If you had to switch from Mate 20 Pro? - Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi all,
Let's say you could switch from a Mate 20 Pro to any other device, which would it be and why?
Many thanks in advance

It's hard to say goodbye to batterylife, chargingspeed and camera combo for me. But if had to choose, it would be a Galaxy Note 9 for me. This because of the great display and 4000mah battery.
I had the note 8 and therefor the S8 plus and wasn't totally dissatisfied with them

I too, would switch to a Samsung Galaxy Note series smartphone because of DEX. Samsung DEX is by far way ahead of Huawei's EMUI 9 dektop mode.

Back to my huawei mate 10 pro....
Much better camera quality so far......

lllnutslll said:
Hi all,
Let's say you could switch from a Mate 20 Pro to any other device, which would it be and why?
Many thanks in advance
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I currently have a Mate 20 Pro and a Pixel 3 XL, I'm deciding what one to keep.
The Mate 20 pro has many things going for it, a few major gripes for me that are pushing me back to the Pixel
- Camera - Still shots of scenary etc are great, when it comes to people it's quite bad especially with portrait. Skin tones are always off, I have turned off beauty etc as much as you can.
- Fingerprint scanner - This is good when it works, I need it for various password, banking and other apps. It can be infuriating and definitely has some improvement technology wise. In contrast, the plain old pixel 3XL fingerprint scanner works every time. Face unlock is great though ;o)
- Screen - I have a green tint on the edges as described many many times on the forum, mine is a BOE screen so it's not the LG issue. It's more the curvature of the glass as when I tilt at angles it goes away.
Battery life is better then the PIxel Xl 3 but not much once fully optimised on the Pixel.
The mate is still an amazing, the Pixel 3XL is boring but just sort of works all the time. I also don't have to deal with silly duplicate applications and constantly removing permissions every time an app is updated.
A Pixel on Mate 20 Pro hardware with improved fingerprint and screen would quite frankly destroy anything IMO

sw1000 said:
I currently have a Mate 20 Pro and a Pixel 3 XL, I'm deciding what one to keep.
The Mate 20 pro has many things going for it, a few major gripes for me that are pushing me back to the Pixel
- Camera - Still shots of scenary etc are great, when it comes to people it's quite bad especially with portrait. Skin tones are always off, I have turned off beauty etc as much as you can.
- Fingerprint scanner - This is good when it works, I need it for various password, banking and other apps. It can be infuriating and definitely has some improvement technology wise. In contrast, the plain old pixel 3XL fingerprint scanner works every time. Face unlock is great though ;o)
- Screen - I have a green tint on the edges as described many many times on the forum, mine is a BOE screen so it's not the LG issue. It's more the curvature of the glass as when I tilt at angles it goes away.
Battery life is better then the PIxel Xl 3 but not much once fully optimised on the Pixel.
The mate is still an amazing, the Pixel 3XL is boring but just sort of works all the time. I also don't have to deal with silly duplicate applications and constantly removing permissions every time an app is updated.
A Pixel on Mate 20 Pro hardware with improved fingerprint and screen would quite frankly destroy anything IMO
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I was in the same place as you. I agree, landscapes are good. Human subjects are hit n miss and if they move the motion blur is a disappointment. I'm back on the pixel 2 xl, but have the itch for somthing new... but what!?

That's a tricky one.
I switch between Android and iOS every 2-3 years and came to the M20P from an iPhone X. If I hadn't switched I would probably have gotten the iPhone XS Max.
I've never really liked Samsung but quite like the look of One UI so, if you asked in a month or so maybe I'd say one of the Galaxy S10 variants.

I came from the note 9 and like the mate much much better than that. I'm putting my note 9 512gb up for sale

Honor View 20 just ordered. Headphone jack!!

The View 20 does look nice but I just couldn't get on with a rear fingerprint scanner.

Grondah said:
The View 20 does look nice but I just couldn't get on with a rear fingerprint scanner.
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face unlock on v20. never need to touch a fingerprint sensor unless you use android pay

mwatson said:
face unlock on v20. never need to touch a fingerprint sensor unless you use android pay
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The under display fingerprint sensor is superb on the Mate 20 Pro as multiple fingers IDs can be recorded. The Mate 20 Pro has a triple security mechanism being 1) Face ID 2) Finger print ID and 3) numerical passcode.
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mwatson said:
Honor View 20 just ordered. Headphone jack!!
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The Mate 20 Pro comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter.

something rootable

Having a front-mounted fingerprint reader is just good when the phone is on a table, saves having to pick it up to unlock.

Grondah said:
Having a front-mounted fingerprint reader is just good when the phone is on a table, saves having to pick it up to unlock.
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Totally agree. I use my point finger to unlock when the Mate 20 Pro is on the table and use my thumb when the device is in my hand hence the innovative ability to use multiple fingerprint IDs.

Exhile said:
The under display fingerprint sensor is superb on the Mate 20 Pro as multiple fingers IDs can be recorded. The Mate 20 Pro has a triple security mechanism being 1) Face ID 2) Finger print ID and 3) numerical passcode.
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The Mate 20 Pro comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter.
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can you charge the phone while 3.5mm plugged into the adaptor?
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Exhile said:
Totally agree. I use my point finger to unlock when the Mate 20 Pro is on the table and use my thumb when the device is in my hand hence the innovative ability to use multiple fingerprint IDs.
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the face unlock camera is on the front too

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can you charge the phone while 3.5mm plugged into the adaptor?
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I am unable to charge the smartphone while the USB-C to 3.5mm adapter is plugged in unless I use wireless charging.
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can you charge the phone while 3.5mm plugged into the adaptor?
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the face unlock camera is on the front too
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Yes, the face unlock camera is on the front but the Mate 20 Pro's face recognition camera is not as good as Apple's on the XS, XS Max or XR.

I'm switching back to apple when they release the new iphone... After 2 huawei phones, android just disappoints me. Not getting notifications which needs constant restarting, the fingerprint scanner barely works, the green screen bleed is annoying, the promised 3D object scanning is still not working properly, Bluetooth audio peripherals disconnects or plays no sounds and requires a phone reboot to start working again, wireless charging is cluncky, the phone needs to be very precise with the charger or it won't work. All in all its a frustrating experience when you just want things to work...
Of course there are some nice things like the battery life or super charging... But i think ill live without these things...

auridas330 said:
I'm switching back to apple when they release the new iphone... After 2 huawei phones, android just disappoints me. Not getting notifications which needs constant restarting, the fingerprint scanner barely works, the green screen bleed is annoying, the promised 3D object scanning is still not working properly, Bluetooth audio peripherals disconnects or plays no sounds and requires a phone reboot to start working again, wireless charging is cluncky, the phone needs to be very precise with the charger or it won't work. All in all its a frustrating experience when you just want things to work...
Of course there are some nice things like the battery life or super charging... But i think ill live without these things...
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Please don't judge Android purely on Huawei phones. A pixel is a very different experience. Everything " just works" like an iPhone, but with the freedom of Android.

mike2518 said:
I came from the note 9 and like the mate much much better than that. I'm putting my note 9 512gb up for sale
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Can I please ask which advantages does the Mate 20 Pro have over the Note 9 according to you?

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Buy recommendation please :)

Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. Display is definitely bright enough, not sure where you read/heard that but it's great on sunny days.
2. I've never experienced it changing brightness when opening any apps.
3. Auto brightness turns itself on when the phone is rebooted not when the screen is locked.
4. The only intensive game I have on my phone is asphalt 9 and I can play it for well over a hour with minimal heat, it gets warmish but nothing out of the ordinary.
I'd definitely recommend this phone over any other
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. This phone has best screen on direct sunlight, i can see everything with my sunglasses
2. never noticed changhing brightness
3. no idea
4. it never goes even close to hot, had shanpdragon and iphone that almost melted when having gps on, but not mate 10 pro
Thank you guys
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
Don't know if every one got it or just a few. It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
Bomber293 said:
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Bomber293 said:
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
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Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
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It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
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Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
Bomber293 said:
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
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I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Good to hear I'll defenetly see one in electronic shop and probably buy it
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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My Mate 10 Pro has 0 problem
Sent from my BLA-L29 using Tapatalk
Im bored atm so i scrolled a bit and copied multiple statments from other mate 10/pro (idk) users in this forum
*One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
*yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
*I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?
*I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.
To summ it all up: There are many ppl with problems like clouding, brighter on left/right side and i somewhere read that a guy got a greenish matrix over his display. But there are also alot saying that theirs works fine and when you buy a phone and everything is fine most ppl dont open up a forum to say that it is fine but when there is a problem they all do it....
This awnser is not really for you two guys but for the ppl who maybe visit this thread and want to know whats up.
I'll get to a store next days and see if they got one there if it is fine i'll buy it and if i still remember or if it is broke you'll see me agian here
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
fefofefosa said:
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
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No issues for me with the same variant. Had the phone for almost a year. HDR with you tube does impact it, and moving from a light to dark environment will change as it should. This phone handles auto brightness much better than my Galaxy 8 + does.
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd)
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Bomber... I bought a brand new one on swappa recently and it remains as brand new. I want to root it and do advanced things, but it is not as easy as I thought. I will probably sell mine in the next day or 2. Pm me if you are interested. I live in Florida and have good ebay and swappa ratings. The phone is in mint condition with all original accessories, box, and plastic covers.
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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cfds said:
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
Yes, you will reach a point - have reached a point you don't know any more what to believe or think...Don't forget that you will only find negative feedback on the net. People in general don't post how happy they are with a phone, no they will post rather how dissatisfied they are.
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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True. I'll probably buy the mate 10 pro becasue idk it just feels better to me. With the upcoming updates to emui 8.2 and android pie it should be near perfect. Sure it got problems with custom roms twrp aso. but if i want to do it i'll find a way
The only way i wont take it is when the OP6 drops to 400 too
I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
Im using mate 10 not pro. Only have problems on my screen at bottom have yellowish tint. Already send to huawei and change the lcd two times, still the same. I guess i must live with it. To be honest, this is the best phone i have ever used. Very snappy, top notch camera, proc not have overheat issue when playing heavy games unlike my sd821 before.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
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I meant the 845 as it is the latest available Snapdragon chip in phones like the OnePlus 6 etc. My point is that the chip although not the most powerful is still plenty fast enough for most people's needs and it comfortably handles pretty much anything you throw at it. The camera in my opinion is good - when I take a photo the results to me look very good. Am I a professional photographer? No, if I was I'd have a DSLR.
As an overall package, including price, I believe that this phone is one of the best you can get right now. Of course, this will change, and if OnePlus release the 6t with stereo speakers and a 3800-4000 mah battery, I may well get that.

Is this the best smartphone of 2018 in your opinion?

Hey guys, so I've been really overthinking all day if I should get the Mate 20 Pro. The 3 main phones I've been using this year are S9+, OP6, Note 9 but I won't count the S9+ as the Note 9 is exactly the same but with bigger battery, bigger screen and the spen (it's cool the first week and then I forget about it, but I do get others use it on a daily basis so there's no competition for the note) . So both the Note 9 and OP6 have things that I've personally missed from the other device, however, at least on paper, the Mate 20 Pro seems to have it almost all.
What I missed about Samsung while owned OP6:
*Better OLED screen colors, higher resolution and brightness
*Stereo speakers
*Wireless charging
*IP68 peace of mind
*Higher volume with BT earbuds (don't know if 20 Pro has this)
*Not really missed but wanted the 4000+ mah battery on Note 9
*Always on display
*Samsung pay with MST (but no big deal since still have my Gear S3 frontier watch)
*One-handed mode
What I miss about OP6 currently on Note 9:
*Really fast/fluid/smooth UI (although I've heard some reviewers complaining about the 20 Pro dropping frames but at least should be better than lagsung)
*Native gestures navigation
*Actually FAST Cable charging
*Lighter and smaller body (pocketability and one hand use)
*Fast unlock, either fingerprint or face/iris are slow on Note 9
*OP6 didn't drain too much battery on idle, on days that I almost don't use the phone Note 9 4000 mah battery performs very similar to 3300 mah battery on OP6
Better than both previous phones/new to me features really looking forward to try:
*3D fast and secure face unlock
*In-display fingerprint sensor
*Raise to wake
*Knuckle gestures to start multitasking, take screenshots, launch apps, etc.
*Triple camera, amazing low light performance
What I think I'd miss if I switch to Mate 20 Pro:
*Slightly wider and notchless screen on Note 9, maybe better colors and brighness?
*BT audio? No dolby atmos, lower volume?
*Stereo speakers are worse than note 9 according to reviewers
*Fingerprint gesture to bring down notification panel
I've seen a lot of comments on other forums and on YouTube claiming the Note 9 is "waaaay better" than the Mate 20 pro. Only advantages I could think of are spen (but I don't really use it) and headphone jack (I haven't touched it in any phone in the last 3 years since I use strictly BT only, Fc me, right?)
So, am I missing anything that would make the Note 9 superior or that I would miss if I switch to the Mate 20 pro? Or do you think this is absolutely the best phone of 2018?
EDIT: it also has IR blaster and remote control app, missed this since Note 4 lol!
Hi
Your post is really interesting.. I think you used 3 of the most important smartphone based on Android OS.
Sincerely.. Actually I have in my hand the Samsung galaxy note 8...i bought it before buy for my job an iPad with the apple pencil.. After that.. I forgot to use the spen.. Personally.. Too little the screen to be used, for example, to take note during a meeting... This is my personal feedback.
So, for this reason I'm not sure to replace now my note with the note 9.. The most important feature, the S pen, is only an option for me... S9 plus? Yes.. But some hardware parts are already, older than a note 9 hardware set...
Also, after 8 years with only Samsung devices I want try something of different.. And now I think that with this mate 20 pro, maybe I found what I need... High performance, wireless charge, amazing camera, pc mode (maybe can be a interesting features if can be used without any extra hardware such Samsung dex, but also the note 9 now can be used without it).. Nice design...
So, actually I think this will be my next smartphone... I'm. 90% sure...
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Hi
Your post is really interesting.. I think you used 3 of the most important smartphone based on Android OS.
Sincerely.. Actually I have in my hand the Samsung galaxy note 8...i bought it before buy for my job an iPad with the apple pencil.. After that.. I forgot to use the spen.. Personally.. Too little the screen to be used, for example, to take note during a meeting... This is my personal feedback.
So, for this reason I'm not sure to replace now my note with the note 9.. The most important feature, the S pen, is only an option for me... S9 plus? Yes.. But some hardware parts are already, older than a note 9 hardware set...
Also, after 8 years with only Samsung devices I want try something of different.. And now I think that with this mate 20 pro, maybe I found what I need... High performance, wireless charge, amazing camera, pc mode (maybe can be a interesting features if can be used without any extra hardware such Samsung dex, but also the note 9 now can be used without it).. Nice design...
So, actually I think this will be my next smartphone... I'm. 90% sure...
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I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I am 90% sure as well, only thing I just found out I'd miss that I first thought I wouldn't is always on display. Mate 20 Pro has it but it is just the clock and battery, no third party notifications. So if it doesn't show notification I think I'll just turn off AOD to save battery, however, if it doesn't have the RGB LED either, I think I'd miss something to check notifications at a glance
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I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I am 90% sure as well, only thing I just found out I'd miss that I first thought I wouldn't is always on display. Mate 20 Pro has it but it is just the clock and battery, no third party notifications. So if it doesn't show notification I think I'll just turn off AOD to save battery, however, if it doesn't have the RGB LED either, I think I'd miss something to check notifications at a glance
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Yes is true but also in this case for my opinion it depend of the normal use of everyone's...
For a example.. Personally I deactivate on my note 8 the always on function because I use for my job and personal use the smartphone really every moment, and switch on the screen to check he notification, is not a problem for me..
The battery life is another important point for me... As I explained before, I abuse of my smartphone usually.. Mail.. WhatsApp, web surfing and a lot of special application such autocad, notes... The only apps that I don't use are the games...
Anyway, I noticed that after some months Samsung device became to have a battery drain.. In some case I solved using avast antivirus app, because his app kill some background process, that wasn't not stopped using the software integrated in Samsung device.
I know that now we have a bigger batteryin both devices, but I want try another company and check if the battery drain can be not a problem anymore.. Also.. I want try the ai support of huawei that promise to solve the problem of the bad performance after day after day...
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I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I am 90% sure as well, only thing I just found out I'd miss that I first thought I wouldn't is always on display. Mate 20 Pro has it but it is just the clock and battery, no third party notifications. So if it doesn't show notification I think I'll just turn off AOD to save battery, however, if it doesn't have the RGB LED either, I think I'd miss something to check notifications at a glance
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Same here man, my pixel 2 xl aod is brilliant, and dunno how i will cope with mate 20 pro aod... Like why is soo hard for them to implement this? Still i pulled the trigger and pre ordered it, will keep pixel for a week after just in csse and see if get get used to it not seeing notifications on the aod...
For me is an absolutely yes to your question I never had anything like this Mate 20 Pro it is even better than P20 Pro! Wireless charging, amazing screen amazing battery life fast graphics and processor its all full of future proof! And aesthetically is gorgeous!
The phone seems to be gorgeous, but EMUI is horrible...
No 3rd party notifications for AOD and no expandable lockscreen notifications (no whatsapp quick reply or mail delete)
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The phone seems to be gorgeous, but EMUI is horrible...
No 3rd party notifications for AOD and no expandable lockscreen notifications (no whatsapp quick reply or mail delete)
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Feel the same, gorgeous hardware and not so gorgeous software. Had the P20 Pro and loved everything but the software. Will at least try the Mate 20 Pro and see if it is a keeper or not
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Feel the same, gorgeous hardware and not so gorgeous software. Had the P20 Pro and loved everything but the software. Will at least try the Mate 20 Pro and see if it is a keeper or not
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I also tried the P20 Pro and gave it back because of that damn EMUI... I hoped that they would fix the expandable LS and AOD but nothing happened. That's why I won't buy any phone from Huawei.
Seems like Huawei does not think that these are bugs....
What do they think are the advantages of taking these features out? I don't get it
So as an update to my first post, here's a few more cons of the Mate 20 Pro (some only apply in the US)
*Everyone seems to dislike EMUI
*Problems with third party lunchers
*Worse signal in the US, no wifi calling and no LTE bands 66 and 71 (T-Mobile)
*Pissible spying
*When using the hiding notch option the screen does look noticeable smaller vs Note 9 (picture attached) I'm not sure if the downgrade in display size would bother me
In this thread everyone seems to be against the Mate 20 pro (vs Note 9)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-vs-huawei-mate-20-t3855360
Damn, I'm sill laying to the side of getting the 20 Pro but this just made the decision harder
Today I tested Mate 20 Pro:
- High quality hardwares: very good build quality, Oled screen look better than Note 9 ( better white balance, higher brightness ) ...
- Seem very good battery life, better than Note 9 and Xs Max
- I don't like EMIUI too: not really modern ( clean and clear ), some micro stutter lags
- Portrait Backlighting: bad quality compare to Note 9 especially compare yo Xs Max
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Today I tested Mate 20 Pro:
- High quality hardwares: very good bùi quality, Oled screen look better than Note 9 ( better white balance, higher brightness ) ...
- Seem very good battery life, better than Note 9 and Xs Max
- I don't like EMIUI too: not really modern ( clean and clear ), some micro stutter lags
- Portrait Backlighting: bad quality compare to Note 9 especially compare yo Xs Max
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Awesome thank you so much for the feedback! I was really concerned about screen colors and brightness feeling as a downgrade from Note 9
Would you say the micro stutters are worse than in Note 9? It always drop frames when opening recent apps menu, switching apps, unlocking animation, adjusting split screen, operating split screen both apps start to lag, opening swiftkey keyboard, especially on google translate app I'm not sure why but it lags really bad (relatively for a $1000+ phone) like 4-5 seconds to open swiftkey keyboard after tapping on text box. I know EMUI is no OxygenOS but I was hoping at least some improvement from Note 9. Just as Note 9 is not perfect but improvement from Note is very welcome.
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Today I tested Mate 20 Pro:
- High quality hardwares: very good build quality, Oled screen look better than Note 9 ( better white balance, higher brightness ) ...
- Seem very good battery life, better than Note 9 and Xs Max
- I don't like EMIUI too: not really modern ( clean and clear ), some micro stutter lags
- Portrait Backlighting: bad quality compare to Note 9 especially compare yo Xs Max
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You have the BOE display, right? I am really really reaaaally dissapointed with the LG display, it's almost a deal breaker I am still thinking about it depends if I find enough workarounds for other problems.
What i like about the Huawei Mate 20 Pro is:
The design
The screen
The performance
The battery life
The face unlock
The onscreen fingerprint reader
The camera
Emui is alright.
Huawei could do better with:
Faster updates. (I'm on 108 and other people are on 122 and even 128? firmwares). More customization options such as custom font, making the notification screen black and or transparent (same with quick settings, it's black but no transparent), removing certain statusbar icons. Giving us the option to completely remove all bloatware that can be installed trough the Google Play Store.

Exchange mate 20 against Pixel 3xl your advice please!

Hi please, is it worth it to exchange mate 20 against pixel 3xl thank you
PS: I know I'm posting on wrong place, but the topic of mate 20 is dead
The regular mate 20? If you don't have to pay ANYTHING more... I'd probably consider it... Probably
I would do it, with at any hasitation... I 2ould kill for some aosp love.... hate how emui handles memory for instance... software ans support s#cks big time, the only things I love from my mate are the charging speed and camera
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I would do it, with at any hasitation... I 2ould kill for some aosp love.... hate how emui handles memory for instance... software ans support s#cks big time, the only things I love from my mate are the charging speed and camera
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Pixels have even worse memory management actually. I agree with you on the software front though, emui is definitely not something I like about this phone.
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Pixels have even worse memory management actually. I agree with you on the software front though, emui is definitely not something I like about this phone.
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I don't know about Pixel memory management, it should be fine now... I know it was an debacle, I thought Google had fixed that though........ any way.... last huawei for me ?
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I don't know about Pixel memory management, it should be fine now... I know it was an debacle, I thought Google had fixed that though........ any way.... last huawei for me ?
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The only thing I really her about this phone is emui.
Hi,
I actually have both, Mate 20 Pro and Pixel 3XL and am switching back and forth regularly as I can't make up my mind (I'd love the mix of the 2 ).
Regarding Pixel 3XL vs Mate 20 (keep in mind it's the Mate 20 Pro) :
Pros :
• "Clean" Android vs EMUI even though EMUI has some nice features (eg screenshot gesture)
• Regular firmware updates (M20P is said to get monthly but not as far as I am concerned)
• No Bootloader lock
• Android Q 1st day (wait to see when M20P will get it)
Cons :
• Battery (hard to make a full day with my usage vs 1.5 days easy on M20P)
• Missing wide angle which is pretty nice on M20P for landscape pics
• Memory management (even though greatly improved compared to the beginning)
• No Miracast
• No Dual SIM / SD Card
• M20P has better (more vivid) display in my eyes
As far as my usage is concerned, other than Wide angle, both cameras have sufficient quality.
Now even though the Cons list is longer, it all depends on the importance YOU put on each point. I'm on the Pixel 3 XL right now for the last 2 weeks (M20P in a drawer) because the Android experience is globally more satisfying to me (and being able to test Android Q Beta 4).
I too played around with pixel 3a and pixel 3 (not xl).
As LuMe96 says, he is pretty much spot on there, so won't repeat what was said. To be honest, having a clean android is a shock coming from EMUI - feels more swiping going on. Like for example to get application list, you have to hold and swipe all the way up, where as M20P you have an application button. EMUI is more polished.
Comparing cameras - apart from macro shots (which isn't in pixel), night sights is really good (ie, in dark room I was able to read my b'day card, whereas M20P I couldn't). AR mode is very good (you see marvel character in your viewing space as if he/she are there), unlike M20P was rather crappy. You certainly don't find as much camera effects then M20P.
I can't seem to set the shutter speed to like 30 secs on pixel whereas you can on m20p so stars photos isn't great. Might be able to get a better camera app, but afaik, I don't think you can set the shutter speed more then 2s.
I haven't noticed any slow downs or lags, but having said that, I don't play games. It can handle many apps opening at once.
3a camera shots - there is a tiny tiny lag as its rendering the photo you taken, but it doesn't effect the photo speed you taking - it just the rendering.
I get a bit of a storage anxiety - you mindful of lack of storage so if you thinking of installing big fancy 3d games, then i may come to be an issue. (i think you got about 56gb remaining with clean os)
I got a pixel 3 cos I found a really good deal (cheaper then 3a!). 3a isn't that much different to be honest -if you are a type of person that gets a good case and screen protector, then you probably don't need gorilla glass. wireless charging dock is £80, so if you not bothered about wireless charging or paying a fortune for the dock, then 3a is best. Can't remember if pixel is waterproof, but on M20P if a spot of water is on the screen, I found the screen a little unresponsive anyway.
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EMUI is more polished.
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You're literally the only person I've ever heard say this
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You're literally the only person I've ever heard say this
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Haha when I say polished I meant glossy! Shiny colour schemes and all that
to be honest i found the biggest draw backs with the pixel phones the much slower charging speeds and the much worse battery life are really noticeable after having the mate 20 pro and its the two biggest things that made me sell my pixel 3 and keep the mate 20 pro , the battery life and charging speeds are absolute game changers for my usage
updates are nice to have fast but i found emui 9 to have more features and better gestures than stock android and you can theme the mate 20 pro so easy with launcher/theme/font/icon pack etc that emui9 can look very good and more how you want it to look rather than stock android
i like the pixel 3 camera but i also like the mate 20 pro camera , both have strong points and weak points and both are fun to use with great output but i do tend to lean towards the mate 20 pro camera due to its features and versatility although no flash in aperture mode bugs me
i also really like the nokia 9 and prefer the camera output to both the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro , however it also has a smaller battery and slower charging times and again after using the mate 20 pro i really notice that
I prefer the Mate 20p - probably a subjective thing.
I forget the waterproof rating on the 20p, but the Pixel 3 is one value lower (my wife has the Pixel).
I also agree about using an alternate launcher and theming for dealing with clutter. I used Apex for a long time, but yesterday tried out Smart Launcher - very nicely organized with a simple home page, search page and widget page. The best part is the application page, with categorized subsections. Very elegant, and maintains the phone gestures (or customize your own). Here are pics of home page and one of the app screens with the theme I currently use.
I had the pixel 3 and gave it to my mom and bought the mate 20 pro
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I prefer the Mate 20p - probably a subjective thing.
I forget the waterproof rating on the 20p, but the Pixel 3 is one value lower (my wife has the Pixel).
I also agree about using an alternate launcher and theming for dealing with clutter. I used Apex for a long time, but yesterday tried out Smart Launcher - very nicely organized with a simple home page, search page and widget page. The best part is the application page, with categorized subsections. Very elegant, and maintains the phone gestures (or customize your own). Here are pics of home page and one of the app screens with the theme I currently use.
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niceee that theme is that
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niceee that theme is that
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Azure.

Question Is this phone worth upgrading too?

I've seen lots of complaints regarding the Pixel 6 Pro and while I was considering upgrading, I'm now not sure on what to do.
I honestly don't know. Mine is coming today. Personally I decided to go with the smaller pixel 6. I usually don't get a phone on launch day i like to wait for at least 6 months because every phone that has ever been made has problems. But in this case i figured the 6 couldn't be much worse than the pixel 5 which is what i have now so i got it. If the tensor chip proves to be all its claiming and the phone is really as good as it looks then i will get the pro and give the base model to my wife.
Okay cool, let me know what you think of it
Depends on what you're upgrading from. I'm coming from a OP6, so this will be a welcomed upgrade
Depends what you're upgrading from I guess.
I had an Experia 5ii, great little device with a sometimes awesome camera but as time's gone on the proximity sensor doesn't seem to work well and it drops a lot of calls. So as a phone, a bit pants!
What I've noticed so far with the P6.
Display is lovely, going from 120hz to to 90hz wasn't a big deal, it's still smooth. Brightness and colours are the best I've had on a device.
Using it as a phone seems to work well, and in the car it maintains reception.
Haptics are really nice and clicky
Camera is good so far, especially in lower light which in the UK is important!
Batery is good, about 36 hours in normal use.
Fingerprint sensor is OK, it's not great and takes time to register but it's fine.
It is quite heavy.
In use, it's snappy and smooth. I don't game on the phone but for everything else it's quick.
The only real irritating things I can find is the slightly slow FP reader and I can't seem to get rid of the new small at-a-glance on the home screen, I want the old one back!
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Depends on what you're upgrading from. I'm coming from a OP6, so this will be a welcomed upgrade
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Coming from a galaxy a71.
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Depends what you're upgrading from I guess.
I had an Experia 5ii, great little device with a sometimes awesome camera but as time's gone on the proximity sensor doesn't seem to work well and it drops a lot of calls. So as a phone, a bit pants!
What I've noticed so far with the P6.
Display is lovely, going from 120hz to to 90hz wasn't a big deal, it's still smooth. Brightness and colours are the best I've had on a device.
Using it as a phone seems to work well, and in the car it maintains reception.
Haptics are really nice and clicky
Camera is good so far, especially in lower light which in the UK is important!
Batery is good, about 36 hours in normal use.
Fingerprint sensor is OK, it's not great and takes time to register but it's fine.
It is quite heavy.
In use, it's snappy and smooth. I don't game on the phone but for everything else it's quick.
The only real irritating things I can find is the slightly slow FP reader and I can't seem to get rid of the new small at-a-glance on the home screen, I want the old one back!
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Is the fingerprint sensor really slow or is it about the same as other under display optical sensors? As for at-a-glance is that mostly just personal taste?
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Is the fingerprint sensor really slow or is it about the same as other under display optical sensors? As for at-a-glance is that mostly just personal taste?
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.
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I've never used a pixel before but apparently at a glance is one of the main features, let's hope they change this soon and okay at least the fingerprint sensor is not worse than others.
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I've never used a pixel before but apparently at a glance is one of the main features, let's hope they change this soon and okay at least the fingerprint sensor is not worse than others.
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We maybe talking at cross purposes... I've attached a couple of screenshots.
I much prefer the at a glance widget which has been available for a few years with the Google Assistant vs the fixed new one in the top left corner.
This is my first pixel, I've had pho es running Pixel Experience before but no Pixel up until now appealed to me, there was always a compromise too far whereas this seems to tick all the boxes, an SD card reader would have been nice though.
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We maybe talking at cross purposes... I've attached a couple of screenshots.
I much prefer the at a glance widget which has been available for a few years with the Google Assistant vs the fixed new one in the top left corner.
This is my first pixel, I've had pho es running Pixel Experience before but no Pixel up until now appealed to me, there was always a compromise too far whereas this seems to tick all the boxes, an SD card reader would have been nice though.
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I see what you mean, I agree with you on preferring the original at a glance widget.
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Coming from a galaxy a71.
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Looking at the specs of the regular a71 vs the Pixel 6 (https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11037&idPhone2=9995), it looks like the Pixel 6 has a smaller screen, but better gorilla glass, much faster CPU/GPU, about the same camera's (maybe a little worse on the Pixel 6, but don't forget Google has a lot of software tweaks to their photos that will help boost the quality above the a71), faster USB, WiFi 6 support and 5G support if you don't have the a71 5g version. The a71 does have a MicroSD slot which the Pixel 6 doesn't have if that's an important feature to you. Oh and the Pixel 6 is IP68 rated, but the a71 doesn't show any IP rating.
Basically the Pixel 6 is a smaller screen, faster phone (CPU, GPU, 5G and WiFi) with equivalent camera quality, but doesn't allow you to expand the storage. So it would be an upgrade, but not a MAJOR upgrade as the a71 is still a very good phone by 2021 standards.
I upgraded from a P3a XL to the P6. I simply will not spend $800-$1200 on a phone that is going to be obsolete in a couple of years. That's why I've stayed with the "A" series Pixels until now. The P6 was a bit of a budget stretch, but the phone is so much better than the "A" series phones that it was worth the extra $100-150 to me.
For me personally, the P6 Pro doesn't offer enough benefits to justify the $300 price difference - that's a 50% increase in price over the P6. Obviously everything in the Pro is slightly better than the P6, but I didn't feel that everything was 50% better.
That being said, the P6 is a great phone and I am very happy with it so far. Of course I've only had it for about 24 hours now. The in-screen fingerprint reader has worked fine for me. It is a "touch and hold" motion (need to hold for almost a second before it unlocks), but I've had probably 90% success with my first touch. It's not as fast or as reliable has the rear reader on the P3 XL, but I actually like the front placement better than the rear. I didn't think I was going to say that, but being able to unlocked the phone while it is sitting on a table without picking it up is really nice. The front reader is also placed in the perfect spot to read your thumb when you do pick it up too.
It's been raining here, so I haven't really tried out the cameras, but I believe they are as good as the former Pixels. Not better yet, but as good. I honestly expect the camera performance to get better as Google continues to tweak the software for the new sensor and lenses. The old sensor was tweaked for years and years to get it to the current quality level. If Google can start at that level with the new sensor, I am quite happy.
Just got my pixel6, coming from a year on a redmagic flagship. Pixel feels like a downgrade.
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.oming from a mi9t Pro
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Second this. I'm coming from a mi9t Pro and the fingerprint scanner on the Pixel 6 seems to be the same.
Coming from a 3a, my biggest reservation is the size. There are places where my 3a fits well -- certain pockets, in my car when plugged in, while cycling., etc. -- and the added size of the 6 might just be too much. I might have opted for the 5a, but the way they soft-pedaled and restricted the release makes me afraid it will be somewhat of an orphan product. Decisions, decisions...
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Just got my pixel6, coming from a year on a redmagic flagship. Pixel feels like a downgrade.
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Question S23 ultra's screen fingerprint unlocking method. Is it better than predecessors?

I believe that the screen fingerprint unlock system of my S23 ultra is a bit worse than the one on my S22 ultra. Although the fingerprint area is larger in S23 ultra than its predecessor, I ended up with many missed tries of screen unlocking. My s23 ultra is 918B , SEK csc (from initial EUX). It is very early to having results but if anyone has something to say , it would be welcomed.
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I believe that the screen fingerprint unlock system of my S23 ultra is a bit worse than the one on my S22 ultra. Although the fingerprint area is larger in S23 ultra than its predecessor, I ended up with many missed tries of screen unlocking. My s23 ultra is 918B , SEK csc (from initial EUX). It is very early to having results but if anyone has something to say , it would be welcomed.
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I don't see a big difference. My recommendation would be to register a second time your fingerprint (as a 2nd fingerprint, not registering it over the original one you performed) with slight different positioning over your scanner, it might help.
Mine seems a lot less accurate than S21U. I rarely ever had to retry unless my hands were dirty, but with the S23U I am failing many times a day.
Compared to my Note 9's dedicated fingerprint sensor on the underneath (my previous phone) it's a flat-out fail, both in terms of accuracy as well as ergonomics
Is it Qualcomm 3D Sonic Sensor Gen 2? i saw a video that show the same size and Qualcomm said it was bigger.
Definitely seems fastest of the 3 other devices i've had recently the chance to use recently
Oppo Find X5 Pro - optical but has had a reasonable error rate in my experience (my daily phone since March 2022 replaced by S23U)
Google Pixel 6a - optical and really terrible until latest update (my daily work phone)
OnePlus 9 Pro - optical worked fine (partners phone)
S21-23 all have the same sensor 3D Gen 2.
I was hoping for the 3D Max on the S23.
The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
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The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
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this !
Terrible in comparison of my Oneplus, but not the same tech.
I registered 4 time my thumb to have more accurate reading, and even that , success rate is about 80% and it's not instant.
face recognition simply does not work, no matter how much I add picture.
Once again, Oneplus was instant, even under weird angle.
The fingerprint unlock in my S23U works better than my S22U and is much faster, people blames fingerprint and face detection when in most of the cases are user error, for fingerprint you need to consider two conditions of the finger: normal and dry and you should add the fingerprint for both conditions, for face detection you should add and alternative picture for improved detection and it works best in good light.
Both face detection in good light and fingerprint are working well, if its not, check what you are doing wrong otherwise you have a lemon.
I believe the S23U is the best phone Samsung made till now in all of the series and I made a correct choice upgrading from my older stutter phone S22U (Snapdragon).
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The fingerprint unlock in my S23U works better than my S22U and is much faster, people blames fingerprint and face detection when in most of the cases are user error, for fingerprint you need to consider two conditions of the finger: normal and dry and you should add the fingerprint for both conditions, for face detection you should add and alternative picture for improved detection and it works best in good light.
Both face detection in good light and fingerprint are working well, if its not, check what you are doing wrong otherwise you have a lemon.
I believe the S23U is the best phone Samsung made till now in all of the series and I made a correct choice upgrading from my older stutter phone S22U (Snapdragon).
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I guess it work for samsung users since they are use to.
Face recognition works, but 10% of the time with good lightning and orientation.
Even MKBH mentioned that OnePlus face recognition was not only stupidly effective, but also secure. Sometime the phone is on the table and get you face.
I have a twin brother and it don't work on him.
So yeah, when you touch Oneplus magic, we are hard on a more expensive phone that are weaker on some aspect.
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The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
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The one on the 8T is optical. The one Samsung uses is ultrasonic. Different tech and different results. For OnePlus devices the screen must be lit for the sensor to work. No so on Samsung.
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I guess it work for samsung users since they are use to.
Face recognition works, but 10% of the time with good lightning and orientation.
Even MKBH mentioned that OnePlus face recognition was not only stupidly effective, but also secure. Sometime the phone is on the table and get you face.
I have a twin brother and it don't work on him.
So yeah, when you touch Oneplus magic, we are hard on a more expensive phone that are weaker on some aspect.
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I don't know who MKBH is and if it's a Youtuber is just a paid budy, that's it. If you get that number of 10% you have a lemon and you should send it to repair. My only experience with Oneplus are their Oneplus Buds Pro, bad quality, enough for not buying nothing from than brand anymore. I'm not pro Samsung because I don't have stock in that company, I use the phone for working and this version is working fine, this didn't happen to me with the other older Galaxy versions where I ever found an issue.
I wish it was like this.
Vivo X90 Pro Plus at 15min and 10 seconds
I already preorder s23u and its comming tomorrow but right now it's the only phone i would consider as alternative.

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