UFS 3.0 ? - Sony Xperia 1 Questions & Answers

Guys can’t find any information about it.
Which UFS storage Sony Xperia 1 using ? 3.0 or old 2.1 ?
Regards

If it was 3.0 Sony would include this information in marketing, so we unfortunately have 2.1. That's my guess

Indeed x1 is using ufs 2.1. Almost all flagahips using version 2.1. OnePlus 7 is exception, it is using 3.0, however it has some problems with screen and mediocre cameras.

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Will it get Android M?

I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
Why you replace your phone?
saarxee said:
Why you replace your phone?
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I'm giving the Zenfone 2 to someone else
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we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
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we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
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I understand. But I found out that redmi devices never gets upgrade other than weekly updates. Redmi devices stays on whatever version it came with. With this case on the note 3 pro it's 5.1 forever
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better look for other device.
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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When did they say this actually? Im kinda curious xD
ImjuzCY said:
Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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http://en.miui.com/thread-252473-1-1.html
you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
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you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
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Ahhhh I remember you from the ZF2 subforum. I know for sure hardware side it is an upgrade. From the software side I'm not sure because I didn't use Xiaomi devices before. But from opinions of a few users above including you, I think RMN2P software will not be worse than the ZF2. It'd just that maybe RMN2P will get Android M later than the ZF2 since xiaomi still didn't release plan to upgrade it.
And I don't care about applock, but what I meant in OP is that the lastpass app itself do support firstprint but previously it doesn't work with xiaomi's fingerprint sensor because xiaomi didn't release API to the developers. But recently it worked, so it's okay now.
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As the kernel source is released yesterday..we can get custom roms with in a month...as the cm12.1 already available in alpha stage developed by Santhosh MM....as u can see in that thread he said its time for cm13....as i saw his development for many devices he even made roma for my previous device yureka he is fast in developing roms...we can get stable cm13 for rn3 with in a month for sure..
I also sold my Asus Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) and purchased Redmi Note 3 (snapdragon with 3gb/32gb). This mobile is far way better in RAM management and battery backup when compared to my zenny. Camera is awesome in zenny, but for a price of 12,000 INR we should not expect much.
ImjuzCY said:
I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
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if you want regular android updates go for moto g4 !!!! becoz redmi devices don't get android version update but only miui ver updates ! But I am gonna buy this and flash mokee 6.0.1 official !!! mokee rocks !!!
Xiaomi will get Android 6 Marshmallow and it is said by Xiaomi since the MIUI Forums said that MIUI 8 (Android 6) will be released in 17 of June.
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I would ofcourse like android 6, but if you are on miui does it really make a big difference? Ofcourse you will miss a few new android features if it doesn't upgrade to M, however, atleast there are other regular updates and system security patches right?
On my samsung tab4 i received just one firmware update and i think after that any official development was discontinued.

Realme 3 pro or RN7 Pro

I need to buy phone for someone who is not very tech savvy. After doing multiple rounds of research, I have zero'ed in on Realme 3 pro or Redmi Note 7 Pro.
RN7 Pro over RM3 pro: Splash resistance, better 4g+ (3CA vs 2CA), more community support (if it comes to changing ROM, however I doubt, probably would be used all stock), type C USB
RM3 Pro over RN7 Pro: Dedicated microSD card slot, MIUI is bloated on RN7p
I'm unsure about camera, but I think RM3p has better camera than rn7p (both front & back)
Now I'm posting in Realme forums means i'm inching towards Realme, just wanted to know if there are any major problems with this set ? How is the ROM, is it stable for daily use?
I know RM5 pro is also around the corner, but I feeling buying a new phone can be risky as there is no feedback of actual product.
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I need to buy phone for someone who is not very tech savvy. After doing multiple rounds of research, I have zero'ed in on Realme 3 pro or Redmi Note 7 Pro.
RN7 Pro over RM3 pro: Splash resistance, better 4g+ (3CA vs 2CA), more community support (if it comes to changing ROM, however I doubt, probably would be used all stock), type C USB
RM3 Pro over RN7 Pro: Dedicated microSD card slot, MIUI is bloated on RN7p
I'm unsure about camera, but I think RM3p has better camera than rn7p (both front & back)
Now I'm posting in Realme forums means i'm inching towards Realme, just wanted to know if there are any major problems with this set ? How is the ROM, is it stable for daily use?
I know RM5 pro is also around the corner, but I feeling buying a new phone can be risky as there is no feedback of actual product.
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Hello @Mafioso
I just received Realme 3 Pro 6/128gb model. Previously i was using Redmi Note 7 non Pro version because the Pro version is only indian exclusive. So if i compared it with RN7, yes Realme 3 Pro is better in some ways. But yes there is very little android development for RM3P.
Here are some Pros and Cons of RM3P
Pros of RM3P:
- Fast, latest and battery efficient chip
- Far better cameras than RN7 (but i heard that RN7P camers are way better than normal RN7, but never tested by myself)
- Very little android development
- Vooc charging and vooc charger is also included in the box.
And maybe more
Cons:
- Completely Plastic made
- No type C port
- maybe more
Conclusion
So, if you are a guy who want to flash different roms than RM3P is not for you. But overall a good device with good hardware that can handle everyday task easily and a good battery.
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After 3 months of using realme 3 pro I suggest you buy redminote 7 pro. It's not a bad phone, but the OS color is still unripe ... MIUI is much better and well optimized.
Realme 5 pro if you want color os or redmi note 7 pro for miui, miui is more stable in day to day usage and snappy.

Is anyone still using the Mi Pad 2?

Hello, I still have my Mi Pad 2 (16GB) laying around and i've been thinking about replacing its battery and then install some sort of alternative OS such as Ubuntu, Chrome OS, Android x86 etc... I saw some topics here and on other websites but only a few people actually got those OS's working but didn't provide any instructions whatsoever.
Is someone still interested in this device? If so, any help and support would be appreciated.
Yes, I am still using it. I had already replaced the batteries once.
Trying to find a good custom ROM.
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Yes, I am still using it. I had already replaced the batteries once.
Trying to find a good custom ROM.
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Is it easy to replace the battery? I'm thinking about getting a new one. Btw, what ROM are you using at the moment?
Yes I am ,but i flash win10 2004 . and Improved heat dissipation,Now, the only issue is the shortened battery standby, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it!
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Yes I am ,but i flash win10 2004 . and Improved heat dissipation,Now, the only issue is the shortened battery standby, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it!
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I'm also willing to try Windows 10 2004, but a lightweight version because my Mi Pad 2 is the 16GB version. How did you install that on yours? With a USB dongle with USB stick and keyboard like a regular computer?
Also, how did you improve heat dissipation?
By the way, does anyone know if it's possible to desolder the eMMC and replace it with a high capacity one? Like 64 or 128GB?
I still use my Mi Pad 2, mainly for reading. But been looking into bringing up Android N to this tablet (there is at least one Intel Atom nougat kernel source available, which might come in handy) and also around 3-4 different tablets running Nougat on Intel Atom (so we can try to use those blobs). Bliss OS is an option as well (as per the guide(s) on this forum). One approach could be to assist the Bliss OS team in squashing the bugs for the Mi Pad 2. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to let me know.
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I still use my Mi Pad 2, mainly for reading. But been looking into bringing up Android N to this tablet (there is at least one Intel Atom nougat kernel source available, which might come in handy) and also around 3-4 different tablets running Nougat on Intel Atom (so we can try to use those blobs). Bliss OS is an option as well (as per the guide(s) on this forum). One approach could be to assist the Bliss OS team in squashing the bugs for the Mi Pad 2. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to let me know.
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I'm a bit "desperate" to have a good OS available for this device because otherwise it's basically a paper weight for me. Stock MIUI was always flawed and slow and in my case Windows is pretty limited since I only have 16 gigs. And yeah, I'm available to discuss this further, it would be a pleasure.
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I'm a bit "desperate" to have a good OS available for this device because otherwise it's basically a paper weight for me. Stock MIUI was always flawed and slow and in my case Windows is pretty limited since I only have 16 gigs. And yeah, I'm available to discuss this further, it would be a pleasure.
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Have you ever tried the AOSP rom (it's seems to be a developer rom from Xiaomi) for Mi Pad 2?
I'm currently using MIUI 9.6.2.0 Mod from LVware it's working fine.
The only Android N kernel source for Cherry Trail devices available is the Grandstream GXV3380 http://www.grandstream.com/support/resources/?title=GXV3380 (scroll down to GXV3380 GNU GPL). Grandstream writes its rom is Android 7 based, so the kernel source must be Nougat based (I only write this, because a Cherry Trail nougat source has never been released, so this is huge. I even think it is able to compile based on the archive contents). I only came by this by searching for Cherry Trail devices on Geekbench Browser. Would like to compare this kernel source to the Lollipop Mi Pad 2 one.
In terms of an Android Marshmallow Cherry Trail kernel source, I could only find the Panasonic Toughpad Android 6 (PANASONIC FZ-A2A): https://panasonic.net/cns/oss/tabletcomputer/FZB2D001.html .. It's worth mentioning that Amazon has made the Amazon Echo Show (2nd Gen) kernel source available as well (5.5.3.9-20200618.tar.bz2), but I think it's Lollipop based: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201626480 (scroll down to Echo Show (2nd Generation). The Nougat kernel source might be released, as the latest software version available is 655636620 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201602210) and according to Wiki the 6.x.x.x builds are Nougat based. I know it's confusing, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#cite_note-4
In terms of blobs, there are plenty of devices to borrow from. Medion has 4 tablets that have been updated from Lollipop -> Marshmallow -> Nougat. The same with Getac, which has two models the MX50 and the ZX70. Lenovo has a few Cherry Trail devices as well upgraded to Nougat, which can be borrowed from.
Palm Trees said:
Have you ever tried the AOSP rom (it's seems to be a developer rom from Xiaomi) for Mi Pad 2?
I'm currently using MIUI 9.6.2.0 Mod from LVware it's working fine.
The only Android N kernel source for Cherry Trail devices available is the Grandstream GXV3380 http://www.grandstream.com/support/resources/?title=GXV3380 (scroll down to GXV3380 GNU GPL). Grandstream writes its rom is Android 7 based, so the kernel source must be Nougat based (I only write this, because a Cherry Trail nougat source has never been released, so this is huge. I even think it is able to compile based on the archive contents). I only came by this by searching for Cherry Trail devices on Geekbench Browser. Would like to compare this kernel source to the Lollipop Mi Pad 2 one.
In terms of an Android Marshmallow Cherry Trail kernel source, I could only find the Panasonic Toughpad Android 6 (PANASONIC FZ-A2A): https://panasonic.net/cns/oss/tabletcomputer/FZB2D001.html .. It's worth mentioning that Amazon has made the Amazon Echo Show (2nd Gen) kernel source available as well (5.5.3.9-20200618.tar.bz2), but I think it's Lollipop based: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201626480 (scroll down to Echo Show (2nd Generation). The Nougat kernel source might be released, as the latest software version available is 655636620 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201602210) and according to Wiki the 6.x.x.x builds are Nougat based. I know it's confusing, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#cite_note-4
In terms of blobs, there are plenty of devices to borrow from. Medion has 4 tablets that have been updated from Lollipop -> Marshmallow -> Nougat. The same with Getac, which has two models the MX50 and the ZX70. Lenovo has a few Cherry Trail devices as well upgraded to Nougat, which can be borrowed from.
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Yep, I've tried the AOSP ROM but it gets really slow after a bit. It's almost impossible to multitask because it can't handle more than 2 apps. Never heard about that MIUI ROM though, do you have a link for it? is it good?
About the sources i'll be completely honest. I have limited expertise on this subject but seeing all that makes me think that it's not that impossible to make a good ROM for our device (am i wrong?), so what's limiting us? People with knowledge? More sources? What's the next step?
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does the touch keyboard move content up now?
hi my mipad 2 get error bootloader 03, and have option to press vol up to boot normal. after that, the mipad always turn off like drain battery but when I plug the charger is already full. can any one help me? thanks
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does the touch keyboard move content up now?
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holy ****ing **** I know exactly what you mean. windows 8 does it. windows 8 is great.
i've been messing with 8 on it, and it's literally orgasmicly good. 10 is still my main OS because some drivers are missing, but the whole of it works really well.
oh, and using gibson's inspectre.exe to disable spectre and meltdown protections was THE thing to finally get the performance that seemingly disappeared. thats because it did disappear! also seems to help with RAM usage enormously
and I cut the plastic insulator between the motherboard and the rear case. filled in the gap with a thermal pad pretty much right on the CPU. 2.24 GHz base clocks now baby!
and this CPU is around a 7W TDP for anyone wondering. intel says 2W SDP, I say 4W SDP is probably closer to reality. 2W is at the base 1.44 GHz tho, but mine is at 2.24 GHz all the time.
I still have my 2GB RAM 16GB internal MiPad2 and working with shortened battery life and some limited app functionality (G.Play doesn't work/update for eg).
I want to use it primarily as a book/manga reader as well as a media player of sorts.
I saw the recommended custom ROMs list here but any advice on which is ideal for this device based on its limited hardware?
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I still have my 2GB RAM 16GB internal MiPad2 and working with shortened battery life and some limited app functionality (G.Play doesn't work/update for eg).
I want to use it primarily as a book/manga reader as well as a media player of sorts.
I saw the recommended custom ROMs list here but any advice on which is ideal for this device based on its limited hardware?
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i installed a light version of windows 10 on mine and it works surprising well. I have around 8gb to play with
That's cool! Performance is ok?
So would app installation then be via the Microsoft Store or can you still install via Google Play?
Are the instructions for the Windows 10 Lite flashing detailed somewhere on this forum?
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i installed a light version of windows 10 on mine and it works surprising well. I have around 8gb to play with
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Hello,
can you really install Windows 10 on Mipad 2 2 / 16Gb based on Android?
I have a Mipad 2 2/64 based on Android, and I want to replace it with Windows 10, would you like to share the method with me?
I still use this little tablet as a second screen/device playing video's on the desk when im working on my laptop. The screen is still really nice: bright and crisp. Mine has Windows 10 installed which is barely useable, usually everything feels kinda slow, but it does work. The biggest problem was that it thermal throtteled after normal use, so what helps is if you do a cooling mod. It's not that hard, I cut a square out of the shroud thats covering the CPU and placed a thick thermal pad over the CPU so it touches the outer metal housing. This greatly improved CPU/GPU performance and solved the thermal issue. The housing doesn't even get that hot when you stress the tablet. It now plays video's no problem all day long, where it would stutter after while without the mod...
Don't expect any miracles though, it's still an Atom with a slow eMMC drive and only 2GB of RAM. Windows is just too heavy for it sometimes. A newer version of Android would probably be a better fit. What also helps is if you debloat Windows a little: https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10
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That's cool! Performance is ok?
So would app installation then be via the Microsoft Store or can you still install via Google Play?
Are the instructions for the Windows 10 Lite flashing detailed somewhere on this forum?
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Performance is fine i guess. I think it gave a new life to my Mi Pad 2 even though i haven't been using it lately. App instalation is via Microsoft Store of course, or via .exe installers just like a PC.
I'm wondering if it will be possible to install Windows 10X on it. That would be very cool.
As for the instructions, i used an old tutorial from the Xiaomi forums to change from Android to Windows and then I installed that Windows 10 lite from Ghostspectre using a USB stick just like a regular PC
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Hello,
can you really install Windows 10 on Mipad 2 2 / 16Gb based on Android?
I have a Mipad 2 2/64 based on Android, and I want to replace it with Windows 10, would you like to share the method with me?
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That's right, my 2/16 Mi Pad 2 is running Windows 10.
I found the link for the tutorial. Sadly it's offline, but Wayback Machine can open it just fine, except the pictures. Surprisingly, the download link is still online too but it's pretty big (7 gigs).
If anyone needs that, i can send the two links through PM

Vivo System and Security update Frequency??

Biggest drawback of Vivo mobile devices are its lack of system (Android and Funtouch bug fixes) and security updates OTA delivery compare to other brands (Realme, MI, Samsung,..)
Is there anything we can do to **PUSH** Vivo to make them accountable to provide better and faster software updates????
Due to this Vivo devices gets out dated too soon in market... And you end up looking for another brand device.
Unfortunately, Vivo does not realise this hampers there own brand value.
Thia was one of the biggest reason I moved away / refrain buying Huawei and specially Lenovo, LG, Motorola phones as all of them had very poor after sale software update Frequency..
Teribium said:
Biggest drawback of Vivo mobile devices are its lack of system (Android and Funtouch bug fixes) and security updates OTA delivery compare to other brands (Realme, MI, Samsung,..)
Is there anything we can do to **PUSH** Vivo to make them accountable to provide better and faster software updates????
Due to this Vivo devices gets out dated too soon in market... And you end up looking for another brand device.
Unfortunately, Vivo does not realise this hampers there own brand value.
Thia was one of the biggest reason I moved away / refrain buying Huawei and specially Lenovo, LG, Motorola phones as all of them had very poor after sale software update Frequency..
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I did some more research and seems Funtouch has improved a lot in terms of experience and ease of usage. Still require some quirks clean-up
However, X50 and X50 pro updates were very slow
So, if you buy Vivo's latest and greatest phone running on Funtouch or Android 11 there is no guarantee you will get Android 12 ( or on time). I couldn't find, on Vivo official site update release plan list anywhere.
Also what is the story of Origin OS ?? How Vivo's development team focusing on improving Funtouch or Origin OS??
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I did some more research and seems Funtouch has improved a lot in terms of experience and ease of usage. Still require some quirks clean-up
However, X50 and X50 pro updates were very slow
So, if you buy Vivo's latest and greatest phone running on Funtouch or Android 11 there is no guarantee you will get Android 12 ( or on time). I couldn't find, on Vivo official site update release plan list anywhere.
Also what is the story of Origin OS ?? How Vivo's development team focusing on improving Funtouch or Origin OS??
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Funtouch is developed for non Chinese market (stock based)
OriginOS is only for chinese devices
Funtouch global is more updated then chinese one. X51 (european version of X50 Pro) is on Android 11 from december and has March patches

Question Thoughts on Realme UI 3.0?

What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
I am happy with the global rom, except for a few areas.
1. USB C to 3.5mm adapter is quiet, fixed with a command (need root)
2. Camera's autofocus is bad in some scenarios
The CN rom is filled with the worst kind of bloatware. Every app wants to track your usage, including the realme UI apps. If I remember it correctly, even calculator or some other most basic app requested permissions
Despite global Rom being cleaner, there were still a few bloatware apps that I had to remove like HeyTap Cloud or Quick Device Connect among others.
So to answer your question, stock Rom is good enough but needs a bit of tweaking.
I hope the eu rom is the same as the global rom, but to summarize, the stock rom is good if you can tweak it with root. Am I right?
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What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
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Love it.
Iam ex-MIUI user, since 2017 (Redmi 4x, Redmi 5, Mi Mix 2, Mix 2s, Mi 8, Mi 9, Mi 10,...) , started with MIUI 7 or 8 global (i guess), later custom MIUIos roms (EU project, without bloatware, better optimization, different ram management, etc), and this is my first phone without MIUI. I was very worried, but for nothing.
I have EU non-root version, bloatware and google apps - done in 5 minutes without complications, OS is fast, pure, without bugs and any similar problems (team MIUI knows...), after month iam very satisfied.
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
Quake94 said:
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
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Why should I get the cn version? If I recall I saw people getting issues when flashing it with global so I think that any version should be fine since with eu it's rootable through an exploit
CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
Quake94 said:
CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
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But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
Pf_Plays06 said:
But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
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The exploit is only needed to unlock the bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked there's no difference between the various global models with regard to root.

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