Aperture vs portrait mode - Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers

I think like many, I've disabled all the beautification effects and lightning effects in portrait mode.
Wondering in that case if anyone is aware of a difference between both modes? I've kept using portrait but actually wondering if I should use aperture instead since it allows to change the point of focus and aperture strength effect afterwards which would be beneficial when portrait mode fails to blur some stuff or blurs too much stuff.
Just wondering what others have tried, thoughts, etc.

Aperture is more like a real DSLR. Portrait mode will try and keep faces in focus whilst also having bokeh.
Personally I prefer aperture mode. This allows you to edit after the fact and is better quality.

Maybe you can select different bokeh-types in portrait mode.

I don't get the soft effect.. tried the suggested on other thread.. disable all beauty effects and choose the darkest skin tone finally choose the the shapes (the star icon) of the lights on the background

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[Q] Lock Exposure, Shutter and ISO?

Since the SGSII has a pretty good camera I was wondering if it is possible to manually lock exposure, shutter and ISO settings?
With a full HD resolution I would like to get some nice filming done but without the camera automatically adjusting settings. It ruins the look.
Maybe there is already software out there which I havent found?
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The main thing is seems that you'll want to do is to manually adjust the white balance rather than keeping that on Auto.
Exposure lock: There's no exposure lock. However, you can manually adjust the exposure value. So if you want to shoot something bright, you can lower it. If you want to shoot something dark, you can increase it.
Shutter speed. There's no way to manually adjust the shutter speed. (So you can't capture something like a waterfall with slow shutter speed to get the motion effect.) Like most non-DSLR cams, the shutter speed is automatically adjusted depending on lighting conditions, flash, and ISO.
ISO. Yes, ISO can be manually adjusted.
The cam is great and can probably replace most people's dedicated point&shoot cams. But it's definitely not as versatile as even a budget DSLR cam.
The camera changes exposure wile you are shooting. That my problem is.
When I walk out of my flat with my camera switched on I don't want to see the automatic exposure correction. Dunno how to describe but have you never seen the effect when you pan from a window to your wall? It must be possible to lock these settings to eliminate the automatic correction.
What I like to see as an option is the autofocus, I got lot's of refocussing in low light conditions when focus was actually perfect
Also would be really awesome if you could set the exposure time to image starry nights, I mean, the device is called Galaxy is it not
Unfortuanely I am not a developer so I cannot contribute to these options and can only hope some cool devguy with the knowhow has the same wishes as me

Mod request: enable the sharpness menu in manual and RAW camera mode.

If anyone could enable the sharpness menu in manual and RAW camera mode, that would be a killer feature!
That would make this phone killer, absolutely killer. Should be one single hex/framework edit.
The auto-sharpen is awful and should not be on by default in Manual or Raw mode. Manual mode (the big "M" when you click the Camera logo in the settings within the camera) lets you change focus, contrast, zoom, exposure time, but not sharpness (?!) even though sharpness can be adjusted in the "Auto" camera. Very bad oversight, HTC! Hoping you can mod this fixed, ungray the menu.
Another nice camera tweak would be to enable ISO from 50, 75, 150 in the ISO slider (manual/RAW) and exposure time >2 seconds for those night-time scenes and light painting, etc.
But just that sharpness thing would be miraculous, thanks!
curiousGeorge said:
If anyone could enable the sharpness menu in manual and RAW camera mode, that would be a killer feature!
That would make this phone killer, absolutely killer. Should be one single hex/framework edit.
The auto-sharpen is awful and should not be on by default in Manual or Raw mode. Manual mode (the big "M" when you click the Camera logo in the settings within the camera) lets you change focus, contrast, zoom, exposure time, but not sharpness (?!) even though sharpness can be adjusted in the "Auto" camera. Very bad oversight, HTC! Hoping you can mod this fixed, ungray the menu.
Another nice camera tweak would be to enable ISO from 50, 75, 150 in the ISO slider (manual/RAW) and exposure time >2 seconds for those night-time scenes and light painting, etc.
But just that sharpness thing would be miraculous, thanks!
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Could a moderator move this thread where it belongs? I'm not sure this is the right place for this.
That would or could be a great mod.
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Questions about the camera

So I've had the phone for a couple of weeks an am loving the camera. However there are a few things I've not been able to figure out with regards to the camera, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction:
1: When in Auto mode or Manual mode, I can't seem to turn on OIS. The OIS icon is grayed out. Can I use OIS in these modes? If so, how do I turn it on? In what modes is OIS available?
2: Is there anyway of changing the default metering mode? Even on my old Galaxy S4 I could switch between Matrix metering, Center weighted and Spot metering.
3: Is there any way of taking bracketed shots?
4: Why when in manual mode do the various controls not rotate between landscape and portrait modes. When I'm holding the phone vertically the WB, MF, ISO etc.. controls are in landscape mode.
I do own Camera FV-5 and I know that solves some of these issues. Does anyone know if FV-5 will use OIS?
Any Insight is appreciated.
1. You might have issue with your phone. Click on auto, then settings wheel, when switching it takes between 1-3 seconds from gray to white.
Manual mode does not have OIS available.
2. Metering mode. Sorry, can't switch. I know, it sucks.
3. Bracketed shots, ?.
4. It has to do with the widened of the screen . They set the UI up like that. The settings and flash will rotate but not the others. Maybe update to LG's camera UI in future will bring that.
Nope, the OIS won't turn on.
Is this something I need to check with Verizon on?
AndroidCraig said:
So I've had the phone for a couple of weeks an am loving the camera. However there are a few things I've not been able to figure out with regards to the camera, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction:
1: When in Auto mode or Manual mode, I can't seem to turn on OIS. The OIS icon is grayed out. Can I use OIS in these modes? If so, how do I turn it on? In what modes is OIS available?
2: Is there anyway of changing the default metering mode? Even on my old Galaxy S4 I could switch between Matrix metering, Center weighted and Spot metering.
3: Is there any way of taking bracketed shots?
4: Why when in manual mode do the various controls not rotate between landscape and portrait modes. When I'm holding the phone vertically the WB, MF, ISO etc.. controls are in landscape mode.
I do own Camera FV-5 and I know that solves some of these issues. Does anyone know if FV-5 will use OIS?
Any Insight is appreciated.
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1. OIS/Steadyshot option is available on Auto mode for rear camera (See attached). I think in manual mode it defaults to OIS, and SteadyShot in Manual Video Mode. (See Pic attached).
2. I was missing this feature as well, no different metering option unfortunately. The only thing I noticed that works is a spot metering using the FFC, you can touch a spot and the metering will be based on your spot of choice.
3. No Bracketed Shots in the default camera app as well, need to look into 3rd party apps. There's only burst mode, which is different, and even then it's only with the FFC.
4. THIS is my biggest pet peeves as well, such a bad UX design. You would think that they would take into account that people will use the phone in both orientation instead of just landscape. This problem doesn't just happen in camera mode unfortunately. I wished the 2nd screen icon will rotate as well when you put your phone in landscape mode because currently it's fixed into portrait.
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1. OIS/Steadyshot option is available on Auto mode for rear camera (See attached). I think in manual mode it defaults to OIS, and SteadyShot in Manual Video Mode. (See Pic attached).
2. I was missing this feature as well, no different metering option unfortunately. The only thing I noticed that works is a spot metering using the FFC, you can touch a spot and the metering will be based on your spot of choice.
3. No Bracketed Shots in the default camera app as well, need to look into 3rd party apps. There's only burst mode, which is different, and even then it's only with the FFC.
4. THIS is my biggest pet peeves as well, such a bad UX design. You would think that they would take into account that people will use the phone in both orientation instead of just landscape. This problem doesn't just happen in camera mode unfortunately. I wished the 2nd screen icon will rotate as well when you put your phone in landscape mode because currently it's fixed into portrait.
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1: I cleared data and cache data on the camera app and that seemed to fix it. I know have OIS again.
2&3 frustrating, but I guess that's why I have Camera FV-5.
4: My second screen icons all rotate to landscape and back to portrait. Weird that your's don't.
AndroidCraig said:
1: I cleared data and cache data on the camera app and that seemed to fix it. I know have OIS again.
2&3 frustrating, but I guess that's why I have Camera FV-5.
4: My second screen icons all rotate to landscape and back to portrait. Weird that your's don't.
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I tried Manual Camera app the other day, you can bump the FFC ISO up past the default setting on that one. I think I could bump it up to like ISO 12800, and yes it looks like **** lol. But it's an option.
Are you talking about the second screen within the camera app? In camera app, yes it rotates. Other than that, no they don't rotate. Like say when you're watching a video or doing something else in landscape mode, my second screen is fixed into portrait mode. So when a text or notification comes in, they don't roll the "correct" way.
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I tried Manual Camera app the other day, you can bump the FFC ISO up past the default setting on that one. I think I could bump it up to like ISO 12800, and yes it looks like **** lol. But it's an option.
Are you talking about the second screen within the camera app? In camera app, yes it rotates. Other than that, no they don't rotate. Like say when you're watching a video or doing something else in landscape mode, my second screen is fixed into portrait mode. So when a text or notification comes in, they don't roll the "correct" way.
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My second screen rotates regardless of the app I'm in. You may want to do a factory reset and see if that fixes the issue. if not I'd go back to the store and do an exchange.
I've not heard of the manual camera app. What does it bring that the stock or Camera FV-5 don't?

Camera Action Shot

Does anyone know how to take a quality action shot? I was trying to capture my students jumping into a pool but every shot turned out blurry. Any suggestions for settings would be appreciated
You need to either use flash or have lots of natural light for an action-stopping shot. That or try using pro mode and bump up ISO and/or shutter speed.
What Itaintrite said but I'd add that in pro mode, only set the shutter speed (probably 1/500 or faster) but don't touch Iso. Let the cemera figure it out. If the light changes (ie: you're outside and there is a mix of clouds and sun), the camera will change Iso as needed. If you set both, you might run into over or under exposures when the amount of light changes.

Camera: can't get temperature right

First, let me say I'm a camera dummy. This is the first phone I have that I try to take pics with. That said, I can't seem to get indoor shots right with this camera. Pics always too bright and too cool.
My room is well lit with florescent warm lights. But pics come out looking like I'm in a hospital room. Bright, cool. I'm in a hotel lounge right now. Plenty of light, not dim, but warm. Pics come out too bright, too cool.
I've tried using all the temp settings in the stock app. I've tried gcam 6, 7, hypercam. HDR off, on, enhanced. AI, no AI. Doesn't matter.
For reference, with a borrowed iPhone 10, default settings, point and shoot, pics come out looking like what my eyes see in same room. Okay, that's a much more expensive phone, obviously, but seeing posted pics I know this phone can take good pictures.
I'd appreciate any pointers. Thanks in advance
Stock camera HDR definitely produces "colder" pics comparing to gcam. Among gcam modes I've tried the most liked was Parrot's Astrophoto V12. Also I don't like elevated ISO of pics produced with stock camera HDR. Can you try Parrot's gcam with AWB mode set to IMX586 in Photo Advanced Settings?
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Stock camera HDR definitely produces "colder" pics comparing to gcam. Among gcam modes I've tried the most liked was Parrot's Astrophoto V12. Also I don't like elevated ISO of pics produced with stock camera HDR. Can you try Parrot's gcam with AWB mode set to IMX586 in Photo Advanced Settings?
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Thanks. I'll try it when I get home and have decent connectivity.
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. Can you try Parrot's gcam with AWB mode set to IMX586 in Photo Advanced Settings?
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I downloaded the gcam from the link and made setting change as suggested. Unfortunately it did not make a big difference from the stock camera temp-wise. To make sure it's the camera and not the screen, I looked at the same photos on my OLED TV set to warm 2 (closest to D65), it's still skews blue.
Manually reducing exposure helps with brightness, but not so much the temp. HDR is kind of a mixed bag.
Maybe I just have wrong expectations of what a camera should be able to do lol
From my experience stock camera gets exposure and white balance pretty good (AI turned on), very close to what I see with a naked eye. Pretty much all Gcam apps take very cool and desaturated pictures on default settings. It needs quite a lot of tinkering to get them right, and even then stock camera produces more natural results. Stock HDR is a joke (at least in situations where I tried it). Gcam clearly wins in very low light, otherwise I use stock app exclusively.
I would advise to try manual WB settings in stock camera, but you already did that with no improvement (which sounds a bit strange to be honest), so not sure what else to suggest.
About the exposure - what Auto Exposure settings do you have? Mine is center weighted and works good. If there is a face in the photo, it gets priority and the rest of the photo might be under/overexposed, but that's the point of this feature.
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From my experience stock camera gets exposure and white balance pretty good (AI turned on), very close to what I see with a naked eye. Pretty much all Gcam apps take very cool and desaturated pictures on default settings. It needs quite a lot of tinkering to get them right, and even then stock camera produces more natural results. Stock HDR is a joke (at least in situations where I tried it). Gcam clearly wins in very low light, otherwise I use stock app exclusively.
I would advise to try manual WB settings in stock camera, but you already did that with no improvement (which sounds a bit strange to be honest), so not sure what else to suggest.
About the exposure - what Auto Exposure settings do you have? Mine is center weighted and works good. If there is a face in the photo, it gets priority and the rest of the photo might be under/overexposed, but that's the point of this feature.
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How do I do manual WB in the stock cam? AE is center weighted (it's the default). Thanks
barth2 said:
How do I do manual WB in the stock cam? AE is center weighted (it's the default). Thanks
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You need to switch to pro mode.
Btw.manual white balance works only in certain gcam versions, more often than not it doesn't do anything. The most easy way is to try some "crazy" WB and tap to focus. If the screen doesn't change the color tint, you need to use different gcam version (or maybe change some low level gcam settings, but not sure which ones).
Edit: in Hypercam, enabling "focus tracking" breaks manual white balance settings. Without this feature white balance can be changed.

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