LG V30 or Huawei P20 Pro - camera is a priority - LG V30 Questions & Answers

My LG G6 broke down and I received a refund. Now I need a new smartphone, and the camera is a priority. The LG G6 camera was weak, very weak, until I uploaded GCam from Cstark. Now it was better, but GCam had a problem with AF and it was slow, so that the pictures of the children were blurred.
However, I loved the wide angle in G6.
Now I am wondering if the LG V30 is a much better camera, so that you can take everyday photos of kids and family on holidays, events, etc. without the installation of GCam (which I would still install for static photos), or look for something else.
The alternative is the Huawei P20 Pro, but this phone is more expensive by about $ 110 and I do not know if it is worth to pay the difference and if it actually has a better camera.
I care about a good automatic mode so that I can quickly pull out the smartphone and take a picture, because the children do not stop for a photo.

Postmanpl said:
My LG G6 broke down and I received a refund. Now I need a new smartphone, and the camera is a priority. The LG G6 camera was weak, very weak, until I uploaded GCam from Cstark. Now it was better, but GCam had a problem with AF and it was slow, so that the pictures of the children were blurred.
However, I loved the wide angle in G6.
Now I am wondering if the LG V30 is a much better camera, so that you can take everyday photos of kids and family on holidays, events, etc. without the installation of GCam (which I would still install for static photos), or look for something else.
The alternative is the Huawei P20 Pro, but this phone is more expensive by about $ 110 and I do not know if it is worth to pay the difference and if it actually has a better camera.
I care about a good automatic mode so that I can quickly pull out the smartphone and take a picture, because the children do not stop for a photo.
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I use stock cameras. Yes, V30 also has wide angle camera.
LG has improved the V30 cameras considerably with Oreo updates.
In so many ways, V30 was what LG G6 should have been.

P20 Pro > G4 > V30 > G6

wakari_mayo said:
P20 Pro > G4 > V30 > G6
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Surely you aren't saying the 2014 LG G4 camera is better than the 2017/2018 LG V30/V30+/V30S?

ChazzMatt said:
Surely you aren't saying the 2014 LG G4 camera is better than the 2017/2018 LG V30/V30+/V30S?
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I have heard the G4 had the best camera LG ever made.
I'm thinking the p20 pro will have the better camera.

Well to put it simple I think both phone have great cameras but the P20 is better. Now the price difference is something to consider the LG V30 is selling for around 400-300 USD while the p20 pro is selling for 600 bucks so your talking about a 200 to 300 dollar difference. If camera is your main focus I would go with a Pixel 2 XL but for the price the LG V30 is more bang for the buck, it has a DAC a headphone jack and pretty good cameras. Now can you put up with the sometimes buggy LG skin and limited updates and rom support?

P20 the v30 has poor selfie big time !

apocrasy said:
P20 the v30 has poor selfie big time !
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That's one of my main gripes about the phone (besides only one speaker at the bottom). Using the Google Camera port makes a considerable difference when it comes to selfies and the rear camera.
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Honestly i have no idea. But most of the people who are voting here have no idea either lol. Better off seeing some video comparison online. Not to mention XDA are infested by Huawei fanboys oddly enough.
I THINK, the p20 pro has the better stock cameras and obviously better front camera. LGs HDR is really underwhelming and personally I take log/raw or gcam shots and edit via snapseed.
The video capability is a bit of a similar story. I rarely use stock video cam though it's not because stock is bad, simply because manual, cine mode and snap movie tend to be far more useful. The quality I think is great and I strongly doubt p20 pro can beat graded V30 footage.
So, take my words with a grain of salt. And again check out some YT video comparisons.

I made some photo comparision. In shop LG V30 has more natural colors, and overall photos from LG looks better to me, but P20 Pro are little sharper? I tested LG V30 with GCam and stock camera. When stock cam - both phones was in auto in pro mode
Full size here : https://imgur.com/a/ei43cEC
I think I'll go with LG V30.
Huawei P20 Pro is not worth the difference in price (140$) . Am I wrong?

ChazzMatt said:
Surely you aren't saying the 2014 LG G4 camera is better than the 2017/2018 LG V30/V30+/V30S?
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Actually, I sent pictures I found online taken with the V30 using stock and GCam and showed it to my friend who owns a G4 and they preferred the G4 and claimed it's better. So I went online looking for a comparison of the G4 to the V30 and found it. I noticed there's a weird "haze" over the pictures taken from the G4. I wish the person who took the pictures would have taken at least some adjusting for the distance difference required to compensate for the wideness or narrowness of either lens.
I think in the post (Mixed Light 1) it demonstrates superior contrast from the V30 when looking at the security guard and the shadows on the floor as well as all the red panels and boxes. The text on the window in the G4 picture is less legible than the V30 too.

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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG G6 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
This camera is amazing. Sometimes the LG camera gets the white point a little off. For example, if you're in a restaurant with a lot of red lamps, it may read as a warmer setting. This is something that can be adjusted manually (and easily fixed in an image editor)
I feel like some of the details are "smoothed" out, but I don't know if that has to do with the camera as much as the app. It's not necessarily bad. If you take micro shots, it's more noticeable, this smoothing effect. It may be a setting in the camera... if you want crisp shots, it's certainly feasible. For example, I was taking up close shots of the fabric of the clothes I am wearing. However, sometimes it is hard to get the camera app to focus on the right thing. It's worse the closer you are to the subject. However it can definitely focus up-close with the non-wide angle camera, though I think a bit less than my Samsung S5 used to be able to do. If you need textures for graphic design work, it's definitely feasible though.
Camera does do some heavy post processing. You can tell when you zoom in.
First Picture is using Stock Camera Auto Mode
2nd Picture is using OpenCamera Camera2 API Auto Mode
3rd Picture is using RAW OpenCamera Camera2 API Auto Mode
I think the wide angle is garbage for landscape shots. Click on photo and zoom in a bit you'll install see what I'm talking about. I love wide angle for closer you shots though. 2nd photo of fire is really just to show why u love the manual settings.
Does anyone use any other camera application to unlock the full potential of this camera? coming from the Galaxy s6 edge, I really liked their camera application and was easy to access the more advanced settings (iso, exposure, ect...) this camera allows that but it makes it very difficult and is overly complicated when those settings are finally available.
brandonpa said:
Does anyone use any other camera application to unlock the full potential of this camera? coming from the Galaxy s6 edge, I really liked their camera application and was easy to access the more advanced settings (iso, exposure, ect...) this camera allows that but it makes it very difficult and is overly complicated when those settings are finally available.
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Using a camera app other than LG's own stock camera app will most likely result in poorer quality images. LG specifically optimizes their app to take advantage of the phone's hardware to the fullest potential.
Thus why if you ever flash a non-stock-based ROM, you will find that your camera is just not as good as before.
brandonpa said:
Does anyone use any other camera application to unlock the full potential of this camera? coming from the Galaxy s6 edge, I really liked their camera application and was easy to access the more advanced settings (iso, exposure, ect...) this camera allows that but it makes it very difficult and is overly complicated when those settings are finally available.
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The manual option gets easier when you figure out how to use it.. You'll be able to get some great pics with it.
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Someone should do some guide with best settings.
There's some guides on YouTube for the V20.. It's the exact same concept
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Thanks, i will check it, its my first LG after years with Samsung.
this one is pretty in-depth..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ82z1E92NU&t=2s
Yeah... other then the stock App. for Camera results in lower quality photos like when i use the Z-Camera App. which is great for Editing but other then that use stock
I really like the camera, feels like an upgrade from G5, but too bad there's no 13mp 16-9 mode
Why is nobody here talking about the front camera? The rear camera has a horrible oversharpening effect and the front camera is plain trash (normal & wide both). What I further do not understand is why the 13MP mode doesn't have a 16:9 or 18:9 ratio. Clicking pictures in 4:3 on this already narrower display is a mediocre experience. With the G6 camera being ported to the G4 already, I do not find a single advantage having the G6 over G4 for still photography (both manual & auto). Why are people being irrational and praising a sub-par camera setup on the G6?
I just got my Indian G6 (64GB & Quad-DAC). I am coming from an LG G4 (H818N) and I haven't been impressed by the cameras. The display on the G6 is better, the design & ergonomics are better, the build quality is exceptional too. But if you have used a G4 or an S7e or an iPhone 7, you will not like the cameras on this one.
For anyone reading this who is out to buy a new device, if you prefer a good smartphone camera you will be let down. Go for a Pixel or S7e or S8/S8+ for better camera performance.
rahulsuneja said:
Why is nobody here talking about the front camera? The rear camera has a horrible oversharpening effect and the front camera is plain trash (normal & wide both). What I further do not understand is why the 13MP mode doesn't have a 16:9 or 18:9 ratio. Clicking pictures in 4:3 on this already narrower display is a mediocre experience. With the G6 camera being ported to the G4 already, I do not find a single advantage having the G6 over G4 for still photography (both manual & auto). Why are people being irrational and praising a sub-par camera setup on the G6?
I just got my Indian G6 (64GB & Quad-DAC). I am coming from an LG G4 (H818N) and I haven't been impressed by the cameras. The display on the G6 is better, the design & ergonomics are better, the build quality is exceptional too. But if you have used a G4 or an S7e or an iPhone 7, you will not like the cameras on this one.
For anyone reading this who is out to buy a new device, if you prefer a good smartphone camera you will be let down. Go for a Pixel or S7e or S8/S8+ for better camera performance.
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I have a Xiaomi Mi5 too. What I did notice for sure is that the Mi5's front camera is way better that the one on the G6. Also, the back one seems better on low light conditions. The one on the G6 seems to "lag" in stand-by mode. On the G6 : the main camera is having exposure and saturation issues, the wide angle one has oversharpening issues. I don't know what everyone are praising about... I sure hope they will fix some issues with the next updates.
I kinda feel sorry I didn't chose the S7 Edge.
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I have a Xiaomi Mi5 too. What I did notice for sure is that the Mi5's front camera is way better that the one on the G6. Also, the back one seems better on low light conditions. The one on the G6 seems to "lag" in stand-by mode. On the G6 : the main camera is having exposure and saturation issues, the wide angle one has oversharpening issues. I don't know what everyone are praising about... I sure hope they will fix some issues with the next updates.
I kinda feel sorry I didn't chose the S7 Edge.
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You are still talking about a recently launched device. The G6 front camera is worse than my good old G2 and S4. I have a Oneplus 3 in my house whose front camera is way better than this S#! T on G6. How I wish we had return policies here in India. Very disappointed. I am done with LG atleast for this life time! ?
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Lukijs said:
I really like the camera, feels like an upgrade from G5, but too bad there's no 13mp 16-9 mode
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Yeah, the full resolution isn't cropped like the 16:9 one.. You can open it in an app and do the cropping yourself.
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Hmm. I'm getting a little confused. I was considering buying the Huawei p10, because I want to use my mobile more, for taking pictures. Then the LG G6 is on a discount, making the G6 almost as cheap as a Huawei p10. And some reviewers says that the G6 camera is better than the P10 also in low light.
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Hmm. I'm getting a little confused. I was considering buying the Huawei p10, because I want to use my mobile more, for taking pictures. Then the LG G6 is on a discount, making the G6 almost as cheap as a Huawei p10. And some reviewers says that the G6 camera is better than the P10 also in low light.
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If you do not care about the front camera, the G6 is probably the best phone for you. But if you do care about the selfies and also want exceptional quality stills, I'd suggest going with the Pixel or Pixel XL.
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I would like to know how to get the best low light pictures using manual settings.

LG V30 i need some info..

Hi to all,
This phone look so good. I have OP5 and i want better phone with better camera. I have some questions:
1. Slow motion - is the same 120fps at 720p or it is 240fps at 1080p?
2. Time Lapse​ - can it record at 4K? At which​ speed? ( x6, x10, x36 etc...)
3. Is there a portrait mode?
4. Point zoom - can it be use in time laps?
I see many videos but i really cant find slow motion and time laps.
And if you can chose between wide angle and telephoto x2 what will you chose?
P. S. Did you think the LG V30 have good zoom that doesn't lost so much details when you zoom x2 or x8?
It's 720p @120fps
Time lapse won't be at 4k for any Android
No portrait mode as no telephoto lense.
I will go with wide angle any day as I am into taking pics that can gather larger data ( field of view) and not much into taking pics of people ( telephoto is basically and better used for this)
Thx a lot for answer. Too bad that V30 (multimedia phone) didn't have 240fps.
I have a new question, did V30 have same hardware front face camera like LG G6? Because G6 have very bad front face camera.
isko01 said:
Thx a lot for answer. Too bad that V30 (multimedia phone) didn't have 240fps.
I have a new question, did V30 have same hardware front face camera like LG G6? Because G6 have very bad front face camera.
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Hi I don't have the phone but trying to get as much information about it as possible, as far as I understand the front camera is exactly the same module as the G6, it's basic, and selfie lovers as well as bloggers are supposed to be using the rear camera instead. For front camera performance the HTC U11 as well as the Nokia 8 phones are recommended.
isko01 said:
Thx a lot for answer. Too bad that V30 (multimedia phone) didn't have 240fps.
I have a new question, did V30 have same hardware front face camera like LG G6? Because G6 have very bad front face camera.
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I don't know if it is the "exact" same camera, but every review I've seen says it inferior to most if not all the other flagship phones (S8, note 8, U11, iPhone and so on).
It a bit of a let down, but I don't really use the front camera, so not a big deal to me.
I don't know it is the exact same camera, but every review I've seen says it inferior to most if not all the other flagship phones (S8, note 8, U11, iPhone and so on).
It a bit of a let down, but I don't really use the front camera, so not a big deal to me.[/QUOTE]
Yes i see that LG V30 have better back camera much more clear and bettwr then Note8.

LG G6 vs Samsung Galaxy S7

Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
g6
I had S7. After one month of baby sitting it it was FULL of scratches on the screen. Never ever saw anything like it before. I know that it was not my fault since i used S2, S5 and OnePlus 3 for years under the same conditions without a single scratch. After that horror experience I switched to G6. Not the slightest scratch in half a year. Some people claim they don't have problems with S7 scratches. Perhaps older batches were indeed Gorilla Glass 4 but the newest ones ... I recommend avoiding by all means. So go for G6.
G6, one of the best phones I've owned.
G6 for :
Design, screen, music and ui
S7 for :
Camera (better but dont have a wide angle), more compact, led notification
I preferred to spend a little more in a g6 because it is more original, we see few people with (I've never met someone with) and because the wide angle sensor is a really nice feature
in any case it's two phones that are worth, they will give me a pleasant user experience, you see according to your budget and the one you like most
Marvomat said:
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
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If you need a good camera go for S7, but only for the auto mode, if you're skilled go for V30 which is better in everything, but if you have a low budget then go for the G6, LGs in manual are above competitors even with bad camera sensor
Killua96 said:
If you need a good camera go for S7, but only for the auto mode, if you're skilled go for V30 which is better in everything, but if you have a low budget then go for the G6, LGs in manual are above competitors even with bad camera sensor
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I don't think it's the sensor but more how their software handles auto modes.
anth0nymDROID said:
I don't think it's the sensor but more how their software handles auto modes.
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No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
Killua96 said:
No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
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Wow I did not know zganks
I miss my GS7. I like the camera, the audio including the built in global equalizer and sound settings. And the themes from the Samsung theme app.
Killua96 said:
No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
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But G6 have great lenses, that generate good pictures from an average sensor.
siggey said:
But G6 have great lenses, that generate good pictures from an average sensor.
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Yep, that's also true, but a good sensor would be better
G6 for Manual S7 for Auto
Marvomat said:
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
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1. If you used to take photos in Auto Mode then it is S7.
2. S7 also takes better photos in Low Light.
3. But S7 doesn't have a good battery life.
4. Plus, it has Amoled screen which is Good.
In Case of G6,
1. Daylight camera shots are better than S7 but in low light it is not good.
2. But if you can use Manual Mode then G6 wins by miles. G6 (and V30)'s manual mode is the Best in class.
3. G6 has slightly better battery life.
4. G6 has HDR10 but complaint screen. If you watch a HDR content then you can find the differences in between HDR and Non HDR content.
5. G6's UI looks bad but smoother than S7's touchwiz. But you may use a Pixel launcher or Nova launcher to avoid that.
Last, You can install Pixel 2 modded camera apk easily on G6 where S7 might cause some issue. In this case, check with Xda forum in detail.
(Note: Both are IP68 certified phone)
I've used both and this is my over all experience.
I wanted to upgrade from the G6 to the Galaxy S9+ but found out that i lost the Verizon Edge plan when I switched from the GS7 to the G6. So i have to pay another $392. That makes me so mad. I waited till March to trade my phone in and now i can't. So it was cheaper for me to buy a refurbished GS7 off of ebay. Funny thing is they're older then the G6 but worth the same amount of money. I like the big screen of the G6 but the camera software of the GS7. Both cameras take muddy pictures. And i can record concerts good with the G7 as i used to have one. But the two concerts i recorded with the G6 the audio is awful sounding. the phone can't handle the bass and it causes the vocals to fade in and out like the limiter is out of sync. I notice with the GS7 i got now that the signal strength is 1-2 bars and when talking on the phone the HD voice sounded kind of muddy and hard to hear because of the weak signal. With the GS7 i don't remember what it the signal strength was but it was loud and clear when i was on the phone. So how does the signal strength and call quality compare to you guys?

Is the G6 still it's money worth? Especially for the camera?

Hello,
i have the oppertunity to buy an LG G6 for 360€ and i want a phone with a good camera. Is the G6 still its money worth? Or should i buy another phone, like a S7 or something?
G6 is still the best choice. I also just got it 3 weeks ago for 380€.
The cameras on the G6 are average, at best. I wouldn't recommend the S7 instead though, overall the G6 would be better.
Average? lol
my new g6 will arrive monday, if all goes well. i narrowed my choices to the g6, the s8, the mi mix 2 and the oneplus 5t. i chose the g6 because it's the cheapest, the smallest (i don't care for the curved display of the s8 a bit). for me the only thing against it is that it has the 2016 snapdragon, but i figured it will still be ok with my usage. otherwise the g6 seems on par (and in some respects better) than the other choices.
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Average? lol
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Yeah, that's right, G6 uses a IMX258 sensor which is REALLY awful for a flagship device.
If you're good and you plan using the Manual mode then go for G6, with Manual (thanks to the good lg software for camera) it takes beautiful photos, but if you plan to use the Auto Mode more go for something else.
Camera is trash.
Other features is decent.
Design is good (optional).
Software is stabile.
And why is it in your opinion trash?
Camera is decent with very natural colors. If you want more eye catchy processed pictures, then you have Google HDR+ camera port.
the camera is average. i would give it a 6. maybe 7 if you play with with manual mode. but front facing camera is totally horrible. a 3 at best.
The camera is excellent. Though that's only if you're using the GCam port. The LG app photo quality is just....bad.
My gf have s7 and she love my g6 camera so idk what you all talkb about s7 camera sucks
My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
Cant take photos lul
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My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
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G6 has a sensor of low budget phone, here is the list with other phones that use it: https://www.kimovil.com/en/list-smartphones-by-lens-model/sony-imx258
I'll repeat myself, if you're able to use manual mode at it's best then G6 can take beautiful photos if compared to any other flagship (beside in low light conditions and for the Front Camera), but in auto it sucks, and when i say "sucks" i compare it to other flagship devices, it does not take horrible photos like a 100 euros phone, but they're not as good as the photos taken with other flagship or in manual.
Don't believe it? I don't care, i just wanted to give you an answer based on my experience on almost 12 months with the G6, and after 10 months with G5, which, in Auto Mode, is still better.
And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera, the Auto Mode is always a compromise.
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And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera.
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Yes, and G5 is still better imho, obviously i'm always talking about auto mode, in manual it's a completely different story since the camera app on G6 is better than the one found on G5.
Take in count that the other flagships has also modded version of stock camera/porting, or other camera apps that improve considerably the performance of it.
As i said before the problem of G6 is that you start from a way worse sensor than competitors, that's it, you can do a lot trough software, but the hardware is still limited.
Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
Many cameras are looking supersaturated and thats not a sign for a good camera. Bud sadly many people like this unrealistic look.
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Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
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Probably because HTC's software is worse than the one found on LGs, better hardware doesn't necessary means better performance, power is nothing without control.
The most debatable thing is the Camera on G6. Just get the Gcam port and you'll never regret purchasing this device (Except the slow updates ). Its cheaper than Op5t and offers amazing screen and build quality over it. The Hi-Fi dac is fun to. And it's Ip68 water and dust resistant so it will handle Water dip easily . But if you prefer Latest hardware and high specs Op5t is the option. Although Lg G6 can handle all task easily too.

LG V30 Camera vs LG G6 Camera

Is It Just me and/or my phone or is is fact that the G6 Takes way better pictures and seems to focus a LOT quicker, especially on close up pics.
I have owned a few of, them, plis my mother an ]d father also own the G6 and comard to the V30 Camera it's a LOT quicker to focus and lesss blur etc.
For example, OIf I tool 100 pictures with my od G6, without any effort whatsocer, I can guarantee you that at least 95 of the 100 pictures taken with the G6 would be perfect, where as If i took 100 pictures with the V30 probably 40 out of 100 pictures MIGHT JUST about come ut clear.
Yup, I knoqw the difference because I've owned 5-6 LG G6 models of the last couple of year
Only reason I bought the V30 was of a slightly bigger screen and fancied trying something else.
Anyone else here ever come to the V30 having previously owned the G6?
What are your opinions?
It could be your phone hardware: My first V30 (H932) developed problems with the wide angle lens, where all pics were more or less blurry. My wife had exactly the same phone and we couldn't reproduce the problem on hers. LG replaced it under warranty.
But from your description it sounds more hit or miss, so maybe more likely a software issue.
I have no experience with G6, so cannot compare.

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