Hi all...
I recently, and mistakenly, bought the AT&T version of the G Pad 8.0 X.....it was a mistake because I didn't realize I wouldn't be able to use simple dialer and sms apps.
Can anyone PLEASE educate me on one or both of the questions below?
1) What has AT&T done to prevent dialers and sms apps from interacting directly with the LTE interface
2) Is it a certainty that the v521 ROM will not work on the v520? Based on LTE bands supported by each I assume it's different radio hardware but wanted to see if I could get more details from anyone here.
At this point I've thrown away $75 on this tablet because not being able to send and receive sms is a deal breaker for me and I don't know if I feel like going through the hassle of trying to resell it. I'm willing to be a guinea pig in trying to install the v521 ROM on the v520.... IF there's a chance it could work.
Is there any way to receive sms messages from my carrier via data only? I'm told that Hangouts used to have this functionality but no longer does?
Appreciate anyone who will take a moment to share their knowledge....thank you very much folks
Kevin
These devices don't have voice capability. The modem is not configured to do so.
Now for SMS, they do have that ability. If you don't have an SMS app, get one. Googles SMS app, messaging. Blue icon. The tmo ROM has SMS baked in.
I have both the T-Mobile V-521 and AT&T V-520. Actually, I have a working V-521, a broken V-521, and two working V-520s.
I use T-Mobile, and I have been frustrated with the AT&T version's lack of SMS and hotspot. Though I can live without the hotspot, I use SMS a lot, and I'd really like to have it on the AT&T version.
I've tried installing a number of SMS apps on the V-520, and no luck at all. They all act as if there's no hardware available to use for SMS, and give a variety of errors (or no error at all) and do not work for me.
I took apart the broken V-521, and I saw a series of jumpers labeled "V521", "V520" and a few others, though I don't recall which. (I'll take it apart again and see.)
I've wondered if these jumpers turn on/off hardware features, or access different ROMs or other model-specific features.
Would changing the jumper from V520 to V521 give it the "personality" of the T-Mobile version, and activate SMS and hotspot?
I'd be willing to "sacrifice" one of the AT&T tablets, because I don't use it at all, due to the lack of SMS.
I'm also available to analyze either model, at someone's direction, to see what is going on with them.
I'm happy to cooperate in almost any way, to help those of us with the AT&T version get more functionality from it!
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Now that we have s-off and root, is a solution yet to get the phone and dialer to work on the View?
I'll look into it. Have you tried clubtech's patch?
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No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
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No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
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Let us know if you get it running. I'm interested in this too. Thanks.
It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
Yes the sprint phones do not use a sim card. I added the lines to my build.prop file that are listed in the clubtech hack. Although the line
ro.phone.function=1
Was already there. I was able to place a call. The person could hear me and I could hear them although the volume was kind of low. I have not tested it with a bluetooth headset yet. Also keep in mind that I don't know but I believe any calls you make will count as data on your tablet data plan.
My concern was with upsetting sprint... you have your view on a regular view plan and not a phone plan right?
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There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
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Ah, OK, not actually seen one physically.
It must be a surface mount pre-programmed version locked to Sprint.. I can foresee difficulty in getting the phone to work then if it is set to data only on the network.
Edit: Just seen his success...
I'll be following this thread closely as I am on the fence for picking up a Sprint View. If phone calls are somehow enabled on this device then I will most likely pick one up.
As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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You will probably find calls suddenly being blocked at the network then once they find out users are able to make them. They will not give anything for free!
If you want to use the view to regularly make calls, I would advice looking for the thread that tells you how to do this using a market app groove ip and gtalk and gvoice. That is your best bet. While using the view as a phone is possible, DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. This means if you use it and sprint blocks your account don't blame xda nor the members here.
I'm just interested in getting rid of groove ip. I would rather have a phone function than another app running in the background. I actually went from a phone plan to straight tablet plan with groove ip. I only need phone functionality incase the school needs to call me about my kids.
With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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I don't know, I think there is more to it than that, or HTC would have enabled phone calls on the WWE Flyer for all others to use.
I still think HTC had some problem gaining approval with this design from Google for GB and had to leave out the phone function.
Why else disable fitted hardware when it would be a bigger selling point if working? It makes no sense!
For the time being I'm using nettalk. I had to install it on my evo first then copy and send the apk to my view via dropbox. Once it was installed I was able to make "data" calls with my view with no bt headset...mic and speakers worked just fine. This was done before clubtech posted his patch.
So has anyone been able to get the phone function working with clubtech's work around?
I've done exactly what he advised, added those lines to my build.prop and even added unlimited mobile to mobile minutes to my tablet plan (yes it exists, I work at a Sprint store and added it myself) but I'm not able to dial out or receive incoming. The phone service doesn't run, ever, even when trying dial out a call.
I know the GVoice method works but I'd really like to be able to open this up without having to use extra apps.
yes theres a way. I did that on my HTC FLYER 3G. I created a full detailed document on how to do that on HTC FLYER but I used some sources on xda developer forum in order to do that. Here is the document I created, the sources with links are available at the very end of the pdf file. (one of the sources is for evo view)
http://bit.ly/r6x82t
So I have done a lot of googling and I don't think it exists but not sure why not.
I am looking for an android app that allows direct dialing through Google voice (over data not normal minutes). It should be completely possible via XMPP (if I am not mistaken). Ideally it could be highly integrated with the default dialer and be the perfect android VoIP solution.
I really want to move to a data only plan (tmo $30 prepaid 5gb+).
Is something technically preventing this, are there any projects already working on this? Or any developers ready to take a shot I would throw in some money and I am sure a lot of other people would too.
BTW phone is a Samsung Galaxy S II (T-Mobile) SGH-T989 if there are device specific concerns
Found one
Ok so while doing a semi-unrelated search I came across GrooVe IP. Seems to be exactly what I am looking for and seems to have good review. So with that out there anyone know of any others?
Update: been useing it on my SGS2 (T-Mobile) out in Afghanistan and even over a low bandwidth (128kb/64kb) high latency Sat internet connection quality is suprisingly good. Can't wait to see how well it performs over 3g+.
I have an ATT Samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 SGH-i497. I am trying to see if I there is a ROM that I can install on my device to make the GSM calls functioning just as in the Samsung tab 2 10.1 GT-P5100.
Please help...
Same problem with me.
Its hurting that even loading data packages becomes tedious.
I have to remove the sim card and insert it into some phone to do that since here in Uganda, Africa, we use codes to do that eg *100#
then reinsert it back into the tablet to use the data.
Kabbak said:
Same problem with me.
Its hurting that even loading data packages becomes tedious.
I have to remove the sim card and insert it into some phone to do that since here in Uganda, Africa, we use codes to do that eg *100#
then reinsert it back into the tablet to use the data.
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Add me to this request to see if we can make this Samsung Tab2 gsm calling capable.
Thanks
Voice Call Workaround
Sorry I'm late to this party. I recently purchased this tablet on eBay in pristine condition, and it is amazing. I started right away experimenting with voice calling. I purchased a SIM from Straight Talk with the usual unlimited plan (just like I would for a cell phone) and popped it in. The tablet had no problems recognizing the SIM and the phone number on it. Based on the hardware, at least from what I can see, the tablet seems to have the physical ability to handle calls so I suspect the inability to do so is software-related. However, I'm not a ROM expert (nowhere near - just a noob who knows enough to be dangerous), so I didn't feel like taking that risk. So, I found another solution - VOIP.
Since the tablet supports both WIFI and 3G/4G/LTE, a VOIP number that can be carried on those data streams would work. I tested this by creating a Google Voice number, and downloading the new Hangouts dialer app and got everything set up. Sure enough, I am now able to make and receive voice calls using this method. The SIM would ensure that I have data when no WIFI is available. Per the specs, this tablet should support HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100, so T-Mobile's $30/mo 5gig plan seems like a good cheaper option as I don't need the talk minutes anyway.
I know that a native voice solution would be preferable, but, in the meantime, this is a decent workaround that solved my problem, and hopefully could prove useful to someone.
SGH-1497
DO I hate this Tablet?
I got it mainly for the sim. slapped a ST sim in and away I go. See a phone app in ROM Manager See all the would leave me to believe I can make in and out calls on this thing. As of Jan 15 is this a forgotten relic and a crock of stewed crap to mess with to get working? If so Im heading for ebay or so,ewhere I want a 10.1 that I can use ST on and have 4G LTE. Can anyone reply to me where and what I need to make this happen. I just bought this for 100 bucks and I wont smash it into the wall but not real interested in it. With GO SMS it gives me a Straight Talk number and I can text with it but no dialer with a phone app running in the background? geez kick in the purse anyone?
Pls i need custom recovery for samsung tab 2 sgh i497
to day I stated to have problems with my internet on my SGP621 LTE I'm on T-Mobile and i'm getting the connect me messages basically t-mo want's me to get a separate tablet data plan. I was wondering if there is a work around so that I can use my tablet as a regular phone with data internet access without an additional data plan which I would not pay for. is there a way to make my tablet SPG621 to show as the regular Z3 phone and not as a tablet so that I can use the internet 3G/4G LTE thank you:crying:
I think that's just an offer. You don't have to do this. As far as i know you can use your SIM in any device you like. And ... Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact can be considered as a big phaplet.
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to day I stated to have problems with my internet on my SGP621 LTE I'm on T-Mobile and i'm getting the connect me messages basically t-mo want's me to get a separate tablet data plan. I was wondering if there is a work around so that I can use my tablet as a regular phone with data internet access without an additional data plan which I would not pay for. is there a way to make my tablet SPG621 to show as the regular Z3 phone and not as a tablet so that I can use the internet 3G/4G LTE thank you:crying:
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to day I stated to have problems with my internet on my SGP621 LTE I'm on T-Mobile and i'm getting the connect me messages basically t-mo want's me to get a separate tablet data plan. I was wondering if there is a work around so that I can use my tablet as a regular phone with data internet access without an additional data plan which I would not pay for. is there a way to make my tablet SPG621 to show as the regular Z3 phone and not as a tablet so that I can use the internet 3G/4G LTE thank you:crying:
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I agree with nico_las. I use my SGP621 on T-Mobile USA as well, and it's not mandatory I switch over to a tablet plan. It's just an offer you can refuse.
Is there a way to refuse this offer? Like, my data no longer works as of maybe two hours ago, and I am not the only one reporting this. Can I refuse an offer and retain it? I called 611 but as usual the pre-paid support folk never know anything outside of their scripts...
the problem is that t-mo knows is a tablet and the internet wont work, calls ant and text does work but not mms and everything that requires internet, if any body know how to disguise as a phone/phablet like the z ultra by modifying the IMEI or something. thanks
Yes, I am currently Experiencing this Issue as well, and I told T-mobile Rep to stop forcing people like this. I can just sell this phone and buy a note 4, with smaller screen and it will work just fine.....but they basically want to force people into it, so they can make money out of it.
I am interested in how to disguise the tablet as a phone as well.
I really really want to kick Tmobile in the ass and never come back as a customer........but they know other carriers do the same thing......We are at the losing ends
we need to ask to devs if we can get help on this issue. what we need is to disguise out tablet as phone or phablet
I think you're being overly optimistic. I appreciate it. But we barely have support enough on this device to get a proper root, much less ROM support. I feel like it should be possible to pass this off as a normal Z3... But not sure. In any case it will take root at minimum and most likely an unlocked bootloader... Which I don't plan on pursuing until I know I can keep remote play, DRM, cast support, etc.
I hope it happens... And I'm with you... But I think it's a lost cause. I'd like to hear from an actual Dev about it though... Just not a lot of them in the English world with this tablet not on shelves outside of Asia.
Hey guys, a few thoughts.
First, there is chatter about this in 3 or 4 different threads. It doesn't have to be this thread, which I created yesterday, but we should band together and use a single thread for longer-term discussion.
Second, I actually don't think that this is an attempt by T-Mo to gauge more money out of us; we are a tiny percentage of their user base and are probably an attractive demographic for T-Mo in a sense. This is simply bureaucratic disorganization (I think they simply don't know how to provide 'free data for life' without considering the 621 a 'data only device,' damn you all who rallied for that), and unfortunately execs are not going to make an immediate priority of satisfying a tiny percentage of prepaid customers on cheap plans. What I personally expect will happen at some point, T-Mo will act in accordance with its 'uncarrier' mantra and be the first carrier to recognize that there is increasingly no difference between a phone and tablet. They will offer substantially the same plans for any data enabled device and will be the first carrier to officially support "phablets.'
Third, I am also very curious what can be done to trick T-Mo's system, in the mean time. I can say firsthand that altering the device model # inside your build.prop file will do nothing. Switching up the APN, nothing. But I didn't personally get that creative before giving up. One thing to note, on an older device, I downloaded a root app to ltyer my DNS servers (switched from T-Mo to OpenDNS). Within X many minutes of rebooting I could not make phone calls or receive texts and no data icon appeared either, but I did have data and T-Mo was probably unable to meter my data usage. Try at your own risk.
Fourth, *****ing accomplishes nothing. The great thing about buying unlocked, is the ability to switch carriers at the drop of a dime (which is coincidentally what T-Mo deserves from us right now). AT&T has LTE on four frequencies and the 621 supports all of em. I already made the switch to AT&T, and everything is smooth at the moment. And I can always switch back. As a light talker I miss my $30 plan (and the small $$ I had left over in my acct), but $60 for talk, text, and a tetherable 4 GBs of LTE isn't terrible when you can buy 5-10% off discounted refill cards from Calling Mart. Cricket is also on AT&T's network now and $60 will get you 20 GBs of <= 8Mbps LTE, $10 more if you want to tether without worry. I would be curious for an expanded discussion regarding our options, since I am only so familiar with the ins, outs, and possible pitfalls of them.
good one
Would anyone like to test for compatibility/pitfalls/etc on Harbor Mobile? $50/mo for unlimited talk/text/LTE and 3GB tethering on T-Mo's network, purportedly.
https://www.harbormobile.com/plans/
They also have a good looking tablet data plan ($15 for 5GB) that would be more useful if we had dual sim slots.
MetroPCS would be the other competitive T-Mo pre-paid option. Not sure how these companies detect phones/tablets. They don't offer free data for life, which might or might not make a difference.
Possible Solution?
jaime4272 said:
to day I stated to have problems with my internet on my SGP621 LTE I'm on T-Mobile and i'm getting the connect me messages basically t-mo want's me to get a separate tablet data plan. I was wondering if there is a work around so that I can use my tablet as a regular phone with data internet access without an additional data plan which I would not pay for. is there a way to make my tablet SPG621 to show as the regular Z3 phone and not as a tablet so that I can use the internet 3G/4G LTE thank you:crying:
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
I was about to e-mail Tyson, and just saw this posted (by a post-paid customer) to a T-Mo Support thread I had participated in:
"Just got off with customer service with the solution. To fix the problem you need to get a new sim card. The customer service rep said T-Mobile will provide them for free then everything should work fine. What happened is the info on the sim says its a tablet, once the sim info gets changed on T-Mobile's end there is no way to change it back and the only solution is to get a new sim card. Hope this helps you guys."
(https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86423?start=15&tstart=0)
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I was about to e-mail Tyson, and just saw this posted (by a post-paid customer) to a T-Mo Support thread I had participated in:
"Just got off with customer service with the solution. To fix the problem you need to get a new sim card. The customer service rep said T-Mobile will provide them for free then everything should work fine. What happened is the info on the sim says its a tablet, once the sim info gets changed on T-Mobile's end there is no way to change it back and the only solution is to get a new sim card. Hope this helps you guys."
(https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86423?start=15&tstart=0)
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I don't think this is correct. I already got a new SIM for mine because that's what Tmobile support had me do originally. It didn't fix the issue. However I noticed under my account that it had my device listed as a Xperia Z tablet as in the old version when I got the new SIM. So maybe if you change it to a Z3 and get a new one it will work... But I doubt it.
The tech support I most recently talked to said they updated their systems with the Z3TC information and classified it as a tablet so the data won't work unless you get on a tablet data plan. But if I get on a tablet data plan then I can't have phone and text on the same SIM. He said there was no way for them to accommodate both.
And I tried explaining that the only difference between tablet and phone is phone capabilities... Which we have... So it should be a phone.
I see that more and more people are having this problem and being that t-mo knows that our SGP621 is a tablet the only thing to do is to disguise it as something else other then a tablet. I know that phablets do work fine like the xperia z ultra. we need some technical help on doing this guys.
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
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I've got about 5-6 people's info so far, if i could get 10 or so i think we could make some headway here. I have tried SIM swaps, tried using a regular z3 for a couple days and switching back, tried rooting and IMEI changing nothing has worked thus far... this seems like the best chance here.
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I've got about 5-6 people's info so far, if i could get 10 or so i think we could make some headway here. I have tried SIM swaps, tried using a regular z3 for a couple days and switching back, tried rooting and IMEI changing nothing has worked thus far... this seems like the best chance here.
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Are you still looking for folks for this?
I just ordered one and will be trying to use it on Tmo.
Just sent you my contact information, I'm also having the same issue with T-mobile.
Thank,
Scott
tysontthompson said:
I've got about 5-6 people's info so far, if i could get 10 or so i think we could make some headway here. I have tried SIM swaps, tried using a regular z3 for a couple days and switching back, tried rooting and IMEI changing nothing has worked thus far... this seems like the best chance here.
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This won't be a problem on AT&T's network. Why not just switch? For high data users, Cricket has competitive prices, for low use folks there are several mvnos to choose from.
afblangley said:
This won't be a problem on AT&T's network. Why not just switch? For high data users, Cricket has competitive prices, for low use folks there are several mvnos to choose from.
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Does anyone have an update on this? I think I got hit too. My internet stopped working this morning and I've been calling T-Mo and they said they don't know what the problem is.
Looks like, so far, Three are the only network not to have announced they are stocking the Nexus 6P.
I for one am hoping they are just delaying their announcement!
If anyone has any information regarding this matter, please post here.
Don't think three stocked the Nexus 6 at release did they?
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Three did not stock the N6 so very doubtful they will do the 6P
I think a few places never stocked the 6. This time however, everyone except Three are stocking the 6P.
They can't be the only people not to negotiate a contract to sell the 6P, surely!
Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
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Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
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Not good, any more news on this??
No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
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When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
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They don't lock but they do brand. It isn't like the old days, with custom ring tones, colours, loads of extra apps (free trials of aps, or whatever) installed but it's still a custom ROM with settings unique to them, from APNs to the IMS settings needed for VoLTE (and Wi-Fi calling).
If you want to use VoLTE on Three today, or SuperVoice as they call it, you need to flash the Three ROM on your Galaxy S5, LG G4 or the other few devices given access - and requiring a software update.
Apple is the exception. These are never branded and the carrier settings are the same on EVERY single phone. I do wish Google would do something similar with regards to carrier settings, as then every phone on any network could be made to work properly with all the available features.
Given this is Xda, it's worth noting that there are sometimes other ways to get a generic phone to work with VoLTE but it's not something Joe Public would be able to do, or even know they could do. And Three stores have been saying some phones are able to work that can't (and never will, unless they do this inTouch update) as well as saying 4G 800 is a high priority, when the reality is that it's the lowest and you'll only ever use it when 3G isn't available.
There's a dedicated UK thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/uk-nexus-6p-t3213767
Please continue this there. :good:
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