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It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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Hopefully just pre-production issues.
LG actually makes the best OLED panels for TVs that even Sony uses for their TVs. So, there's no reason there should be any quality issues, except LG Display is a "separate" company from the LG company that makes cell phones. However, Google gave them almost $1 billion to get another line up and running to help out with the 2017 Pixel XL. Google used Samsung displays last year, but will be using LG displays this year and LG will be making the 2017 Pixel XL. So, if you are worried, wait a few months until the Pixels especially are in production before buying an LG V30. Because Google will make them straighten out any problems.
FYI, in the reader comments, someone mentioned another reviewer PRAISED the LG V30 display as being excellent. So, the Ars Technica guy may have just gotten a lemon or again, just pre-production issues.
It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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Correct, a sample of one. I don't stare at black screens so uneven lighting doesn't bother me in actual use. Most people have praised the screen. So, as long as it looks good when it actually displaying images, I will be happy.
I know other don't feel the same.
It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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No,it's not disturbing. Most reviewers say it's fantastic. You will find a couple of reviewers will always give critical reviews no matter what.
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
This switch in display tech, along with further refinement of the already slim bezels of the G6, makes the V30’s screen hands down the best LG smartphone screen ever. All colours look lush and gorgeous, especially the blacks and red, and the display and glass back both curve towards the metal frame for that symmetrical “glass sandwich” look that Samsung pioneered.
The V30 ticks just about every smartphone box, including a whole bunch that most people never asked for. It has a large, gorgeous OLED display with slim bezels, cameras that excel in low light situations and the newest mobile processor. It is IP68 water-resistant, comes with hi-fi audio capabilities and can be charged wirelessly.
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http://www.t3.com/reviews/lg-v30-review
Okay, the next thing you'll notice is that brilliant 6-inch screen. LG has switched to using OLED panels, and the result is fantastic
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It's not even 50/50. I can find you 10 positive reviews for every negative one.
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Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
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Yes, my light bulbs tend to turn dark when I turn them off.
These reviewers are using pre-production models, so actual retail won't be any worse and will probably be better. And even with that caveat, it's about 10/1 rave reviews.
Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
Secondly, have you owned any P-OLED screen phones before? I have. Still have em. Their screens get better with each iteration but that banding (and graininess) is still there. OG G Flex - saturated screen bad, grainy 720p. G Flex 2 - Crispy saturated OLED colors noticeable banding, less grain on 1080p. V30 looks great brightness all the way up but....it's 1440p right?
I know the hope is real, but this is a hardware issue. Much harder to figure out than a camera software fix.
Think about this: When the V10 and V20 pre-review units went out, LG never revised their hardware - only the software was updated.
....Like I said I hope I'm wrong.
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Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
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I found plenty comparing LG to Samsung OLED quality. Here's three below.
Then "worst" review is first... The only quibble mentioned on the first review (in one pre production unit) was "low light" issues, not banding nor uniformity. And the first reviewer even mentions LG"s crappy P-OLED efforts years ago and says that's not evident on this LG V30. He praises the current phone display as does the 2nd reviewer and third -- and ALL compare to Samsung's OLEDs, like the S7, S8, S8+.
1) LG V30 initial review: The no-BS flagship
I'm happy to report that the company has made a huge amount of progress over the past two years, to the point where V30's screen is almost as good as Samsung's SuperAMOLED. That sounds like faint praise, but I'm actually more than satisfied with what LG has brought to the table here. It's not Galaxy S8 good, but it's surprisingly close, and that's an achievement in itself.
Samsung is still the king of smartphone displays, there's no doubt about that. But LG's latest screen, at Quad HD+ resolution, looks fantastic and punchy, and unlike some of those older P-OLED panels, is clear enough to use outdoors in bright daylight.
If anything, this display's major weakness is in low light. It has an unfortunate tendency to crush shadow details at lower brightness levels, to the point where dark areas become illegible — and that's not great if you're watching Netflix by candlelight, or trying to judge exposure in a low-light photo. This is a disappointing holdover from older OLED efforts, and it's easily fixed in software by simply raising the floor for brightness, but that's not exactly ideal.
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The display, despite some low-light issues, is a step beyond any previous LG phone in terms of quality and daylight legibility. The size is near perfect for me, providing an expansive display in a more ergonomic handset than Samsung can currently offer.
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The V30's going to have its work cut out going up against the Note 8s and Pixels and iPhones of the world when it launches. But for the moment, it's easily among the best Android phones I've used, and has every chance of being a sleeper hit for late 2017.
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2) LG's Upcoming V30 May Be Its Best Smartphone Yet
“Is that the new Samsung phone?” I’ve been asked that several times the past few weeks, as I’ve been testing out LG’s upcoming V30 smartphone. And I get it, as the phone is thin, black-fronted, sleek, large, and has rounded edges with a big screen that covers a massive area. No doubt that at quick glance, the resemblance to what I've seen of the Samsung Galaxy Note8 in photos is close.
And because I regularly use a two-year-old Samsung phone, I’ve noticed that the similarities extend beyond sheer looks. For instance, the V30 has a vibrant screen. It’s the best one I’ve seen on an LG phone yet. Colors are intense while blacks are pitch dark. Photos truly pop -- something that I find beautiful in all of the latest Samsung models but lacking in recent LG phones. In this case, LG attributes that radiance to “QHD+ resolution” plus a 6-inch OLED display. Apparently, self-lighting pixels help generate infinite contrast. Sparing you the tech jargon, it’s just a terrific display that can be adjusted to be very bright -- although it doesn’t quite max out as bright as the display on my Samsung.
This makes looking at photos and videos a pleasure.
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3) LG V30 hands-on: Believe the hype
LG is back in the game
LG has talked a lot about the improvement in image quality as it switches from LCD to OLED in the V30. For me, the six-inch, Quad HD+ display (2880 x 1440) is one of the handset’s best elements. The colors look bright and vivid, almost popping off the screen – watching HDR YouTube content on it is breathtaking.
I’ve found the contrast between black and white makes reading text so good that I’m now using the V30 instead of my iPad Air 2 to peruse web articles. The phone's screen trounces my Galaxy S7 Edge, and while I only compared the two briefly, I also preferred it to the S8+.
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And after using it for about a week, I still got that “wow” feeling every time the gorgeous display came to life.
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So, there's three specific comparisons to Samsung, talking specifically about the display and how GREAT it is. You want more, I'll give them to you.
Now two more facts...
1) Google PIXEL XL2 will have the same LG OLED display as found in the LG V30.
2) LG Display’s OLEDs Coming on Premium Phone from Huawei, OPPO, Vivo and Xiaomi
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/09/...coming-premium-phone-huawei-oppo-vivo-xiaomi/
Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
The Simple said:
Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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You make a good point here. If Google is using lg's P-OLED panels. Then they seem to be good enough. I'm taking all this news with a grain of salt. I'll wait till the V30 actually launches in the US and US reviewers start reviewing production models.
Funny thing is that reputable tech reviewers like MKBHD, Pocket now, Mr. Mobile, etc have had nothing but praise and thye all had pre production models. I usually don't trust all these others tech sites as they are biased most of the time or too critical/take it out of proportion.
We'll see how the pixel is received and I can tell you that most of these site won't says anything about the pixel's display.
Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
Actually, the screen on the Nexus 6 was the main appeal. It was gorgeous at the time and it might still be my daily driver if it only had SD.
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Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but let me tell you a story. I work professionally in broadcast TV, on the technical side. I know about video, and now specifically about HD video. My experience includes not only content creation but QC at the highest levels for global #1 brand.
We have the BEST equipment, the best video displays -- so I know what's good and what's crap. I watch HD video for a living you might say. Back in early 2008, I personally bought my first HD TV, a 60" Sony Bravia 1080p. It was FANTASTIC. In the years since, I've replaced it with another 60" TV, but this story is about that Sony. I did my research, and I bought that TV because it was the best TV for the money at the time. (I couldn't afford Panasonic plasma back then.)
In a forum much like this one, there were a few OCD people who found issues with that specific model Sony Bravia 1080p TVs. Light leakage, banding, blah, blah, blah. One guy took back his TV THREE TIMES to get replacements. Yet, that year, THAT TV model won Best HD TV of the Year award. I kept my TV for 6 years, finally replacing it in 2014 when the technology got so much better. There was NOTHING wrong with that TV.
So, where's the disconnect? I think some people look for flaws that aren't there and find them. Looking through the threads, these same people seem to take back ALL their TVs. I don't know why, and I don't want to disparage them. Maybe it made them feel superior to see flaws that weren't there.
But remember, I know more about video displays than they do, and how good HD video should look (FROM THE SOURCE!). Seeing that TV in my living room looking at the exact same video I had seen at the source back at work, I knew what looked "good" and what didn't. That TV looked fantastic. So, I think there were other issues going on than the actual TV. (Yes, you have to set up all HD TVs -- tweak the settings. You can't just use them out of the box, or you often have cartoonish skin tones. But these people also claimed extensive knowledge in how to set up a TV, so it wasn't that.)
Yes, there will be lemons in a production run of a million units, but those occasional lemons don't tarnish the whole model. That guy that took three back, I'm very skeptical he got three bad TVs in a row and I got the only "perfect" one. You know?
It's my profession, so video is very important to me. But right now, I have to say I take professional reviewers word over "reports" from South Korea. And if Google and many others are using LG OLED displays, and Google is using it for their XL flagship this year, they must have great quality.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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See above. That's not to say there may not be early production issues, but U.S. units will be shipped later so it should be all straightened out. I'm just VERY skeptical of when a few people find "problems" like this. Then when you look at their history, they are the only ones who seem to be plagued with these problems over and over.
You got me all wrong. You can do whatever profession or job you want, doesn't make you an expert because you work with certain equipment. Car salesman work with cars all day long, doesn't make them experts on engines.
I know what I look for because I know what I pay for, I know my first s8+ had red tint on the top right side of the screen. This one don't, I've looked and looked on this one, can't find it. You can't find something that isn't there. But if something's there and you look for it, you'll find it.
Either or, to each their own.
I had a perfectly fine LG V20 (5.7" screen) on Sprint. I just came home with a Samsung S9+ on Xfinity Mobile (Verizon) and am a little disappointed. The screen looks beautiful, but what the heck it's smaller than my LG V20! It's the same length, but it's smaller in width.
The curved edges are annoying and stupid. When you have YouTube on, part of the video goes around that curve and when outside there's a glare across the whole length of the screen where the curve is.
I'm gonna keep the phone because I wanted the latest Android and want to use Google DayDream.
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I had a perfectly fine LG V20 (5.7" screen) on Sprint. I just came home with a Samsung S9+ on Xfinity Mobile (Verizon) and am a little disappointed. The screen looks beautiful, but what the heck it's smaller than my LG V20! It's the same length, but it's smaller in width.
The curved edges are annoying and stupid. When you have YouTube on, part of the video goes around that curve and when outside there's a glare across the whole length of the screen where the curve is.
I'm gonna keep the phone because I wanted the latest Android and want to use Google DayDream.
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I also came from a v20, which lagged horribly. When I got the case, I thought Amazon sent me a s9 case instead of the plus!
While the phone itself is slightly smaller, keep in mind there's less bezel, and the 5.7 vs 5.9 is measured diagonally. Before my v20, I had a Nexus 6 which was going from a 5.96 to 5.7 inch screen and honestly it was about the same size. Measuring diagonally is the key here.
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I had a perfectly fine LG V20 (5.7" screen) on Sprint. I just came home with a Samsung S9+ on Xfinity Mobile (Verizon) and am a little disappointed. The screen looks beautiful, but what the heck it's smaller than my LG V20! It's the same length, but it's smaller in width.
The curved edges are annoying and stupid. When you have YouTube on, part of the video goes around that curve and when outside there's a glare across the whole length of the screen where the curve is.
I'm gonna keep the phone because I wanted the latest Android and want to use Google DayDream.
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I don't understand this post. Are you saying the screen looks smaller or actually is smaller? The s9+ screen is 6.2" so it is definitely bigger than the v20.
The screen is gorgeous but I agree about the curved edges. They are a terrible design that actually takes away from the screen experience.
Don't you think the curved edge can be a bit odd? Isn't it a form of visual distortion？
The curved edge doesn't bother me at all, and it allows the phone to be narrower, which makes it easier to hold on to. But no single phone or design is going to make everyone happy. If your only goal is to have Orea and Daydream, you'd be better off with a Pixel, I think.
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The curved edge doesn't bother me at all, and it allows the phone to be narrower, which makes it easier to hold on to. But no single phone or design is going to make everyone happy. If your only goal is to have Orea and Daydream, you'd be better off with a Pixel, I think.
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The curved edge bothers me only because there's a line of glare all the way across the phone where the sun hits the curve. Otherwise it's not that big of a deal in everywhere else but my car. I can't get a Pixel. I have Xfinity Mobile (Verizon).. it's freakin free (as long as you have Xfinity internet service).
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I don't understand this post. Are you saying the screen looks smaller or actually is smaller? The s9+ screen is 6.2" so it is definitely bigger than the v20.
The screen is gorgeous but I agree about the curved edges. They are a terrible design that actually takes away from the screen experience.
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Yep it does look smaller. I just measured.. looks are deceiving I guess.
S9+: 2 5/8" wide x 5.5" tall
LG V20 (not counting that tiny second screen): 2 11/16" wide x 5.0" tall.
I just realized when I originally compared the two, I had the phones side by side to measure with the screen off.. I totally forgot about the tiny second screen on the LG V20, which when off, looks like it's one big screen. That's where I went wrong.
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I also came from a v20, which lagged horribly. When I got the case, I thought Amazon sent me a s9 case instead of the plus!
While the phone itself is slightly smaller, keep in mind there's less bezel, and the 5.7 vs 5.9 is measured diagonally. Before my v20, I had a Nexus 6 which was going from a 5.96 to 5.7 inch screen and honestly it was about the same size. Measuring diagonally is the key here.
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Hey I had a Nexus 6P also. Unfortunately I cracked the screen and tried to replace it myself. I bought the kit on eBay to replace it, which came with tools to open the case, which you had to heat up with a hair dryer. Holy crap was that hard to open and holy crap did I damage the appearance of the phone LOL.
My mistake was comparing the LG V20 and the S9+ with the screens off.. I forgot about the LG V20 second screen, so that's what made it appear larger.
I never had any issue with LG V20 lag, but maybe because I Dirty Santa rooted pretty soon after I got it. I then uninstalled a bunch of crap.
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The curved edge bothers me only because there's a line of glare all the way across the phone where the sun hits the curve. Otherwise it's not that big of a deal in everywhere else but my car. I can't get a Pixel. I have Xfinity Mobile (Verizon).. it's freakin free (as long as you have Xfinity internet service).
Yep it does look smaller. I just measured.. looks are deceiving I guess.
S9+: 2 5/8" wide x 5.5" tall
LG V20 (not counting that tiny second screen): 2 11/16" wide x 5.0" tall.
I just realized when I originally compared the two, I had the phones side by side to measure with the screen off.. I totally forgot about the tiny second screen on the LG V20, which when off, looks like it's one big screen. That's where I went wrong.
Hey I had a Nexus 6P also. Unfortunately I cracked the screen and tried to replace it myself. I bought the kit on eBay to replace it, which came with tools to open the case, which you had to heat up with a hair dryer. Holy crap was that hard to open and holy crap did I damage the appearance of the phone LOL.
My mistake was comparing the LG V20 and the S9+ with the screens off.. I forgot about the LG V20 second screen, so that's what made it appear larger.
I never had any issue with LG V20 lag, but maybe because I Dirty Santa rooted pretty soon after I got it. I then uninstalled a bunch of crap.
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I Nad a Nexus 6 not a 6P. It hit EOL so I wanted to upgrade. Got the v20 and had lag issues after about a month. It was constantly out of ram, and ran hot all the time (which made the processor get throttled). Those issues could be solved running an AOSP based rom, but you lost 2nd screen support, and until fairly recently, the wide angle lens support on the front camera. The two very things that got me to buy the v20 in the first place. I was resetting my phone monthly and rebooting daily, sometimes more than once.
I will say my s9+ typically sits at 1-1.5g of ram free. So clearly with what I run, 4gb of ram just wasn't enough, however, I trust my phone to be smart enough to kill apps in the bg before it's down to 384mb of free ram. Closing them myself would typically stop the lag. This isn't something I should need to do. It's a smart phone. It should be smart enough to know if something hasn't been used in 6 hours, that is safe to close it because I'm low on ram.
All that said, I love the 9+. I do have some issues using a swipe style keyboard with the curved screen. Part of it is the curve, and part I think is my Tempered Glass (Bodyguardz). I don't think it's sitting quite all the way, so sometimes it doesn't register touches especially on the lower left side. I'm about 90%certain that's the issue. There are obviously other things to get used to going from LG ui to Samsung Experience (although I am using Nova Launcher), but all in all, I'm glad I upgraded.
I noticed that the curved corners cut off part of the screen. I'm playing a game and part of it gets cut off.
Today I used adb (there's a post here) to remove bloatware without root. Fantastic post. It's the only reason I even wanted root. Phone boots quicker and stuff like Facebook, Samsung Messanger, etc are gone.
Just purchased the S9 + and the first thing i notice is the screen is a huge finger print magnet which to some might be expected. However, Iam coming from an Iphone X (which Samsung made the screen) and its far better at hiding your finger prints!
Seems strange that Samsung have arguably made a better all around display for the opposition then they did for their own flagship!
I don't notice the S9+ screen to be particularly bad in terms of fingerprints. The back, for sure, but not the screen. No worse than any other phone I've used.
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I don't notice the S9+ screen to be particularly bad in terms of fingerprints. The back, for sure, but not the screen. No worse than any other phone I've used.
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I guess its not that bad but when compared to my iphone x . The Iphone def comes out on top! Its just way superior at hiding fingerprints! I actually had no idea how good it was ay hiding them until i used the s9! I have also noticed that the Iphone display looks better under sun light / day time in general! The samsung screen is glossy and shows reflections more making the display just a tad more difficult to enjoy under sun light then the iphone!
Iam astonished that the s9 display is considered better then the iphones to be honest! Even video playback on the iphone x is better!
To each his own. I have no problem using the S9+ in bright sunlight, no issues with fingerprints and videos look great. You do know that Samsung makes the iPHone X screen, right? Same technology.
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To each his own. I have no problem using the S9+ in bright sunlight, no issues with fingerprints and videos look great. You do know that Samsung makes the iPHone X screen, right? Same technology.
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Yeah iam aware of that! Thats why iam slightly surprised! The S9 display is great! Its just that it has a more glossy finish compared to the iphone x so my own experience has been that the iphone x hides fingerprints a little better and performs a little better under sun light also!
I just looked really hard at my S9+ (which I've used all morning), and I can't see anything that looks like a fingerprint no matter what angle I look at it in the light. In fact I deliberately mashed my finger on the screen, and couldn't see a print left from that either. Maybe my fingers have dried out .
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I just looked really hard at my S9+ (which I've used all morning), and I can't see anything that looks like a fingerprint no matter what angle I look at it in the light. In fact I deliberately mashed my finger on the screen, and couldn't see a print left from that either. Maybe my fingers have dried out .
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Even under light? Thats nuts! I see lots on mine! Its no worse then most devices. I just personally found the iphone x to handle things a little better which surprised me as the display is made by samsung
Some people have reported the lack of the olephic (or however its spelled) coating being not there or coming off shortly after purchasing the s9/s9+. If you take it to a Samsung store or send it in, they reportedly replace the screen and affected people aren't having problems after that.
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Some people have reported the lack of the olephic (or however its spelled) coating being not there or coming off shortly after purchasing the s9/s9+. If you take it to a Samsung store or send it in, they reportedly replace the screen and affected people aren't having problems after that.
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Its not a huge issue! I dont think i would send it back and i would doubt there is anything wrong with the coating etc Its actually fine but im just pointing out that the iphone x is def better when it comes to finger prints! The s9 display is alot more glossy / shiny so it reflects everything and under light can make it a little more difficult to read text etc when compared to the iphone x but its a minor enough issue for me personally!
What a troll gtfo
I had the Mate 20 at launch and ended up returning it for the screen bleed issues, I decided at that point to switch to the Note 9 but have always had half an eye on the Mate. I really enjoyed but could not past the screen issue and bugs at the time.
I was always pretty confident that the screen issue and other bugs would work themselves out but the one annoyance that I am less hopeful of Huawei fixing/improving is the always on display which in it's current form it is IMO pretty useless. The reason I doubt it will improve is it has not changed at all from last years Mate 10 pro which points to it being something that is not high on Huawei's list of priorities. Honestly if they did put a proper AOD on there I'd probably pick one up again.
What do you think? Will they improve it all or will we have to wait for next years Mate 30?
The screen bleed issue was never a defect--screen bleed is normal with a folded OLED display. Samsung phones including the Note series do not use folded OLED displays.
Your long post is pretty pointless since you don't give any indication of what you think is wrong with the AOD on the M20P and what you would consider an improvement.
I'm fine with the AOD on my phone but I haven't had a Samsung phone in a few years. You might be looking at differences between Touchwiz (is that still Samsung's Android skin?) and EMUI.
Neither Samsung nor Huawei phones run stock Android. If you are looking for a Samsung specific software mod it isn't likely to turn up on Huawei phones.
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The screen bleed issue was never a defect--screen bleed is normal with a folded OLED display. Samsung phones including the Note series do not use folded OLED displays.
Your long post is pretty pointless since you don't give any indication of what you think is wrong with the AOD on the M20P and what you would consider an improvement.
I'm fine with the AOD on my phone but I haven't had a Samsung phone in a few years. You might be looking at differences between Touchwiz (is that still Samsung's Android skin?) and EMUI.
Neither Samsung nor Huawei phones run stock Android. If you are looking for a Samsung specific software mod it isn't likely to turn up on Huawei phones.
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Most always on displays show more than just phone calls and sms messages. I'd like to see notifications from other apps. It's not a major deal for me but it would be nice. It's not just Samsung phones that implement a better aod experience. Like I said I'm not gonna ditch the phone because of it but it would be nice if they allowed it to show more notifications.
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No 3rd party app support is what I was referring to, so whatsapp, email (even with the built in app), Facebook, Twitter, etc etc so not show on the always on display, makes it pretty pointless IMO, YMMV.
It was not the reason I returned the phone of course but my time with the M20 proved to me how much the AOD is a feature I really appreciate. LG, Samsung and Google all have very good AOD's.
The last Google phone I had was the Pixel XL which I don't think had AOD or an AMOLED screen.
Do Google, Samsung and LG AODs show full notifications or app icons when you get notifications?
This is the first phone I have used with AOD so I have nothing to compare it to.
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The screen bleed issue was never a defect--screen bleed is normal with a folded OLED display. Samsung phones including the Note series do not use folded OLED displays.
Your long post is pretty pointless since you don't give any indication of what you think is wrong with the AOD on the M20P and what you would consider an improvement.
I'm fine with the AOD on my phone but I haven't had a Samsung phone in a few years. You might be looking at differences between Touchwiz (is that still Samsung's Android skin?) and EMUI.
Neither Samsung nor Huawei phones run stock Android. If you are looking for a Samsung specific software mod it isn't likely to turn up on Huawei phones.
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The green hulk screen was absolutely a defect. And my replacement does not have it, nor does my wife's Note 9. a slight hue around the curved edges with the polarizer can be normal, however Samsung has seemed to figure this out on their curved screens. The green was not a product of a curved polarizer. It was something else. And progressively got worse over time. the curves polarizer creates a different color view from an angle. this is what you see when you have a white background and tilt the screen left and right. It happens less on Samsung screens.
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No 3rd party app support is what I was referring to, so whatsapp, email (even with the built in app), Facebook, Twitter, etc etc so not show on the always on display, makes it pretty pointless IMO, YMMV.
It was not the reason I returned the phone of course but my time with the M20 proved to me how much the AOD is a feature I really appreciate. LG, Samsung and Google all have very good AOD's.
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I wouldn't bet on the always on display changing.
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The last Google phone I had was the Pixel XL which I don't think had AOD or an AMOLED screen.
Do Google, Samsung and LG AODs show full notifications or app icons when you get notifications?
This is the first phone I have used with AOD so I have nothing to compare it to.
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Yes, other phones do present more info, but I've not used it too much
I had the original pixel XL, and I'm pretty sure it did have an OLED screen. I think the always on display was an option, but it's been a while so I'm not 100%.
Would be also nice to have clocks with different time-zones on the AOD, like samsung does it...
I don't think we'll see added support for this as AOD will rely on running a process for each app in the background. As most of you know, that isn't the Huawei way and probably explains why it doesn't exist already.
yes huawei focuses on the screen resolution from the previous one mobile..
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I don't think we'll see added support for this as AOD will rely on running a process for each app in the background. As most of you know, that isn't the Huawei way and probably explains why it doesn't exist already.
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That actually makes sense thinking about it. Shame.
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So I currently own a Tab S4, Note 10+ and Note 8 and I've been impressed with the AMOLED screen. Today I got a Tab S6 and I'm severly disapointed by the screen quality. Compaired to the other AMOLED displays, this looks like an old LED panel, pretty bad quality no deep blacks, low contrast and the same image looks totally different over the two Tab screens. Additionally, when something comes up that blurs the background, the effect is more like a severly reduced pallet count rather than the normal blurring effect.
Is this normal for the Tab S6 or is this a bad unit?
I've also had trouble with the under screen finger print scanner not registering fingerprints, so I'm thinking faulty...
I haven't had any problem with the screen nor the fingerprint. Might be a bad unit.
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
Come from the tab s3 have an s10 plus as my daily phone looks just as good as the s10 plus in my opinion.
Nope it isn't
I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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Yeah sounds like a bad screen....I would take it back.
The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
Apparently there are a lot of people having uniformity issues with their devices and there doesn't seem to be one free of defects. As always it's the OLED lottery! Exchange until you're satisfied.
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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We are all techies in this forum the average user would probably not even notice if the backlight was uneven especially if they have come from an old non OLED device I think that's probably part of the issue
Jeffro64 said:
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
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Totally different look that gnus hooked people up on, and milliards of nobbs saying that amoled is way superior tehnnologi. Now it decided to turn around and present natural colour palette (with uneven wrinkled display to boot), i agree that it can be not so good to look at it after vivid
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Unsatisfying black levels? How is this possible? Black should be totally black LOL xD
Do you mean the grey color or something near black? Or you guys really talk about true black color? ( for example when booting up the device )
True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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No idea - I came straight from the SM-T800.
tab s4 has a better screen
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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No, I'm not concinved there are any perfect displays. I still have one corner that's darker, honestly this experience has put me off Samsung. As soon as there's an Android tablet with better specs I'm done with this, I might be done with Samsung to be honest, the punch holes in their new phones are horrible and they're overpriced..
What's the best way to check the uniformaty of the panel in the S6? I don't believe I've got any issues but better safe than sorry!
Tab S4 much better will return the s6 I just bought as you can see grey in blackboard in so.e videos which you don't on the tab S4. Hopefully replacement will be better.