New SM-G965U on VZW won't update -- Can I flash new stock firmware without rooting? - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

I got a new S9+ for my wife who does NOT want a rooted phone and all that that entails.
I was active in rooting many years ago, but have not strayed from the straight and narrow for some time.
I have a new unlocked SMG965U (not bought from Verizon) recently activated. It is Android 8.0.0, firmware .....BRK1 (I don't have the phone in front of me at the moment), last (and only) security patch dated Nov 1, 2018. I have noted from Verizon's web site they have moved up to pie, and have had quite a few security updates since that time. Looking for updates on the phone or through Smart Switch tells me the phone is up to date. There's a Verizon-Samsung utility that runs on PC for updating software that give an error message to the effect of "Firmware on phone does not support updating".
So, could someone point me in the right direction to determine, first, if it's possible to update the phone without rooting with stock firmware, and which guide I should use? Does Odin require a rooted phone, or is it simply a matter of me locating the proper update and following Odin directions?
Thanks

Odin does not require root and yes just need the correct update Sam mobile has all the latest files you need to use odin I would go there for what you need

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Trouble Updated [Verizon - US]

Back story: I recently rooted my Droid Razr (it was my first time rooting an Android phone) and completed it without a hitch. However, the update that was released after I rooted downloaded automatically and I became annoyed with the prompt to install now or later. So I unrooted and installed the update. No problems occurred. Fast forward to this morning. A new update is available (it's been available for about a week now, I'd say) and I go to install it. The phone turns back on and says, "Software update has failed!". I am not currently rooted, I've been too busy to re-root the phone. Now I'd like to install this update. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I'd go about doing this?
Thank you for any replies.
Edit: I apologize in advance if this isn't the appropriate section.
Edit 2: I have another question. Is it possible to update a phone's firmware when they are no longer associated with a carrier. I have an older Android phone I'd like to use as a Wifi only phone for apps and such. Am I able to install updates? It seems like the answer would be no, because the phone wouldn't know where to search for the updates. Perhaps a manual install is available?
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Vervizon S4. On MI1,..NEED MJ7. Strange Update. Pls Read.

Okay so I have a regular stock Verizon Samsung Galaxy s4 . I've been using it with my T-Mobile Service & SIM Card in the phone. Works quite Perfect. The original baseband firmware version that I had in my phone was: ME7. I heard that there was an update to "MJ7" that was rolling out, updating the firmware in the phone to android 4.3, along with unlocking some other cool device capabilities such as the other LTE and AWS bands. So naturally I downloaded the Samsung KIES program for my PC in order so I could connect my phone and get the firmware upgrade. Upon connecting my phone Samsung KIES did indeed say that there was a new version available for download that would upgrade my phone to the MJ7 version. I decided backup my phone first before performing the upgrade. After doing so the next day I connected my phone to my computer and opened the KIES program, and it told me that time that the new firmware version available for my phone was MI1!?!? Not MJ7 like it said the day before. I thought that was a bit strange but then I thought that maybe I had to upgrade to that version before I could upgrade to the "MJ7". I allowed it to upgrade my phone to MI1. After it upgraded I went back and checked for another update and now it is telling me that I have the most current firmware version in my phone..."MI1". I rebooted my phone and PC several times and checked for updates and it still hasn't daid that MJ7 was available! What have I done to you? Did I do something wrong? Why did Samsung Kies initially tell me that MJ7 was available but now it will not anymore, after updating to MI1 ( the version that it told me was the most current release) this all happened on this past saturday and sunday. I would definitely appreciate any help whatsoever in uncovering this firmware update mystery, and the ability to update my phone to firmware version MJ7. Not only do I want the Android 4.3 but since I am using this phone on tmobile it will give me extra functionality to use the LTE BANDS on GSM instead of just 3G or H+. Thanks in advance to all!
-Rob
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
foutu82 said:
Okay so I have a regular stock Verizon Samsung Galaxy s4 . I've been using it with my T-Mobile Service & SIM Card in the phone. Works quite Perfect. The original baseband firmware version that I had in my phone was: ME7. I heard that there was an update to "MJ7" that was rolling out, updating the firmware in the phone to android 4.3, along with unlocking some other cool device capabilities such as the other LTE and AWS bands. So naturally I downloaded the Samsung KIES program for my PC in order so I could connect my phone and get the firmware upgrade. Upon connecting my phone Samsung KIES did indeed say that there was a new version available for download that would upgrade my phone to the MJ7 version. I decided backup my phone first before performing the upgrade. After doing so the next day I connected my phone to my computer and opened the KIES program, and it told me that time that the new firmware version available for my phone was MI1!?!? Not MJ7 like it said the day before. I thought that was a bit strange but then I thought that maybe I had to upgrade to that version before I could upgrade to the "MJ7". I allowed it to upgrade my phone to MI1. After it upgraded I went back and checked for another update and now it is telling me that I have the most current firmware version in my phone..."MI1". I rebooted my phone and PC several times and checked for updates and it still hasn't daid that MJ7 was available! What have I done to you? Did I do something wrong? Why did Samsung Kies initially tell me that MJ7 was available but now it will not anymore, after updating to MI1 ( the version that it told me was the most current release) this all happened on this past saturday and sunday. I would definitely appreciate any help whatsoever in uncovering this firmware update mystery, and the ability to update my phone to firmware version MJ7. Not only do I want the Android 4.3 but since I am using this phone on tmobile it will give me extra functionality to use the LTE BANDS on GSM instead of just 3G or H+. Thanks in advance to all!
-Rob
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
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I read something about Samsung pulling the 4.3 update for some carriers... due to an issue with the Wi-Fi maybe? It may have shown up on Kies, then been pulled. I'm sure it will be back once they get the issues sorted out. Or you could possibly look for an update.zip on here and manually do the update yourself

T-Mobile OTA Update and CF Auto Root?

I got notification this morning that my S6 Edge was delivered to my office this morning! I'm on my way there.
I've downloaded Chainfire's Auto-Root in preparation of my S6 Edge.
My question is...
T-Mobile already issued an OTA update right out of the box, according to "the internet".
Should I:
1) OTA Update and then Root
2) Root and then OTA Update
3) Root and don't OTA Update
4) OTA update and don't Root, but wait a little while longer to make sure all the proper files are available
Thanks for any guidance...
My 2 cents: Don't take the OTA & don't root it either... Wait for few days till everybody (or especially the dev's) have their devices to see what's the best option.
if you are certain that you are going to root it, then just root the phone..
no reason to EVER take a OTA update, once the development starts on this phone, any thing good that is part of a t mobile update will be added in by the devs..
If you want to root it, I would do it first and hold off on the OTA until the full tarball is made available.
That probably won't be for a few weeks until the official release.
One note: You're probably going to need this version of Odin. Seems like other versions aren't working properly:
http://www.rwilco12.com/Files/Misc Files/Odin3/Odin3 v3.10.6.zip
As someone who dove right in with the OTA and root, let me tell you my experience with the S6 Edge. First, the version of Odin that comes with the auto root does not work. You need to download 3.10.06. Then, when I pushed the autoroot for the S6 Edge, my device got hung on the initial splash screen and would never progress. After thinking I bricked my device, I decided to try the autoroot version for the regular S6. I pushed that and everything went through flawlessly. So, in short I am now on the latest OTA and rooted.

AT&T Galaxy S9+ Update order.

S9+ Update help
Hello I have an AT&T S9+ That was stuck on the ARF4 Version, using Firmware.science I was able to get it to version ARG8, my goal is to get to Android Pie.
My question is, should I keep updating following the order on Firmware.science, or should I update from ARG8 to ARI6 to ARIB to RJ5 until I get to SAG Like in the table here in this AT&T Article?
https://www.att.com/devicehowto/tut...89?make=Samsung&model=SamsungG965U&gsi=1p0npl
If your going to install android 9 using the patched Odin and downloads from SamMobile/SamFirm/etc then I would just update using the latest update.
I would suggest using the non home_csc if you do. This will cause the phone to act like it was factory data reset, but it will ensure that all of the update has been applied. Granted you will have to reinstall everything, so if you have any backups via Samsung Smart Switch it could help cut down the time spent restoring your data.
Again it's a suggestion, you could probably use the other CSC file, but I have found that doing so could lead into problems... at least on mine it had, but only for the software update via OTA. Since I plan on using SamFirm/Odin for updates I am not concerned about it.
Using this route would give you the current OS release and all updates in one go... its not like an incremental update that you have to apply in a specific order (like with some Windows OS updates and hotfixes)

My S9+ running Oreo claims it's up to date. Best method to manually update?

I just purchased a used AT&T SM-G965U. My carrier is Google Fi. It's running Android 8.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0. Build number is G965USQU3BRK1. Last security patch was November 1, 2018. When I try to update OTA or with Smart Switch both claim my phone is up to date.
I started looking into how I might manually update the phone and found some instructional pages for updating via ODIN, but was not able to find the correct firmware to update to Pie using that method. I did however find a thread on the XDA forums with a download link for an SM-G965U Pie build. Someone posted in that thread that it is possible to update the phone with a micro SD in recovery mode. Even with that being the case the firmware.science page linked in the thread specifically says that the firmware will update my phone from version G965USQS3BRK2 to version G965USQU3CSAB. This seems like a problem since my phone is running G965USQU3BRK1 which I assume is an older build based on the BRK1 designation. Will this update method even work with my phone? Do I need to update to BRK2 before I use the firmware linked in the thread? If so is the BRK2 firmware available for download anywhere? Or failing that is there an ODIN firmware update available?
Update: I tried updating via micro SD in recovery mode using a firmware update downloaded from firmware.science that is supposed to update my SM-G965U from version G965USQU3BRK1
to version G965USQU3CSA5. The update was aborted due to "unexpected contents". I transcribed the error at the bottom of this post. Not sure what else I can do if I can't find an ODIN firmware. If I used the modifed ODIN to flash my phone with U1 firmware would that enable updates through normal (OTA/Smart Switch) channels?
E3005: "EMMC://dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modem:83300864:2d921fc2a30290a4f894ef4e5528ab83263913ec:84005376: 12c0577b202561c4a0732793bdbaf3a04eca67f0" has unexpected contents.
E:Error in /sideload/package.zip (Status 7)
Installation Aborted.#1
Update 2: I managed to find the ODIN firmware update files and successfully flashed my phone with a Pie build. Disregard this post.
I'm having the identical problem, only with Verizon SM-G965U. Android 8.0.0, last security update Nov 2018. Can someone guide me to the solution?
Thanks
DIncLover said:
I'm having the identical problem, only with Verizon SM-G965U. Android 8.0.0, last security update Nov 2018. Can someone guide me to the solution?
Thanks
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What firmware are you currently on?
I've done a bit of research since I first posted this and think I know what's going on. This phone was supposedly new, unlocked. Then I found out SM-G965U is actually locked. It booted up with Verizon logo and worked on Verizon network, so I was ok with that. When I checked the firmware version, it was ....BRK1 (I don't have the phone in front of me), which I looked up to be Sprint firmware! This would explain why it doesn't get updates on Verizon's network, wouldn't it? How this came to be, I don't know, but I think I can proceed by getting a later Oreo or maybe Pie version for VZW and flashing it with Odin.
Comments, if any, are welcome.
If memory serves correctly if your firmware is a certain amount of revisions behind what is currently released then the OTA update and samsung switch will say your firmware is up to date. Even though it obviously is not up to date, it has something to do with how far behind in updates the phone is.
In which case you should be able to update your phone using the patched ODIN and the firmware files found on sammobile or via samfirm app. Thee files from sammobile or samfirm are not ones you can flash via SD card in the recovery menu, the OTA files and what are offered on sammobile or samfirm app (and from here unless otherwise specified) are two different things.
I would note that you might have to factory data reset your phone after flashing the new firmware. It's one possible result of flashing a newer firmware to a phone that has an older firmware like that installed.

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