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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
Installed on my Stock but rooted prime now. Appears to eliminate all the stock browser lag I used to have. It's now blazing fast, and I can scroll while its still loading stuff which I was never able to do before. Holy mother of all fixes it seems like:good:
I installed it last night on my prime. It does lot for my prime. I also did some of the early investigation to what was really being fixed by this hack. I am glad Cyanogen has confirmed some of my theories. If you are rooted I would highly recommend installing it.
-l4k
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
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Tried this and also read up a bit on what it does. Unfortunately I don't think what this tries to do is an issue on the Prime. This basically makes sure there is always random data available for apps from a location that will block if there's none available. However, when I ran a command that was constantly consuming all the random data (cat /dev/random > /dev null), I could see that the random data was getting consumed but it wasn't causing a perceptibly adverse effect on anything else.
I also just ran the app for a while, and I didn't notice anything being more responsive. It will consume extra battery though.
Take look at my write up on the Google bug. That is what the author originally thought the problem was. What is probably going on is kernel lock contention due to the code that generates entropy when the pool is depleted.
Installed it just now, no discernible effect. Quick reboot... Chameleon launcher, app switching, Chrome, all smooth as butter. I am gobsmacked! I think have a feeling this works well for me because of the number of connections made by Chameleon, logged in accounts (I have 9 accounts logged in at all times) and apps syncing that I regularly exhaust the block device. Add to our already slow IO, any blocking at the kernel level will be multipled.
Going to monitor it some more and report back on battery life and any further observations. Thanks for the share! :good:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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it has no effect on any benchmarks so its hard to quantify. for my use it does not make a discernible difference in anything I do with my prime is about the best data you can get.
It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
Will give it a try.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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The reason why your device *feels* snappier is because constant I/O activity ensures the CPU will remain at rather high clocks, producing the effect of a smoother experience at the expense of massive battery drain. The explanation of increasing the entropy does nothing by itself, you could cause a lot of I/O activity to anywhere in the emmc and it would produce a similar effect.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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Indeed. That was my point, benchmark results were unchanged but user experience is different. Hrrrm
Didn't do anything for me. Uninstalled it.
Thanks for finding this
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
f'n around said:
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
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+ 1 here. Running last JB update + rooted, wasn't able to play heavy games since the update to JB when we lost the OC kernel from ICS, games were laggy, freezing,almost unplayable. After seeder.apk installation, <i am again able to play NOVA 3, Batman, Spiderman, Asåhalt 7, without any lag and high FPS, seems even better than when my Prime was on ICS OC to 1600. I don't care about what people say but what I experience o preformance, this is something I've learnt after all those years using Android devices. Give it try expecially if you run heavy apps. Battery is a bit worse, but who cares when the prime isnot overheating and run a lot better.
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I want to install it too, but as I understand there is no root for current JB yet, or am I wrong?!
as the uninstall?
Hi guys, just wondering how good it is in terms of games?
Just about to buy one and just wanted your opinion. Thanks for you time.
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Hi guys, just wondering how good it is in terms of games?
Just about to buy one and just wanted your opinion. Thanks for you time.
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Well, I'm a daily player with a number of games on my GPad, and for now it has been running everything flawlessly. I'm currently playing Asphalt 8 in high details, and Amazing Spiderman 2 : both are just perfect and beautiful. I expect it will be some time before you find something thaht lags on it.
Have you tried need for speed most wanted on it. Cause that game is very laggy on mine, Rest work fine.
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Have you tried need for speed most wanted on it. Cause that game is very laggy on mine,
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Weird, it's really, really buttersmooth on mine.
Modern Combat 4, Deus Ex 2, Frontline Commando 2, Real Racing 3, Call of Duty Strike Team - works great.
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Weird, it's really, really buttersmooth on mine.
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That game was smooth on mine as well.
Though I only had the LG G Pad a few days before returning it (did not like the quality of sound output and the display was blinking - a fault?)
Hope this topic gets more informative. Games are the only thing that is preventing me from buying this tablet. I haven't personally run any benchmark on the device but when I go to gfxbench.com and compare this tablet with other devices is seems like it will have a very short future on gaming. Because not only Galaxy S4 with the same chipset scores higher on the graphical benchmarks but even also Nexus 7 2013 is very much ahead of this tablet.
In the beginning I was going between two tablets; Tab Pro 8.4 and G Pad 8.3 because of Tab Pro's superior screen (everyone was saying G Pad was the dimmest screen they have ever seen). After seing that G Pad has actually better color accuracy and no downsides at all, I wanted to go for G Pad. However benchmarks are really scaring me on the GPU side (I don' care about CPU benchs because they are unreliable however GPU ones are very relistic).
Since I haven't even personally see a G Pad outside of a store I have no chance to run some benchmarks or measure any potential. So, I am trying to understand how even Nexus 7 can do better than G Pad. Could it be that the tests were made from the time of 4.4.2? Could any of you possibly run some tests on CM 11 and latest stock environments to share results? I know Adreno 330 has some technological advantages but it should not be that much better on the Tab Pro 8.4's resolution against G Pad..
Forget synthetic benchmarks, they are just for epeen bragging rights, and a lot of the time they aren't even accurate (see Samsung and HTC faking theirs) what games do you want tested?
I've never cared about benchmarks either and I must say I did not experience any problems with games I threw at LG G Pad.
With that said - and you guys are going to hate me for this - as far as tablet gaming is concerned, nothing beats the iPad. Whatever we may think about Apple's 'walled garden' ecosystem, the variety, the sheer amount of games available there is astounding. And don't get me started on optimization and regular updates to games....
Please understand that I'm not trolling, I've used many various Android tablets and loved them all. But for pure gaming purposes, I'd be hard-pressed to find a better tablet. Sorry.
Nothing to be sorry about, devs go where the money is, the Android ecosystem is different and follows the freemium approach more. You can make more money from less sales on the iStore with a $3 game than more android installs of a freemium game if barely anyone buys the extras.
I don't think that this tablet is a good performer in games.
My friend has a galaxy s3 and in almost every game his framerates and graphics are better than my g pad.
A test sample for me is carX drift (that i really love playing), he is able to run it without any framerate drops on high graphics
while my g pad is running it on low with some framerate drops (if i switch to medium or high graphics it is still playable,but the framerate is sub 25fps)
And on amazing spiderman 2 it is not smooth by any mean, it is just playable (20fps seems to my eyes)
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I don't think that this tablet is a good performer in games.
My friend has a galaxy s3 and in almost every game his framerates and graphics are better than my g pad.
A test sample for me is carX drift (that i really love playing), he is able to run it without any framerate drops on high graphics
while my g pad is running it on low with some framerate drops (if i switch to medium or high graphics it is still playable,but the framerate is sub 25fps)
And on amazing spiderman 2 it is not smooth by any mean, it is just playable (20fps seems to my eyes)
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That seems like a problem. I know Google would never let its own device go under a mission impossible so I believe GP Edition of the tablet has either better optimised or newer drivers for GPU. I mean, look at Nexus 7 2013, even it has better performance when it comes to 3d gaming. This device is sold on Goole's vey own web page with Google's name on it. There is no way it should be lagging in games in the Google's own world without even turning 1 year old..
So it is either worse driver or underclocked GPU?
Has anyone tried OCing or using CM 11 since they "may" have better/newer drivers for GPU?
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I persdonally don't think GPU benchmarks are inaccurate. We want to see how our devices would treat games and they give us a scientifically equal test environment.. If we were to compare two devices with the same game, two person -side by side- would have to play excatly the same way which is impossible. So consider the 3d benchmarks as playing and measuring a cinematic part of a game..
Of course this idea is valid until some *clever* company starts cheating..
Still, something is not with G Pad's GPU, it can't even beat Galaxy S4..
alekos1992 said:
I don't think that this tablet is a good performer in games.
My friend has a galaxy s3 and in almost every game his framerates and graphics are better than my g pad.
A test sample for me is carX drift (that i really love playing), he is able to run it without any framerate drops on high graphics
while my g pad is running it on low with some framerate drops (if i switch to medium or high graphics it is still playable,but the framerate is sub 25fps)
And on amazing spiderman 2 it is not smooth by any mean, it is just playable (20fps seems to my eyes)
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You do realise the GPad has a much higher resolution than the S3?
I own both the GPad and an S3, I will try this out tonight and let you know.
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I persdonally don't think GPU benchmarks are inaccurate. We want to see how our devices would treat games and they give us a scientifically equal test environment.. If we were to compare two devices with the same game, two person -side by side- would have to play excatly the same way which is impossible. So consider the 3d benchmarks as playing and measuring a cinematic part of a game..
Of course this idea is valid until some *clever* company starts cheating..
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It depends how you are testing, just running a timed demo on a commercial game would be more accurate than running 3DMark or something along those lines.
Companies have been caught out and basically letting the phone/tablet/whatever run flat out when it detects it's running a benchmark app, which they normally wouldn't do due to heat and battery problems.
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You do realise the GPad has a much higher resolution than the S3?
I own both the GPad and an S3, I will try this out tonight and let you know.
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It depends how you are testing, just running a timed demo on a commercial game would be more accurate than running 3DMark or something along those lines.
Companies have been caught out and basically letting the phone/tablet/whatever run flat out when it detects it's running a benchmark app, which they normally wouldn't do due to heat and battery problems.
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You are right. However, Google is not one of those companies. So this tablet -at least- should have gotten on par with the Nexus 7 2013 level (of course with the same software version). Like I said, I have never seen a Google Play Edition of G Pad with my own eyes and never seen a benchmark run on it either.. But I believe if run, the benchmarks should have been at least on par or higher than Nexus 7 2013, depending on S4 Pro and S600 differences. I know Nexus 7 has a special version of S4 Pro and it probably effects the Adreno 320's performance too but still this tablet has an S600 chipset.
If you check gfxbench.com, and compare Nexus 7 2013, Samsung Galaxy Tap Pro 8.4 and G Pad 8.3 to each other you definetely can say G Pad should not result like that (talking about "onscreen" values, the others are just tricky values).
If I may ask, would you mind running some tests on your tablet to see how it is on, onscreen tests on gfx bench (If you are on KitKat of course)?
And also, If someone has some time to run the same benchmark on the CM 11 would be very much welcome and I would be very much thankfull If the results are so different than stock LG software's then we will know that something is wrong on the driver side (outdated/misconfigured etc..)
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If I may ask, would you mind running some tests on your tablet to see how it is on, onscreen tests on gfx bench (If you are on KitKat of course)?
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As long as it doesn't cost me money, I am happy to run whatever you want. I'm using stock rooted KitKat, LG launcher, pretty much as standard as it can get.
Let me know what you want me to run and I will do it over the weekend (if I remember :laugh
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As long as it doesn't cost me money, I am happy to run whatever you want. I'm using stock rooted KitKat, LG launcher, pretty much as standard as it can get.
Let me know what you want me to run and I will do it over the weekend (if I remember :laugh
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Thank you
I guess 2 apps would be more than enough.
One is gfxbench 3.0, after you download (Wi-Fi recommended) and pass the welcome screen just click on "tests" and select everything except "off screen" ones then let it run. It will take like 5 mins. (You may want to try battery life test but it is not necessary)
You can go to gfxbench.com and chose your device to compare with your results. For example my Nexus 4's results are very much same with the web page's but my previous Note 2 was so different.
The other is 3D mark. A cross platform test so we can compare the tablet to any tablet or phone.. Simply run the tests and it will display results side by side.
I know I am asking for too much but please run all tests twice and run them as all other apps are closed. If previous results are significantly lower than seconds then it is a driver or stability issue, if the opposite there is thermal throttle, if they are close enough then those are the results we need to achieve..
Thank you so much for helping. That is too important to me.
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I guess 2 apps would be more than enough.
One is gfxbench 3.0, after you download (Wi-Fi recommended) and pass the welcome screen just click on "tests" and select everything except "off screen" ones then let it run. It will take like 5 mins. (You may want to try battery life test but it is not necessary)
You can go to gfxbench.com and chose your device to compare with your results. For example my Nexus 4's results are very much same with the web page's but my previous Note 2 was so different.
The other is 3D mark. A cross platform test so we can compare the tablet to any tablet or phone.. Simply run the tests and it will display results side by side.
I know I am asking for too much but please run all tests twice and run them as all other apps are closed. If previous results are significantly lower than seconds then it is a driver or stability issue, if the opposite there is thermal throttle, if they are close enough then those are the results we need to achieve..
Thank you so much for helping. That is too important to me.
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Gfxbench done
3dmark done
There does seem to be some thermal throttling going on.
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Thanks a lot.
Weird, there is noticible change between two tests. GPU benchmarks should not change that much unless there are thermal issues.
Another thing is the results are higher than gfxbench.com says, obviously 4.4.2 brings some boost over 4.2.2.. This way it is on par or close-enough with Nexus 7 2013.
Thank you again
Just updated with 3d mark, does look a lot like there's thermal throttling going on. The device does get warm under load but I out that down to having a metal back.
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Gangster vegas works fine :>
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the LG G6 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Terrible scrolling! My kindle fire 7 rooted has better scrolling. Unbelievable a flagship phone performs like this.
Scrolling and all around performance is excellent on my G6. No complaints at all.
Can you make a video?
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Can you make a video?
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But you ain't seen his girlfriend yet
My Lenovo P2 has smoother scrolling than this. It has Snapdragon 625 and costs $300.
Very disappointed
I am having the scroll lag issues since I got my G6. I have factory reset it multiple times. No gain. I have enabled Forced GPU rendering to no avail. I disabled HW overlays but gets disabled automatically. I don't know whats wrong here. Other than this scrolling issue, I am very happy with this phone.
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I am having the scroll lag issues since I got my G6. I have factory reset it multiple times. No gain. I have enabled Forced GPU rendering to no avail. I disabled HW overlays but gets disabled automatically. I don't know whats wrong here. Other than this scrolling issue, I am very happy with this phone.
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I guess you are mentioning about the Google Chrome scrolling lag? Try Ad Blocker to remove the ads, A Snapdragon 821 device like the LG G6 , One Plus 3T or the Google Pixel offers smooth performance without any kind of micro stutter. LG G6 is surprising smoother than the newer Snapdragon 835 or the Exynos 8895 device Galaxy S8!
Not just Google Chrome
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I guess you are mentioning about the Google Chrome scrolling lag? Try Ad Blocker to remove the ads, A Snapdragon 821 device like the LG G6 , One Plus 3T or the Google Pixel offers smooth performance without any kind of micro stutter. LG G6 is surprising smoother than the newer Snapdragon 835 or the Exynos 8895 device Galaxy S8!
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Thank you for your response. No, I am not taking about just Google Chrome. Its almost every app where there is some kinda scrolling. Examples include chrome, Firefox, Facebook, 9gag, Reddit, even XDA. Its everywhere man. Also, I do have adblocker installed.
Mine scrolls pretty, pretty smoothly in all those apps and using Adguard. There might be a problem with yours...
I've got no scrolling issues at all. Wanna test scrolling download 9gag and enable scroll with volume keys. Hold down on the volume key. Truly there's no lag at all in my phone. Maybe, just maybe some scroll blur which is nothing to not expect. But truly no lag.
Always having problem with this phone. My Galaxy S6 was much smoother overall, no single stutter in comparison with my new G6. Basically with the G6 I came back to the days of LG G3, still the same software experience.
Usually is fine. Wish I could turn off scroll animations but US997 model doesn't offer the option without custom rom.
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Essential Phone under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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It is choppy and freezes a lot. I did not expect this from a highend phone
Mine has a slight chop to it especially if there are ads and pictures in the article. Usually it is fine.
My first device ran pretty smooth, but after 2 months the fingerprint scanner stopped working. I received a replacement unit this week and this just runs horribly. I don't know if this is a touchscreen issue or software. Scrolling through Youtube or a web page will seem to just hang and not move. The other day the phone just hung in the launcher. I'm getting more disappointed with this on a daily basis. I'm almost tempted to install the Oreo beta just to see if that improves things.
Scrolling is hands down much smoother on my 2 year old Nexus 5x. Hoping Essential can fix it. It's been choppy on all of the stock-based ROMs. AOSP/custom ROMs appears to be really smooth.
If you're rooted try a kernel control app & switch the gpu governor to CPU freq, userspace, or performance. That worked well for me. Especially cpu freq & performance.
Scrolling has been smooth on open beta 2 and 3.
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If you're rooted try a kernel control app & switch the gpu governor to CPU freq, userspace, or performance. That worked well for me. Especially cpu freq & performance.
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Touch scrolling is very choppy on my device. Even the app drawer is choppy as hell. I was on OB3 and it was the same. The only fix for me on all ROMs is to set GPU governor to cpufreq or performance (which I believe are similar in keeping GPU clock mostly at max). In the past Lineage 14.1 was super smooth, but for some reason all Oreo based ROMs are just as choppy as stock. Fortunately, the GPU governor tweak works great until Essential finally releases a fix. I'll believe it when I see it. If the GPU governor tweak didn't work, I would have moved on to a different device.
I thought it was really smooth with the GPU performance governor until I used my friend's Note 8. That thing has some smooth scrolling.
This device has horrible scrolling stutter that doesn't seem will be resolved anytime before I pick up the OP6. It's unfortunate that there isn't a fix for this problem, despite having released supposed fixes. I miss the OP3, never had a single issue.
If you like a buttery smooth and readable/responsive experience, pick any other phone. This won't give it to you.
On beta 3 stock, never rooted.
I don't own the phone, but I read about the issue, and this sort of thing has really bugged me in the past. I'm curious: has anyone tested the refresh rate by going to vsynctester.com in Chrome? I wonder if the refresh rate is significantly off the reported value and resulting in an asynchronicity of sorts.
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I don't own the phone, but I read about the issue, and this sort of thing has really bugged me in the past. I'm curious: has anyone tested the refresh rate by going to vsynctester.com in Chrome? I wonder if the refresh rate is significantly off the reported value and resulting in an asynchronicity of sorts.
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Haven't used this site before, but on my phone, it's reporting 60.3-60.7 Hz refresh rate, on a 60.7 Hz screen. The word on the right generally stays grey with only 1-2 flashes of blue or red.
That’s not perfect, but it’s not too off the mark. I was expecting something like 55 or 65hz if it were to be the source of the stuttering. It’s gotta be something else causing it, then.
I'm running 8.1 Beta and the only place I notice a slight choppiness is on my Google Feed page. Very smooth everywhere else.
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I'm running 8.1 Beta and the only place I notice a slight choppiness is on my Google Feed page. Very smooth everywhere else.
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I am on beta 8.1 already, the phone is not that smooth compared to my pixel 2 XL.
on Los 15.1 03/10/2018 and is buttery smooooooooooth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For anyone who sees this and runs latest stock rom as of this reply, how is scrolling smoothness now? I am considering getting this phone for a relative but they come from a Nexus 6P and with that, smooth scrolling so switching to something like the PH-1 and have choppy scrolling. Is it any better than before?
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For anyone who sees this and runs latest stock rom as of this reply, how is scrolling smoothness now? I am considering getting this phone for a relative but they come from a Nexus 6P and with that, smooth scrolling so switching to something like the PH-1 and have choppy scrolling. Is it any better than before?
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I'm on P beta 2, scrolling jitter/frame drops are still there. Coming from a Nexus 6P I'm sure they will notice it.
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I'm on P beta 2, scrolling jitter/frame drops are still there. Coming from a Nexus 6P I'm sure they will notice it.
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What about latest 8.1 build?
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What about latest 8.1 build?
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It is an issue with the screen/digitizer so it is never going to get fixed. You can either up the responsiveness and get jitters or make it smooth but very unresponsive.
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
T1Coreon said:
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
zaooza said:
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
zaooza said:
Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine