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This post is about getting great battery life for the average, every-day user. It is not inclusive or exhaustive, so it will reference other posts. What is talked about is what I did, the user-level stuff, explained in a more user-friendly fashion than some of the more diagnostic-focused posts out there (still invaluable reading, though).
Note: I originally wrote this for the Hyperdrive ROM on GS4 thread, but I've had many requests to break it out into a separate [GUIDE] post and update it here for ease of subscribing and discussing. Also note, that therefore, this should be considered sort of Android 4.2 specific and may not apply to all versions of Android. So, here it is. I'll link the old post to here shortly.
Preface
Okay, I'm writing this because I believe that @sbreen94 @eschelon @iceandfire @Imoseyon @TrevE and @ktoonsez all have done awesome, awesome dev work from which I have benefited. There are SO many other devs, as well. These are some from whom I directly benefit, regularly, daily, or did at one time. If you want a name added to the list, I'll update my post. This post, though, is sort of Hyperdrive specific since @sbreen94 has added a few tweaks that make it SO EASY to address some major offenders of ... sucking the life out of your battery.
Why do I mention this? Because does anyone truly think that a ROM dev or Kernel dev, compiles code, puts it on their device, runs it for days/weeks, validates it with experienced, community testers, and then releases it, all the time thinking, "well, the battery life sucks, but I'm gonna push this out anyways."??? NO! So, then, WHY does every ROM/Kernel thread have post after post, of people saying “Hey, I loaded this ROM and my battery life sucks now.” Do you REALLY think it's the ROM/Kernel?
We also have those that think they have no apps loaded, or “only 3, 4, 5, or whatever number” - so it can't POSSIBLY be an app! If you think that, then do this, Wipe your Dalvic Cache, reboot your phone, and tell me the number of apps it says Android is now optimizing. That is the number of apps you have on your phone, not the number you personally loaded. That means each one of those is a potential culprit for causing battery drain.
BTW – at one time or another, I've probably been guilty of every of the above mindsets. So, I'm not calling YOU out, if YOU are reading this and think that I am. I'm just saying, it's not the ROM, and it's not the Kernel.
Background Reading
The below two threads had everything I needed to know to get started increasing my battery life. I, probably like many reading this, had for a long time followed along, envious of screenshots of people getting those 3, 4, 5+ hours of screen time, and day+ or days of battery. After reading these threads, doing the analysis, and basically just changing some app settings, I can now get the 4-5 hours of screen and full day of battery out of my GS4. Kernel doesn't have much effect, ROM doesn't have much effect, most all of them do what they're designed to do, and do it well. Sweet.
In the next section, Real World Battery Saving, I'll explain what I did, so if you want to skip the background stuff, you can.
These two threads contain basically everything you need to know about improving battery life. They have great details about diagnostics, what's what, etc. What many threads/posts like these sometimes lack, is, the straight-forward answer of “This is what you should do after analyzing x, y, z.” That's what's in the Real World Battery Saving section of this post.
[APP][2.1+][09 Sept. - V1.14] BetterBatteryStats
[GUIDE] Wakelocks Definition and how to prevent them
Read those threads, and do some analysis, and the majority of what I've posted below you'll figure out on your own. If you just wanna jump into fixing things without the above understanding, then just go to the next section. Provided there aren't any seriously misbehaving apps on your phone, you should be able to get great results without becoming a Wakelocks, Alarms, Deep Sleep, etc., expert.
Real World Battery Saving
For those of you that don't want to read too much more about the analysis of apps, etc., to get to better battery life, here's the summary of what's in the section below:
Minimize screen brightness
Disable all Push
Disable all system sounds (Dialing keypad tone, Touch sounds, Screen lock sound, Haptic feedback)
Install Xposed Framework and use:
Greenify Donation (Experimental features)
NLPUnbounce
Greenify any app that you don’t need to notify you of things - Note: If you pay for Greenify Donation and use Xposed, you can still get alerts from any GCM-enabled app (look for the blue GCM icon next to apps in Greenify)
Greenify every Google app (except Voice and Hangouts, both of these may significantly delay or prevent proper message notification, despite being GCM-tagged in Greenify, and they seem to behave okay on their own)
Uninstall GMail (use any other client with IMAP)
Disable all GPS (enable as necessary upon use) Note: I really don't do this anymore. With apps under control with Greenify, I just leave my GPS on and let apps use it when necessary. I have noticed that GPS will stay active during Airplane mode, though, so as not to have my phone dead upon landing, I generally always turn off GPS when in the air.
Disable the autostart of almost everything, at almost any time, on an app-by-app basis. AutoStart Check delivers in spades for this function, at no charge, though, I recommend donating (as I do for all apps here, I have either donated or bought them all, Lux, Greenify, etc.). Note: With Greenify, I no longer worry as much about stopping apps/services from auto-starting. I do still use Xposed plugin BootManager to prevent certain apps from starting, mostly just to increase boot speed (or so I feel like it might). I don't use AutoStart Check at all anymore.
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Note: Required app functionality. You don't have to use these if you know another way to do it. But, to accomplish what I recommend, there are 3 key apps you absolutely must have. I'm not going to explain them all in great detail, as there are plenty of other places that go into great depth on all of them. The 3 essential apps that I use to increase battery by more than 50% are:
Lux (Pro - I'll explain why below)
Greenify
Xposed Framework
In general:
You want your phone to sleep when not in use.
You want apps to not be doing anything when you're not using them.
You want your screen to only ever be as bright as it needs to be, no brighter (including, off when you're not looking at it).
Display Brightness
Lux – Get it here Lux Auto Brightness
Thread here: [APP][2.3+] Lux Auto Brightness 1.51
Update: After posting this, and getting a lot of questions/comments that Lux doesn't really rock like I think it does, I checked it out on a phone without using the Pro version. Okay, I agree, the free version really doesn't deliver. It doesn't poll right, and you can't really set your custom lighting scenarios and lock them in correctly without using Lux Pro. Basically, if you want to save tons of battery life without a lot of constant manual intervention, you're going to have to purchase Lux.
Screen uses more battery than anything. You can do all kinds of things to address this, for me, Lux has been a (battery) life saver. It's easy, it reads the ambient light in your environment. Open its dashboard, slide the slider to the brightness that works for you at that lumen level, hold down the link button in the middle, and there you have it, locked in for those conditions. You only have to do this a few times and you now have custom lighting profiles that fit your eyes' needs under all conditions. Note, sometimes, when waking the phone in the sun, you'll have to wait a few second for Lux to activate and bring the screen up bright enough. This means that Lux is behaving extremely well and not constantly running in the background (Wakelocks) sucking up battery.
Applications
For applications, firstly, if you have an app that has Push available, disable it. Nothing keeps your phone from deep sleep like a Push-enabled application. If you can't wait 5/10/15 minutes for updates, then you can't achieve maximum battery life. Sorry, I don't make the rules of Android app-physics, I'm just sharing them with you.
In my mind, I think of applications in categories. I guess, I have 4 now.. I started with 2. Point being, there are different apps that behave differently so you treat them differently with different solutions for extending your battery life.
Category 1 Apps I want running and want notifications from them. When configured properly, they generally do not misbehave and eat my phone's battery
Category 2 Apps that I cannot seem to control, regardless of their settings, but I still want to be able to use, but getting regular or instant updates from them is not that important to me
Category 3 Apps behave without any special settings and without any Greenification. Just load them, run them, use them, don't worry about them. I haven't seen them cause any sort of bad battery drain.
Category 4 Apps are apps you DO think are vital/desirable (to you) but cannot control their battery consumption with mere settings. For those, only the developer can help you, or you have to accept the battery loss that app's notifications bring with it.
Category 1 apps, well-behaved when configured properly, along with the settings I used to make them behave well and still deliver their updates to me.
Corporate E-mail: Built-in e-mail, TW or AOSP. Disable Push for any account, use Priority settings for 15 minute interval on work days. Non-prioirty times set to 1 hour.
Maildroid: For every account, you must do this separately, under Preferences / Advanced – Connection Management, select first account, the rule (usually 1. Default), Connection Management, Wi-Fi: Close connection when I exit mailbox, GPRS, 3G: Close connection when I exit mailbox, Interval to check mail: 10 (or to your liking), Check Mail Periodically. Go back, go back in (confirm settings were kept, I've seen it not keep them and have to do this a few times, per account). Alternatively, select Let device sleep, and it will only check when you wake it up. Go back to Accounts and select your next account, do this again. You must do this for all accounts listed.
Note about all mail client: If you have more than 2 or 3 e-mail accounts, Maildroid and all other IMAP clients I have tried get moved to Category 2. Basically, they start to keep enough Wakelocks that they keep the phone from going into Deep Sleep as much as I'd like. This is a difference of 1-3% per hour at idle, but if you're looking for 4+ hours screen time, then you need to Greenify them and just check e-mail manually.
Viber: Just make sure your Wi-Fi sleep policy is set to device and not constantly on, and Viber seems to behave pretty well as far as messaging apps go, but it's probably going to make the Category 4 list, as well.
WhatsApp: This one appears to work well (better than Viber from a wakeup perspective) and not have any sort of unnecessary battery drain. I generally don't use it any more since I feel they bait-and-switched me from free to fee, but I dethawed it to check it out. If anyone sees problems with it, let me know.
Category 2 Apps. These apps were keeping my phone awake at night with nightmares, and no amount of settings changes seemed to fix the problem altogether. If you have a solution of app settings that would move these to Category 1, please let me know. When I say solution, I mean, you've done the Wakelock and Alarm analysis and they're eliminated or minimized. For these, I Greenify them all. None of these apps' updates are so important to me that I can't just check up on them when I have a moment.
Facebook: I didn't play too much with settings here, but it seems that if FB is running, it's keeping your phone awake. I Greenify it and check it manually. I'd be interested in hearing if someone knows settings that will get it to not wakelock / alarm constantly.
FB Messenger: I love the chat heads and ease of use, but it's a big-time battery offender. I keep it installed and Greenified. If I get messages, I'll see them when I open the FB app, and when I reply, FB Messenger takes over and I use it normally until the conversation is done. At some point, Greenify takes over, and FB Messenger's battery damage is contained.
Google Maps: You can't fix this thing. No amount of settings will stop it from going after your phone. I love its functionality, though, so, unlike many guides that say uninstall it, I say Greenify it.
Google Goggles: A fun one to have around sometimes, but it will also chew up battery. Just Greenify it.
Google Play Store: There are plenty of apps and Android wakeups for the Play Store. I'm not worried about missing an update notification, or whatever else it might be sending my way. Greenifying it seems to have fixed the Google Play Services Alarms issue.
Almost everything else: If it's an app that doesn't need to provide you updates, just Greenify it. Why not? One of the first things I do after loading a new ROM and getting most of the configuration stuff done, is I go into Greenify, and I add every mundane app on my phone, for example: Vonage, Adobe Reader, Airbnb, Angry Birds, APN Manager Pro, Google Authenticator, Barcode Scanner, Citibank, Craigslist, Google Drive, DroidVPN, ES Task Manager, Fast Charge, FasterGPS, Flashlight, GasBuddy, GNotes, GooManager, GPS Status, Hyatt, Lucky Patcher, Office Document Viewer, Office Suite, OpenTable, Opera Classic, PayByPhone, SoundHound, Squeezebox, Street View, etc. My list goes on... You aren't going to lose their functionality, they don't suddenly stop when in use, and you don't have to worry about them ever causing problems you weren't thinking you had to look for.
Category 3 Apps that behave, no special settings, no Greenification
Alarm Clock Xtreme: I don't use the built-in Alarm Clock. I like all the features of Xtreme, it's never failed me, and it doesn't show up in Wakelock/Alarm offenders lists in my analyses.
Google Voice: Of all the Google offenders, this isn't one of them in my experience, and I love its features.
Lux: Nuff said.
WhosCall: A caller-ID type app. I don't love it, but haven't gone looking for something better, that said, it hasn't popped up on my battery draining radar, so that's a plus.
Hangouts: While I don't care for the new Google Talk, it sure doesn't seem to be a battery offender, and I use it to chat regularly.
Category 4 Apps are anything that would have gone into Category 2, but you want them as active as possible.
Line: In Settings, Chats and Voice Calls, I turn off Receive Voice Calls. This made Line tolerable (as in, way better), but it's still a Category 4 until (if ever) its devs reduce its number of wake-up Alarms
Exchange Services: Despite Corporate E-mail being a Category 1 now, Exchange Services is still keeping my phone awake more than I'd like. Nothing I can do here, though, so I live with it.
Viber: As stated, it's not a terrible offender, but it's still on the radar for keeping my phone awake. We'll see what their “any day now” major update brings. (someone remind me to update this post if I haven't post-Viber release)
Have Your Google and Your Battery
The Xposed module NLPUnbounce is awesome. I've given it a nice test, and it seems to perform excellent. NLPUnbounce allows you to use Google services as usual, including Android Device Manager features, like Remote Locate and Remote Wipe, but not do the crazy, crippling and disabling of Google Play Services like many guides have you do. It changes the polling rate of NLP (Network Location Provider) to something VERY reasonable. I haven't modified any of its settings, and it's reduced average idle consumption from ~4-5% to ~2-3%. I tested locating my phone and ringing it, all working.
Automatically Launching Applications
Not so much needed anymore. Just make sure you Greenify. For the "big things", use Xposed BootManager module.
AutoStart Check - Get it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.rbrtoanna.autostartcheck&hl=en
Fire up AutoStart Check (or any other autostart configuration app), set your view to Group by App, and expand every one of them and look at just how many different places some of these apps are set to start. Your Gallery starts with your Camera? ES File Explorer starts when you mount media or remove bad media? Facebook fires itself up just because you plugged in your phone. Google Goggles sees fit to start with every picture you take - and of course, it will then either drain your battery trying to get a GPS signal while your GPS is off, or drain your battery by getting one – fail. If you use S Health, it starts when your time zone changes – that's important. YouTube, seriously, YouTube – change accounts, mount media, connect power, every boot – you obviously need YouTube to fire up. Yeah.
A note here, read some guides on these before turning off too many system services. For example, don't disable messaging, bad idea, bad things happen. But most of this stuff, turn it off. You aren't killing your ability to use it, you're just making sure it isn't turning on all the time. If you've also Greenified well, after using any of these, they'll hibernate in the background without you having to worry.
Disable all system sounds (Dialing keypad tone, Touch sounds, Screen lock sound, Haptic feedback)
This is explained in some of the other threads, but, if you don't want to do the research, basically, the background services in Android that manage these things keep your phone awake. Turn them all off, battery life goes up.
Media Scanner
@sbreen94 included in the Hyperdrive Tweaks tools a one-button solution to turning it off. If it's drainging your battery, or you just want to make sure it doesn't, go click the button. This thing is better than the Staples button!
I'm sure there's probably a more generic way of stopping/managing Media Scanner. Someone please let me know and I'll update this section!
Battery Save Apps
I used to be madly in love with 2x Battery. Others swear by JuiceDefender. I guess if you don't/won't want to take the time to optimize apps and Greenify, they might be beneficial. You know what I found, though, when I started down this path? Some of the biggest offenders of Wakelocks and keeping my phone from sleeping when it should, are these battery saving apps!!! I now get BETTER battery life WITHOUT 2x Battery!
Short thoughts on this and example concepts of what's going on...
It may sound counterinterintuitive, but it seems most of the apps are so vigilant they keep your phone awake when it could be sleeping. And the vigilance isn't so necessary when you've properly configure things to not need this sort of overactive management of things. I'd love to see 2x Battery properly manage my data connection for me, without Wakelocks, but what's to say that the app trying to sync when the data is off won't now stay awake with new Wakelocks trying to get out to the internet? There's a cascading effect of whatever approach you might choose, so try to think about that, and keep it in mind when you look at your Wakelocks and your Alarms and you do your analysis.
The End
Okay, so I think that's aobut it. I may have forgotten some things, and I know this is a long post. But, this leaves very little excuse for people to blame ROMs/Kernels, while at the same time giving you the straight-forward, real world answer to battery savings 101. Yes, there are apps and details I left out. If anyone thinks of some obvoius ones, just let me know and I'll happily update this post.
You don't have to analyze any statistics or logs to do this. The principles are sound, and you'll see a dramatic improvement in battery if you don't already get a day of usage and 3.5 to 4.5 hours of screen time on your GS4. You just make some of these relatively straight-foward, user-level, common-sense changes.
If these changes don't give you the results you'd like, then do the analysis work in the threads linked above and find out what's the real culprit. Profit, enjoy, be happy. And remember... It's not the ROM.
Thanks for the thread, Bill. Here are a few of my questions/comments:
Regarding Lux, I used it for a few days, but could never seem to get a setting that worked for me. Whether using periodic updating or any of the other modes, the brightness level always seemed to adjust either too frequently or too slowly. Then I started experimenting with night mode and it got even worse. Do you have any suggestions to a quick and simple setup that won't drive me insane?
In terms of greenifying different apps, I always make sure that my SMS app and alarm clock are not greenified, and I don't use any widgets on my homescreen, but what about apps like Better Battery Stats, Boot Manager (for Xposed) and Automagic (flow chart based automation app) that are monitoring events and automating my phone? Will Battery Stats stop recording data is I set it to hibernate? Will Automagic miss a trigger I've set if it's hibernating? I would like to greenify EVERYTHING that I know won't cause any issues, but notifications aren't the only thing happening in the background that I want to allow.
Then, expanding on the autostarts, I mentioned that I use the Xposed module Boot Manager. This doesn't seem able to handle all of the situations that you described, like apps being launched based on SD card state, network state, etc. Am I missing something in this app or will I need to go another route to get all the options you've descibed?
Regarding the SD media scanning, my current ROM is a very debloated lean and mean stock Touchwiz ROM that doesn't have a native way to disable media scanner like the AOSP ROMs I used to run. Is there an app that does ONLY this, as I prefer to use dedicated apps rather than giant monsters which can control tons of things I don't need.
Anyway, I already do a lot of the practices you're advocating here, but I'm always looking for ways to do things in a more efficient or streamlined way. Using Greenify, keeping the stock clock speeds, and making sure that nothing is syncing (I keep backgruond sync disabled, but use an Automagic flow to enable it periodically throughout the day and then turn it back off again), keeps my battery life pretty solid. Add to that Deep Sleep Battery Saver which automatically turns off my connections when the screen is off, but will periodically turn them back based on my preferences, keeps my battery level pretty much steady wheen the phone is idle.
Hi guys, I have serious issue with my Mate 10 Pro. I started to notice, that my phone is not notificating me about new e-mails (gmail and outlook apps), new messages (hangouts) or reminders (to-do app). I Googled everything about this but nothing helped. I set background apps to "manage manually" and turned on "Ignore battery optimisation". I have also locked the apps in multitasking and added widgets to home screen. Nothing helped.
Also I have noticed that during the night all apps are gone from multitasking. What is going on? I never had such issue with any Android phone or tablet before.
Can anybody help me please?
yurij666 said:
Hi guys, I have serious issue with my Mate 10 Pro. I started to notice, that my phone is not notificating me about new e-mails (gmail and outlook apps), new messages (hangouts) or reminders (to-do app). I Googled everything about this but nothing helped. I set background apps to "manage manually" and turned on "Ignore battery optimisation". I have also locked the apps in multitasking and added widgets to home screen. Nothing helped.
Also I have noticed that during the night all apps are gone from multitasking. What is going on? I never had such issue with any Android phone or tablet before.
Can anybody help me please?
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Which firmware do you have
I had same issues with some apps but now, it works fine, at least with apps I'm using
sonydesouza said:
Which firmware do you have
I had same issues with some apps but now, it works fine, at least with apps I'm using
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8.0.0. 125 (C432), no update avaliable
yurij666 said:
8.0.0. 125 (C432), no update avaliable
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I have 127-C432 o'er update from 115-C432.
Never had 125 ?
sonydesouza said:
I have 127-C432 o'er update from 115-C432.
Never had 125 ?
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I have single SIM version, from Orange with data plan. I would try factory reset but I consider it as a last resort
yurij666 said:
I have single SIM version, from Orange with data plan. I would try factory reset but I consider it as a last resort
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Ahh.
Ok.
Bloody hell orange ?
Your problem is very likely being caused by Huawei's by-default aggressive battery optimisations.
There are two sections of settings to look at in fixing this;
1. To stop critical (to you) apps being forcibly closed, go to SETTINGS -> BATTERY -> LAUNCH, change your selected apps from "automatic" to "manual" and make sure "Run in Background" is enabled for them.
2. To allow critical (to you) apps to continue running with the screen off, go to SETTINGS -> APPS & NOTIFICATIONS -> APPS -> SETTINGS -> SPECIAL ACCESS -> BATTERY OPTIMISATION, change "Not Optimised" to "All" at the top of the screen, then set your critical apps to "Not Optimised."
It's a true pain that it's a two-fold process in different sections of the settings and that they're so tedious to get to, but once you've discovered where they are, it (sort of) makes sense.
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Your problem is very likely being caused by Huawei's by-default aggressive battery optimisations.
There are two sections of settings to look at in fixing this;
1. To stop critical (to you) apps being forcibly closed, go to SETTINGS -> BATTERY -> LAUNCH, change your selected apps from "automatic" to "manual" and make sure "Run in Background" is enabled for them.
2. To allow critical (to you) apps to continue running with the screen off, go to SETTINGS -> APPS & NOTIFICATIONS -> APPS -> SETTINGS -> SPECIAL ACCESS -> BATTERY OPTIMISATION, change "Not Optimised" to "All" at the top of the screen, then set your critical apps to "Not Optimised."
It's a true pain that it's a two-fold process in different sections of the settings and that they're so tedious to get to, but once you've discovered where they are, it (sort of) makes sense.
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I have already done these two steps. Didn't work. For example this morning I checked my phone, no notification. I opened gmail app, suddenly there is big 7 next do my new e-mails. Even then there was no notification in status bar.
yurij666 said:
I have already done these two steps. Didn't work. For example this morning I checked my phone, no notification. I opened gmail app, suddenly there is big 7 next do my new e-mails. Even then there was no notification in status bar.
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Have you checked that the app has notification permissions? SETTINGS -> APPS & NOTIFICATIONS -> NOTIFICATIONS MANAGEMENT
This is admittedly a far stretch as by default all apps should have notification permissions, but it's worth a try - and unfortunately is the only remaining idea I have.
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Have you checked that the app has notification permissions? SETTINGS -> APPS & NOTIFICATIONS -> NOTIFICATIONS MANAGEMENT
This is admittedly a far stretch as by default all apps should have notification permissions, but it's worth a try - and unfortunately is the only remaining idea I have.
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Yes, did that too. Even set those apps to priority. I guess I will really have to try that factory reset. What also bothers me is, that sometimes I want to unlock the phone (fingerprint or button) I hear the unlock sound, but the phone lights up like 5 seconds later.
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Yes, did that too. Even set those apps to priority. I guess I will really have to try that factory reset. What also bothers me is, that sometimes I want to unlock the phone (fingerprint or button) I hear the unlock sound, but the phone lights up like 5 seconds later.
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I doubt that the factory reset will help you. Well, at least with the to-do app reminders part. As I've described in my post (https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/local-notifications-t3737241), almost any to-do app fails to show the reminders (all possible optimization turned off, all permissions given), and it either has smth to do with our firmware, or with the apps not being adopted for the Oreo (some noticeable changes in notification API).
But if his phone takes 5 seconds to wake up, something is seriously wrong. I would highly recommend a factory reset if for nothing else than fixing the 5 second wake up time.
i have the same issue with almost all apps that i am using
did everything in google and still no luck
not sure is it app issue , huawei , android .... me ?
common i dont want to open and check all apps all the day to see if there is update or not just push it to me as soon as it get .
Same here, I have BLA-L09 8.0.0.128 (C432). I've tried all battery and notifications settings and I've also factory reset my phone. Google now does not update news, Gmail does not notify new emails, 3rd party widgets do not refresh, and the app for my car does not sync via Bluetooth (I have to remove the the BT profile and create it again to sync 1 time then stops)
I had the same problem with my previous phone (samsung note 3). It turned out to be due to IPv6 being enabled. Have you tried disabling it?
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Your problem is very likely being caused by Huawei's by-default aggressive battery optimisations.
There are two sections of settings to look at in fixing this;
1. To stop critical (to you) apps being forcibly closed, go to SETTINGS -> BATTERY -> LAUNCH, change your selected apps from "automatic" to "manual" and make sure "Run in Background" is enabled for them.
2. To allow critical (to you) apps to continue running with the screen off, go to SETTINGS -> APPS & NOTIFICATIONS -> APPS -> SETTINGS -> SPECIAL ACCESS -> BATTERY OPTIMISATION, change "Not Optimised" to "All" at the top of the screen, then set your critical apps to "Not Optimised."
It's a true pain that it's a two-fold process in different sections of the settings and that they're so tedious to get to, but once you've discovered where they are, it (sort of) makes sense.
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Thanks for this! I had already done #1, but #2 I had no clue about. It seems to have fixed the delay in notifications from the Outlook app.
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Thanks for this! I had already done #1, but #2 I had no clue about. It seems to have fixed the delay in notifications from the Outlook app.
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I wonder why Gmail is not listed as an app that can bypass the battery optimization?
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I wonder why Gmail is not listed as an app that can bypass the battery optimization?
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Because its preinstalled app. Anyway both settings doesn't works. I'm selling this peace of **** phone because it has no use anymore. Worst phone ever.
Can't get notifications from most of apps. So why do I need a smartphone like this...
And even battery, doesn't lasts full day from the time I wake up, till I go to sleep. so Huawei is the last phone I ever bought.
so is there any chance to have this issue fixed ?
by update perhaps , can we contact them or complain so they notice ?
i really search about phones before i buy it and choosed this one from the e specs and reviews
but i didnt expect there is a (SMART)PHONE would have a problem like this at all it is unbelievable
and i dont want to sell it .. just want this issue to be fixed
Just a thought...I read here and elsewhere that putting widgets on your home screen helps notifications comes through due to the fact that the widget keeps the apps open. I did this with my Honor Note 8 and, along with the other bits of advice above, got most of my notifications to work.
So I've had some annoyances with my new S9+ that I've never seen before. I'm not sure if it's a Samsung issue or an Oreo one.
So I'm getting some warnings in my notifications area. Now I get the idea behind it, but there's no way to approve apps. For instance, I get a warning that Waze was using the microphone. I approved that permission, yet every time I use Waze, I get the warning. I get a warning that Google Music is using a lot of CPU. Lastly, I'm getting a warning that Handcent SMS is accessing, you guessed it, SMS.
Again, I understand the idea behind it. However, two of these are working "as intended". I'm wondering if there's a way to whitelist apps so this notification doesn't appear every time.
If anyone needs to know how to fix this, I found it on Google.
Settings > Lockscreen and Security > App Permission Monitor.
Then you can turn that all the way off, or off for specific apps.
I know this is a topic existing over internet, I've googled it extensively, but up to now I haven't found a solution.
I've got a non-pro Mate 10, the Chinese version AL-00, rebranded to International/Global ALP L-29.
Approximately two to three weeks ago I got an update from 9 to EMUI 9.1, and maybe a week later, another update as a security patch. The current version of the software is 9.1.0301 (C636E2R1P12).
After the system update, I normally updated all the apps that needed updating and cleaned the phone's cache from bootloader. And although now I once again receive notifications from Google play when an app needs updating (I stopped receiving those a while back for an unknown reason), I stopped receiving notifications for virtually any messaging service or social network, including Gmail app.
To be more specific, when using Gmail, Facebook Messenger, Viber, Whatsapp LinkedIn or some other, I do not get notified of new messages/posts/emails whatever, UNLESS I am using the phone at that particular moment, or unless I am using that specific app at that moment. That also applies for my bank's custom app which should normally notify me instantly as soon as some expense occurs on my card. A few times it even happened that I would receive and reply to a FB message, close the app and like an hour later would receive a notification that that specific person messaged me.
This only started happening after that last update.
I tried turning off battery optimization for each and every single of those apps, I tried switching App launch to manual. It literally makes no difference. Force stopping and cleaning the cache of the apps doesn't help as well.
While I could live with it when it comes to FB or LinkedIn, I cant have Gmail or FB Messenger holding my messages for so long without notifying me. I need them for my work and sometimes time is of the utmost essence.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated
EDIT: I just noticed that I'm having same problems with Google Keep app when using reminders
Please, guys, help!
neverone said:
I know this is a topic existing over internet, I've googled it extensively, but up to now I haven't found a solution.
I've got a non-pro Mate 10, the Chinese version AL-00, rebranded to International/Global ALP L-29.
Approximately two to three weeks ago I got an update from 9 to EMUI 9.1, and maybe a week later, another update as a security patch. The current version of the software is 9.1.0301 (C636E2R1P12).
After the system update, I normally updated all the apps that needed updating and cleaned the phone's cache from bootloader. And although now I once again receive notifications from Google play when an app needs updating (I stopped receiving those a while back for an unknown reason), I stopped receiving notifications for virtually any messaging service or social network, including Gmail app.
To be more specific, when using Gmail, Facebook Messenger, Viber, Whatsapp LinkedIn or some other, I do not get notified of new messages/posts/emails whatever, UNLESS I am using the phone at that particular moment, or unless I am using that specific app at that moment. That also applies for my bank's custom app which should normally notify me instantly as soon as some expense occurs on my card. A few times it even happened that I would receive and reply to a FB message, close the app and like an hour later would receive a notification that that specific person messaged me.
This only started happening after that last update.
I tried turning off battery optimization for each and every single of those apps, I tried switching App launch to manual. It literally makes no difference. Force stopping and cleaning the cache of the apps doesn't help as well.
While I could live with it when it comes to FB or LinkedIn, I cant have Gmail or FB Messenger holding my messages for so long without notifying me. I need them for my work and sometimes time is of the utmost essence.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated
EDIT: I just noticed that I'm having same problems with Google Keep app when using reminders
Please, guys, help!
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I've the same updates like yours but mine has no problem
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yap.rony said:
I've the same updates like yours but mine has no problem
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Did you make a full system reset afterwards?
neverone said:
Did you make a full system reset afterwards?
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Do you have root? Try freezing powergenie app, it should allow the notifications to come on time. The only issue is there might be a "slight" battery drain from more apps allowed to run in background. That was a dirty fix that worked even in emui 8/9 and peps seemed to have no issues even after the mod.
Since emui 9.1 introduces erofs file system, you'll have to either freeze the app in question everytime you reboot or create magisk module that during boot replaces contents of /system/app/HwPowerGenieEngine3 with empy folder - I'm not sure how removing odex files affects the thermals so I suggest just removing apk file and keeping everything else from the original directory intact if the temps and phone performance behave odly after doing this.
Feel free to give it a try, but I don't think it's actually worth doing it. The old forum post suggesting this mod actually overlooked the importance of power genie when it comes to temps + performance regulations across the board. Without it the temps will rise, phone won't supercharge and the performance will dip.
I'm actually playing around with this rn, trying to remove thermal limits on per app basis, if I come across anything I'll let ya know. Good luck
Have you made test on both mobile network and on WLAN? And what provider do you use with this phone? I see OP1 and VIP in your profile, probably outdated.
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Do you have root?
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Yeah, thanks, and I can see that you really wanted to help but no, I never rooted this phone, so I guess that all the tips you have for me are, unfortunately, in vain
Thanks though, for trying to help!
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Have you made test on both mobile network and on WLAN? And what provider do you use with this phone? I see OP1 and VIP in your profile, probably outdated.
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Yep I did, sometimes switching between WiFi and mobile network does activate the apps to check for new messages/mail, and sometimes it doesn't. I haven't noticed any clear pattern.
And it must be difference between XDA forums and the app. I swear I switched it when I bought the Mate. But I'm still on VIP/A1
@neverone, go to Settings > Battery > More battery settings and switch on the option Stay connected when device sleeps. I didn't see you mention this somewhere, I switch this on after every factory reset.
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@neverone, go to Settings > Battery > More battery settings and switch on the option Stay connected when device sleeps. I didn't see you mention this somewhere, I switch this on after every factory reset.
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No I haven't, but now that I checked, it was turned on all the time. However, knowing that sometimes this actually works, I toggled it off and back on several times and restarted the phone. I'll pay closer attention during the day to see if that helped and report back here. Thanks for the suggestion.
I too have this issue in my M10Pro specially in messenger. sometimes the chat icon doesn't appear even if i have an unread message.
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@neverone, go to Settings > Battery > More battery settings and switch on the option Stay connected when device sleeps. I didn't see you mention this somewhere, I switch this on after every factory reset.
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cheeze.keyk said:
I too have this issue in my M10Pro specially in messenger. sometimes the chat icon doesn't appear even if i have an unread message.
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Here's an update: Turning off and on the "Stay connected" option did not help at all, the real proof is that i received an email notification of cheeze.keyk replying to this thread, and I only saw it when I logged in on my PC. The phone did not notify me at all.
So the problem still persists, unfortunately. I am really hoping that I won't have to make a factory reset, although it is also uncertain if that would help at all.
totally bummed. my Mate 10 Pro screen just went crazy. It now has a bright green line all across the very bottom of the screen. And the whole screen now has a faint "screen door" effect going on. just enough to be irritating. I doubt I can live with it, but I loved this phone.
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totally bummed. my Mate 10 Pro screen just went crazy. It now has a bright green line all across the very bottom of the screen. And the whole screen now has a faint "screen door" effect going on. just enough to be irritating. I doubt I can live with it, but I loved this phone.
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I'm sorry that you're experiencing such issues, but I don't see the link between your issues, and the issues we're discussing here.
agreed. wrong thread. sorry
@neverone, another idea. Have you frozen some system apps, especially Google Play Services? Or maybe disabled in battery app launch or turned on battery optimization for Google Play Services and Google Services Framework?
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@neverone, another idea. Have you frozen some system apps, especially Google Play Services? Or maybe disabled in battery app launch or turned on battery optimization for Google Play Services and Google Services Framework?
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These two screenshots show show which apps I have frozen/disabled and which of the Google based apps have and don't have battery optimisation activated.
This essentially hasn't changed since I bought the phone over a year ago. Do you think I should do something with these apps or change some of their settings?
Send also the complete screenshot of Settings > Battery > App launch > Three dots > Manage manually.
Did you restrict background data maybe? Settings > Wireless & networks > Data usage > Network access > in upper drop down menu switch to Advanced network settings > Tick all apps on both installed and system apps list.
And the last question, do you use Smart Data Saver? Settings > Wireless & networks > Data usage > Smart Data Saver
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Send also the complete screenshot of Settings > Battery > App launch > Three dots > Manage manually.
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Here you go, attached. Hope you'll be able to read all the apps ?
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Did you restrict background data maybe? Settings > Wireless & networks > Data usage > Network access > in upper drop down menu switch to Advanced network settings > Tick all apps on both installed and system apps list.
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Nope, all processes have an unrestricted background data ?
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And the last question, do you use Smart Data Saver? Settings > Wireless & networks > Data usage > Smart Data Saver
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Nope, data saver has been turned off and moreover, most of the apps seem to be ticked as an exception if it ever gets turned on
Hope that you put all checkmarks on Google Play Services and all other apps you have notifications problem.
Well as you can see, considering Google's apps, all is good.
I mean this one in Settings > Battery > App launch > Three dots > Manage manually, have a look on attachment.
So, my Email client, Google Play services, Moj Telekom, Viber and WhatsApp have set all three options: auto-launch, secondary launch and run in background. With this setup, I have no problems at all.
I updated my 7.2 to Android 10 yesterday.
Since then i had some problems with third party apps (like WhatsApp, Instagram, Snapchat) that aren't getting notifications.
For example:
I have WhatsApp open in the background all the time. But i don't get notifications when i haven't opened it for a moment (30min?).
I close Snapchat in the background once I'm done with it. I never get notifications. Not even after hours of waiting.
Instagram is a similar thing. I close it once I'm done with it. Sometimes i get notifications with a delay of like 30min, sometimes I don't get any notifications.
Things i tried to fix it:
- I restarted the Phone.
- I deactivated adaptive battery.
- I checked to be sure that battery optimization is turned off for those apps.
- I checked that all notifications are allowed.
- I checked that datasaver is turned off.
- I deleted the cache of these apps.
- I reinstalled these apps.
- I changed the Heartbeat Interval with the PNF App.
Nothing helped so far.
Is this a bug in Android 10 on the 7.2? Is there anyone experiencing the same problem?
no problem on my phone. I think factory reset will fix the issue. dont forget to backup first
kacang87 said:
no problem on my phone. I think factory reset will fix the issue. dont forget to backup first
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It seems to be an ongoing issue with some phones. There is an online document where everyone can sign up who as similar issues to have Nokia fix the bug. The docuement can be found on Openpetition.