick up my phone.
A pin/password to unlock and in each app's "App info" settings dialog a switch where you could toggle Imprint/Voice/Face does sound ideal. This way the user is not left hoping the app developer implements these features. My banking app does Face/voice/pin, and I assume they'll eventually add Imprint, but I'd prefer the operating system gave me, the user, this power in much the same way they've given us granular control over some permissions & notification access. This actually seems like the logical next step to Screen Pinning.
Hello! I would like to know a thing or two about about android's fingerprint sensors. Apparently I am planning to create a mobile finger print scanner and it seems that hardware wise an android phone with fingerprint scanner has everything I need. Heads-up I'm a newbie in android dev and currently do not have any app developed.
I have done some reaseach and it seems that Android M has already APIs for fingerprint. But the articles I have seen only talks about authenticating the phone's user. Nothing about using it for different purpose.
So here are my questions:
1. Can I use and access the fingerprint sensor of android phones to scan fingerprint of different users?
2. Would I be able to develop in an unrooted Galaxy S6 Edge?
3. Are the implemetation of the sensors the same for every device?
Hoping for replies..
Second space is a very innovative feature in miui which I miss elsewhere. The main fun is switching like user account from same lock screen with just the password (fingerprint also). Simply screen off and place the other finger on the fingerprint scanner. Is this available on any custom oreo rom?
user8079 said:
Second space is a very innovative feature in miui which I miss elsewhere. The main fun is switching like user account from same lock screen with just the password (fingerprint also). Simply screen off and place the other finger on the fingerprint scanner. Is this available on any custom oreo rom?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.parallel.intl
Now go to sleep.
Stevica Smederevac said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.parallel.intl
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Parallel space app is like alternative to already present dual app feature where you can have multiple account for some apps like whatsapp, fb etc..
Second space is more like multi user feature which android have since lollipop.. but main difference is in multi user you create various users which you can access from
Notification tray ..select another user then it take few seconds to switch .. like switch to guest mode.. and it also take time to switch back..
Second space is like keeping only 2 user account ..but switch is very convenient and fast ..and you don't need mi account for that..
Hope I am able to explain..
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You can use Island, which utilizes Android for Work to do the similar.
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krasCGQ said:
You can use Island, which utilizes Android for Work to do the similar.
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Hey can you give more details ? Like the link or anything to know how to find the sources and use?
Wuttodo said:
Hey can you give more details ? Like the link or anything to know how to find the sources and use?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/closed-beta-test-incoming-companion-app-t3366295
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Anyone find a good alternative yet island sounds promising besides it still being in beta. I primarily use second space for its multiuser aspect and to map 18 instead of just 9 places in google maps. This is really the only thing holding me back from switching to lineage from miui :fingers-crossed:
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Anyone find a good alternative yet island sounds promising besides it still being in beta. I primarily use second space for its multiuser aspect and to map 18 instead of just 9 places in google maps. This is really the only thing holding me back from switching to lineage from miui :fingers-crossed:
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Try to use two user accounts , you can switch easily on lockscreen or power menu
Miui multiple spaces
I currently using 5 spaces in redmi note 4.how to create more spaces in my phone.
There is limit applied due to which i can create upto 5 spaces only.
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Try to use two user accounts , you can switch easily on lockscreen or power menu
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But is it possible, that you get the notification for both user accounts on both sides?
I have used Shelter on Custom ROM: a Free and Open-Source (FOSS) app that leverages the “Work Profile” feature of Android to provide an isolated space that you can install or clone apps into.
Shelter - Apps on Google Play
Isolate Apps / Multiple Accounts
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ChriMo said:
I have used Shelter on Custom ROM: a Free and Open-Source (FOSS) app that leverages the “Work Profile” feature of Android to provide an isolated space that you can install or clone apps into.
Shelter - Apps on Google Play
Isolate Apps / Multiple Accounts
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No shelter cannot :
PIN LOCK CODE { X } > USER PROFILE { X }
MIUI can open different user profile on pin/password.
I bank with Barclays, who do not support Google Pay.
With my Samsung Galaxy S8+, I was able to make NFC payments, even when the phone was locked.
However, since I bought my Huawei P30 Pro back in March 2019, I need to have the Barclays app open and logged into it before I am able to make payments.
This makes it slow to make payments, so I tend to just get my card out. It's faster. Though it defeats the point.
I have disabled any battery-saving features related to the app.
Any ideas?