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Hi, I'm wondering which rom you suggest I flash to my nexus 4 device. Paranoid android, or Cyanogenmod?
What I care most about is, battery life and performance. I don't really care about customization.
Which one is better in your opinion? :]
Thank you so much!
OathYvne said:
Hi, I'm wondering which rom you suggest I flash to my nexus 4 device. Paranoid android, or Cyanogenmod?
What I care most about is, battery life and performance. I don't really care about customization.
Which one is better in your opinion? :]
Thank you so much!
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CM12 has a priceless feature of privacy, they perform more or less the same.. Take a look at custom kernels for your device - as those will give you best battery, performance or both - depending on what you need.
I'm personally using CM. Not sure about which one performs better, but I like cm because it gives me the features I want, without cluttering the ROM with features I'll never use. PA and other ROMs are based of cm, so they normally have more stuff than cm, and it just ends up getting annoying. With cm, most of the options are set good to go, so u just need to change a few, like stock, but with a few very unobtrusive additions that are integrated into the system really good. Take for example, root. It's part of privacy guard instead of superuser, which is integrated very well into the os. I haven't really used PA, so I suggest you try both and come to your own conclusion.
If you just want performance, then I'd go with a close to aosp rom.
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
saurabh40629 said:
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
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That is exactly what I was curious about. I see that your android experience as far as custom roms and features goes differs far from mine. I used to install custom roms when i bought my first android smartphone (i9100). tried out almost every rom that was available at the time... from CM to AOKP, Paranoid Android and many others. I now own Oneplus x and had just yesterday installed AOSParadox. my experience with it for now is that it is fluid and seems stable enough for daily use. the only thing I miss is tristate keys. CM13.1 in retrospect had some bugs with the flashlight and with google now(home button)... but maybe it was fixed in the meantime. sudamod, resurrection remix, mokee, aicp where exacly what I wrote about and had too many features that for me are not that useful as a user.
The main reason for writing my post was because I saw a lot of users here and on oneplus forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
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That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
s3r3tin said:
That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
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I believe that both could easily see a boost. Take Boeffla for instance. Makes the device feel an entire tier or two higher in performance then it is with just the stock kernel. As for what I'd like to see INA kernel, here's a list
1. HID Keyboard and CDROM support
2. F2FS support for cache
3. A CAF base
4. Unlocked voltage and clock speed
5. 3.10 instead of 3.4
6. CM 13 support
That's what comes to mind. Boeffla does most things for me and battery life is great but it lacks CM support. AK is pretty awesome in terms of performance enhancements, Franco was amazing back when I used it (last I checked you'd edit a file for configuration versus using an auditor), and Despair is really great
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Oh and something built with the Sabermod toolchain would be pretty swell.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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You see, the thing with custom roms is that you just use what's available. It is difficult to put request in the open.
For instance I like custom stock roms, which totally isn't available. But I'm not in the position to ask for this. The only thing we can do (as non developers) is to support this particular scene, if one day a dev cooks one up. Which for aosp already has been done.
So go ahead and install and try the few aosp and participate with this community, to make better aosp roms. Which eventually will result in more aosp roms.
I have the XT1526 Surnia version, but I am wondering which one of these many many many ROM's in the developmental section is the best for performance. I am currently using Dirty Unicorns, but CypherOS says his is for performance mainly. I don't know, but which is best in your opinion, performance wise? I don't want a lot of options, just barebones MINIMUM apps, and performance tweaks.
Foreshadoww said:
I have the XT1526 Surnia version, but I am wondering which one of these many many many ROM's in the developmental section is the best for performance. I am currently using Dirty Unicorns, but CypherOS says his is for performance mainly. I don't know, but which is best in your opinion, performance wise? I don't want a lot of options, just barebones MINIMUM apps, and performance tweaks.
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I have the moto e 2015 3g "otus"and use the best rom is the ZEPHYR-OS-6.0.1-20160808-otus-v4.3-Krypton, imagine that your version surnia should be just as good, so I recommend it. .
Well , in my opinion , trying almost all roms, the best one until now has been SLIM ROM because it is based on Aosp-Caf and has limited features unlike many other ROMs which r feature rich n hence lag a lot n also huge battery drain is caused. I favor a rom which is light weight like slim which provides performance n battery together. Important point is that slim rom provides amazing battery build as it lasted for one whole day. Just give it a try!
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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There are a lots of benefits of using custom ROM over stock one. Currently I'm using Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 on my rn4. It's fully stable. You can try it yourself.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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For best stability bro, go forward non other than MIUI
Clearly, MIUI are made only for Mi phones, designed to be well..perfectly stable. Now others might against this lol.
Custom roms are stable too, yet miui are far more than that.
Honestly, I see no benefits using stock MIUI against stock rom (or vice versa).
They're just practically the same, only differ in some minimal undistinguishable matters.
Moreover, it the end, just a personal cup of tea.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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bro i have tried ressurection remix, lineage os. Only benefit i see in using custom rom is slightly better performance than miui(and that also you will realise after playing very heavy games otherwise it is ignorable), in terms of features manual customisation is more in custom rom(most in ressurection remix)but I still very much prefer customisation through themes in miui(because i am an anime fan and are tons of attractive anime themes in chinese miui theme store). in terms of stability and battery life i didn't nltice much change(maybe slightly better bettery life in custom rom). But overall i greatly prefer miui because it has much more user friendly feachures than custom rom(which you will soon realise after using custom rom) and because of its attractive themes(mostly anime based).
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bro i have tried ressurection remix, lineage os. Only benefit i see in using custom rom is slightly better performance than miui(and that also you will realise after playing very heavy games otherwise it is ignorable), in terms of features manual customisation is more in custom rom(most in ressurection remix)but I still very much prefer customisation through themes in miui(because i am an anime fan and are tons of attractive anime themes in chinese miui theme store). in terms of stability and battery life i didn't nltice much change(maybe slightly better bettery life in custom rom). But overall i greatly prefer miui because it has much more user friendly feachures than custom rom(which you will soon realise after using custom rom) and because of its attractive themes(mostly anime based).
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It's really nice do read someone opinion based on experience with custom ROMs. I bet that battery performance on custom ROM with custom kernel should be better but in that case...
I'm currenty running beta MIUI 9 and I really enjoy system because I migrated from iOS and if there is no point to move to custom ROM I am fine with it.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
Boomshiva said:
I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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@Boomshiva you said "better memory management". I 'm trying RR rom but I don't see any difference (In the best case 1.841 MB available on my 4GB Ram memory). What kernel could we use?
Waitamin said:
@Boomshiva you said "better memory management". I 'm trying RR rom but I don't see any difference (In the best case 1.841 MB available on my 4GB Ram memory). What kernel could we use?
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By better management i mean the multi tasking part . Apps remains in memory . But miui is very aggressive when it comes to memory .
And why do you care for ram ? Free ram is a waste ram . You should care if you phone struggles with common apps . And you know right android is smart enough to handle this memory thing thank you
Custom roms can give you more space and possibilities
Boomshiva said:
I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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What custom ROM and kernel suits best for normal daily use - I mean internet + facebook/messenger only I think ?
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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MIUI works really well, there's no denying that. I installed xiaomi eu rom a little while back and it worked really well, smooth fast and battery back seemed good. Despite all that, MIUI feels very claustrophobic when you try to navigate through the phone. Notifications are a mess. Everything seems to be crammed into that notification shade.
Needless to say, my sojourn did not last long.
Custom roms give you the freedom to choose from a variety of customisations to stock to barebones. They are light, fast and easy to work with. Only drawback is that sometimes things break in custom roms. You need to have the willingness to work around it when that happens. And there will be bugs, known and unknown both.
Battery life should not be a concern unless there is an unprecedentedly high drainage. People get unusually high SOT by limiting usage to WiFi only and staying on 2G. But in real world, with 2 Sims, 1 LTE and other 3G, 6-7 hrs SOT seems like a good bet.
Performance is at par for all. Stability may be here and there for some roms. The more customisations there are, more are the chances for things to break. You can use less customisation roms, my recommendation would be slim, mainstage os & aosp-caf. For customisations, you can pick any of the rest.
Personally I use from among the three, mainstage being the most favorite. My experience has been that idle drain is really low in slim and mainstage. Rest you will have to use them to pick your go-to roms.
And yes, camera is not the best feature of custom roms. :laugh:
Thank you all, great discussion yes miui 8 is pretty cool in its own way, but i think i will explore more stock like android experience and then miui 9
gedggd said:
Thank you all, great discussion yes miui 8 is pretty cool in its own way, but i think i will explore more stock like android experience and then miui 9
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I think I should just add this point (whether it is a small or big point depends on your own perspective on your own privacy). The point is that one should be very careful about ROMs with embedded "dial home" features. Call me paranoid if you want, but, for me, this means that, for as long as there are good custom AOSP/LOS/CAF ROMs, MIUI is a non-starter.
For further information, read the "Skinny" threads on the Redmi Note 2 forums.
These devices are very competitively priced, and so are great buys - but the very first action should be to change the ROM from MIUI.
Miss those days when I was on the HTC Desire and @LeeDroid customized sense so much that it was perfect and very nice for those days.
I miss a good miui rom with stock notification icons and a working Google smartlock.
There are so much roms for mido but most of the roms is all of the same in performance and design.
We got now substratum but that is just layers not a redesign of some system apps. Like I mentioned before.
Why are there no more custom miui roms?
Is it not possible for developers to enable Google smart lock? Or change the statusbar stock notifications icons time right side?
What is the hold up here?
Yea we got xiaomi EU and few mods but nothing that spectacular.
BTW this is no offense to all those devs workings on mido I just asked myself and this is my first xiaomi phone and on HTC, Samsung roms they are modding the **** out of the stock roms.
TBH at the end of the day you will go and use stock ROM so am now out of flashing custom ROM it's now boring stuff! I rather prefer modified stock ROM like miglobe.com xiaomi.eu multirom.me and what ever and I would love to try paranoid ROM once it becomes official cause official has more features. And most important it has a OFFICIAL TAG which do matter. And taking about custom ROM all are same with a slight or little change in name and features every second nerd or geek wants to be a developer. Overall I can say that it depends upon your requirements to go or not to go. Personally if you hate miui I Mean the UI (I hate it too) than you should go with custom Rom and if you want something new and more scope of customisation. Else if you don't give a **** all you want is a phone for face book Twitter and Instagram and WhatsApp and pornhub.com then stock is for u
I have been using various custom roms on my phones for atleast 5 years. One the common hate items for custom ROM is the inferior battery backup when compared to stock ROM. My recent experience is on Asus Zenfone 2 Laser.
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
schlagg said:
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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Post of the day. :laugh:
schlagg said:
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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This is precisely why I have looked in this thread... fyi... I never intended to use miui cloud service, it was only when I got a message stating 6gb of my personal photos had been upoloaded and that I needed more space!!! like wtf
so, yes I want all miui gone.. but I really like the second space, dont want to lose that, and like has been said, ignoring the miui bit it is a nice bit of software
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With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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+1 from me
Hey here is a site somewhere in a European country that makes a fantastic ROM (beats LOS,RR,AOSP). My cell benched in antutu at over 163000. I am sharing the link. Its a site that has lots of useful tips. Just thought I would share
http://mi-globe.com
Hi
First of all this is not a new rom for our device if you just discovered it , no offense.
With all those tweaks that you made as you said in your second post here , i think it's normal that it can go so high. Also , keep in mind that benchmarks are not really relevant and from a score like that you can experience lags in games/apps you would've said they should work completely fine. It's all about the daily experience and how smooth the rom operates in tasks.
I'm glad i'm seeing such a great score on our device and with the miui smoothness increasing in the latest updates on the developer rom , i think it's awesome . A real flagship experience
I flash for it. Over miupro. Without wipes, not to reinstall all programs. More than 110,000 do not work in antutu.
can u please make a install guide?
and how's your gaming experience?
high frame rate, ultra settings without lag?
"they" didn't make it !
its a copy & paste from here : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-1-11.42918/
I gave up on it eventually lol. I do not know why there are so few ROMs for the Mi note 2. Gaming was average. I change my ROM about once to 5 times a week. Lack of Oreo I do not understand for this cell? LOS I am trying also AOSP slimrom an DotOS. I would love to try ViperOS or any form of Oreo?
For today I am trying hondajohn88 version of LOS