I'm starting this thread to provide a more direct way for owners of the VOG-L04 P30 Pro variant to post some findings for people wanting to buy in the US.... Primarily if you can provide screen captures to prove some of the following:
1. With TMobile or ATT Sim in, Does the phone have wifi and / or VoLTE (use the cell network info app in the play store
2. Do you have wifi calling as an option in the network settings menu with ATT / TMobile Sim in?
3. Where / How did you get your phone? Buy online, cross the border, etc.
4. Any additional info you may want to share
With Band 66 on this phone and the possibility of better compatibility in the USA, we need your help to determine if we should wait for the L04 to become more available or just buy an international L09 / L29 if there's no real added benefit
Help us L04 owners, you're our only hope.....
Yeah, same. Wondering if Canada / Latin America variants have slightly better coverage in the US>
Im interested also
Me too! I believe there is a lot of interest regarding us "USA" consumers trying to find a better fit.
My AT&T SIM has been inactive too long, or I could help out. I'll see if I can obtain another one.
I got mine.
I live between USA and Peru. I just upgraded my plan and got the huawei P30 pro 256gb VOG-L04. For us$600.
Now is I am in San Francisco and using it. In peru I have volte and wifi calling option. But when I change sim cards.. The phone locks those options. Probably os because the phone is unlocked but attached to a carrier..
I get lte speed on 35 to 60 mbps in San Francisco using band 4. I don't know where to find lte 66. I will go to Guenerville, nyc. Boston during the next weeks and try the reception.
I highly doubt it will have VOLTE or wifi calling in any of the US carriers.
VoLTE looks to work just based on call connection speed, etc. Even though there's not a toggle for it. Wifi calling is a definite no
Don't count on getting WiFi Calling or VoLTE using AT&T SIM on VOG-L29
Unlike iPhone where iOS can download carrier settings, Andriod does not.
My dual sim L29 bought in Thailand will have VoLTE & WiFi calling options for all local SIM inserted. When I insert my AT&T, the two options disappears. I can get WiFi Calling using the same AT&T SIM in my iPhone X no problem.
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Don't count on getting WiFi Calling or VoLTE using AT&T SIM on VOG-L29
Unlike iPhone where iOS can download carrier settings, Andriod does not.
My dual sim L29 bought in Thailand will have VoLTE & WiFi calling options for all local SIM inserted. When I insert my AT&T, the two options disappears. I can get WiFi Calling using the same AT&T SIM in my iPhone X no problem.
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But we're talking about the L04 though...which I get both in Canada (V & Wifi), and will try in the USA when I can.
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marcopolo1 said:
I live between USA and Peru. I just upgraded my plan and got the huawei P30 pro 256gb VOG-L04. For us$600.
Now is I am in San Francisco and using it. In peru I have volte and wifi calling option. But when I change sim cards.. The phone locks those options. Probably os because the phone is unlocked but attached to a carrier..
I get lte speed on 35 to 60 mbps in San Francisco using band 4. I don't know where to find lte 66. I will go to Guenerville, nyc. Boston during the next weeks and try the reception.
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What SIM card did you put in at the switch (carrier)? I think if you reset the phone to factory, then put the US SIM card, you may find you have those features. Just trying to troubleshoot everything here......
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But we're talking about the L04 though...which I get both in Canada (V & Wifi), and will try in the USA when I can.
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What SIM card did you put in at the switch (carrier)? I think if you reset the phone to factory, then put the US SIM card, you may find you have those features. Just trying to troubleshoot everything here......
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You don't need to be in the USA to try it out. Just put in your AT&T SIM card in the phone while in Canada or wherever you are on earth
Resetting the phone to factory won't help.
marcopolo1 said:
I live between USA and Peru. I just upgraded my plan and got the huawei P30 pro 256gb VOG-L04. For us$600.
Now is I am in San Francisco and using it. In peru I have volte and wifi calling option. But when I change sim cards.. The phone locks those options. Probably os because the phone is unlocked but attached to a carrier..
I get lte speed on 35 to 60 mbps in San Francisco using band 4. I don't know where to find lte 66. I will go to Guenerville, nyc. Boston during the next weeks and try the reception.
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You don't need to be in the USA to try it out. Just put in your AT&T SIM card in the phone while in Canada or wherever you are on earth
Resetting the phone to factory won't help.
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Actually it does. The first SIM card you put in dictates what "features" the phone downloads, the bloatware, if you will.
I put my local sim card. The option of carrier aggregation is on. With the tmobile sim card some options are off, like volte a d wifi calling. With my local sim card those options are on.
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But we're talking about the L04 though...which I get both in Canada (V & Wifi), and will try in the USA when I can.
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What SIM card did you put in at the switch (carrier)? I think if you reset the phone to factory, then put the US SIM card, you may find you have those features. Just trying to troubleshoot everything here......
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Actually it does. The first SIM card you put in dictates what "features" the phone downloads, the bloatware, if you will.
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Not necessarily - it depends on what firmware the phone has. Phones sold in HK and most of SE Asia are, by law, unlocked. Bloatwares and "features" are already there with the out-of-box firmware.
When you update your firmware - that's another story.
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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I second this!!!
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I second this!!!
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udaredme said:
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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We do know that the Canadian (Americas Model) has Band 66 as opposed to the International Versions... Its on Huawei site... So that's confirmed... AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 66 (launched 2016, 2017)... not everywhere as it is a newer band. Band 66 is an extension of Band 4.... What does that mean? From what I gather and someone maybe able to clarify that is a little more familiar with it, if a phone supports Band 4 and Band 66, it allows for more LTE headroom which results in faster speeds... not necessarily better reception...
With that said, I have the L29 on T-Mobile... do I notice any differences than the other countless phones I've had... No... but Band 66 may also not be a huge thing in Indianapolis either meaning there's nothing to test. In other words, the L04 is more compatible on paper... Is it a deal breaker... probably not. Especially when you can get the International Version on amazon.es shipped Global Priority with arrival by April 30th (if not faster) 256GB / 8GB Version for $918 USD... That's a deal... It hard to even find a L04 256GB / 8GB and good luck getting it at that price, even with the exchange rate.
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We do know that the Canadian (Americas Model) has Band 66 as opposed to the International Versions... Its on Huawei site... So that's confirmed... AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 66 (launched 2016, 2017)... not everywhere as it is a newer band. Band 66 is an extension of Band 4.... What does that mean? From what I gather and someone maybe able to clarify that is a little more familiar with it, if a phone supports Band 4 and Band 66, it allows for more LTE headroom which results in faster speeds... not necessarily better reception...
With that said, I have the L29 on T-Mobile... do I notice any differences than the other countless phones I've had... No... but Band 66 may also not be a huge thing in Indianapolis either meaning there's nothing to test. In other words, the L04 is more compatible on paper... Is it a deal breaker... probably not. Especially when you can get the International Version on amazon.es shipped Global Priority with arrival by April 30th (if not faster) 256GB / 8GB Version for $918 USD... That's a deal... It hard to even find a L04 256GB / 8GB and good luck getting it at that price, even with the exchange rate.
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Is that a no?
For me a no, living in Indianapolis. For you, living somewhere else where Band 66, it could be yes it does matter to wait for L04. Really depends on your current phone and cell company, does your current phone support band 66? If no, and you’re fine with it’s connection speeds for 4G LTE then get a L29... it subjective to the person and requires self research...
udaredme said:
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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Might be a trade off....
Canadian Version will probably be a single SIM, but might have the necessary firmware to support AT&T's VoLTE & WiFi calling.
The former is hardware and can not be changed, the later is software/firmware. For me, Dual SIM is a must so it's an easy choice for me.
Why not get the L29 and try to get Canadian firmware? If that's doable...
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Hey guys.
I just made this account because I have a major phone crisis. I was thinking of buying a C5 Ultra to replace my broken phone.
But I'm not sure if the 3G and 4G LTE will work with it? I'm not particularly tech saavy. I asked five different representatives from my phone company and they said yes. I've also talked to two Sony reps and they weren't very helpful.
But I'm still unsure. My phone carrier is Claro (Puerto Rico). This is the info they've provided me with:
3G Operable: 850MHZ, 1900MHZ
4G Operable: 850MHZ-1900MHZ, B4 AWS (1700-2100), B17 (700MHZ), B12 (700MHZ)
Which left me still slightly confused. My band knowledge is basically squat. And I've been pulling my hair trying to make heads or tails of the different statements the reps have told me. They all say it'll work and yet I don't want to spend money on the equipment only to find out it doesn't work.
Anyways if anyone could help me out with this I'd be super grateful.
According to this Wikipedia list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks) your operator seems to be using LTE Band 17.
And according to Xperia C5 Ultra specification white paper from Sony website (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/e5553/whitepaper_EN_e5553_e5506_xperia_c5_ultra.pdf) the only model that supports LTE Band 17 is the E5506 (Single SIM, none of the Dual SIM variants support the LTE Band 17).
When I bought mine the model number was printed on a sticker on the bottom of the box.
Also, I would suggest you double check with your operator whether they’re actually using LTE Band 17.
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According to this Wikipedia...
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They use Band 4, 12 and 17. I've actually asked them extensively about it. My only option would be the E5506, but I've no idea where to buy that -specific- model. I've been searching for almost a month. Sending e-mails and posting on forums, ect. No dice.
Looking at the Wikipedia list it seems that Band 4, 12, and 17 are mostly used in the countries around Northern America.
Based on past releases, Sony has always prioritize the Asian and Europe market first. Northern America model is almost always released last. I guess you'll have to wait.
Of course this is just a guess, I could be wrong.
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Just wanted to update this thread with new info. I'm now in possession of a C5 ultra E5506. I saw it come up on B&H photo and video and immediately bought it. It seems to work with 4G and 3G just fine.
So yes, its out there now. It just took a while.
Hello, this phone was never released in Canada and I am thinking of purchasing one. Problem is I'm not sure what version will work to allow me to get lte signal. I am looking at a unlocked tmobile phone. Would anybody know what versions will work? Sorry for the question but I am not sure how to figure out the bands, and I don't want to purchase something that won't work properly. Thanks for the help!
you can use a T-mobile one just fine. However you must purchase it unlocked. DO NOT under any circumstances buy one that is not confirmed to already be unlocked. You will likely not be able to unlock it yourself. Many of us (myself included) have failed miserably to unlock this particular device.
Hello, thanks for your help! The search for a phone will continue the guy selling the phone doesn't want to ship to Canada. I did find a person selling international version. Just never seen a duel sim phone before so going to do some reading on it. Once again thanks!!!
I have the dual SIM version (h961n) and I'm on Virgin Mobile. Out of the box, it works with full 3G and limited LTE support (2600mhz - works only in Downtown Toronto). However, after rooting and following the LTE band enabling instructions, I was able to get all the LTE bands I need for the network (Band 2, Band 4, etc...). I hope this helps in your search for a phone
Thanks for the help! Going to continue looking for a tmobile or At&t so I hopefully can get full lte without doing any root. Thanks again for the help appreciate it!!!
The Mexican one works for Roger's!
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The Taiwan version of the V10, H962, are all sold unlocked, even those which are sold through carriers. They are bloat free too. Dunno if they can be used I Canada though. But they are all dual sim and have 64gb of internal storage.
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I have the dual SIM version (h961n) and I'm on Virgin Mobile. Out of the box, it works with full 3G and limited LTE support (2600mhz - works only in Downtown Toronto). However, after rooting and following the LTE band enabling instructions, I was able to get all the LTE bands I need for the network (Band 2, Band 4, etc...). I hope this helps in your search for a phone
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Hello, How hard was it to root and make the changes to get LTE bands to work? thanks for the information. I am having a hard time finding a phone out of the US with the exchange rate and the duty and shipping.
Hello,
Can someone tell me if there is any better or worse US version of this phone to purchase when it comes to bloatware? as on ebay the verizon version seem to sell cheaper than the at&t or tmobile version. I like the tmobile version because they don't stamp there logo on the back of the phone. But read there phones get blacklisted alot? any suggestion would be great! Thanks
gbssengo said:
I have the dual SIM version (h961n) and I'm on Virgin Mobile. Out of the box, it works with full 3G and limited LTE support (2600mhz - works only in Downtown Toronto). However, after rooting and following the LTE band enabling instructions, I was able to get all the LTE bands I need for the network (Band 2, Band 4, etc...). I hope this helps in your search for a phone
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How did you manage to enable lte bands? If you can help, or post a link to the forum, that would be great...
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gbssengo said:
I have the dual SIM version (h961n) and I'm on Virgin Mobile. Out of the box, it works with full 3G and limited LTE support (2600mhz - works only in Downtown Toronto). However, after rooting and following the LTE band enabling instructions, I was able to get all the LTE bands I need for the network (Band 2, Band 4, etc...). I hope this helps in your search for a phone
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I have one H962. Do you mind sharing how to enable LTE on it? Thx.
Supposed to have GSM+CDMA + LTE bands for the big 3 (Tmobile, Verizon, ATT : 2/4/5/12/13/17, pentaband 3G)
ATT likes to whitelist phones for LTE/HD Voice (if this phone isn't on their whitelist, you need to jump through hoops to get LTE access, and very difficult get HD Voice/VoLTE to work properly)
Sprint has some issues too(5X/6P doesn't have wifi calling on Sprint), and you kinda want 2xCA/3xCA no sprint, so pointless to talk about them
Verizon - they are required to allow band 13 devices if device passes technical certificate. (points to HTC One A9 and them cancelling Verizon VoLTE support)
T-mobile - They want devices to pass their VoLTE technical cert process. Otherwise they demand manufacturers to disable band 12 (due to concerns of no 911 if you only have band 12 LTE data, and phone doesn't drop to another carrier for 911). Similar issues with Wifi calling (Moto X Pure doesn't have wifi calling)
B&H lists phone to be release in April/May, can't find any FCC docs yet
EDIT
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
Under Q&A, Steve (staff at B&H) says there is band 12 VoLTE support, but do you trust him?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-RS988-Silver-g5
LG actually has it on the website.
I still wouldn't trust B&H nor LG until someone has a RS988 model on hand to confirm it.
The "R" signifies LTE in Rural America, a joint effort between Verizon and various small CDMA operators to improve coverage. Basically, Verizon let these smaller operators set up shop on Band 13, in exchange for on-network roaming (both for Verizon customers on the LRA network, and LRA customers on Verizon's network). Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
I wonder if the LRA model is bootloader unlockable like the T-Mobile model...
b&h said the phone is expected to be released by may 11th, i wander if anyone else is going to sale it?
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Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
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except that this model doesn't support Sprint (missing band 26/41)... oh well
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except that this model doesn't support Sprint (missing band 26/41)... oh well
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Bands 26 and 41 are only needed for tri-band LTE Plus / Spark connectivity. Band 25 (which this LRA model has) is Sprint's primary LTE band. I suspect that either one of the LRA carriers has its own Band 25 network, or has a roaming agreement with Sprint but only has roaming access to Band 25.
For Sprint customers, the bigger issue is whether Sprint will allow it on their network. I recall that when the Moto X Pure was first released, people had to request Sprint to add the device's IMEI to the approved device database in order to use it on Sprint. I suspect that reps won't as easily add another carrier's variant of the G5 to their approved database, when Sprint is selling its own model.
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The "R" signifies LTE in Rural America, a joint effort between Verizon and various small CDMA operators to improve coverage. Basically, Verizon let these smaller operators set up shop on Band 13, in exchange for on-network roaming (both for Verizon customers on the LRA network, and LRA customers on Verizon's network). Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
I wonder if the LRA model is bootloader unlockable like the T-Mobile model...
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Thanks a bunch for this information
I knew for a while something was off with the R and figured it signified something else since the name is so drastically different than the other phones in this lineup.
I went to see the phone in person, it's pretty nice, I like the Titan color, the gold is too light
B&H bootloader
I emailed B&H last week with questions, one concerning bootloader; It took 5 days for an answer but a tech support guy named Adam replied that it was unlocked; I emailed him back, asking if he knew the difference between unlocked sims and bootloader and he replied back and confirmed he did and bootloader was unlocked; This info is likely unreliable but the fact B&H doesn't have a vested interest in carriers and this would give them an edge on sales, we can still have hope. I won't be able to buy one until May when their stock come in though
Wow, it's going to be available on Amazon starting May 1
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DJE22C2...olid=K5RKTG1CO0AE&coliid=I1T763APP0P7E3&psc=1
Guess others will be getting it as well.
Amazon now listed for rs988 G5
thanks for info - looks like the only difference is the color, both same price, free shipping - one more reason to hope LG will allow unlocking bootloader - we will now see how serious is their claim to be "developer friendly" from what I'm hearing lately doesn't seem like US models are included for bootloader unlocking but still hoping.
B&H is silver (last 2 letters of model I'm guessing)
Amazon is titan (dark gray)
also check out the lte bands to be sure they are supported by the carrier you intend to use (mostly look good but a few specialty bands aren't there - there is another xda link to that but I can't remember the thread
The good thing about Shipped and Sold by Amazon.com these devices go on sale quick. For example, the Xperia Z5 went on sale at $599.99 and in about two weeks fell to $539.99.
$600 on Sale would be a nice sweet spot for this phone.
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thanks for info - looks like the only difference is the color, both same price, free shipping - one more reason to hope LG will allow unlocking bootloader - we will now see how serious is their claim to be "developer friendly" from what I'm hearing lately doesn't seem like US models are included for bootloader unlocking but still hoping.
B&H is silver (last 2 letters of model I'm guessing)
Amazon is titan (dark gray)
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You can buy the Titan G5 from B&H, that's what I pre-ordered and it arrived yesterday. I'm using it on AT&T and everything seems to be working fine (no HD Voice, of course, but that's expected when using an unlocked device).
excellent, thanks - so it appears you can get both silver and titan from B&H (probably from Amazon also) Did you see if bootloader was locked (I figured it would be and the salesman who twice told me it was unlocked and that he knew what the bootloader meant, was yanking my chain....
There is an option to OEM Unlock in the developers settings. How to verify bootloader is unlocked?
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sm partition disk:179,0 private worked to make the SD adoptable - migrated data, all looks fine.
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adb reboot bootloader doesn't put it into fastboot mode, adb reboot recovery gives the dead droid logo
The bootloader question would better be answered by the Guru's as it was first thought that the T-Mobile variant was unlocked but turned out not to actually be truly unlocked - I suspect it will be the same as the T-Mobile version - unlockable but not actually unlocked (If LG gives us the codes) I have sent several emails to LG concerning this and basically told them that, if they are truly "developer friendly" now is the time to prove it.... (diplomatically of course) I fear that the idea of modular phones won't take off if they keep the software locked down and don't follow through with the promises.
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You can buy the Titan G5 from B&H, that's what I pre-ordered and it arrived yesterday. I'm using it on AT&T and everything seems to be working fine (no HD Voice, of course, but that's expected when using an unlocked device).
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So did you get my issue with the phone like the reviewers point out? Also did you get headphones in the box?
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So did you get my issue with the phone like the reviewers point out? Also did you get headphones in the box?
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No headphones in the box, just the QuickCharge 3.0 charger and cable. What issue are you referring to?
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No headphones in the box, just the QuickCharge 3.0 charger and cable. What issue are you referring to?
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Awe I was expecting headphones oh well. Issues like screen warp,light bleed , and chin alignment.
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Awe I was expecting headphones oh well. Issues like screen warp,light bleed , and chin alignment.
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I bought this from B&H and I'm not sure about the light bleed (I consider it a fringe issue), but the chin alignment is pretty good and the screen warp is still an issue
Anyone have any luck with getting volte to work on tmobile i have been trying and not having any luck
Hey guys any help with this would be amazing. I grabbed this for really cheap the other day and thought it would be able to use ATT LTE since others have had success but no matter what it will only connect to H+ even when LTE finder finds the band I wanted. Really frusted as I thought I got the right model. There is only ONE international one right? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks you guys. Hopefully I didn't mess up and get a wrong version or something though I can return it if I did.
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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I searched around today and found this. Scroll down to the connectivity part and you see that the phone supports 1 of 5 ATT LTE bands, and 0 of 5 T-Mobile LTE bands. However, I'm not sure if this information is accurate since my phone detects a neighboring band 4 LTE cell tower (which my old phone instantly connected to), but does not connect to it. Also, why is the rest of the forum quiet about this issue? Is it really just me and you that are experiencing it (or that live in the US)? I also am very confused why Huawei removed the USSD code menu option wherein you could force it to LTE. I've heard that changing something in the build.prop can force it, but you need to be rooted for that, and I've gotten bored of rooting phones lol (and the risks involved).
Luckily, for me, this isn't that big of a problem as data still works (albeit slowly), and in the beginning of September I'll be in France for at least a year. So, I made sure that this phone's bands matched up with what the carriers are on in France, so hopefully I should be fine. Otherwise, it's a sleek, awesome phone.
Honor 10 isnt made for US and US bands, even if its the global version. The bands in US are different from those in EU or Asia.
As the guy above confirmed this, the it has just one LTE compatbile band at ATT.
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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Yeap its a bit dead end without unlocking the bootloader. I dont know if by building and compiling original firmware from released sources and make the changes there, if it would allow you to install it.
Yes I too can pick up band 4 on LTE finder on my phone but I cannot use it, if I could then I would have fine coverage. If I go 5 miles away the other half of the city has full ATT LTE 5 coverage so I was bummed LOL when I went up there and saw full bars LTE+ LOL. Yeah the ebay guys are just putting false info then. I have my bootloader code to unlock as I have done to my V10 but not sure how that would enable the other band 4 I need. I don't have quite that much experience.
I don't know if there is something comparable to this available to be done (since Honor 10 has a Kirin and not a qualcomm), but I'm just going to leave this here for now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
I don't know if Honor went the route of having a few more lte bands and just disabling them in software since my phone does detect band 4 lte, but can't connect to it, but what do I know.
I have the same issue on t-mobile network.
From all the research i did it looks like the US bands are software locked. P20 supports all LTE bands (including US) and it runs on the same chipset, Kirin 970. Also as few people said, they are able to see band 4 in LTE discovery (and other apps), I can see it as well, but can't connect.
As for the software to unlock lte bands, there is nothing like that for Kirin right now.
The only option for now is to find the right modem files, edit them and flash to the device. At least that's the only thing that comes to my mind.
I'm digging through source files, which were released by Huawei, whenever i have a chance, but i'm not even sure what I'm looking for.
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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This is my favorite too. I guess Huawei really just wants to push the more pricier p20's in the U.S, even though they aren't really in the U.S. market to begin with anymore. With very similar specs to the P20 pro, the honor 10 would easily take away sales from the P20. Can't stop gearbest though, lol. Anyways, the extent of my modification to an android device was decompiling a rom (I think?), editing in specific MCC/MNC values for an AT&T MVNO in a certain file, recompiling it and flashing it to get 4gLTE back, since my phone thought it was roaming. I'm assuming the software-locked band information is a lot harder to find (or fix). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that HajmeR or others manage to find what we're looking for-maybe I'll even give it a go.
The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
yeah i got my refund already from amazon and looking for a replacement, I don't like phones that are 72 mm or wider they are hard to hold, so my view 10 is tough at 75 mm..........the lg g7 is only 71 mm wide and 6.1 screen which is incredible but VERY pricey and it's LG, we know how they are on updates of ANY kind. I have the P20 lite too, which get's every single band in the USA on GSM, I don't get why the honor 10 was hampered so much because I'm not gonna buy the more expensive P20 i've used one and they are not nearly as nice feeling as the honor 10, the body is totally different not curved at all on back and feels like crap.
So the search is on, lenovo has an 845 with samsung super AMOLED on amazon for 450 with 6 gig RAM and 64 ROM and all the other bells and whistles edcept it's not glass on back which is actually like. I really really wanted the nokia 6.1 plus which is perfect in every way except once again 1,3,5, bands only LOL. So not go again. The Xiaomi A2 lite is interesting, metal back, 4000 ma battery which is insanely big, but then only 2.4 wifi and microusb LOL? 625 processor but only 200 bucks so really a good value and get's every band like the p20 lite.
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The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? Otherwise, you cannot read out the oeminfo partition.
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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Wouldn't you need to pay a third party to unlock it at this point? Or do you keep an unlock code obtained earlier from the days when huawei handled bootloader unlocking? Just wondering. I've kind of learned to suck it up at this point since I'm no longer in the US, so the band issues only affect me when traveling back. However, if there is anyone out there with an unlocked bootloader that can share the oeminfo/know how to understand it, it would be nice to finally figure out if this really is a hardware issue or a software lock.
Evening all,
Just a bit of advice, I'm looking to upgrade from my g8x to the v60. As the european/international version is virtually impossible to find, I'm looking at the unlocked USA variants of this phone. Does anyone have this model in the UK and can confirm that it works on 3g/4g OK? I've found different sources stating that some of the bands aren't present in the USA variants - not bothered about 5g, just as long as I can get 3 and 4g on o2 it's fine. Also tried frequency checker but it doesn't seem to list the v60 on there for some reason...
OK so I've just come across the website Kimovil, this seems to be more helpful - looks like the only one that is going to be any use is the Canadian variant of the phone, the USA versions from t mobile/at+t have most of the bands missing for use in the UK. Explains why they go for far less online!
Interesting have you got a link to that site or have a link of where to buy one that will be good for UK
Also looking to buy a v60 to use on the UK
Kimovil.com
Not really found anything other than links for the USA versions of the phone, they don't seem to have the correct bands for most of the UK networks. I'm just watching eBay and seeing what comes up...
I bought an ATT model, unlocked from Ebay. I live in The Netherlands and my provider, Simyo, uses the KPN network with 800mhz (band 20) and 1800mhz (band 3) for 4G/LTE. After inserting my sim everything worked right away. Calls, data, no problems at all. My provider does not support 5G yet
Edit: be aware that you will not receive updates like android 11 (if on 10) or security updates on the V600AM.
I bought the V600AM, I'm in the UK and I can confirm that it works with O2. The only issue is that phone will switch to 2G when making voice calls,soon after hang up it will switch back to 4G LTE.
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I bought an ATT model, unlocked from Ebay. I live in The Netherlands and my provider, Simyo, uses the KPN network with 800mhz (band 20) and 1800mhz (band 3) for 4G/LTE. After inserting my sim everything worked right away. Calls, data, no problems at all. My provider does not support 5G yet
Edit: be aware that you will not receive updates like android 11 (if on 10) or security updates on the V600AM.
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OK that's useful to know, I'm still not sure about 3g support as where I live in the depths of rural Cornwall we seem to struggle a bit with 4g - it's OK when I'm outside but indoors tends to drop back to 3g, I can use wifi at least. Thanks for the info though
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I bought the V600AM, I'm in the UK and I can confirm that it works with O2. The only issue is that phone will switch to 2G when making voice calls,soon after hang up it will switch back to 4G LTE.
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Yeah, the 3g coverage is a thing for me as I tend to only get 4g when outside, it reverts to 3g indoors and I think that may be an issue for me with this phone as it needs to be a daily driver - as far as I can see the USA variants don't support the right bands for UK use....
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Yeah, the 3g coverage is a thing for me as I tend to only get 4g when outside, it reverts to 3g indoors and I think that may be an issue for me with this phone as it needs to be a daily driver - as far as I can see the USA variants don't support the right bands for UK use....
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You could force the phone to be on "LTE Only" with an app from Gstore,but then you won't be able to receive and make voice calls. Not ideal, but considering this phone is from a US network,it will never be 100% compatible with UK Networks. If only someone would find a solution to root it!!!
Which bands use for UK?
Calls will be via 3g if your region coverage that bands.
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Which bands use for UK?
Calls will be via 3g if your region coverage that bands.
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Yes its supported, before buying ask seller to upgrade to android 11.