Which phone to buy? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hi, Im using RN4 for a year now and I think its time to change it. My budget is limited to Mi A2 price range, maybe I could squeeze in for Mi 8 lite even. Ive considered Redmi Note 5, 6 but they dont seem that much of an upgrade. Ive read Mi A2 forum and users are complaining about Pie update, some clicking sounds coming from phone etc. While others are perfectly happy with it. I also like Android One. While Mi 8 Lite seems really high quality phone but it comes with Miui which im not fan of and hardly has any roms available. What do you think I should do? Btw I want good camera, never liked the front camera on RN4.

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Switching Galaxy S8 to Xiaomi Mi 8. Worth it?

Hi buddies!
My 3 last smartphones were Samsung ones (A5/2016, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8) and now I'm thinking of trying something different.
I have nothing to complain about my Galaxy S8, but let's say that I'm tired of it.
I use the smartphone mainly for for social media and taking pictures, so, the camera is the more important feature for me.
Thinking of a new smartphone, I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and OnePlus 6T in mind.
I had in my hands the Mi A1 and Mi A2, but never used one with MIUI.
How about the screen quality? Will I notice too much difference switching back from 1440p to 1080p?
Is Mi 8 camera better than Galaxy S8's?
What you guys have to say about this deal?
No, you won't notice the difference between 1440 and 1080. Screen is excellent but s8 screen is a little brighter. Nevertheless xiaomi developer team is really really slooooow don't expect to be up to date with Android releases. I mean I am running 8.1 on mi8 (flagship) while the S7 is already on Pie.
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Gadox182 said:
No, you won't notice the difference between 1440 and 1080. Screen is excellent but s8 screen is a little brighter. Nevertheless xiaomi developer team is really really slooooow don't expect to be up to date with Android releases. I mean I am running 8.1 on mi8 (flagship) while the S7 is already on Pie.
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Pie come soon
Maybe in December
Gadox182 said:
No, you won't notice the difference between 1440 and 1080. Screen is excellent but s8 screen is a little brighter. Nevertheless xiaomi developer team is really really slooooow don't expect to be up to date with Android releases. I mean I am running 8.1 on mi8 (flagship) while the S7 is already on Pie.
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s7 on pie hahaha i dont know not even s9 has it ...s9 do but is running on alpha in fact s7 will never run pie since wont be supported by one ui new samy ui ......mi 8 as already pie for an while ...slow update huh? they released updates every week so i don't know were u been ....i had an s8 exinos whit renovate ice rom still some how die while playing pubg i guess exinos is not as good for gaming like sd845
Xiaomi updates every week ONLY Beta Builds. S7 has PI look it up I can show you some picture later. Please stop confusing people glorifying xiaomi dev team.
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Most of Xiaomi users even don't know what is MIUI Beta/Weekly and the Global Stable ROM is very slow to update.
I had the S8 and made the change to Mi 8.
At first, running the Global stable rom, i was kinda let down. Hdr didn't work, camera was not good and headphone audio volume was low.
Then i installed the Global beta rom (based on pie). All the above problems were fixed, the camera if you want to install the bsg Gcam is Amazing. Stock is good too but Gcam is miles ahead. The norch support is improved, you can now get notifications on status bar.
The mi 8 is snappier ( touchwiz is laggy).Battery on this thing is really good (geting 7h SOT on miui). The Mi 8's screen is a downgrade but not as big as i first thought. I played many videos side by side and could notice "blacker" blacks on the S8.
My opinion is to go with mi 8 if you want to install a custom rom, to make it pixel-like or AOSP in general.
Imho even a Redmi note 6 pro would be a massive upgrade from any Samsung device.
Can't stand their roms and bloatware. Great hardware but awful software.
Gadox182 said:
Xiaomi updates every week ONLY Beta Builds. S7 has PI look it up I can show you some picture later. Please stop confusing people glorifying xiaomi dev team.
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S7 has Pie only on custom Roms! Mostly on crappy AOSP Rom's where the battery life and camera quality is really bad.
Mi 8 and also Poco has Pie on official Beta from vendor. Even the S9 didn't have a official beta from Vendor with Pie (as far i know, but don't keep an eye on S9 dev).
Please keep the facts! Has nothing to do with glorifying someone.
Gadox182 said:
Xiaomi updates every week ONLY Beta Builds. S7 has PI look it up I can show you some picture later. Please stop confusing people glorifying xiaomi dev team.
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No. You are confusing them. S7 has no official OTA pie update. S9 does not have stabel OTA pie. Infact, both Xiaomi and Samsung are really slow.
Ricardo Guariento said:
Hi buddies!
My 3 last smartphones were Samsung ones (A5/2016, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8) and now I'm thinking of trying something different.
I have nothing to complain about my Galaxy S8, but let's say that I'm tired of it.
I use the smartphone mainly for for social media and taking pictures, so, the camera is the more important feature for me.
Thinking of a new smartphone, I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and OnePlus 6T in mind.
I had in my hands the Mi A1 and Mi A2, but never used one with MIUI.
How about the screen quality? Will I notice too much difference switching back from 1440p to 1080p?
Is Mi 8 camera better than Galaxy S8's?
What you guys have to say about this deal?
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In principle, I advise you against it,
I have Mi8 it is very good phone at an excellent price, I moved from Galaxy Note 4
Mi8 battery life is great, usually I get +7 hours of SOT, and sometimes I reach 48 hours of use on one charge.
display is great, colors and brightness
I don't play games on it but the performance is smooth in general
the design and dimensions are very good also
the finger print sensor is fast , convenient and well placed.
charging is faster than Samsung's
I have used Samsung's software for years and I like, but you can easily get used to MIUI.
the stock camera software is not that good, but you can use a Gcam port like I do.
I have one complain about the Mi8 which is the speaker loudness, it is nearly inaudible if compared to my previous Note 4.
if you "need" a new phone immediately it will be a very good choice at a budget.
If you are looking for an upgrade from the S8, I think you Mi 8 is not a suitable one, neither the OP6T, especially with that in-display slow andn insecure finger print sensor.
I explained my reasons here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/love-mi-8-t3876024.
Ricardo Guariento said:
Hi buddies!
My 3 last smartphones were Samsung ones (A5/2016, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8) and now I'm thinking of trying something different.
I have nothing to complain about my Galaxy S8, but let's say that I'm tired of it.
I use the smartphone mainly for for social media and taking pictures, so, the camera is the more important feature for me.
Thinking of a new smartphone, I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and OnePlus 6T in mind.
I had in my hands the Mi A1 and Mi A2, but never used one with MIUI.
How about the screen quality? Will I notice too much difference switching back from 1440p to 1080p?
Is Mi 8 camera better than Galaxy S8's?
What you guys have to say about this deal?
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You will notice the difference in sound quality if you have an In-ear monitor (IEM) like KZ ZSN.
but price wise, and performance yeah I will definitely choose Mi8. will just need to unlock and tweak the audio. cheers
I've done it myself and I can say that I love the MI8 for its overall performance and MIUI10 which is to me so far the best Android experience. I do miss some stuff tough like the wireless charging and IP68 certification which was really nice to have. But I don't regret my purchase.
blop135 said:
I've done it myself and I can say that I love the MI8 for its overall performance and MIUI10 which is to me so far the best Android experience. I do miss some stuff tough like the wireless charging and IP68 certification which was really nice to have. But I don't regret my purchase.
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And what do you say about the camera?
Do you think it's better than S8's?
Some guys told be that Mi8 + GCam crushes S8 in pictures.
Ricardo Guariento said:
And what do you say about the camera?
Do you think it's better than S8's?
Some guys told be that Mi8 + GCam crushes S8 in pictures.
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I honestly couldn't tell if it's better or worse but it's really decent ?
I have the The mi 8 pro (in UK) and can confirm that the camera is nowhere near as good as the Samsung.
Very, very, disappointed.
Ricardo Guariento said:
And what do you say about the camera?
Do you think it's better than S8's?
Some guys told be that Mi8 + GCam crushes S8 in pictures.
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Just upgrade to miui 10 pie and see difference
Based on Dxo after update mi 8 score same as mi mix3 [103]
I used s8 plus and mi 8 camera side by side and mi 8 camera so better than s8 in Photo .

Should I Switch to Mi 9 ?

Title says it all pretty much. Is it worth it to switch? I just want to have full screen experience (teardrop notch is way better than this one ) . I was also thinking of Mi mix 3 because of true bezel-less display but Mi 9 has SD855 and great camera ,that's why I'm tilting towards it (We don't have Mi mix 3 5G here)
You should at least wait another generation that will be about 6 months. Totally not worth it yet. The Pocophone is quite powerful and there is absolutely no benefits for buying a mix 3 and Mi 9, more likely you will be annoyed of the less innovation later on.

If you were to change...

Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
amn1987 said:
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
SpawnX1200 said:
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.

Can anyone recommend a better phone for €240?

It's nearly Christmas and I'm looking for a gift for my mum. For the past 4 years she's been using a Samsung Galaxy s3 and has been reluctant to upgrade, though at this point it's become so temperamental that Santa's gonna put his foot down and get her a new phone
I love my pocophone, she loves the photos I take with it and I've got a chunk of cash burning a hole in my pocket. I've seen the 128 gb version new for €240 which seems a no brainer
MIUI is no harder to use than the antiquated junk on her s3 and she'll love the 2 day battery life
My question to you good people is:
I haven't been watching the other phones on the market. Is there anything that competes seriously in the same price range? I'd rather not get her anything second hand as Santa still doesn't recycle, surprisingly enough
Thanks for any suggestions
I was hoping for the note 10 / cc9 pro but I'd say other than the camera it is worse and costs 450€, like wtf. The only thing which the poco is lacking in my opinion is nfc. If she is not going to use it she'll be perfectly fine with the phone. Ah and ghost touches. Lets hope that there are no fts panels around anymore or whatever the reason for that is.
I would say the Poco F1 might be overkill. Go checkout the Redmi Note 7 or Redmi Note 8 plenty fast and also very good camera. Might be a bit cheaper and will work just as good.
lolmensch said:
I was hoping for the note 10 / cc9 pro but I'd say other than the camera it is worse and costs 450€, like wtf. The only thing which the poco is lacking in my opinion is nfc. If she is not going to use it she'll be perfectly fine with the phone. Ah and ghost touches. Lets hope that there are no fts panels around anymore or whatever the reason for that is.
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I miss NFC too, but mum wouldn't know what to do with it! Agreed about the note 10. Wondered about getting her a Redmi Note 8, but I gather the camera lets it down
lukesan said:
I would say the Poco F1 might be overkill. Go checkout the Redmi Note 7 or Redmi Note 8 plenty fast and also very good camera. Might be a bit cheaper and will work just as good.
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Perhaps you're right - any opinions of the camera?
I guess the battery life would be huge too, given the processor
The Moto One Action And One Vision are pretty good fones...
thesoupthief said:
Perhaps you're right - any opinions of the camera?
I guess the battery life would be huge too, given the processor
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If she has an S3 now she will be over the moon with the Redmi Note 7 or 8 camera, my colleague was really happy with the pictures. A serious advantage over the S3 in darker wintertime etc. Also the speed of the camera is a lot faster. You can also install Gcam on them without rooting or modding them which is also great if you want to get her into photography.
When it comes down to battery life, yup, both phones are really amazing.
I also own a Redmi Note 5 pro and to be honest and fair, the processor in the Poco F1 is overkill for what I do. The Redmi Note 5 already handles everything more than fast enough without any waiting. Click and it's there, no frustration or lag. The 7 and 8 even have faster cpu's so no worries on that front.
Just some advice if you buy for your mother (my mother has a Redmi Note 5 pro also, guess how that happened ). What I did was order a glass screen protector and some cases. I guess for 20 euro on Aliexpress you are more than settled. Giving her the phone is really nice but giving it completely protected and usable is a must and she will really like that.
Redmi Note 8 pro or Mi 9 lite
I followed the above recommendations and bought a Redmi note 8
It arrived this week
It's great! She's gonna love it!
(Unfortunately I got it from an AliExpress seller meaning I was hit for another chunk of vat - should have bought it from eglobalcentral where I got my f1; they ship from within the eu)
Thanks for the advice peeps!
Interesting to note the feel of it - felt at least as well put together as my pocophone. Obviously a tiny bit of lag noticeable here and there, but it was minimal - though I saved it the burden of trying PUBG on it!
fones €240
Realme note 5 pro
Nokia 6.x
Mi8
xiaomi A3 (but ram is only 4gb , however xiaomi Cc9e chinese version has 6gb, camera result is not so good)
y7 (amazing camera)
and ofcourse
Galaxy M30 ! (or if you can go €300) (m30s 6/128 variant is something you should seriously check out)
Go with Redmi Note 8 Pro
As i strongly believe she doesn't require anything like Snapdragon 845

Poco F1 or Redmi ?

I know, on paper, its no contest, But I am trying to decide between Redmi Note 8 and Poco F1. The difference between them is only £40
These are the important factors for me, the first 4 are must haves.
Good Battery life
Good Custom ROM support (now and future)
Headphone socket
SD Card
Notification LED
Reasonable Screen
Reasonable performance, (no gaming and was content with Redmi 5 Pro 4Gb Snapdrgon 636 until it broke)
I know the Poco F1 is much higher spec, but I dont really like the look (ugly cut out at the top and big bezel at the bottom). Plus because Redmi 8 is newer, I thought maybe better support for custom roms, in the future.
What do you think ?
I just bought my mum a Redmi note 8. Gotta say, it's a really nice phone for the price. She loves it
The F1 beats it pretty much all round though - note 8 has (arguably) slightly better battery life, the ir blaster is a nice gimmick and you can get an NFC version of the note 8 (a feature which I really miss), though that one doesn't have a notification light
I'd suggest you wait a couple of months for the note 9, but I suspect you'd still be better getting an F1!
The Poco F1 wins on nearly every spec. CPU,Graphics, BT, Memory, etc. The only problem with it, is that huge notch, large chin and bezels scream 2018 (in my mind).
Thanks for letting me know about the Redmi Note 9, seems like its imminent
My fear is that all Redmi phones will follow the Redmit 8 pro and have a mediatek chipset, rumoured below. That will kill chance of custom roms,. noones interested developing for Mediatek,
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
poster74 said:
The Poco F1 wins on nearly every spec. CPU,Graphics, BT, Memory, etc. The only problem with it, is that huge notch, large chin and bezels scream 2018 (in my mind).
Thanks for letting me know about the Redmi Note 9, seems like its imminent
My fear is that all Redmi phones will follow the Redmit 8 pro and have a mediatek chipset, rumoured below. That will kill chance of custom roms,. noones interested developing for Mediatek,
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
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That's true, that the note 8 pro has a mediatek soc, but it's supposed to be very good. If rooting is your thing (used to be mine but I just don't have time these days - plus I can live with MIUI on my f1)
Still it will be outperformed by the F1, plus the RN 8pro will likely cost a good bit more than the F1
The F1 is not likely to get more first party firmware upgrades though. If rooting is your thing, get an f1 and have fun for as long as the battery lasts (the specs should hold up for 3 or 4 years)
Or save up and get the F2 when it launches (assuming it's not a turkey)
I usually always go for function over looks. Just abit background, it was my Redmi Note 5 pro *(Whyred) which recently died on me. Its a 636 Chipset and had 4Gb of RAM. And for me, I had zero performance issues with it for 18 months. I guess I am a light user. Thats why, on balance the Redmi 8 might be better for me (looks etc).
Just a quick one, no definites of course, but the Redmi note 9 seems imminent ? i.e March ish ?
I do get what you are saying about custom roms and time. However, I dont mind,
poster74 said:
I usually always go for function over looks. Just abit background, it was my Redmi Note 5 pro *(Whyred) which recently died on me. Its a 636 Chipset and had 4Gb of RAM. And for me, I had zero performance issues with it for 18 months. I guess I am a light user. Thats why, on balance the Redmi 8 might be better for me (looks etc).
Just a quick one, no definites of course, but the Redmi note 9 seems imminent ? i.e March ish ?
I do get what you are saying about custom roms and time. However, I dont mind,
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Poco X2 would be a great choice for you.:good:
Redmi note8 pro is on MediaTek Gaming chip! with more Ram,
both are on LCD
however poco has advantage of many Custom roms! kernels etc where i don't think with note 8 pro you will enjoy this !
check xda forums for note 8 pro for custom roms and kernel status!
Kcal is must on lcd to to fix color saturation!

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