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Hey all, I am interested in buying the Canvas HD after seeing all the comments and great reviews about the device.
There are some questions in my mind though and would really appreciate it if someone would clarify on them.
This could also serve for people like me who want to buy this phone.
1st
What is the 'exact' RAM in it?
As in Settings>Applications>Running = Total RAM (Used + Free memory)
2nd
Does it play 1080p .mkv format videos?
MX player shows S/W or H/W rendering.
3rd
There was an issue about 'Flipboard' not running. Has it been fixed?
4th
Any lags or problems, we should be aware of beforehand?
Thanks a lot to people who may help
nabeeleinstein said:
Hey all, I am interested in buying the Canvas HD after seeing all the comments and great reviews about the device.
There are some questions in my mind though and would really appreciate it if someone would clarify on them.
This could also serve for people like me who want to buy this phone.
1st
What is the 'exact' RAM in it?
As in Settings>Applications>Running = Total RAM (Used + Free memory)
2nd
Does it play 1080p .mkv format videos?
MX player shows S/W or H/W rendering.
3rd
There was an issue about 'Flipboard' not running. Has it been fixed?
4th
Any lags or problems, we should be aware of beforehand?
Thanks a lot to people who may help
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Hi,
First of all, great device in that price range for sure. I loved it.
Here are my experiences to your questions:
1> Exact RAM is 0.99 GB. Also the consumed RAM at any time on my phone has not crossed > ~600 MB. I have a lot of apps installed and running on phone except heavy games. You can be rest assured that 400 MB RAM would be available unless you try to crack 512-bit SHA secured password (just kidding ). The RAM is just fine for the phone and the phone runs smooth with that.
2> It does play 1080p video easily, not sure about .mkv though. There is an app for .mkv in the play store somewhere, so you can search.
3> Don't care much about Flipboard and Yes ! It was fixed. You have atleast 5-6 active ROMs in development for the device so you can try different ROMs if you face any issue. Though rooted STOCK ROM is the best IMHO.
4> There had been no lags for me whatsoever. I was really happy with my device until yesterday when the phone suddenly stopped recognizing any SIM cards. Have heard a lot about pathetic Micromax after sales service but still going to give it a shot myself.
Get the damn phone and wish you never have to visit MMX service center. Welcome to the darkside, we are QUAD core
Yeah this is a beast
anuragupadhaya said:
Hi,
First of all, great device in that price range for sure. I loved it.
Here are my experiences to your questions:
1> Exact RAM is 0.99 GB. Also the consumed RAM at any time on my phone has not crossed > ~600 MB. I have a lot of apps installed and running on phone except heavy games. You can be rest assured that 400 MB RAM would be available unless you try to crack 512-bit SHA secured password (just kidding ). The RAM is just fine for the phone and the phone runs smooth with that.
2> It does play 1080p video easily, not sure about .mkv though. There is an app for .mkv in the play store somewhere, so you can search.
3> Don't care much about Flipboard and Yes ! It was fixed. You have atleast 5-6 active ROMs in development for the device so you can try different ROMs if you face any issue. Though rooted STOCK ROM is the best IMHO.
4> There had been no lags for me whatsoever. I was really happy with my device until yesterday when the phone suddenly stopped recognizing any SIM cards. Have heard a lot about pathetic Micromax after sales service but still going to give it a shot myself.
Get the damn phone and wish you never have to visit MMX service center. Welcome to the darkside, we are QUAD core
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yes of course anuraag is right . this mob is a beast.
Thanks a lot for the quick reply guys.
I had a bad experience with the ninja 4 (low ram was the killer), so wanted to make sure first.
I think i'll wait for canvas 4 reveal and if within budget go for it,
but i'm leaning towards this due to thriving community and xda thread of its own
thanks again guys
do keep updated.
btw is the source code available?
I mean are people building from source, as will 4.3 update be possible?
Hi to all you knowledgeable people. Some assistance and general clarification would be great on this, please.
The story starts with my wife's phone. I don't think that the model etc is important for this question, but it is an LG F60 (or something like that) and it is nearly new. The phone only has 4GB of memory so I made sure that I bought a good size SD card to go with it and I have set the OS to use the card for all media files. This seem to be working as all photos and music etc. are on the SD and there is nothing memory hungry on the internal mem. She has had the unit for a week or so and added perhaps 3 apps + those that were there as part of the out of the box config and now the thing is full - really! So I have a look at the memory usage and see - total 4GB - some apps and some bits and bobs 1.4GB - 'other' 2.44GB. When you drill down 'other' is almost all something called ‘system data’. So the first and simple question is this - does the android OS really need ~2.5 GB out of the box with little use, or have we done something wrong / ill advised? [BTW there are no backups locally, they are remote through a google account]
I connected the device to the PC to try to diagnose the situation. So the Internal storgae is reporting 60MB free of 1.32GB. This implies that 1.32 is all that we had to play with at all which would point towards the fact that the other 2.44 is correct for the OS. There is a folder called android which has ~25MB of data in it but nothing sizable elsewhere on the viewable internal storage space.
Out of interest I have connected a 7" android tablet to the PC to see if this reports the same sort of usage. This is showing 4.3 free from 5.5 total. This is an 8gb device so again this would suggest that 2.5 is used for system, which supports my initial fears.
If it does take 2.5GB just to provide a UI then is it wise or ethical for manufactures to sell devices with this little memory. Who would have thought that we would be suffering from memory issues in 2014 when a 32GB SD costs the price of a sandwich and a drink. I really am struggling with this whole concept. I mean an Ipad cost a lot of money and yet you have to choose to get the one with 32GB rather than 16GB even though the difference probably costs the company literally pence (if anything) - what is going on? My son had to remove loads of things from his ipad to even update the OS to the latest version - it just all seems soooo very crazy to me. With 4GB memory these phones are coming to the market and they are barely fit for purpose. You can buy a laptop these days (for not too much, a few hundred at most) and basically you can just sit and chuck data at it for years before you have any storage problem. Yes - I do understand the dif between a hard disk and RAM (it is called something else now I guess), but even so, these whole tablet industry is seriously flawed by this design limitation IMO. To add to this fact that it is made difficult to transfer data to and from ipads (less so android I realise) and they don't have an expansion slot, their popularity seems a fantastic mystery to me.
Anyway rant over - can somebody help me to understand the phone issue and how I might go about moving the OS onto the card or something of that kind which might improve the situ.
Thanks,
I have the same problem with this phone.
This is a new 2048x1536 clone from Best Buy. It has Rockchip RK3288 processor with a Broadcom BCM4350 WiFi AC/BT4.0/FM radio. It came with Android 5.0.1. As usual from the Chinese, the SW leaves much to be desired. In fact the Regulatory Information page is for the N9. It went the FCC as MID7802 and pictures and user manual are post there. I grabbed one for $150. I was interested since it supports HEVC/H.265. It plays them flawlessly. It scored 785 on AnTuTu video test v3.0. The speed test was 38005. Screen looks good. Now for the bad.
1. Won't turn on when off and charger connected.
2. Adaptive brightness doesn't use the control. Really bright and drains battery.
3. SDcard only accessible for stock apps. ES3 or Kodi can't see it. Probably mounted root only.
4. Camera app is really primitive. No option to record as HEVC even though HW encoding supported.
Any thoughts on this tablet and how easy or hard it would be to get a good ROM on it?
Hmm, the bad looks like stuff that could be fixed with a software update. Though I've yet to see an adaptive brightness option that was any good. I almost always adjust manually. I never really use camera functions on my tablets. The part where it won't turn on while charging is a bit disturbing though.
Battery drains while screen sleeps like crazy
decent tab
I managed to pick the flex elite 7.85" tablet up @ my local Best Buy yesterday for a discounted price of only $90 and so far very happy with it for the cost. Not sure I would be so happy at the full $150...maybe so though.
Battery life isn't the greatest even with a good battery saving app. Doesn't bother me to much though because I usually have my tabs plugged into the wall outlet.
Some things I like are the beautiful display and greatly bright lighting, makes it easy to use outside or in. Also like the quick responsiveness and sensitive touch screen. It's not so sensitive that you're accidentally hitting things you don't want to but plenty sensitive to pick up on the intentional hits. I like the thin style (only 0.3" thin, I think). Although it's plastic it feels solid and higher end in the hands. All in all it's just a decent tab for the average user...although maybe not so much for the enthusiast.
A couple things I don't like are that there are no accessories available for it at all. I'm rough on electronics (drop alot) and a good, solid case is near necessity for me. Still ticked off about dropping my Sero 7 PRO and killing it last year...man, was that ever a nice tab?!
Another thing I am a bit disenchanted with is no root instruction yet available and no ROM that I know of...been searching and hoping. I also read somewhere that it's not possible to write to the micro SD card from the tablet...if true, that really sucks! Though I rarely use a micro SD card with tabs, it's nice to be able to use them to keep onboard space freed up. I still need to buy a micro SD to test this last statement for myself, so can't guarantee the accuracy of the statement.
Anyway, decent tab that will probably fulfill my web browsing, shopping and WordPress needs for the next year so can't complain for a $90 investment. I don't expect any updates to the firmware over it's lifetime and really not to hopeful for a root instructional to be written but still pretty decent out of the box so far....I'll let you know about the possible microsd issue once I find out for myself.
OK, so I found out that the microsd card is difficult to get mounted and working correctly on this tablet (unfortunately I'm no geek). But I was finally able to use an app to xfer files after formatting the SD card to ntsf instead of fat32. Still a pita but got it working.
Now if only someone would make an easy root instructional for this thing I might actually keep it for a while
Alrighty, got one of these and so far it's been good for its price.
I can turn it off and on while charging, both sleep/wake and full power off/power on.
The brightness seems fine to me, but again I've not used adaptive as I've never had a tab with a worthwhile adaptive brightness, and I've had Nexus 7 and 9, Galaxy Tabs pro and S, and a half dozen others.
Getting an SD later today for it.
Battery life isn't great, but I'm not seeing the sleep drain I keep reading about.
As has been mentioned the SD is only visible to system apps. Unless you format it NTFS, then it can be found by other apps. Need to figure out how to make shortcuts/symbolic links so it can be reached from areas other than /mnt as I think some apps expect it to show up in the storage folder and other places.
It's fast and snappy. Display is crisp & nice and bright and is the perfect size. I too am seeing unexpected battery drain overnight (losing 50% of battery) while the tablet is sleeping. I wish the battery lasted longer on standby as my needs are to read to fall asleep and then wake up and study - the Tab A has a longer lasting battery than this. Takes a long time to boot up if it's entirely shut down. It refuses to run Netflix either in the Netflix app nor in the browser. I have all the latest updates of the OS plus Netflix but it's not working. It's a shame but I am today returning it to BestBuy due to the Netflix issue which I consider a core app. WINS: Display is awesome and CPU speed is very good! CONS: Won't play Netflix, battery life is weak, takes long to boot up.
still no sign of 4rd party rooms?
in the market for something to replace my POS dell 8 tablet. can anyone say how insignia is on updates? will this get 6?
Oma has made a rom for it at arctablet.com
bbobb said:
Oma has made a rom for it at arctablet.com
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link?
cannot post links.
google 'insignia flex elite oma root'
should be top result.
Got to page 4, post 49.
micro sdcard should be formatted ntfs
i just bought this tablet used
i think my rom is hosed, it has a system process kill at startup and it is very laggy. it also shuts down is left to sleep for more then 5min. a factory reset doesnt change anything... but ive seen this before... nothing short of a full rom wipe fixes it. that's the real danger of chinese tablets, if you hose the os there is no way to fix it...
im trying to root it and put oma rom on it, to see if that fixes the software issues. i dont think its hardware, because once im in a game or app it runs lightning quick. even games like mortal kombat with their high end graphics run smooth... its really somethin on this screen.
boot time SUCKS on this tablet. like, 4min or something. what the hell insignia? you cant optimize this rom even a little bit?
I like the tablet. I have seen several software updates (didn't check the build numbers) before I flashed Oma's ROM. It still has a long boot time, but if you go to the developer options, and turn off the animation options, it feels pretty fast (definitely faster than anything that is even close to this price range). Oma's current rom doesn't fix the Netflix app issue. Maybe an update can figure out what the conflict is?
superhumvee said:
I like the tablet. I have seen several software updates (didn't check the build numbers) before I flashed Oma's ROM. It still has a long boot time, but if you go to the developer options, and turn off the animation options, it feels pretty fast (definitely faster than anything that is even close to this price range). Oma's current rom doesn't fix the Netflix app issue. Maybe an update can figure out what the conflict is?
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I just got one yesterday. I didn't update to the December update, but I flashed oma's rom (pretty sure I did?), rooted with king root and then replaced with super su and the boot up time is much much faster than stock. I want to say less than a minute vs. close to 3 or 4 before.
I bought two of these used off eBay, both seem to suffer from sound stutter/slight freeze ups once in awhile. I've reset both and made sure they are running the current OTA update.
It seems to mostly do it for Youtube and YouTube for Kids, but notice it once in awhile during some more graphic intense games. Which surprises me as from the specs at least this should be a pretty decent budget tablet.
I just picked up a "seller refurbished" on from Ebay -- there are a *ton* of them up there at the moment. It actually looks pretty decent. The battery life is *horrible* (about 4 hours of SOT for reading or web surfing), but the rest of the flaws can be worked around.
First off was setting the window animations to zero, as suggested here earlier, followed by KingRoot and SU substitution (also as suggested). Then, from the Store:
- SDFix:KitKat Writable MicroSD and
- Folder Mount
combined to let me store app data on the microSD.
- FlashFire did a great job of installing Xposed Framework and from there I can tweak to my hearts' content (Greenify, GravityBox, and XSSID Indicator so far)!
Right now, it looks like your best bet would be Oma's rom that someone mentioned earlier, which would be rooted and let you do some customization. I don't use KingRoot because there's some report that the software collects data on you without your consent. What with all the rumors about Xiaomi snooping on you and China's officially-sanctioned practices in cyber space, you don't want to assume unnecessary risks. Bad enough that Uncle Sam is looking over your shoulder, but China?? Do the math!
Back to the matter at hand. Looks like your tab will be stuck with Lollipop forever (1) because the sales of this model is low enough not to stimulate any interest in developing custom roms; (2) manufacturer's support is non-existent (I mean literally non-existent); (3) if you get a representative to answer, the person doesn't know enough to say anything beyond what's in the manual; and (4) they categorically refuse to release even a stock rom for the user to restore where the tab is bricked by their own OTA updates!!! What sets them apart is that I know of no other reputable manufacturer that would so adamantly oppose such potential remedies. Unbelievable! The only recourse is warranty - which means if you're outside that period, you're toast, even if the hardware is in perfectly working order.
To recap, absolutely no support and no update. Promulgating a policy that drives away consumers is of course their prerogative, but why they care so much about losing business is beyond me. So think hard before shelling out for their products. Low prices and enticing specs ain't worth crap if the tablet doesn't work at all.
***UPDATE***
Hey Guys for new readers we have accomplished the following discoveries in this thread:
-Verified 128GB sd card works
-Verified Kingroot can root the device
-Verified straight talk works with this
-A firmware update was released that puts google play services and google play store on the phone
-The Battery has issues after 50%
-Linsk2SD works but some apps failed, and some apps act weird,I will update this post with link however my time is short today, Halloween parties!
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Good Evening!
I have never (or at least I think that's true) made a thread on here and this is my first time actually logging in other than making an account I've had for a little while. Anyways I ordered this much W3D gaming phone back in 2015 and it was cancelled and I was sad. But when I went back on aliexpress to order it again, I asked the same vendor that told me the company failed (I have that message screen capped lol) told me it was rush shipping over to the US. Fortunately for me I love throwing my money away, but this time I was in for a treat.
I. Love. This. Phone.
Now then, how do I help out this awesome community with the phone? How can I help rip it and copy it online so you guys can play with the software and packages? It's a very bare-bones version of 4.4.1 and has a ton of added features you would see in xposed. Like it seamlessly converted my 128gb mico sd card to it's main internal storage and I didn't do anything! I best of all unlike 6.0 the sd card is totally free and accessible from windows explorer. Unfortunately I have only had it for a short while and haven't tested everything yet. Also I'm sorry if this is the wrong place like I said I've never posted before
Hey Gatekeeper,
Your not the only silent fan of the snail W3d device, I have been waiting for updates and ordered the device myself ... I'm glad to hear that your enjoying it. Keep the fans updated with your personal review of the device.
1.) how does it handle graphic intensive Android games? ... my only fear is that the mobile GPU is slightly outdated.
2.) How does it handle emulators?
3.) Is there any exclusive games in the built-in snail mobile app store?
Thanks for sharing.
So, this is where the silent fans of the phone are meeting. Any updates about the device will be highly appreciated. Also, if you are having an issue with Google Play Store. There is an International firmware released for the phone that installs in. You can find the firmware on OPENYOUREYES SHOP website.
Nice pic collage by the way!
I am really excited about this phone as well and will be most likely picking one up myself. I did want to ask to see if anyone knew what options there as far as cases for this phone.
anthonylp25 said:
I am really excited about this phone as well and will be most likely picking one up myself. I did want to ask to see if anyone knew what options there as far as cases for this phone.
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None at all officially. You'll have to improvise. I currently own the Snail W1 (W3D Predecessor) and I use a PSP Vita foam pouch to carry it. Not much for protecting it, but it keeps the body free from scratches while in my pocket.
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The_Gatekeeper_ said:
Good Evening!
I have never (or at least I think that's true) made a thread on here and this is my first time actually logging in other than making an account I've had for a little while. Anyways I ordered this much W3D gaming phone back in 2015 and it was cancelled and I was sad. But when I went back on aliexpress to order it again, I asked the same vendor that told me the company failed (I have that message screen capped lol) told me it was rush shipping over to the US. Fortunately for me I love throwing my money away, but this time I was in for a treat.
I. Love. This. Phone.
Now then, how do I help out this awesome community with the phone? How can I help rip it and copy it online so you guys can play with the software and packages? It's a very bare-bones version of 4.4.1 and has a ton of added features you would see in xposed. Like it seamlessly converted my 128gb mico sd card to it's main internal storage and I didn't do anything! I best of all unlike 6.0 the sd card is totally free and accessible from windows explorer. Unfortunately I have only had it for a short while and haven't tested everything yet. Also I'm sorry if this is the wrong place like I said I've never posted before
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By the way, GATEKEEPER. you stated that the phone seamlessly converted your 128 GB card to internal storage. I have some questions for you. There have been concerns involving SD Card usage with the phone. Are you able to move apps and games to the SD CARD?
What brand of 128 Micro SD Card are you using? (SCANDISK, SAMSUNG, etc) What's the Class? (CLASS 4, 6, 10, etc). These specs will greatly assist since I have heard different reports.
Also, do you have a backup of the original firmware 4.4.1 that came with the phone? The device specs describe the phone has 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 installed?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
bigpillincaman said:
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
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What's the model number for the battery? I'm wondering if you can purchase another and have one pre charged since you can easily take the back off.
Yes I think that i can buy a new battery but maybe i found the problem. I see that micro sd scanner has removed 30% of battery
I discovered that Retroarch download all thumbnails (boxart,title screens and screenshots) for every platform game! I was thinking that download only thumbnails for game that i have. So I had 10 000 images in my micro sd and media scanner every time I changed files in micro sd, did a new scan. Now i have put .nomedia file in retroarch thumbnails folder and disabled media scanner with adb.
I hope that the problem was that for the battery.
For micro sd permissions i see that is a kit kat problem, so i make changes to permissions.xml and now the camera works every time but I can't install yet mame4android and other apps that want to access to the sd card with the sd card mounted.
bigpillincaman said:
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
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Yep, very helpful, many Thanks! Did you buy from OPENYOUREYES SHOP?
From what I have heard, the Pros and Cons are very consistent. There are many apps that can more than likely keep the battery optimized. Greenify seems to be one of the most popular, but there are many others. See what works best for you. I found one place that sells the battery, but I am unsure how to order from there. Check TAOBAOFOCUS.COM. Search for the phone, and you will see the battery along with it. I checked with the Aliexpress reseller, but he doesn't have extra batteries for it.
I may also ask OPENYOUREYES Shop and see if they plan to sell the batteries.
As for the mapper, I would suggest using Tincore Mapper. It will map all buttons, and also give you extra mapping abilities, like mapping the d-pad on King of Fighters instead of the analog stick. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but it's worth it. I use it on the Snail W1.
As for the SD Card, still trying to figure that one out. I don't yet have the W3D, so I'm not able to try some things. Hopefully, there's some trick to getting it to work, which is why I am hoping The Gatekeeper responds. It may only work best with certain card speeds and classes.
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I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
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Also wanted to ask, are you in the US? What carrier are you using? How is the coverage? What numbers are you getting on speed tests?
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Yep, very helpful, many Thanks! Did you buy from OPENYOUREYES SHOP?
From what I have heard, the Pros and Cons are very consistent. There are many apps that can more than likely keep the battery optimized. Greenify seems to be one of the most popular, but there are many others. See what works best for you. I found one place that sells the battery, but I am unsure how to order from there. Check TAOBAOFOCUS.COM. Search for the phone, and you will see the battery along with it. I checked with the Aliexpress reseller, but he doesn't have extra batteries for it.
I may also ask OPENYOUREYES Shop and see if they plan to sell the batteries.
As for the mapper, I would suggest using Tincore Mapper. It will map all buttons, and also give you extra mapping abilities, like mapping the d-pad on King of Fighters instead of the analog stick. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but it's worth it. I use it on the Snail W1.
As for the SD Card, still trying to figure that one out. I don't yet have the W3D, so I'm not able to try some things. Hopefully, there's some trick to getting it to work, which is why I am hoping The Gatekeeper responds. It may only work best with certain card speeds and classes.
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Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, i bought it on OPENYOUREYES Shop
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Also wanted to ask, are you in the US? What carrier are you using? How is the coverage? What numbers are you getting on speed tests?
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I'm in Italy. Here the phone works very well. I had no problem with the GPS.
I haven't done benchmarks. Which app do you recommend to test the speed?
bigpillincaman said:
Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, i bought it on OPENYOUREYES Shop
I'm in Italy. Here the phone works very well. I had no problem with the GPS.
I haven't done benchmarks. Which app do you recommend to test the speed?
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For your benchmarks can you use Antutu and for speed test can you use Ookla
Hey guys I have been using a Straight Talk sim card and it makes calls and data works great. I had to activate the sim card online and manually change the mobile network settings, but after a few reboots it was working great! And honestly for a long phone it doesn't feel too awkward when making calls.
I appreciate all the feedback and it fills me with joy knowing other people have had a chance to use it as well. I plan on making a few youtube videos that covers a general overview of the phone and then the fun stuff like a compilation of emulators and of course game stream while in downtown atlanta on cellular and wifi.
oh and sorry guys but to answer your questions regarding the games install on internal or SD I still have yet to install the play store with that firmware and plan to do that tonight. Under settings there is a storage option that allows me to pick which is the default write disk, as the menu is titled. From there I select the SD card and it has been filled up ever since. I have installed apk's via sideload and I don't see the "true" internal storage space depleting after I did that. Now I still see some apps installed there. I want to see if in the future we will be able to use links2sd since that's what my xperia play uses for it's folder redirection.
I'll be answering questions soon gents so stay tuned.
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By the way, GATEKEEPER. you stated that the phone seamlessly converted your 128 GB card to internal storage. I have some questions for you. There have been concerns involving SD Card usage with the phone. Are you able to move apps and games to the SD CARD?
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I will take a picture of the settings menu and explain in more detail what I meant by that. It appears we can change the default write disk to the SD card, which is what I guess it asked me as a pop up when I put an sd card in it for the first time. Like I said previously this does NOT lock down your sd card, and in fact this phone offers three different computer connection methods either as a storage device, or as MTP, or for photos, along with charge only function.
And for your second question it appears that some apps downloaded were placed in internal storage and I could not move them :\ I did get my phone's firmware updated with the google play store (awesome!! thanks guys for the recommendation for that! I saw the video but wasn't sure if it applied to me) and I attempted to root it, and I think it worked. I will now test links2sd and see if that helps with the internal storage part without needing to unlock bootloaders and get too messy with extra work.
What brand of 128 Micro SD Card are you using? (SCANDISK, SAMSUNG, etc) What's the Class? (CLASS 4, 6, 10, etc). These specs will greatly assist since I have heard different reports.
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This is exactly what I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G26R7LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also, do you have a backup of the original firmware 4.4.1 that came with the phone? The device specs describe the phone has 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 installed?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry but I do not
***Quick Update!***
I installed links2SD and so far all but youtube moved to the SD card, making my internal storage from 9 to 11.27 free space. I tested the google play store and services since those are major apps that got moved and it works fine!
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I will take a picture of the settings menu and explain in more detail what I meant by that. It appears we can change the default write disk to the SD card, which is what I guess it asked me as a pop up when I put an sd card in it for the first time. Like I said previously this does NOT lock down your sd card, and in fact this phone offers three different computer connection methods either as a storage device, or as MTP, or for photos, along with charge only function.
And for your second question it appears that some apps downloaded were placed in internal storage and I could not move them :\ I did get my phone's firmware updated with the google play store (awesome!! thanks guys for the recommendation for that! I saw the video but wasn't sure if it applied to me) and I attempted to root it, and I think it worked. I will now test links2sd and see if that helps with the internal storage part without needing to unlock bootloaders and get too messy with extra work.
This is exactly what I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G26R7LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sorry but I do not
***Quick Update!***
I installed links2SD and so far all but youtube moved to the SD card, making my internal storage from 9 to 11.27 free space. I tested the google play store and services since those are major apps that got moved and it works fine!
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Awesome! Thanks for the update! This also confirms that 128 GB cards work in the device. Link2SD was a Godsend for the Xperia Play. When I first bought it in 2011, I ran out of space within the first week.
You can verify your root with Root Checker. If not, I used Kingo Root to root my 78p01 device, so it should work for the W3D as well. The downfall to using Kingo is that it needs to be installed on your PC, and it installs some battery app on the phone and lockscreen that I think is tied to the superuser app that's installed. The root works fine, but after the root is installed, you would want to install another superuser app to grant permissions, as to get rid of the battery app tied to the Kingo superuser app and delete it.
I am currently using AT&T with my 78P01 and they are stating that my IMEI is classifying the phone as 2G only, and as such, I have been only getting 2G, where I used to get 3G, even 3G+. Not sure what happened between now and a few months ago, but must have something to do with their 2G shutdown. I may grab a Straight Talk Sim for a month and see if that changes things. Thanks for the confirm on Network. That had me concerned as well.
I look forward to any more updates you may have.
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Awesome! Thanks for the update! This also confirms that 128 GB cards work in the device. Link2SD was a Godsend for the Xperia Play. When I first bought it in 2011, I ran out of space within the first week.
You can verify your root with Root Checker. If not, I used Kingo Root to root my 78p01 device, so it should work for the W3D as well. The downfall to using Kingo is that it needs to be installed on your PC, and it installs some battery app on the phone and lockscreen that I think is tied to the superuser app that's installed. The root works fine, but after the root is installed, you would want to install another superuser app to grant permissions, as to get rid of the battery app tied to the Kingo superuser app and delete it.
I am currently using AT&T with my 78P01 and they are stating that my IMEI is classifying the phone as 2G only, and as such, I have been only getting 2G, where I used to get 3G, even 3G+. Not sure what happened between now and a few months ago, but must have something to do with their 2G shutdown. I may grab a Straight Talk Sim for a month and see if that changes things. Thanks for the confirm on Network. That had me concerned as well.
I look forward to any more updates you may have.
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Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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Sweet! I missed the Straight Talk Sim in the pic, lol! I read your post and had to re-check it, but I saw it. Those 4G speeds are like heaven compared to what I am getting now. Heck, I will be happy to just have a decent connection since I am only getting one band of 2G at the moment:crying:
Thanks for the update as always!
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Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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I'm pretty excited mine was just shipped out and I'm ready to get it in my hands. Would any one mind doing an Antutu benchmark on the device. And also does it come with NFC?
The_Gatekeeper_ said:
Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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Hi,
I did the test with my W3D. It isn't a little too low the result of Antutu? For now I haven't found Android games that give me problems.
The biggest problem remains the battery. After the 50% drops too quickly.
You have this problem with your W3d?
anthonylp25 said:
I'm pretty excited mine was just shipped out and I'm ready to get it in my hands. Would any one mind doing an Antutu benchmark on the device. And also does it come with NFC?
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Sure thing give me a few minutes and I'll post results! Oh wait looks like I was beaten lol.
Hi,
I did the test with my W3D. It isn't a little too low the result of Antutu? For now I haven't found Android games that give me problems.
The biggest problem remains the battery. After the 50% drops too quickly.
You have this problem with your W3d?
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Honestly I think I do too, but I have kept it charge above 80 since it sits at my desk charging most of the time. When I take it out and let it chill in the car the battery runs out much faster than it should. Maybe there are settings we need to disable on the phone? I also don't think it has an nfc, I'll have to look at the specs again but I don't see it as an option in settings if there is supposed to be one.
It's strange that I feel I don't have most of the discussed problems in this forum. But let me tell you my reasons, why I decided to return the Poco F1.
1. Buggy microphone: the hands free mode has huge problems. There seems to be an unfixed problem with the internal microphones which makes it impossible to have understandable conversations in hands free mode (Skype, WhatsApp). This problem also occurs in the internal voice recording app in interview mode. This probably will be fixed in future versions, but as by now (9.6.14.0, European version) it just doesn't work and I need that function almost every day.
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive. I have an ultra fast U3 SanDisk extreme card with 128 GB, but I can't merge it with the internal drive. Some would say: who cares? Just use it as an external card, whats the point? But just think of losing your phone and someone else has access to all your data on the memory card. Allocating the MicroSD to the internal drive encrypts everything on the card. I do understand the arguments of the manufacturer (speed issues because of fricking slow crappy sd cards), but I don't understand, why they won't leave that function open to experienced users (e.g. within the developers menu).
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps. I don't need and want certain Google Apps, but I can't disable them. I am not even asking for uninstalling, I just want to disable them, but Xiaomi won't let me. It just feels that I don't have control over the phone.
4. The rounded corners are strange: when watching a video you have one side with rounded corners, the other one with, well, normal corners.
5. The task switcher is a step backwards. I was used to switch between apps very quickly using the vertical task switcher. The task switcher on the Poco F1 works horizontally. Seriously? Phones are becoming longer and longer, not wider. I need much more time to switch between apps because I simply don't have a good overview of the open apps.
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime.
7. Bad frequency coverage. Check the specs and compare them to your former phone (I used phonearena). I was shocked when I saw that the Poco F1 has really bad coverage of the available frequencies. I travel to Hong Kong and Japan a couple times a year and use local SIM cards. But looking at the very few supported frequencies, I am afraid I won't have a good reception anymore.
Remark: I have had the Poco F1 for about a week and will return it to the shop. I had a Moto G5 Plus before and will switch back to it again. I am aware of that certain points might not be bugging for some people. I consider myself as an experienced user which some major requirements about functions of a smartphone. If a phone doesn't match most of these requirements, I consider it as crap. This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Ah, and I don't like custom roms. I went through that stuff so many years and spend so many weekends on that. I am not willing to spend my leisure time anymore trying out new roms because something is always not working well.
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It's strange that I feel I don't have most of the discussed problems in this forum. But let me tell you my reasons, why I decided to return the Poco F1.
1. Buggy microphone: the hands free mode has huge problems. There seems to be an unfixed problem with the internal microphones which makes it impossible to have understandable conversations in hands free mode (Skype, WhatsApp). This problem also occurs in the internal voice recording app in interview mode. This probably will be fixed in future versions, but as by now (9.6.14.0, European version) it just doesn't work and I need that function almost every day.
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive. I have an ultra fast U3 SanDisk extreme card with 128 GB, but I can't merge it with the internal drive. Some would say: who cares? Just use it as an external card, whats the point? But just think of losing your phone and someone else has access to all your data on the memory card. Allocating the MicroSD to the internal drive encrypts everything on the card. I do understand the arguments of the manufacturer (speed issues because of fricking slow crappy sd cards), but I don't understand, why they won't leave that function open to experienced users (e.g. within the developers menu).
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps. I don't need and want certain Google Apps, but I can't disable them. I am not even asking for uninstalling, I just want to disable them, but Xiaomi won't let me. It just feels that I don't have control over the phone.
4. The rounded corners are strange: when watching a video you have one side with rounded corners, the other one with, well, normal corners.
5. The task switcher is a step backwards. I was used to switch between apps very quickly using the vertical task switcher. The task switcher on the Poco F1 works horizontally. Seriously? Phones are becoming longer and longer, not wider. I need much more time to switch between apps because I simply don't have a good overview of the open apps.
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime.
7. Bad frequency coverage. Check the specs and compare them to your former phone (I used phonearena). I was shocked when I saw that the Poco F1 has really bad coverage of the available frequencies. I travel to Hong Kong and Japan a couple times a year and use local SIM cards. But looking at the very few supported frequencies, I am afraid I won't have a good reception anymore.
Remark: I have had the Poco F1 for about a week and will return it to the shop. I had a Moto G5 Plus before and will switch back to it again. I am aware of that certain points might not be bugging for some people. I consider myself as an experienced user which some major requirements about functions of a smartphone. If a phone doesn't match most of these requirements, I consider it as crap. This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Ah, and I don't like custom roms. I went through that stuff so many years and spend so many weekends on that. I am not willing to spend my leisure time anymore trying out new roms because something is always not working well.
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Most of the stuff you mentioned are related to MIUI and can be fixed by flashing a stock rom ( custom) which will be available soon. For notch, you've to deal with it as most of the upcoming phones including Moto One includes Notch. Give credit to Apple for this stupid notch. I'm used to it as my main phone is iPhone X so I've been using notch phone from a long time now. Yes, rounded corners on one side sucks.
No hd streaming is still in que to be fixed by Xiaomi. Though I've no idea why people complain about it, I can't really tell difference between the quality what it streams on Amazon Prime and Netflix without HD. May be I'm used to watching videos on iPad so can't tell the difference on small screen.
Coverage is excellent here with this ph. I used to get less than 1mbps with Redmi Note 5 Pro and now I easily get 10-12mbps on 4G.
I don't use microsd card, remind me this is 2018 na? People still use microsd when OEMs offer 128/256gb phs. I've purchased Poco 128GB may be that's why I never thought this ph supports microsd.
No buggy microphone here. May be it's issue with your phone.
Since you're not into custom roms, get One Plus 6 or upcoming 6T. I bet you'll still find reasons to complain about that phone too. That's just human nature. Everybody wants top end hardware by spending less money, nobody realise when you pay less for such hardware you're going to get compromise somewhere be it notch, hd streaming, touch issues, camera etc. No phone is perfect not even the iPhone X.
Good luck with the return.
Ermm which brand phone allowed micro SD to be main drive ?
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Ermm which brand phone allowed micro SD to be main drive ?
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No the main drive, but merged with the main drive. My Moto G5 Plus allows that. It is, as far as I understood, a normal function of Android (since 6.0?) but can be disabled by the manufacturer.
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No the main drive, but merged with the main drive. My Moto G5 Plus allows that. It is, as far as I understood, a normal function of Android (since 6.0?) but can be disabled by the manufacturer.
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I see, this option goes way back then android 6 ,where micro SD card can be the main ,didn't know it's a android feature to merge storage
Sorry but way to much crying about this phone everywhere.
What do u expect for 300 euro in this price range and with those spec u don't find a phone with widevine.
I come from Oneplus and now I know why are people always laughing about the Xiaomi community always complaining.
Maybe it is the price range.. I don't know.
It is not a offensive post to u personally, but everywhere I look there are complains.
Good luck with the return.
Thank you for your feedback. I understand, that people might think that complaining about a 300 USD phone is exaggerated, but on the other side there's also kind of a hype about that phone, so I thought I just let people know what my expectation were and how I feel about the phone.
I intentionally didn't mention the positive things about the phone (and there, fur sure, are good ones). I believe it isn't a bad phone at all. It just doesn't suit my very specific expecations well.
My focus was set on some key features I thought some other people would also want to know about, so this hopefully help them to decide whether to buy the phone or not.
@FTPFreezer, surprised to read a few points in your post - perhaps most surprised when I came to read that you are shifting back to a G5+. I moved from a G5, a bit slower than your phone, granted, but when I came to shift some files from my G5 earlier today after a week with the F1 I was stunned by how sluggish it was. Really, there's no comparison.
Adoptable storage has been a pain in the ass rather than a boon - mine has not failed in the way many G5 users have experienced, but getting data off the card to switch phones is misery. The F1 camera is worlds better. There's no comparison in terms of build quality, the G5 feeling like a toy. Until today I never realised the G5 screen is as poor as it is. Battery life is obviously incomparable.
Miui is not to my taste, but Rootless pixel launcher makes it tolerableme features done nicely. I'll still probably move to a custom ROM, but likely not if it means losing the face unlock.
Face unlock - reminds me how shockingly poor the G5 fingerprint reader is; the Pocophone is bang on every time.
Good luck with the switch back, but I really don't appreciate your reasoning.
Easily disable from playstore head to help and feedback then select delete or disable app and you can disable
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Thank you for your feedback. I understand, that people might think that complaining about a 300 USD phone is exaggerated, but on the other side there's also kind of a hype about that phone, so I thought I just let people know what my expectation were and how I feel about the phone.
I intentionally didn't mention the positive things about the phone (and there, fur sure, are good ones). I believe it isn't a bad phone at all. It just doesn't suit my very specific expecations well.
My focus was set on some key features I thought some other people would also want to know about, so this hopefully help them to decide whether to buy the phone or not.
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Should've just bought a more expensive phone if you have such specific needs. Most people are satisfied with what they got.
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Easily disable from playstore head to help and feedback then select delete or disable app and you can disable
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Have you tried this by yourself or do you just contribute something without knowledge? This is simply not possible on the Poco F1. You can just uninstall all updates, but you are not able to deactivate the app.
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Should've just bought a more expensive phone if you have such specific needs. Most people are satisfied with what they got.
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Why do you say this? Which of my points are related to a higher price? The only one I could think of is the frequency coverage, but other thread in this forum suggest, that Xiaomi might just block them by software.
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Have you tried this by yourself or do you just contribute something without knowledge? This is simply not possible on the Poco F1. You can just uninstall all updates, but you are not able to deactivate the app.
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I did it.. just follow step and disable them
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I did it.. just follow step and disable them
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Then it could be a region related issue. My region is set to HK (because otherwise face unlock isn't possible in Germany). It definately doesn't work like you said. But anyways, I gonna return the phone today, so it doesn't matter much anymore. I'll just keep the G5 Plus for some while.
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Then it could be a region related issue. My region is set to HK (because otherwise face unlock isn't possible in Germany). It definately doesn't work like you said. But anyways, I gonna return the phone today, so it doesn't matter much anymore. I'll just keep the G5 Plus for some while.
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Whether u take or let it go...it doesnt matter to anyone here . M trying to help u out just this ..
LOL with adb you can uninstall all you want
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Why do you say this? Which of my points are related to a higher price? The only one I could think of is the frequency coverage, but other thread in this forum suggest, that Xiaomi might just block them by software.
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A more expensive phone is more likely to match those major requirements of yours, that's all.
@FTPFreezer thank you for your review. I, for one, enjoyed your critique of the product. It's these kinds of review I like to search for before buying a product.
Only the Google Apps thing worries me, personally. I will still be getting the poco phone.
1. Buggy microphone
can't verify that, mine is good
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive
why would you want to do that? if you have to format data even everything on SDcard is gone, UFS is anyway much faster
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps
yes, you can - just use a custom ROM
4. The rounded corners are strange
I have to admit the corners are big but I'm not playing games, so I can live with it
5. The task switcher is a step backwards
not an issues on custom ROM
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime
for what? do you really see a difference at a 6.2" panel? regarding bandwith L3 is enough for me
7. Bad frequency coverage
can't verify that, works good here in austria
I can't help but laugh. This is a 300 hundred dollar phone. This is not the S9+ even though the Poco is faster.
I installed the SD before setting my F1. During setup of Miui 10, it asked me if I wanted to use it for app storage or just as portable storage.
If you were rooted, you could get rid of any app you want. Not sure why this is even an issue. All OEM's stop you from removing apps bundled like Google Duo, play movies etc.
There are hacked versions of Netflix out there that let you play ultra HD shows. The problem is on a 6" screen, not sure what the big deal is.
I get no 4g here in the US on T-Mobile but I've had no issues with sound quality whatsoever.
Sounds to me like a nice S9+ is what u want. Heck, it's only 600 dollars more
Let me say it again, this is an amazing phone for 300 bucks. People will always find negative things to say about any phone.