Different camera modules ? - Motorola One Questions & Answers

Hi,
I've just received and setup my new Motorola One. To my surprise, when I take a photo with main camera the EXIF shows the camera module has f 2.2 lens.... which of course makes low light photos a little bit dark.
All the reviews and official specification shows the main lens is f 2.0 and now I'm a little bit confused. I know that the secondary (front, selfie) lens has f 2.2 aperture.
Could you check please what does your EXIF show ?
Thanks in advance

You're right. Exif says it's f/2.2.
Does it have anything to do with the secondary 5MP depth cam being f/2.4 ?
I have no idea how that stuff works

Maybe it's just the EXIF tagging error... Thanks for checking this for me, anyway

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Camera takes blurry photos

Hello, my camera produce photos horrible quality. Is there a fix?
Thank you
I always have to tap the screen to focus on what I want in focus for my pics to be clear have you tried that?
Of course.
carreaum said:
Hello, my camera produce photos horrible quality. Is there a fix?
Thank you
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Well, it's a Motorola -of course the camera is crap
But to be honest, the photos your Razr is taking are much worse than normal.
I assume that you have cleaned the lens and set the exposure time to automatic and that you hold the camera still while taking a photo. Furthermore you wait until the rectangle that shows the focus becomes green.
So it could be a hardware problem -maybe the lens does not fit correctly or it's another failure during assembling. In this case you should get a replacement.
It could also be a software problem, I'd try to download a free camera software from the market, place your phone on a rigid surface and shoot a photo. Does it look as blurry as the previous ones I guess you should get a replacement.
I attached two photos I made right now...colour reproduction isn't good with Moto cameras but sharpness should not be a problem.
I tried other camera apps (camera zoom fx, camera ultimate 360) and result is the same.
I read elsewhere that someone else DL'd the Camera Zoom FX app and it made a world of difference.

Camera quality,is this what I should be getting?

I had done a camera firmware update
Thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098834
(New Camera Firmware Update Now- 27th May 2011 [APK HERE] [POST YOUR FW VERSIONS])
I am confused,if I shall be receiving better quality images and videos
Are others getting the same kind of quality? better or worst?
Camera specs:-
Cam FW Ver : SCEE09
Phone FW Ver : TBEC28
ISP Ver : Fujitsu M5MOLS
Still Image (click for full size)
Snaps from videos (click for full size)
Any help or info will be appreciated
I believe it's to improve quality for i9100 that were manufactured in China, some software faults in the camera or something in that nature and the firmware update should fix that, so your images *should* be better, although there's no guarantee that there would be massive changes in quality.
It looks like you are taking pictures in low light + flash on. Generally they won't look as good as pics in good lighting conditions.
Also, I always wipe the lens before takings pics. It can get very greasy from touching etc and wiping it definitely helps.
And just check your settings. Make sure macro focus is off or it won't focus correctly.
Edit: looks like you are taking close range pics. Make sure you tap the screen to focus. And for close up shots, macro focus works best.
Sent from my GT-I9100T

8MP Camera not 8MP?

Sorry, I seem to bombard you guys with questions (and seem to answer them myself ), but that's not the problem. The problem is with my HTC One X+ not taking 8MP camera (and apps not recognizing the camera as 8MP)... including the main stock HTC One X+ camera app... or so it seems. I've tried Camera Zoom FX which recognizes up to 8MP and it went up to 5.1MP for my camera... a different app went up to 6MP, but mostly it's 5MP (as the best quality for my camera).
All my pictures that I take are very noisy and not clear (file size anywhere between .6 - 1.2MB)... that is not good. Resolution is 3264x1840 (or vise versa if it's vertical).
I don't know what the deal might be... is the camera failing on me (Camera on my previous Samsung Galaxy S3 failed completely... wouldn't open at all)... don't know how the cameras seem to die on me... I do take a lot of pictures, but most of the pictures I've taken are bad quality and very noisy... really really really disappointing since I value the camera a lot... I chose this phone for the 8MP (was afraid of the 4 UltraPixels of One so I went with regular 8MP)... now I regret, seen I'm getting a terrible quality 5MP pictures. (I've seen 5MP phone cameras take MUCH better photos then my "8MP" camera).
elitezenithweb said:
Sorry, I seem to bombard you guys with questions (and seem to answer them myself ), but that's not the problem. The problem is with my HTC One X+ not taking 8MP camera (and apps not recognizing the camera as 8MP)... including the main stock HTC One X+ camera app... or so it seems. I've tried Camera Zoom FX which recognizes up to 8MP and it went up to 5.1MP for my camera... a different app went up to 6MP, but mostly it's 5MP (as the best quality for my camera).
All my pictures that I take are very noisy and not clear (file size anywhere between .6 - 1.2MB)... that is not good. Resolution is 3264x1840 (or vise versa if it's vertical).
I don't know what the deal might be... is the camera failing on me (Camera on my previous Samsung Galaxy S3 failed completely... wouldn't open at all)... don't know how the cameras seem to die on me... I do take a lot of pictures, but most of the pictures I've taken are bad quality and very noisy... really really really disappointing since I value the camera a lot... I chose this phone for the 8MP (was afraid of the 4 UltraPixels of One so I went with regular 8MP)... now I regret, seen I'm getting a terrible quality 5MP pictures. (I've seen 5MP phone cameras take MUCH better photos then my "8MP" camera).
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What rom are you on?
Also the noisy pictures thing may be caused by the fact that the back cover of the camera has a coating that gets scratched really easy and you should remove it, search in the Q&A forum on how to.
The "8MP camera bug" is one of many annoying bugs introduced in the only HOX+ update. The problem is that HTC messed one file in which there are available photo size options. That way NO external camera app will use full 8 MP. Only 5, 5.1 or 6 (square) MP. However, the stock camera should take full 8MP pictures, I can prove it. Check camera options.
This bug can be fixed if you have root access. I found a tutorial about this here at XDA, but after many, many google searches and I have no idea where it is now.
Install zero compression mod, lyaporta camera mod, 8mp photos are in 4:3, pretty sure widescreen or 16:9 option is only 6mp, as it crops the top and bottom instead of making the sides wider.
Ranomez said:
What rom are you on?
Also the noisy pictures thing may be caused by the fact that the back cover of the camera has a coating that gets scratched really easy and you should remove it, search in the Q&A forum on how to.
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thanks I'll look for it...
ryanjsoo said:
Install zero compression mod, lyaporta camera mod, 8mp photos are in 4:3, pretty sure widescreen or 16:9 option is only 6mp, as it crops the top and bottom instead of making the sides wider.
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Thanks, I will try that and let you know how it's going
The reason I'm looking for a new camera app is because the stock camera takes photos of terrible quality
ryanjsoo said:
Install zero compression mod, lyaporta camera mod, 8mp photos are in 4:3, pretty sure widescreen or 16:9 option is only 6mp, as it crops the top and bottom instead of making the sides wider.
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Sorry, I can't seem to find the lyaporta camera mod anywhere on XDA... I found a few posts that refers to it, but can't find anything else.
Is this the zero compression mod? If so, how do I flash it? Just put it on my sdcard and install it VIA TWRP? Also, how could I make a back-up of the current camera library? (I use sense 5 and the stock one that they offer there is for sense 4... or does it not matter and I can update it back to be compatible with sense 5?)
Thanks for your awesome help so far!!! I'm pretty new at this.
Zero Compression
Well, I tried that zero compression mod thing that I linked above and it does make the file size larger (also changed crop to regular and resolution to 4:3) and the image seems to be a little bit better but if you zoom in it's so noisy, it's just bad...
elitezenithweb said:
Well, I tried that zero compression mod thing that I linked above and it does make the file size larger (also changed crop to regular and resolution to 4:3) and the image seems to be a little bit better but if you zoom in it's so noisy, it's just bad...
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Flash the zero compression driver that disables the noise reduction rubbish that HTC implements (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339226). Camera Mod is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221815, it`s in the modpack , you can install without other mods, it improves image quality by a good deal. How old is the phone, my phone started developing hazy, blurry photos that had a ridiculous amount of bloom in any lit area, I noticed how scratched the lens was, the fix, simply put a small dab of tooth paste and a drop of water on a microfibre cloth and rub the lens in a circular motion for about 5 mins, don`t use too much water cause it can get under the lens, now my lens is as good as new and the camera takes some darn nice photos.
ryanjsoo said:
Flash the zero compression driver that disables the noise reduction rubbish that HTC implements (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339226). Camera Mod is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221815, it`s in the modpack , you can install without other mods, it improves image quality by a good deal. How old is the phone, my phone started developing hazy, blurry photos that had a ridiculous amount of bloom in any lit area, I noticed how scratched the lens was, the fix, simply put a small dab of tooth paste and a drop of water on a microfibre cloth and rub the lens in a circular motion for about 5 mins, don`t use too much water cause it can get under the lens, now my lens is as good as new and the camera takes some darn nice photos.
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The lyaporta camera mod breaks my phone... it's just stuck in the start-up HTC One logo screen and that's it... I restored to the backup I did before installing the mod, but it doesn't seem to work... maybe I just have to wait a little longer... I waited for like 1 minute on the logo screen before going back to the backup...

Camera confusion...

Hello Group,
I got my LGV30 last weekend so I'm still a newbie with it but I am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions about the rear facing camera. I'm trying to understand the 16MP setting, here is why I'm kinda confused. Under the cameras settings I chose this: 4:3 (16MP) 4656x3492 . So when I take a picture shouldn't the result be at least near that particular MP?
When I hook up my LGV30 to my computer and look at the shots that I have taken a lot of them are 2 MP to 7 MP, so I dont understand...I do know that just because I selected 4:3 (16MP) 4656x3492 doesn't mean that every shot will be that large however it should be 11MP or better, correct???
Also, in the setting when I have to make a selection of the size I want I notice that this number is there too, 16:9 (12MP) 4656x2620, so if I am taking a 4:3 shot and then switched over very quickly to the 16:9 shot, then what MP is then used for the 16:9 shot since I didn't select a setting ?
Thanks, Jake
I seriously don't know what are you doing. I checked my photos and all of them are 16 MP or 13 MP (Wide angle).
As for the aspect ratio: Camera sensors are tend to be 4:3 - so it is 16MP. When using 16:9, the output from the sensor has to be cropped, so the final result is 12MP, for 18:9 is 11MP etc.
Thanks for the reply. This is so weird as on my cell the shots look great but looking at them on my computer it shows them ALL as way under size. Maybe its a Windows 7 thing but I dont know as of yet...still troubleshooting.
davebugyi said:
I seriously don't know what are you doing. I checked my photos and all of them are 16 MP or 13 MP (Wide angle).
As for the aspect ratio: Camera sensors are tend to be 4:3 - so it is 16MP. When using 16:9, the output from the sensor has to be cropped, so the final result is 12MP, for 18:9 is 11MP etc.
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Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that the "16MP" is if you use the outdated 4:3 aspect ratio. Wide-screen will give you less, but turning the phone "sideways" or seeing on a 16:9 computer monitor or TV will be much more aesthetically pleasing.
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n2bowling said:
Hello Group,
I got my LGV30 last weekend so I'm still a newbie with it but I am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions about the rear facing camera. I'm trying to understand the 16MP setting, here is why I'm kinda confused. Under the cameras settings I chose this: 4:3 (16MP) 4656x3492 . So when I take a picture shouldn't the result be at least near that particular MP?
When I hook up my LGV30 to my computer and look at the shots that I have taken a lot of them are 2 MP to 7 MP, so I dont understand...I do know that just because I selected 4:3 (16MP) 4656x3492 doesn't mean that every shot will be that large however it should be 11MP or better, correct???
Thanks, Jake
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n2bowling said:
Thanks for the reply. This is so weird as on my cell the shots look great but looking at them on my computer it shows them ALL as way under size. Maybe its a Windows 7 thing but I dont know as of yet...still troubleshooting.
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I think you are confusing MB with MP. When you say "a lot of them are 2 MP to 7 MP", I believe you are looking at file size, not pixels.
MB is file size. Kilobyte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, Terabyte, etc. Plus, you can have different file sizes for the exact same picture, depending on whether it was saved in PNG or JPG. (The default on our phone is PNG format but some phones use JPG.)
Whereas, MP refers to the amount of pixels in an image. Usually higher MP in a camera means better pictures, but don't go by that alone:
http://www.blurbiness.com/web/en/bl...egapixels-does-not-mean-better-quality-photos
So you may find a camera or smartphone which, having less Megapixels, but with a better sensor and better lenses, gets clearer images than other cameras with more Megapixels. ... Basically, if you use a worse camera and worse lenses with more Megapixels, you will have more worse quality pixels
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n2bowling said:
Also, in the setting when I have to make a selection of the size I want I notice that this number is there too, 16:9 (12MP) 4656x2620, so if I am taking a 4:3 shot and then switched over very quickly to the 16:9 shot, then what MP is then used for the 16:9 shot since I didn't select a setting ?
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If I am understanding your question correctly, and forgive me if I'm not -- when you switched over to 16:9 shot "very quickly" it would take 16:9. However, that would not be your DEFAULT setting when you open the camera app. Next time you open the camera it would probably be back at 4:3.
You probably want 16:9 to be the default, so you should select that setting. Close the camera app, then re-open and see if it sticks.

Poco F1 Front Camera Fix New Finding

Hello devlopers and friends Ever since I brought poco f1 and installed gcam and other third party camera apps my front camera resolution drops to 5mp. Only official camera app is able to use 20 mp resolution.
I know there are many threads about pixel Bining and stuff but i don't agree with them. The main problem is at the end a 5Mp Image is 5Mp and 20 Mp is 20 mp.
But i think and request devlopers to please look to it.
## According to my theory As confirmed by Device info Harware app There are three camera sensors in poco F1 out of which the one with camera ID 0 is 13 the one with camera ID 1 is 20 and with camera ID 2 is is 5 megapixel.
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13 Mp back camera primary Camera Id 0
5mp back camera primary camera Id2
20 mp front camera Id 1
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According to my theory the five megapixel and the 20 megapixel camera are conflicting with each other and gcam is taking the values from 5 megapixel instead of 20 megapixel sensor. So I request that developers that they can try I and confirm if it is the case and if it is true please make a fix for it
thanks
On specs sheet, the front facing camera has 20mp but in gcam it says 5mp. Google Camera is using what they called "Pixel Binning" and it is a software implementation.
This process is the procedure of combining a cluster of pixels into a single pixel. As such, in 2x2 binning, an array of 4 pixels becomes a single larger pixel, reducing the overall number of pixels.
13mp back camera is the main camera shooter
5mp back camera is the depth sensor
20mp front camera is the secondary camera shooter
One good example is this
Darklouis said:
On specs sheet, the front facing camera has 20mp but in gcam it says 5mp. Google Camera is using what they called "Pixel Binning" and it is a software implementation.
This process is the procedure of combining a cluster of pixels into a single pixel. As such, in 2x2 binning, an array of 4 pixels becomes a single larger pixel, reducing the overall number of pixels.
13mp back camera is the main camera shooter
5mp back camera is the depth sensor
20mp front camera is the secondary camera shooter
One good example is this
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Thanks for replying
The question is that why gcam and other apps detect only 5mp sensor.
Lets agree gcam uses pixel Bining and stuff.
But why other apps detect and capture 5mp are they all using pixel Bining.
And why only Mi Camera can capture at full potential of the sensor. Is there a catch we all are ignoring.
Pixel Bining or not at the end when zoomed 5Mp image is storing lesser data .
And also imagine a 20mp full resolution shot with gcam cam make things go from OK to wow.
harshgohan said:
Thanks for replying
The question is that why gcam and other apps detect only 5mp sensor.
Lets agree gcam uses pixel Bining and stuff.
But why other apps detect and capture 5mp are they all using pixel Bining.
And why only Mi Camera can capture at full potential of the sensor. Is there a catch we all are ignoring.
Pixel Bining or not at the end when zoomed 5Mp image is storing lesser data .
And also imagine a 20mp full resolution shot with gcam cam make things go from OK to wow.
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It doesn't really change anything. And it doesn't mean more resolution = more quality. It is a matter of fact of image processing. If you really compare MIUI Stock Camera and Google Camera, you will see the big difference from the two since that Stock Camera doesn't uses Pixel Binning algorithm
Darklouis said:
It doesn't really change anything. And it doesn't mean more resolution = more quality. It is a matter of fact of image processing. If you really compare MIUI Stock Camera and Google Camera, you will see the big difference from the two since that Stock Camera doesn't uses Pixel Binning algorithm
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Pixel binning gives better shots in low lighting conditions only. No significant difference in well lit conditions. Thats why i want to capture with full resolution in Google camera because its awesome.
Also if pixel binning is so justified why don't we capture 3 mp photo with rear camera and say its better than 13mp because its not
Justified ( That 20 mp shot from miui cam is not good than gcam)
Not justified ( That it is due to only pixel binning . It is due to google computational algorithms.)
#pixelbinning is justified only in badly lit photos not everywhere
Agreed doesn't mean More resolution=more quality
But More resolution =More information per inch in captured shot ( in case of gcam it means awesome shot)
More resolution =More information per inch in captured shot ( in case of miui camera it means ok shot cause it does not uses multiple shots and algorithms to produce good shots)
harshgohan said:
Pixel binning gives better shots in low lighting conditions only. No significant difference in well lit conditions. Thats why i want to capture with full resolution in Google camera because its awesome.
Also if pixel binning is so justified why don't we capture 3 mp photo with rear camera and say its better than 13mp because its not
Justified ( That 20 mp shot from miui cam is not good than gcam)
Not justified ( That it is due to only pixel binning . It is due to google computational algorithms.)
#pixelbinning is justified only in badly lit photos not everywhere
Agreed doesn't mean More resolution=more quality
But More resolution =More information per inch in captured shot ( in case of gcam it means awesome shot)
More resolution =More information per inch in captured shot ( in case of miui camera it means ok shot cause it does not uses multiple shots and algorithms to produce good shots)
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Then use the stock camera if you really wanted the 20mp. Use gcam if you wanted better image processing.
This was explained a long time ago and it is really not a big issue or some conspiracy about the 20mp sensor
Yes it is a issue One plus devices had this issue Zen devices had issues similar in Auxiliary camera regarding resolutions on gcam. All those were fixed due to efforts of devlopers.But i think people just want to accept everything and not work it out. If some one can try to find a fix there will be a fix. But if everyone just accept the fate lie down nothing is gonna happen
Similar issue, i can't change photo camera resolution on miui 11.0.5.0.
harshgohan said:
According to my theory the five megapixel and the 20 megapixel camera are conflicting with each other and gcam is taking the values from 5 megapixel instead of 20 megapixel sensor. So I request that developers that they can try I and confirm if it is the case and if it is true please make a fix for it
thanks
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Dude, you are suggesting your gcam is taking front selfies with rear 5MP sensor?
A 20MP image is only twice as big 5MP image. Not 4 times big.
Gcam 5MP selfie carries much more details than 20MP MiUi camera, day or night. Period. MiUi camera does a lot smoothening.
lockhrt999 said:
Gcam 5MP selfie carries much more details than 20MP MiUi camera, day or night. Period. MiUi camera does a lot smoothening.
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Or maybe gcam does lot's of sharpening to make them look "detailed" zoomed out? When zoomed in you can see tiny coloured squares.
Update I used Redmi note8 Pro and Redmi k20 pro with gcam They all produce 5 mp front and 12mp back irrespective of the sensor resolution. Maybe gcam only supports these resolution maximum.
Honestly i would love larger resolution support with gcam .
In k20pro gcam can take images in 48 MP resolution
In back But issue is in front it only takes with 5mp resolution and this 5MP resolution is useless when you zoom the image or see it laptop you can see amount of noise.This really need a fix .
Can i disable Pixel Bining
I think no devloper is interested in This.
I wish there were devs who would look at it but sad thing is no one really care
True story
Actually Gcam detects full one Megapixel when individual pixel size is more that 1.1 π size..
Poco f1 or other Xiaomi phone with 20mp sensor has individual pixel size of 0.8/0.9/1.0 π size.
But Gcam detect full 13mp in my Redmi note 5 AI because the sensor's pixel size is 1.12 π.
Thus even in my old device has a 13mp insane Gcam selfie.

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