Bokeh effect Emui 9 - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

Hi,today I received update to emui 9 on my mate 10, and after update the camera is different , I have portrait mode with bokeh effect, but it's not working, also we don't have anymore option to focus after I taked picture ?

tadik said:
Hi,today I received update to wifi 9 on my mate 10, and after update the camera is different , I have portrait mode with bokeh effect, but it's not working, also we don't have anymore option to focus after I taked picture ?
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It's called aperture mode

steelmaggot said:
It's called aperture mode
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Yes, found it but any idea why I can't see effects like hearts, circles, swirl , etc... In portrait mode ?

There are 3 buttons in the lower part of the Portrait viewfinder. The first one(left) sets the type of bokeh. It's probably set to "None" in your case. Aperture mode is a separate mode/tab to the left

andrei80 said:
There are 3 buttons in the lower part of the Portrait viewfinder. The first one(left) sets the type of bokeh. It's probably set to "None" in your case. Aperture mode is a separate mode/tab to the left
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Yes, there are buttons but effects are not visible at all, with or without face detected. The new camera app is really crap...

domy_os said:
Yes, there are buttons but effects are not visible at all, with or without face detected. The new camera app is really crap...
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Exactly that I meaned ... Effect not visible

Works well. Just select something other than "None"
Tried to remove the tired mug, but couldn't...

Those effects are based on lights behind you they won't just appear..
I have taken a few successfully, try to picture something in front of Christmas lights and see the magic

Yes, the shape chosen for the blur is more visible when applied to lights, but no Portrait bokeh can be seen when "None" is selected. Also, sometimes it forgets that setting and you have to enable it again

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Questions about the camera

So I've had the phone for a couple of weeks an am loving the camera. However there are a few things I've not been able to figure out with regards to the camera, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction:
1: When in Auto mode or Manual mode, I can't seem to turn on OIS. The OIS icon is grayed out. Can I use OIS in these modes? If so, how do I turn it on? In what modes is OIS available?
2: Is there anyway of changing the default metering mode? Even on my old Galaxy S4 I could switch between Matrix metering, Center weighted and Spot metering.
3: Is there any way of taking bracketed shots?
4: Why when in manual mode do the various controls not rotate between landscape and portrait modes. When I'm holding the phone vertically the WB, MF, ISO etc.. controls are in landscape mode.
I do own Camera FV-5 and I know that solves some of these issues. Does anyone know if FV-5 will use OIS?
Any Insight is appreciated.
1. You might have issue with your phone. Click on auto, then settings wheel, when switching it takes between 1-3 seconds from gray to white.
Manual mode does not have OIS available.
2. Metering mode. Sorry, can't switch. I know, it sucks.
3. Bracketed shots, ?.
4. It has to do with the widened of the screen . They set the UI up like that. The settings and flash will rotate but not the others. Maybe update to LG's camera UI in future will bring that.
Nope, the OIS won't turn on.
Is this something I need to check with Verizon on?
AndroidCraig said:
So I've had the phone for a couple of weeks an am loving the camera. However there are a few things I've not been able to figure out with regards to the camera, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction:
1: When in Auto mode or Manual mode, I can't seem to turn on OIS. The OIS icon is grayed out. Can I use OIS in these modes? If so, how do I turn it on? In what modes is OIS available?
2: Is there anyway of changing the default metering mode? Even on my old Galaxy S4 I could switch between Matrix metering, Center weighted and Spot metering.
3: Is there any way of taking bracketed shots?
4: Why when in manual mode do the various controls not rotate between landscape and portrait modes. When I'm holding the phone vertically the WB, MF, ISO etc.. controls are in landscape mode.
I do own Camera FV-5 and I know that solves some of these issues. Does anyone know if FV-5 will use OIS?
Any Insight is appreciated.
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1. OIS/Steadyshot option is available on Auto mode for rear camera (See attached). I think in manual mode it defaults to OIS, and SteadyShot in Manual Video Mode. (See Pic attached).
2. I was missing this feature as well, no different metering option unfortunately. The only thing I noticed that works is a spot metering using the FFC, you can touch a spot and the metering will be based on your spot of choice.
3. No Bracketed Shots in the default camera app as well, need to look into 3rd party apps. There's only burst mode, which is different, and even then it's only with the FFC.
4. THIS is my biggest pet peeves as well, such a bad UX design. You would think that they would take into account that people will use the phone in both orientation instead of just landscape. This problem doesn't just happen in camera mode unfortunately. I wished the 2nd screen icon will rotate as well when you put your phone in landscape mode because currently it's fixed into portrait.
baymon said:
1. OIS/Steadyshot option is available on Auto mode for rear camera (See attached). I think in manual mode it defaults to OIS, and SteadyShot in Manual Video Mode. (See Pic attached).
2. I was missing this feature as well, no different metering option unfortunately. The only thing I noticed that works is a spot metering using the FFC, you can touch a spot and the metering will be based on your spot of choice.
3. No Bracketed Shots in the default camera app as well, need to look into 3rd party apps. There's only burst mode, which is different, and even then it's only with the FFC.
4. THIS is my biggest pet peeves as well, such a bad UX design. You would think that they would take into account that people will use the phone in both orientation instead of just landscape. This problem doesn't just happen in camera mode unfortunately. I wished the 2nd screen icon will rotate as well when you put your phone in landscape mode because currently it's fixed into portrait.
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1: I cleared data and cache data on the camera app and that seemed to fix it. I know have OIS again.
2&3 frustrating, but I guess that's why I have Camera FV-5.
4: My second screen icons all rotate to landscape and back to portrait. Weird that your's don't.
AndroidCraig said:
1: I cleared data and cache data on the camera app and that seemed to fix it. I know have OIS again.
2&3 frustrating, but I guess that's why I have Camera FV-5.
4: My second screen icons all rotate to landscape and back to portrait. Weird that your's don't.
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I tried Manual Camera app the other day, you can bump the FFC ISO up past the default setting on that one. I think I could bump it up to like ISO 12800, and yes it looks like **** lol. But it's an option.
Are you talking about the second screen within the camera app? In camera app, yes it rotates. Other than that, no they don't rotate. Like say when you're watching a video or doing something else in landscape mode, my second screen is fixed into portrait mode. So when a text or notification comes in, they don't roll the "correct" way.
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I tried Manual Camera app the other day, you can bump the FFC ISO up past the default setting on that one. I think I could bump it up to like ISO 12800, and yes it looks like **** lol. But it's an option.
Are you talking about the second screen within the camera app? In camera app, yes it rotates. Other than that, no they don't rotate. Like say when you're watching a video or doing something else in landscape mode, my second screen is fixed into portrait mode. So when a text or notification comes in, they don't roll the "correct" way.
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My second screen rotates regardless of the app I'm in. You may want to do a factory reset and see if that fixes the issue. if not I'd go back to the store and do an exchange.
I've not heard of the manual camera app. What does it bring that the stock or Camera FV-5 don't?

No landscape panorama photos?

I've noticed that I am unable to rotate the panorama feature to landscape mode... I have never had a phone unable to change the orientation of the panorama snapshot feature.
Try to replicate it like this: Rotate your phones orientation 180*, the camera buttons should rotate correctly. Now if you have the same issue as I, the panorama bar should stay in a vertical position.
They come out like crap if I take the panorama shot vertically, its center pivot point screws up the image versus it being in landscape mode to get a wider shot.
Anyone else experience this?
Auto-Brightness, FFC low light issues, and this issue are all making me decide against this phone.
Mine works fine.
Here's what it looks like. Portrait mode vs landscape mode. Pay attention to the camera buttons to distinguish between them.
Really weird bug.
When you first use the camera in Panorama mode, the phone flashes up a message saying you have to use the phone in portrait.
So it's not a bug, it's an intentional thing by LG. Why they do it is probably Reasons.
I've reflashed, reinstalled, and re-setup my phones so many times over the years. Must have glossed over the pop up at one point.
nobnut said:
Mine works fine.
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In landscape mode?
I'm using the h860 version and I also noticed this and I didn't read the pop up message that I can only use the panorama in portrait mode. That's fine with me, it can still produce the best panorama I've ever seen....
LG G6 Panorama
Yes. Why on earth did L.G. spoil a magnificent phone with this lack of thought. Not being able to take panoramas in landscape mode defeats the whole object of using the feature.
This and the discontinuance of the home screen instant call icons were a very bad change in the new phone that would otherwise have been close to perfect.
Also why did they discontinue the use of the colour changing L.E.D. on the new version.

After Pie update no bokeh effect?

On emui 8 I could take selfies with bokeh effect,but after updating to emui9 it does not show any effect. And I can't find any option to activate it. Does emui 9 delete the bokeh effect?
I can still use that. There a bottom left button to use the feature.
assyriska said:
On emui 8 I could take selfies with bokeh effect,but after updating to emui9 it does not show any effect. And I can't find any option to activate it. Does emui 9 delete the bokeh effect?
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You are right it doent show any difference unless you are in a perfect location then it will show some effects.
duanpv said:
I can still use that. There a bottom left button to use the feature.
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Does it do anything at all (on the resulting picture I mean)? In my case it doesn't seem to do anything.
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Does it do anything at all (on the resulting picture I mean)? In my case it doesn't seem to do anything.
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It does nothing at all. It even makes picture more worse than normal photo.

P30 pro features/issues people don't talk about much

Hi there,
I wanted to start a discussion about stuff that we like/dislike about this phone, but not the obvious stuff - rather things that are not much talked about. When I read about this phone, most popular topics are about fingerprint sensor, screen resolution, 50x zoom, night mode...
So first, things I don't like:
1. Aspect ratio issues:
- No 16:9 photos aspect ratio.
- Screen 19.5:9 aspect ratio can cause issues in games/applications that only support 16:9 aspect ratio. It's not a huge issue, because most apps support wide screen. It's also the same for other wide screen phones.
- Screen mirroring to TV - because of 19.5:9 aspect ratio, there are black bars on top and bottom, so when you are viewing 4:3 photos on 16:9 TV, the photo is very small and shown only in the center of TV with black bars around it. I don't know how other wide screen phones work, but I guess the same way.
2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom.
- How different lenses view is synced - widescreen and normal 1x are in sync when changing between them, you get basically the picture in the same position, but 5x optical and normal are just so much out of sync, that it is very very visible how it switches when you go from 4.9x to 5x. Not a huge issue, but it could be better.
- There is no level indicator in other modes than pro.
3. Speaker:
- The quality is OK at most, when compared to Samsung for example (Samsung S10 has amazing speakers), but it's a phone after all, so I don't expect much anyway.
Now things I like:
1. Huawei Share. My god, this thing is amazing. You can just connect your PC to your phone with WiFi and browse files normally as if it was connected with a usb cable! That is truly amazing. I didn't have it in Xiaomi, newest Samsung phones also don't have it. Why nobody talks about this amazing feature?
2. Camera app:
- Amazing zoom possibilities, 5x zoom which I'm using constantly during my trips and I don't know how people can say they don't use it much. There is something called perspective and this photo shows what I'm talking about. You can get especially amazing pictures when you have mountains in the background. So much discussed 50x zoom is not really usable, but 20x still has amazing quality.
- All different modes, especially the light painting/silky water is nice. Also the pro mode with so many different settings and 30 seconds shutter time. There are much more modes and possibilities than most youtube reviewers show us. They usually just show night mode, 5x zoom, 50x zoom and that's it. Like that's just 10% of options in that app! When you really start knowing the app, it is just much better than Samsung or Xiaomi camera apps. You can shoot much better pictures when you know what you are doing.
3. EMUI:
- I really like this system, the icons, design, features, it's really nice. I don't know how anyone can 'hate' this system? I came to EMUI from Xiaomi and Samsung phones and for me it's just better.
Huawei P30 Pro is my first Huawei phone and I must say I'm really impressed by the price/quality ratio. What are your thoughts?
Point 2: tray to rec videos with opencam or edgecam. You can choose 1x camera and zoom in or you can choose 5x camera. No changes between they.
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom."
this to me is a huge issue...as i was trying to photo one of our dogs in evening time and it would only zoom via digital.....every now and then it would flicker to ultra clear optical but not for long enough to get a shot.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
i can imagine being in the same situation as you recording a gig and that would be troublesome.
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To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
dougm1970 said:
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
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Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
Neo Cortex said:
Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
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thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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dougm1970 said:
thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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You just tap the icon to switch to the selfie camera and when you tap it again it takes you to the next lens. I discovered it by accident
HDJ80 said:
To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
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Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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With edgecam or opencam you can choose the lense.
If you choose 1x lense an make zoom is only digital zoom.
For 5x optical zoom you must change to 5x lense.
Pivoo said:
Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
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Mine stays on optical all the time in video.
Yes pictures are generally better with AI but OC enables you to stay with optical even when light is low.
Issue :ghost notifications.
By ghost notifications i mean there is a sound and vibration but nothing else. Now I am pretty used to them, but from day one and after a couple of updates, they are still present. I have disable notifications from almost all apps except messaging ones, but ghost notifications keep going! Even during night with flight mode on. ?
HDJ80 said:
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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Where do I find Edgecam? It's not in the UK Play Store as far as I can see.
Sorry, hedgecam 2.
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
n-j-f said:
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Actually you can turn it off.
Go to Settings ---> Sounds (or Tones) then pick the last entry and deactivate Lockscreen sound.
I don't know how it looks in english, as my native language is German
n-j-f said:
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Go to sound > more sound settings > screen lock. Disable it and there u go.

Question Night mode on 10x is garbage

Has anyone noticed too much noise on the 10x lens in nightmode?
Ummmm...f/4.9 apperture, what do you expect from a 1/3.52" sensor.
The perisope is a lens for good (day) light.
You wouldn't shut your Canon 250mm f/5.6 at night without tripod.
amirage said:
Has anyone noticed too much noise on the 10x lens in nightmode?
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The telephoto lens' aren't meant for nightography. Use 1x at night.
Install camera assistant then go into the stock camera settings and do the following...
Camera Assistant
Auto lens switching
Toggle auto lens switching off
This has you truly using the lens you've selected. Cause ordinarily the camera crops the main lens in sometimes even when you choose 3x or 10x lens. Ridiculous! Makes the zoom grainy as hell
lawtq said:
Install camera assistant then go into the stock camera settings and do the following...
Camera settings
Auto lens switching
Toggle auto lens switching off
This has you truly using the lens you've selected. Cause ordinarily the camera crops the main lens in sometimes even when you choose 3x or 10x lens. Ridiculous! Makes the zoom grainy as hell
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OMG thank you! I was wondering about that!
EtherealRemnant said:
OMG thank you! I was wondering about that!
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It worked? It improved my pics
Wow why isn't this known more... first time seeing this
joewoo said:
Wow why isn't this known more... first time seeing this
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Is ridiculous isn't it. Cropping the main lens to give us grainy hell. Works sometimes for the situation but for me it's more of a miss than a hit
lawtq said:
Is ridiculous isn't it. Cropping the main lens to give us grainy hell. Works sometimes for the situation but for me it's more of a miss than a hit
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Then turn off auto lens switching. I haven't had any issues since installing camera assistant.
Excellent app this camera assistant app!!
But , I can't understand why Samsung don't want to insert camera assistant app and expert raw app to the main camera app !!!
Check this out 100x orion belt
gpap2004 said:
Excellent app this camera assistant app!!
But , I can't understand why Samsung don't want to insert camera assistant app and expert raw app to the main camera app !!!
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They are both there.
Camera Assistant is accessible through settings, near the bottom.
Expert Raw is one of the available modes, like Night and Portrait. Scroll the modes until you see More. Tap, and you'll see the additional modes. You can move them to the main screen if you want.
drzeller said:
They are both there.
Camera Assistant is accessible through settings, near the bottom.
Expert Raw is one of the available modes, like Night and Portrait. Scroll the modes until you see More. Tap, and you'll see the additional modes. You can move them to the main screen if you want.
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Ok , but you need to download these first in order to see their menus inside camera app. AND when you try to move Expert raw in main menu camera, you can't because the Expert Raw button becomes grey

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