Can anyone confirm that it's not just me? M5 8.4 inch UK model (normally using Nova launcher) set display view mode to small (in order for some apps to see this as a tablet not phone) and on rotation to landscape the navigation bar/buttons disappear.
(Leaving on default and the navbar stays at the side on rotation - though I'd prefer it on the bottom.)
Using developer options to set dpi to 680 makes the navbar appear but with only the home button showing.
Huawei support suggest a factory reset, which I've already done to enforce the DRM change in the recent update, so doubt it would make any difference.
Surely is not just my tablet?
Armpowered said:
Can anyone confirm that it's not just me? M5 8.4 inch UK model (normally using Nova launcher) set display view mode to small (in order for some apps to see this as a tablet not phone) and on rotation to landscape the navigation bar/buttons disappear.
(Leaving on default and the navbar stays at the side on rotation - though I'd prefer it on the bottom.)
Using developer options to set dpi to 680 makes the navbar appear but with only the home button showing.
Huawei support suggest a factory reset, which I've already done to enforce the DRM change in the recent update, so doubt it would make any difference.
Surely is not just my tablet?
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me too, the support told me to wait a future update...
I had what sounds like a somewhat similar issue using Nova Launcher and the 10 inch model. In landscape mode the nova dock would stay vertical on the right side instead of moving to the bottom, even if the screen orientation was set to auto-rotate in the nova settings / look and feel.
It was fixed by simply changing the View Mode setting to small in Settings / Display. Didn't have to mess with DPI manually or anything. With the View Mode to small I don't have any problems with the dock or the navigation bar.
skarce said:
me too, the support told me to wait a future update...
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Thanks, it's good to know that it's a general issue with the tablet.
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In landscape mode the nova dock would stay vertical on the right side instead of moving to the bottom, even if the screen orientation was set to auto-rotate in the nova settings / look and feel.
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This is probably just a side effect of the default DPI value, Nova treats the tablet as a phone, where it's normal to have the navbar on the side when in landscape. Switching display mode moves to a more compact DPI setting. Good to know that the navbar works, it suggests it's just an issue with the 8.4 that should get fixed.
For those annoyed by this, just wanted to mention that Ultimate Dynamic Navbar works, at least partially, if you are rooted (maybe even if you aren't). It's a navbar replacement that is fully customizable, fully collapsible, and will rotate with the device.
For me, I can't map home/recents/back functions to the softkeys - but a.) I haven't experimented, b.) the UDN softkeys can still be used to launch custom apps and for various other functions like switching to the "previous app," c.) the UDN navbar can be used in conjunction with your existing navbar setup, and d.) it's a lightweight app that is fully collapsible, so you have little to lose by installing it.
Known issue
This youtuber describes this exact issue amongst other issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qef...b3uy2lez3h4b2rhtpst1w03c010c.1526416319255488
Now fixed (at least partly) with firmware 8.0.0.151. When display size is set to small, the nav bar now stays visible on the short side, though I'd prefer it on the long side. Not a complete fix, in that when changing DPI in developer settings, it just shows the single home button on the long side.
The device offers you the option to use the fingerprint button for navigation. You can find the option at system settings / navigation
I actually like the stock launcher/UI, it is amazingly clean and while I miss several key Nova Launcher capabilities I am trying to stick with it for natural theme options, etc. Clearly the launcher was designed for gesture navigation, something I have always found quite repulsive even with nicely done variations we have seen over the years. The typical Samsung style three icon onscreen navigation icons work 'fairly well', but they are buggy. (I wish I could swap the outside buttons around, but...)
In games, they do what they are supposed to do - slip away entirely unless you brush them back up with a minor swipe. The problem is that they don't go away in most apps otherwise - which they kinda should. Even if they simply barged their way onto the screen transparently, it wouldn't be so bad (although they are an ignorant shove to any other existing lower control mechanism). In some apps they may even be necessary, although I thought it was sorted out a long time ago that if they weren't onscreen, there would be a generalized triple dot alternative in the upper right of whatever you were doing.
The biggest problem of them all is that regardless of theme, battery dark settings, or any options to do with navigation or the home screen, this navigation bar is sometimes not only glaringly white against an otherwise well sorted out 'dark theme', there are many apps I load up where they aren't just white - the icons themselves turn perfectly white as well.
On any other device I have owned in recent times (and let's assume they were all on custom roms), even if you had actual hardware touch buttons (like my last daily, a 1st gen OPO) you could always enable onscreen navigation buttons. They would slip away by themselves in nearly any app or game you could possibly run.
Opera is a perfect example of every problem I have listed at its worst - they barge in, they are blindingly white, and the icons are white as well. Opera already has a rather beefy UI bar on the bottom, so this ends up quite broken. Will Nova Launcher solve these issues for me? Are we at a point where we can even use Nova Launcher without several nasty traps snapping shut when it comes to recent apps, orientation, etc?
As I said, with the app drawer enabled I like the stock launcher. I just want navigation buttons that behave. Am I missing anything or is the implementation of this kinda broken even though the protocols for this have been sorted out several generations of Android ago?
Is anyone else having trouble using gestures with third party launchers? For me, they work just fine and then after some time it reverts to buttons and I get the message "System navigation updated. To make changes, go to settings".
Searching around, it seems like people on other phones don't have this problem anymore.
On a different note, I started using fluid navigation gestures (FNG) and I preferred that since I could add more gestures. Problem is if I'm plugged into the dual screen case and I turn off the dual screen - either by turning the screen behind the phone or manually turning it off - and use the notification shade, then the buttons come back and hide and FNG is disabled until I start using the dual screen again.
Anyone have any solutions?
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Is anyone else having trouble using gestures with third party launchers? For me, they work just fine and then after some time it reverts to buttons and I get the message "System navigation updated. To make changes, go to settings".
Searching around, it seems like people on other phones don't have this problem anymore.
On a different note, I started using fluid navigation gestures (FNG) and I preferred that since I could add more gestures. Problem is if I'm plugged into the dual screen case and I turn off the dual screen - either by turning the screen behind the phone or manually turning it off - and use the notification shade, then the buttons come back and hide and FNG is disabled until I start using the dual screen again.
Anyone have any solutions?
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Same annoying issue! I think it happens every time Nova gets restarted but not sure on that. I've searched for a resolution too and can't find one. I tried creating a tasker profile to make it easier to switch back to gestures via a quick setting but it doesn't work. The secure setting to change is navigation_mode value of 2.
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Is anyone else having trouble using gestures with third party launchers? For me, they work just fine and then after some time it reverts to buttons and I get the message "System navigation updated. To make changes, go to settings".
Searching around, it seems like people on other phones don't have this problem anymore.
On a different note, I started using fluid navigation gestures (FNG) and I preferred that since I could add more gestures. Problem is if I'm plugged into the dual screen case and I turn off the dual screen - either by turning the screen behind the phone or manually turning it off - and use the notification shade, then the buttons come back and hide and FNG is disabled until I start using the dual screen again.
Anyone have any solutions?
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Nova shows you an explanation right on the settings page of the problem. Google has not made gestures 100% compatible with 3rd party launchers and there is nothing devs can do until Google gives them what they need
Yes, I've seen that message. I've also seen that Google delivered this ability in December of last year and that some users have this working fine. It's different from when it would gray out the option to use the gestures. This one feels like LGs software is the one resetting the gestures since the notification is titled System UI.
I'd be fine with any solid gesture solution as I'm not mated to the built in gestures, but it seems like others break due to the dual screen. Meanwhile the built in ones fail. I could of course change back to gestures every time this happens, but it feels like I'm using a beta device in this regard.
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Yes, I've seen that message. I've also seen that Google delivered this ability in December of last year and that some users have this working fine. It's different from when it would gray out the option to use the gestures. This one feels like LGs software is the one resetting the gestures since the notification is titled System UI.
I'd be fine with any solid gesture solution as I'm not mated to the built in gestures, but it seems like others break due to the dual screen. Meanwhile the built in ones fail. I could of course change back to gestures every time this happens, but it feels like I'm using a beta device in this regard.
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I don't think it's LG. My wife has the same issue on her Note10, and I have it in both my V60 and my OnePlus 6t all using Nova. Maybe another launcher has implemented the fix?
So far for me Action Launcher seems to be working ok with gestures, even after a reboot. I prefer Nova but this is close.
edit: Dual screen causes the navigation to revert back
Is frustrating that every time I made a swipe from the bottom of the screen, there will be an involuntary touch to the app I'm using or with the keyboard space bar/letters.
A small workaround is to use the bottom gesture bar, but other phones this will not be an issue.
It seems to be a normal behaviour from a certain version of OneUI but no one seem to care about it.
Coming from an old OnePlus 5T, I've noticed it from day one on my S21+.
I'm missing something or what?
I'm the only one facing this issue?
Go to Settings > Display > Navigation Bar. Here try to activate Gesture hints; then open more options in "Swipe gestures" and increase Gesture sensibility.
I also found usefull to download "Good Lock" from the Galaxy store. There in Home Up> Task Changer I activated "Allow bottom gestures in full screen mode"; this was the thing that gave me the most headache.
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I activated "Allow bottom gestures in full screen mode"; this was the thing that gave me the most headache.
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Yes, it seems to help a bit within apps interface but not with keyboard.
Today I've tested my old OP5T and there is a different approach with gesture.
Swiping from bottom is really fluid and no there are no issues with keyboard.
I will try to make a video comparison, because this is the only major issue I've found with this device.
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Yes, it seems to help a bit within apps interface but not with keyboard.
Today I've tested my old OP5T and there is a different approach with gesture.
Swiping from bottom is really fluid and no there are no issues with keyboard.
I will try to make a video comparison, because this is the only major issue I've found with this device.
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Sorry since I don't have problems with the keyboard I have just realized your problem. To solve it go in Setting > General management >Keyboard list and default: here just switch on "keyboard button on navigation bar" and "Show button hide keyboard". By activating these two options your keyboard is going to be moved up a bit so you can avoid miss press (if you use Samsung keyboard you can also just press the three dots then keyboard size and move the keyboard up).
I'm sure some of you have experienced the Recent Apps button (3 button navigation) not working with 3rd party launchers (Nova, Microsoft, etc). The only fix I have been able to find is to switch the default launcher to the Pixel Launcher, and then back to your 3rd party launcher of choice.
Luckily, I have been able to replicate this problem consistently. While using a 3rd party launcher (Nova launcher in my case), open any app (and only one) and press the Recent Apps button 3 times quickly. The Recent Apps button should stop working. It does not break when there are no recent apps or when there are 2 or more.
Hopefully, this information might be helpful to minds smarter than my own.
If anyone else is experiencing this or is able to replicate the issue as well, I'd like to hear what your setup and experience with the issue is.
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I've been using Nova on my P6 since I got it, until 2-3 days ago anyway when I decided to try Gesture Navigation instead.
I've never had the issue you're showing, not a single time. What I DID encounter a few times is that instead of the proper Recents overview when tapping on Recents I'd only see a weird view of my homescreen, like when you longpress anywhere on the homescreen, except that it was ONLY the homescreen and no settings/wallpaper or other options. That happened randomly and was hard to reproduce, but I've never seen the issue you're showing in the video
Did you import/restore any apps/settings, esp. for Nova, when you set up the phone? That seems to cause a lot of issues when coming from a non-Pixel device. I hard a weird glitch were the display would briefly light up every 10-20 minutes when the phone was just sitting there untouched, a factory reset and fresh install of all apps fixed it.
Maybe try that too?
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I've been using Nova on my P6 since I got it, until 2-3 days ago anyway when I decided to try Gesture Navigation instead.
I've never had the issue you're showing, not a single time. What I DID encounter a few times is that instead of the proper Recents overview when tapping on Recents I'd only see a weird view of my homescreen, like when you longpress anywhere on the homescreen, except that it was ONLY the homescreen and no settings/wallpaper or other options. That happened randomly and was hard to reproduce, but I've never seen the issue you're showing in the video
Did you import/restore any apps/settings, esp. for Nova, when you set up the phone? That seems to cause a lot of issues when coming from a non-Pixel device. I hard a weird glitch were the display would briefly light up every 10-20 minutes when the phone was just sitting there untouched, a factory reset and fresh install of all apps fixed it.
Maybe try that too?
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This is a fresh install of Nova. I Imported all my apps from my Galaxy S10+, so I'll try that and report back with results.
Other than that, what do you think of the gesture navigation? I pretty much wrote it off as soon as I got the phone.
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This is a fresh install of Nova. I Imported all my apps from my Galaxy S10+, so I'll try that and report back with results.
Other than that, what do you think of the gesture navigation? I pretty much wrote it off as soon as I got the phone.
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I've never been a fan of it, never used it before and still don't like it. The only reason I'm trying it again is because I'm still not rooted and simply can't stand looking at that ugly white navbar (yea yea, I know I'm weird ). It works I guess, but getting to Recents for example is a hit & miss with gestures, navbar is much more reliable for me.
Whatever your issue is I hope you get it sorted
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I'm sure some of you have experienced the Recent Apps button (3 button navigation) not working with 3rd party launchers (Nova, Microsoft, etc). The only fix I have been able to find is to switch the default launcher to the Pixel Launcher, and then back to your 3rd party launcher of choice.
Luckily, I have been able to replicate this problem consistently. While using a 3rd party launcher (Nova launcher in my case), open any app (and only one) and press the Recent Apps button 3 times quickly. The Recent Apps button should stop working. It does not break when there are no recent apps or when there are 2 or more.
Hopefully, this information might be helpful to minds smarter than my own.
If anyone else is experiencing this or is able to replicate the issue as well, I'd like to hear what your setup and experience with the issue is.
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I can replicate this on my P6 also, 3 taps and recents is broken. I have to change launchers or power cycle (reset) to get it working again. I originally imported settings and apps from an LG V35 10 days ago.
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I can replicate this on my P6 also, 3 taps and recents is broken. I have to change launchers or power cycle (reset) to get it working again. I originally imported settings and apps from an LG V35 10 days ago.
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Interesting. What launcher are you using?
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Interesting. What launcher are you using?
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Nova.
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Nova.
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FIX!!!!!!
Settings > System > Developer Options > Animator duration scale
Turn to 'Animation off'
The Window animation scale and Transition animation scale has no effect on this.
After changing this, I have not been able to replicate this issue.
My best guess is that the recent apps button is pressed while the animation is still going, and the phone has the electronic equivalent of a mild stroke.
Can anyone else confirm that this corrects the issue? I haven't seen a solution like this on any of the many threads about this.
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FIX!!!!!!
Settings > System > Developer Options > Animator duration scale
Turn to 'Animation off'
The Window animation scale and Transition animation scale has no effect on this.
After changing this, I have not been able to replicate this issue.
My best guess is that the recent apps button is pressed while the animation is still going, and the phone has the electronic equivalent of a mild stroke.
Can anyone else confirm that this corrects the issue? I haven't seen a solution like this on any of the many threads about this.
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Turning animation off prevents the 'recents' button failure, but I wouldn't call it a fix since then animations won't work. Personally I will keep animations set to .5 and try not to press 'recents' too many times. The lack of animations gives the Nova UI a flat and amatuerish look.
This is a Nova bug, probably due to Android 12 incompatability, since it doesn't happen with the Pixel launcher. I guess we can hope that they correct it eventually.
Thanks for identifying the cause, I had this happen multiple times before I read your post and didn't have any idea what was causing it.
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Turning animation off prevents the 'recents' button failure, but I wouldn't call it a fix since then animations won't work. Personally I will keep animations set to .5 and try not to press 'recents' too many times. The lack of animations gives the Nova UI a flat and amatuerish look.
This is a Nova bug, probably due to Android 12 incompatability, since it doesn't happen with the Pixel launcher. I guess we can hope that they correct it eventually.
Thanks for identifying the cause, I had this happen multiple times before I read your post and didn't have any idea what was causing it.
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I have some shaky hands so I end up pressing the button a few times fairly often.
I think the issue is with Pixel Launcher. I have confirmed that this issue happens in other launchers as well (Microsoft Launcher). I also found that killing the Pixel Launcher fixes it too.
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I've been using Nova on my P6 since I got it, until 2-3 days ago anyway when I decided to try Gesture Navigation instead.
I've never had the issue you're showing, not a single time. What I DID encounter a few times is that instead of the proper Recents overview when tapping on Recents I'd only see a weird view of my homescreen, like when you longpress anywhere on the homescreen, except that it was ONLY the homescreen and no settings/wallpaper or other options. That happened randomly and was hard to reproduce, but I've never seen the issue you're showing in the video
Did you import/restore any apps/settings, esp. for Nova, when you set up the phone? That seems to cause a lot of issues when coming from a non-Pixel device. I hard a weird glitch were the display would briefly light up every 10-20 minutes when the phone was just sitting there untouched, a factory reset and fresh install of all apps fixed it.
Maybe try that too?
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This. I have this problem where the recent apps don't show, and instead I just get a zoomed out version of my homescreen. This happens CONSTANTLY and is the most annoying thing about this phone. It happened to me on the stock launcher as well as on Nova.
Anyone know of a fix for that?
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This. I have this problem where the recent apps don't show, and instead I just get a zoomed out version of my homescreen. This happens CONSTANTLY and is the most annoying thing about this phone. It happened to me on the stock launcher as well as on Nova.
Anyone know of a fix for that?
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Did you activate developer options and tick don't keep activities near the bottom of the options, perhaps by mistake?
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Did you activate developer options and tick don't keep activities near the bottom of the options, perhaps by mistake?
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I did tick that, because I couldn't open my recents menu to close apps. I just unticked that option, and still have the same issue happen when I hit the recents button.
It zooms out to a smaller version of my homescreen, and if I swipe up it will close the most recent app, then show the rest of the open apps, if I just swiped to the right to go to another open app, the smaller homescreen slides to the right off my screen but it doesn't show the other running apps. It's almost as if it's having an issue drawing the image of the open apps.
Diablo2424 said:
This. I have this problem where the recent apps don't show, and instead I just get a zoomed out version of my homescreen. This happens CONSTANTLY and is the most annoying thing about this phone. It happened to me on the stock launcher as well as on Nova.
Anyone know of a fix for that?
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Not sure I'd call it a "fix" but since I switched to Gesture Navigation instead of using the navbar it hasn't happened once. Maybe the P6/A12 does something odd with the Recents button that needs to get fixed through an update, no idea.
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Not sure I'd call it a "fix" but since I switched to Gesture Navigation instead of using the navbar it hasn't happened once. Maybe the P6/A12 does something odd with the Recents button that needs to get fixed through an update, no idea.
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I thought that would fix it as well, so I switched to navbar (which I prefer anyway) and it is happening there too . A12 is just so buggy, it's annoying, I hate that companies use the public as their beta testers nowadays
Just noticed it today had it since launch day. Only change was the fingerprint reader update I did yesterday.
sdbe said:
I can replicate this on my P6 also, 3 taps and recents is broken. I have to change launchers or power cycle (reset) to get it working again. I originally imported settings and apps from an LG V35 10 days ago.
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I'm coming from an LGV30, running Nova. I was planning to just import settings and apps to my P6Pro when it arrives. Did that ultimately work for you, or did you end up doing a fresh install of all your apps, including Nova?
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I'm coming from an LGV30, running Nova. I was planning to just import settings and apps to my P6Pro when it arrives. Did that ultimately work for you, or did you end up doing a fresh install of all your apps, including Nova?
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Actually it worked very well, I was surprised. I used cable method that google recommended with the usb-c cable that came with the phone.
I have done LG to LG imports and Samsung to Samsung but never tried LG to Pixel.
I still had to do a lot of setup steps like passwords, set the home screen to Nova and handle the widgets. Be sure to go the play store and do an 'update all'. But it was much easier and quicker than doing a clean install. I figured I could always do that later if I suspected something was not working.
There are issues with the phone and Android 12 but so far I don't think any of them have to do with the install (of course I could be wrong).
Great! Thanks for the info.
Chiming in with a stock unrooted Pixel 5 using Nova Launcher. My Recents also becomes randomly unresponsive, and I am able to reproduce it using the method in the first post (press three times rapidly). I also get the weird zoomed out blank menu as others have mentioned fairly regularly.