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After the successful launch event in London in May, Honor has launched its 2nd flagship device of year 2019 as part of Honor 20 Series, mainly the Honor 20 Pro and Honor 20 along with an affordable Honor 20 lite or Honor 20i on June 11 in India at a launch event in Delhi.
Here are full specifications of the device for quick overview of the feature in case anyone missed it earlier.
Please check this link as full specification is quiet a big and will take up entire page here.
Now let’s start the Honor 20 review. This is my detailed personal review about the Honor 20 unit which I received from Honor as a review unit.
Design- Many may feel that Honor 20 design is nothing new, in fact we are seeing this since Honor 8 era but Honor has not stopped its innovation and HONOR 20 takes that trend to the next level with a mirror glass back that creates subtle patterns and highlights that shine and move alongside different lights and is famous for Dynamic Holographic design which really looks incredible and eye catching. With nearly side bezel-less design, very minimal lower bezel and the punch hole camera set up, Honor was able to give us 91.7% screen to body ratio which gives nearly full screen view and best possible viewing experience. Phone really looks premium and can beat up any flagship design even in half price.
Another impressive design of Honor 20 includes a Side-Mounted Fingerprint Sensor. Initially, I was not fan for front mounted FP sensor as I was used to rear FP sensor mainly for unlocking and clicking photos but then gradually started liking the front FP sensor as it is easy to unlock without even lifting the device, found other of clicking pictures. With Honor 20 side-mounted FP scanner, I am getting used to it but gradually started liking it as response is very fast and accurate. I can unlock my phone even before I start counting to get that milli-second feel.
Display- Honor 20 is packed with fairly large but in trend screen size of 6.26 inch and offers a full view display, thanks to the Punch hole camera design which enables the nearly full screen display. A FHD+ IPS LCD screen with 2340X1080 resolutions gives a brighter and better display with equally good viewing experience. Display supports the 16.7 M colors and equipped with 412 PPI. Overall, the looks way better than my preview phones majorly due to full view display and accurate positioning of front camera which doesn’t hampers the display or any viewing experience while gaming, watching videos or live streaming etc. Display is bright enough to have a better readability under sunlight at full brightness. If you have automatic brightness enabled or have kept it on half way, you may feel some discomfort only under the direct sunlight and not under the bright condition, but this is same with every IPS panel.
Performance- Well, there is no second thought about the performance that you can get from this device. With Latest flagship Kirin 980 Processor. There is no deny that performance will be optimal for end user but sometimes few things are good on paper but not in real life, but Honor 20 is truly optimized with Magic 2.1 (for some they may refer as EMUI 9.1) and doesn’t lag at all. I have played Asphalt 8 and Fortnite and did not feel any lag or frame drop and games were launching quickly and were able to perform as per the expectation. Yet to test the same with PUBG but don’t think that will have any issue as well as Fortnite game size is huge compared to PUBG. I was able to get constant 30 FPS for Fortnite and waiting for update to support the 60 FPS and similar constant 30 FPS in Asphalt 8 with highest visual quality. So, from gaming perspective, I do not see any challenge and games runs smooth on this device without a problem. From Application launch point of view, apps launches very fast and user do not notice much delay or lag if they have selected the right settings in developer mode and disabled the screen animations. I personally did not face much delay while launching or switching across applications. Also, I noticed one improved in Magic UI 2.1 and Honor 20 that apps remain in memory for longer time but yes, the social media apps refresh immediately they are switched to, from any other app after some time. This was the behavior in default mode and I did not even enable the performance mode. No changes were made to the battery setting for app launch and they all were by default (system selected) except WhatsApp, Tapatalk , XDA and Telegram. So, if you are looking for a device which will give you the optimal performance without hurting your pocket, look no further and can go for Honor 20.
7nm Kirin 980 AI Chipset with Dual-NPU couple with 6 GB of RAM is doing the wonders here and device is one of the best I have used in terms of performance and fluidity.
Battery - Honor 20 comes with 3750 mAh battery with which, I was able to get around easilve over 30 hours of regular usage with multiple social media apps, dual Facebook, messenger, WeChat and WhatsApp and exchange applications which always runs in background and among the top battery consumer for all along with some time on gaming, YouTube, Gmail, Chrome, Skype For Business, Hotstar live streaming etc. still I was able to pass my entire with phone without suffering for battery issue by end of my day and only connect charger the next day (my regular routine as I connect to charge my phone only around at 07.00 AM in the morning and then leave for office). If I don’t play games or live streams, I was able to get around 30+ hours of usage with still around 18-25% left.
On an average I was able to get around 8-9 hours of SOT with my usage pattern.
Honor claims for 50% charging in 30 minutes and in my test this just works fine as I was able to charge 49% in 30 minutes and in random usages, I was still able to charge around 40-43% with Mobile data/Wi-Fi on.
Audio- I personally found that Honor 20’s volume is loud enough to be able to hear at full volume and audio is crispy clear. I used the phone with Honor’s Bluetooth headset and could enjoy the music and movies very well without any problem. There is inbuilt Histen sound effect feature as well which works only with a physically connected headset. Though, since Apples started the norm of removing the audio jack and many others are following the trend, Honor 20 lacks a headphone jack but it comes with a type-C to 3.5 mm jack dongle which you can listed to feel the same traditional way of music on headset and can vary the settings via Histen effect to be able to listen the music in your favorite mode.
Also, Honor 20 come up with 9.1 Virtual Surround feature which you can feel while gaming like Fortnite or others or watching a movie and using the Histen sound effect.
Camera- Honor 20 is equipped 4 camera setup which seems to be a norm in 2019 now and comes with 48 MP Sony IMX586 with F/1.8 aperture, 16 MP Super wide-angle camera with F/2,2 aperture, 2 MP Depth camera and 2 MP Macro camera.
48 MP main camera- it is Sony IMX586 lens and supports AI Ultra clarity mode and AIS. It also supports the AIS super night mode which is cool and in my personal experience which clicking few shots with night mode, I was amazed by the level of details I could see in the pictures.
16 MP Wide angle camera- with F/2.2 aperture and 117-degree super wide angle it really does wonders sometime to capture a larger area in smaller frame. I used 1X, 2X zoom and wide angle and really started liking it for few images where it was necessary to click a relatively bigger area. It also supports the Distortion correction.
2MP Depth assist camera – comes up with F/2l,4 aperture and supports h=in providing the bokeh effect.
2 MP Macro camera- with F/2,4 aperture, it supports a macro photography and gives the optimal results at 4cm distance from object. Results may vary person to person and object to object and light conditions. I got different results with different objects and light condition.
32 MP Selfie camera- I am not a selfie lover so did not explore much but I am sure it does well as I have seen the better results with relatively inferior camera from Honor. I clicked few selfies and was surprised to see the results and details in the image, you can turn off the beauty mode to get more details of object. Come up with F/2.0 aperture it does support the AIS and I really liked few images I clicked even with bit moving objects still the results were good. It supports AIS Super night mode, AI Color mode, AIS and AI mode.
Videos- Rear camera supports up to 4K resolution with EIS and front camera supports up to 1080P recording with EIS. You also get slow motion video with up to 960 FPS.
This review is incomplete if I do not touch the camera part or include camera review here. I am using this device for a week now and only got a couple of days to go out to explore the camera. Probably, I will be posting more images next week when I will be out of town to explore another city and click some memories. Yes, I am breaking up with my old phone and carrying this beauty on my next travel to Europe. As Honor 20 series tagline says #YouDeserveBetter yes, This is the one you deserve and you will not regret. BTW, I am not good at photography, still tried some hands on it this time and I was really happy with the image quality and really loving the camera. I tried all the modes available and Night, Super Macro and Super Slow motion with 32X (960 FPS). I was able to capture few night shots, which I personally feel was better than my expectation (did not used any tripod and taken random images) and I am hoping I will be able to share few more quality clicks next week with all the modes. This was my first phone supporting the wide-angle mode and I really liked it and taken few shots. Not a selfie lover so did not bother my front camera much to click myself.
AS I have clicked more than 500 Images and its difficult to upload all here but have selected around 60 images and you can check here. I am not a photographer and doesn't click great pictures.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sJLKnCmKF6i5kUR3C2O0wDZWmXWkb7fs?usp=sharing
Software/UI- EMUI is not new to me, have been using it for years now. Honor 20 comes with Magic UI but there is not much difference in terms of UI and looks. This is my first phone with Magic UI but I have hands on Magic phone, so this was not much change for me. UI looks similar and a familiar one but is optimized on top of Android 9 and hardware and works like a charm. No unexpected slowness or lags noticed and scroll, navigation, options are easily accessible and provides all the required features.
Conclusion- Due to the ongoing situation of Huawei/Honor with US ban, things were shaken up initially but every day we are hearing one or the other positive news. Many of them could be rumors but still there are some trusted sources which give some positive information and who know this ban might end up soon and we see Huawei/Honor back in business again. Even though with such uncertainty, if we see the astonishing sell of Honor 20 series since its launch, it shows the trust of user on the brand and Honor/Huawei has not let down the customers and are providing the updates, coming up with trending features. Overall, in my opinion and usage of Honor 20 till date, even though going through a tough time but yet managed to do well across markets, Phone is incredible with mesmerizing eye catching design, ticking all the boxes to be your preferred phone for camera, performance, design and long lasting battery which supports supercharging and gives you entire day of battery juice with just few minutes or charging. 4 cameras set up is really doing well and gives you incredible image quality with details and color saturation. No compromise on the performance or design either and side mounted fingerprint scanner is a welcome move giving you a new yet a comfortable experience.
Brilliant review enjoyed it
Could you please check does Honor 20 have Dual Band GPS?
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Please note this is my opinion and experience with the phone. I love trying all kinds of smart phones.
I wanted to love this phone...
Being a heavy google apps user and a lover of customization and android, I recently switched back to android from the iPhone 6 Plus (previous phones as well include Blackberry Passport, Note Edge, Note 3, LG G3, Oneplus One, Xperia Z1, Sharp SH-03G (Docomo), Ascend Mate 7 to name a few). The C5 Ultra caught my attention with it's good looks, 6" screen and Sony's boasting of it's great front and rear facing 13mp cameras. Both cameras sounded perfect for me to take photos of my 2 year old and family selfies with the front camera. After a week of use here are my thoughts:
Pros:
- Beautiful design - very sleek with edge to edge (sides have little to no bezel) glass on the front making this a tall looking phone
- Dual Sim - great when I travel overseas
- Separate MicroSD card slot - some manufacturers force you to use the second sim slot but not Sony
- Unlocked
- GPS accurate
- Wifi reasonably strong
- Call quality good
Cons
- Screen (Innolux) lacks contrast and does poorly with blacks, colours are dull and washed out. There is screen backlight bleeding especially around the bottom edges.
- Camera Images - What a disappointment. Perhaps mine is a dud but colors are dull, photos over exposed, highlights blown out, photos are not sharp, even taken in daylight.
- Camera Performance - It doesn't matter how beautiful photos are a camera CAN take if it CANNOT catch the moment. The lag on the phone is terrible. Camera app slow to open. Focus slow to acquire. Shutter terribly slow. After focusing on an object which is slow to do, I press the shutter and the camera tries to focus again then shoot taking more than a second to do so. Because of this I keep missing the moment even outside in broad daylight.
- Camera Software - Slow, occasionally crashes. Doesn't stay on the last setting you used if you reopen the app.
- Battery life - very disappointing. I am not a heavy user. I take maybe 10-15 photos, read some email, browse the web. Rarely watch videos or listen to music and the phone struggles to make it 12-13 hours. Charges very slowly whether plugged in via usb or directly into a wall.
- The iPhone 6 Plus battery and Blackberry Passport I previously had blow this away when it comes to battery.
- Phone performance - Occasional lag or stutter opening apps, swiping between home screens
- Auto brightness is very inconsistent, in an evenly lit room, it is constantly adjusting up and down brightness.
In case anyone is interested benchmark numbers here (It's the Non-verified score)
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Bottom line:
Visually a beautiful phone. Functionally a huge disappointment. The hype of a higher end or top mid range phone but not the same performance to back up the hype. Perhaps a lot of this, like the camera performance and the battery life and some OS performance can be tweaked and fixed with software updates. I love Sony products, and my house is full of Sony goods. Sony has a great name and reputation here in Japan but at the end of the day, Xperia phones still let me down and I end up going to solid phones from Samsung and LG. LG G4 on the way...
I feel u bro.
scpion said:
I feel u bro.
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I thought about it a bit and I think it may be that I expected too much... ie coming from many so called "flagship" models I expected the C5 Ultra to perform like one (since it's pretty pricey), but it obviously didn't.
I'm going to ride with it for the rest of the week, trying some 3rd party camera apps and seeing if I can optimize the setup (or wait for a root and custom rom) to see if it would improve performance and battery life.
On the contrary, personally I feel it's punching above its weight.. It's relatively cheap here on contract. Other than the irritating problems I mentioned in my other thread, I think it's pretty ok. Battery have been great for me and performance decently fast. I never had high hopes for the cam anyway though I was hoping for a surprise this time round. Let's not forget the C series had always been a mid ranger.
It's a shame, really. The C5 is the best looking phone I've ever seen. If only the screen was better and the battery was larger I'd consider buying it.
It's even better looking than the Xperia Z5 series and has less bezel.
I'd love to put the hardware of the Z5 into the C5 ultra then it'd be the perfect phone.
I really hope developers will take up interest in this phone. As of now, there are basically nothing on the Web regarding this phone.. No reviews, not even accessories..
The Z5 range has recently been published on gsmarena. I was shocked to see the C5 looks WAY better than the expensive flagship Z5. Issue with the Z5 it looks the same as the Z2 and Z3, too much bezel.
I'm thinking of getting the C5 ultra for it's sexy looks and ultra thin bezel!
I hope a developer/modder can soon release a mod to make this phone output stereo sound. We just need output from the top speaker grill which will then give us true stereo speakers/sound.
The sound from this phone is pretty loud with audio+. Tweaking the white balance gives pretty decent colours as well. The colour just sucks straight from factory.
scpion said:
The sound from this phone is pretty loud with audio+. Tweaking the white balance gives pretty decent colours as well. The colour just sucks straight from factory.
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Sounds good! I currently own the Sony Xperia Z3 D6633. The screen I have is better, sound is stereo, ram is 3Gb, camera is 21MP/video 4k and battery is more (3100mAh) vs 2900...
Should I purchase the C5 Ultra, in many ways it indeed is a downgrade. However, the beautiful design and large screen/thin bezel is a win and I'm thinking of buying one.
The main thing that concerns me is the large 6'' screen and small battery of under 3000mAh. Sony really should of made the battery at least 3500 mAh to power the large screen.
I'd like, if possible more feedback from other users with regards to battery life. Also, how are the black levels and viewing angles of the screen?
How would the camera compare say to a Samsung Note 5/Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge and the LG G4?
First up, I really have no problem with the battery. The 29xxmah battery may sound small, I have no problem lasting a full day. I try to post screen shots later. I feel that sony has one of the best optimised system around.
Screen needs some tweaking to get the colours right. Contrast still slightly on the lower side. Viewing angle is ok. No where near the shocking level of gen 1 xperia z. Colour shift at a acute angle similar to N4 if u know what I mean. To me, I think it's acceptable. And it's really bright.
I dun take a lot of picture.. But from my finding, superior auto is a disaster in this case. Manual gives me good results. Details are good and noise keep to a minimum in low light. Pics with flash turns out great as well, surprisingly. The other phones u mentioned are all flagship class so it might be a bit unfair to do the comparison. They can point and shoot and give good results. This, u have to point, tweak, shoot.... Lol. Results are not half bad. At least the last settings are retained so u do not go back to the superior auto by default.
Then again, do not forget this is a "midranger". And let's not forget there is no such thing as a perfect phone.
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I am typing this from my Z Ultra. Seriously, if they carry on the Z line in the Z ultra's design and power, I think sony will do much better..
Here u go. these are 2 sets of battery usage. I am getting rather good results from it. Google sync on, Lte all the way. Staminal mode on. Manual screen brightness is at just 15% and its really bright indoors. Outdoors usually at just 40% or auto brightness. This is a really bright panel. On down side, battery charging is pretty slow. Using a 1.5a charger, it take me around 3-4hrs to charge from around 15%. I never tried the supplied 850mah one... maybe I should..
Hey! Theres one more thing that I want to mention for the screen. It FREAKING flickers whenever it tries to play a video for the first 1 sec. It should be a software issue. The display sets have this problem, the set i changed have this problem as well.
Just got c5 ultra. Was trying to connect my 1tb ext hdd, but it always shows "usb storage removed" as soon as i connect it.. However once it did got connected properly and i was able to access files on it but only once and after that i am continuously having the above mentioned problem.. Anyone else tried this? Also i am having some wierd clock ticking voice from my hdd after connecting.. It works fine though on my note 4 without such voice..
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^ Thanks for the feedback bro. I'm currently living in Dubai, UAE. It seems, unfortunately the phone is not yet released here.
However, it should be released anytime soon. I'm going to call the Sony agent at Jumbo Electronics and see when the phone is due to be released.
As I said before, I'm seriously considering selling my several month old Sony Xperia Z3 D6633 dual sim and getting the C5 Ultra. In many ways it is indeed a downgrade.
That said, I'm also an ex owner of the legendary Sony Xperia Z Ultra which had the massive 6.44'' screen which was gorgeous. My current Z3 on the other hand has a much smaller screen of only 5.2'' and Although the screen is better and brighter, I'm not happy with the smaller screen. It seems Sony will not release a successor anytime soon for the Z Ultra so as of now the nearest option is the C5 Ultra. Though slightly smaller than the Z Ultra, it's the nearest phone to compare.
May I also ask, how does the C5 Ultra screen compare to the Z Ultra. Please tell me it's as good as if not better.
Unsure about you, but the best on screen time I've had with my previous Z Ultra was 5 hours and 44 minutes! Not bad for a phone having almost 6.5'' in size and a 3000mAh battery...
I think I would prefer the Z ultra's screen over this, at least for now. I personally like how much we can adjust the screen contrast and colour on the Z. Colour adjustment can be make to be very close to my Z but C5 still lacks the deeper colours.. Dpi is smaller as well so I can see more things. Think the C5 dpi is at 480. It's a waste of screen estate. We seriously need development on this to make it a great device.
Yeah, the device is still too new. I'm sure that with some development and custom roms, it'll be even better. Sadly it'll take some time...
At least they've improved the sound quality and finally the output is better than previous models.
Then there's front and rear flash which the Z Ultra completely lacked.
I've seen many brand new C5 Ultra's for just £250 in ebay, around 300 euros. For a 6'' mid range device the price is fantastic...
How does battery life compare to the Xperia Z Ultra? How is the quality/sharpness of the camera? Image noise low and under control?
I usually get around a full day with 3-4hrs screen on time with Z ultra. C5, that kind of timing is usually when I am at around 40%. I never finish my day with a flat battery for C5. I dun play games. Just lots of browsing, Facebook and YouTube. Cam is a mixed bag. Most of the time, details and colours are pretty good. Sometimes overly exposed. Superior auto is a disaster though. But overall, good pics can be achieved with manual without much trouble.
Finally bought my C5 Ultra last night! Overall I'm satisfied with it and there is more good than bad.
Screen is actually great AFTER calibration. By default the whites and colours are dead. For me, white balance is as follows; Red 38, Green 49 & Blue 40. Colour as well as the white and blacks are great and not far off from my Xperia Z3. So bear in mind the display does need a good calibration to get decent results.
After going through some high quality pictures and full HD 1080P movies and animated cartoons, colour is strong and black levels do actually look great, screenshots below of Shaun The Sheep Movie. Viewing angles are brilliant.
Speed. Generally the device is fast and responsive. It does at times pause and there is a slight delay. However, this should be fixed in a future update and when we get root access and recovery!
Looks. This was the key reason I bought the device. Specification is high mid range, a step above the Xperia Z Ultra, however, I wasn't bothered with the specification, it's gorgeous looks lured me into buying the device! As internet photos show, the left/right side of the phone literally has no bezel, the stunning display stretches out right to the edges. The top/bottom of the phone are still thin and the upper part is mostly taken by the huge 13mp camera with it's flash.
The bottom of the screen is still pretty thin and compared to my Xperia Z3, though a bigger phone, the bottom bezel of the C5 Ultra is still thinner!
As explained above, the screen by default is lifeless, colours are wrong and whites are more warm. You will have to calibrate the white levels in order to get decent looking whites and other colours...
Camera. I've not had the time to fully experiment, however, it is decent and photos are sharp and clear. Others have mentioned the camera is slow especially if selecting the memory card to store the images. Completely wrong. I took several pictures last night, one after the other and other than a split second delay, it was ready to take the second and the third picture. it's fast and responsive, no lag whatsoever when taking photos whether you select the memory card slot or the internal memory.
The flash is VERY bright and even when using the light/torch mode, the light was excellent, stronger than my Xperia Z3.
Gaming. Aside from Ski Safari, I didn't try any other game. However, colours were great, whites were excellent and there was no lag or delays at all. Nice and smooth.
Whether surfing the web, gaming or using the camera, there was no sign at all of overheating, in fact, the phone never even got warm when using for long periods! So no need to worry about overheating or getting warm.
Body/Build quality. Although the rear of the phone is plastic, it's a very high quality plastic, very strong and it's appearance is good. The sides of the phone are a solid aluminium and the front is entirely glass. Build quality is very sturdy and overall excellent. There are no gaps around the phone/bezel and the sides are well put together. So far the best design I've ever seen from Sony.
I was actually going to wait and purchase the Xperia Z5. Once I saw the design was VERY similar to the current Z2/Z3 series I thought why buy the Z5 when it looks too similar to my current phone? I wanted something different, unique and affordable. This is where the C5 Ultra fits in, perfectly...
Battery. Unfortunately, since I've only just used the phone for several hours, I'm yet to comment on battery life. In fact, I've still not even charged the battery, not even once. Battery was around 61% when the phone was first turned on. After around 2 hours of on screen time, some wi-fi, phone calls, sms messages and camera use, battery is still around 22% .
Speakers/sound - I'd say decent but not loud. My Xperia Z3 having dual speakers was around 25% louder. That said, we can only pray that sooner or later, a developer can release custom sound for louder, clearer audio having dual loud speakers when listening to music, watching movies, gaming or simply when making a phone call. We simply need audio output via the upper earpiece to give us stereo sound. Lazy Sony, unfortunately didn't bother doing this...
Verdict. Based on the above, I'd give the phone 8.5/10 for overall use/features/looks/battery, etc.
Some screen shots of the phone and screen:
View attachment 914143457575174145.webpHey OPPO Humans,
I hope you all are doing great.
I have been using the OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G as my primary device for almost 7 months now, and here comes a usage experience or we can say an In-depth review of the device. So without any further ado let's get started.
Topics covered in this thread :
Camera
Design & In-hand feel
Display
Performance
Battery Life
Software
My Final Verdict
1. Camera
Cameras are an important point when it comes to OPPO devices, so its no surprise to see more photo and video features, coupled with capable camera hardware on the OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G. The device is equipped with 64MP Main Camera, along with an Sony IMX 355 8MP ultrawide angle camera and two 2MP sensors – one for macro and the other for monochrome photography. The Reno6 Pro 5G also comes with Electronic image stabilization (EIS). You may be happy to learn that Ultra Steady video mode is available too. It has higher dynamic range, giving backlight shots clearer, more colourful details in both shadows and well-lit areas. The main camera can record 4K 60FPS videos.
Reno6 Pro 5G comes with a 32MP Sony IMX 615 sensor snapper for selfies and video chats. I found the 32MP front camera to be very good, which shoots some clear images with a good amount of details present on the face tones. Selfies taken during the day looked decent, Portrait mode is quite useful. In the evening or night, the performance is also very good, it provide usable selfies with bright enough light sources around.View attachment 914136882299011077.webp
My experience with the camera was very delightful and extra ordinary. It was a perfect blend of all the factors that one wants from a camera app like Saturation, Exposure, Auto-Focusing, Focus tracking etc & the features like Bokeh Flare Portrait, Flash snapshot and many more made the Camera Department stand out from the rest.
2. Design & In-Hand Feel
The first thing that caught my eyes was the beautiful design. The device come in two color options i.e. Aurora & Stellar Black. I have the Stellar Black variant. It comes with OPPO's exclusive Reno Glow design, providing a unique back design because the AG glass has glossy and matte both in his back as some like glossy textures. Combining Reno Glow glass which using a crystal drilling technique to create millions of pyramid-shaped crystal structures at a microscopic level, and Diamond Spectrum body which is the combination of five core elements, the new Aurora variant could shine a million colors while holding in different angles.View attachment 914137195647074310.webp
And in terms of in-hand feel, OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G weighs only 177g which is quite lighter than any other smartphone and it also has a thickness of 7.6 mm which is much much thinner. The clean, minimalistic, quite elegant design is very comfortable in my hand and gives me a classy premium experience while holding the device in my hands.
3. Display
OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G has a 6.5" OLED Curved Single Punch-hole display with Refresh rate of 90Hz, Touch sampling rate of 180Hz, and Screen-to-body ratio of 93.4%. My view on display is that when it comes to the display quality of the smartphone, you will not be disappointed by using it to watch videos on various OTT platforms and YouTube. The punch hole doesn't result in much of a hindrance in the viewing experience. There’s also support for Widevine L1, HDR 10+ Certification and thanks to the OLED display, which offers accurate colors. And also it has SGS Eye Care display certification. It was fun to watch content on this phone, the outputs are top-notch. Overall, it's a great combination of design and display.View attachment 914137387368710147.webp
4. Performance
The phone is packed with MediaTek's flagship processor, Dimensity 1200. The octa-core Dimensity 1200 features one of the fastest smartphone CPUs ever. For all gamers, performance is a most important part. I played a lot of heavy games like BGMI and COD MOBILE and I was able to play both of them on high settings with high frame rate. Even at Ultra frame rate and HDR graphics, BGMI worked like a charm and I didn’t found any heating or frame drop problems with the phone. Thanks to the Multi-cooling system that prevents overheating. So, with the Performance on I don't have any issues and really impressed specially in gaming and multitasking works absolutely fine.View attachment 914137626133659652.webp
5. Battery
The OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G gets a massive 4,500mAh battery. With moderate usage, I was easily getting somewhere around 8hr of screen on time. And, in order to quickly charge this mega battery, there's also a 65W SuperVOOC 2.0 Charge, which can take it from zero to 100 in about 31 min. Other important feature I can't miss to share with you all is Super Power Saving Mode. With this mode turned ON, the battery life shoots up. Running low on battery? Turn this feature ON to save a lot for later. It shuts down almost every unnecessary operations and gives extra screen on time.View attachment 914137750721527814.webp
The combination of 4500mAh + 65W SuperVOOC 2.0 makes this smartphone survive for a long time whether you play your favorite games or listen to the music or watch videos for hours. When it comes to charging speed I never want to go back after using that 65W SuperVOOC I just simply in love with how fast it gets charged. Yes I'm very happy with the battery life.
6. Software
The OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G comes with Android 11 and ColorOS 11.3 on board. The user interface is clean, pleasing to eyes, icon designs, smooth animation while opening & closing the apps, everything is perfectly balanced with tons of customisation options found on ColorOS 11.3, But one thing that amazed me a lot is that it comes with native Google stock apps. Yes, we get stock apps like stock dialer apps, messages. Instead of a smart assistant on the left end of the home page now we get Google now. OPPO is seriously leaping towards much cleaner and stock experience.View attachment 914138382828044292.webp
I'm really impressed with ColorOS 11.3, and loved the overall UI experience. Mainly, the sets of customisation it offers are on the next level, being honest this is what I always wanted at the moment.
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After spending 3 months with OPPO Reno6 Pro 5G and i just fall in love with device. For me it's a beast device at the price point it is available right now. MediaTek Dimensity 1200 Processor which not only gives you a smooth and amazing gaming experience but also a well optimised powerful device. Camera is the mainThis is only smartphone in this price segment having DSLR effect. Bokeh Flare Portrait mode which is a cool new feature no doubt. The battery performance is good as well and the addition of 65W fast-charging makes the deal unbeatable. The way that it looks and sits in your hand is bound to win you over. Plus the gorgeous curved AMOLED display, how smooth and slick it feels in daily usage. It is one of the slim and light device which you really feel in your hands but also looks premium. I feel most users will be happy after buying this phone, especially those who are looking for a stylish, sleek phone. Overall I'm happy and satisfied with the same at the moment
So with that I have concluded the review by my side. Now it's your time! I hope you guys like this device and let me know what you think about the device in the comment section!
Signing off
Thahir
Thanks for the review. Can you confirm if Google MAp's Live View works on it? Thanks!h
Hi I need to root my phone oppo Reno 6pro is there any possibility
Hi all
I have been debating with myself for awhile rather get the xperia 1 3 or the oneplus 9pro, also considering the op9 or nokia 8.4 although I know specs are downgraded from first two.
Do u have any insights for me?
thx in advance
the-light said:
Hi all
I have been debating with myself for awhile rather get the xperia 1 3 or the oneplus 9pro, also considering the op9 or nokia 8.4 although I know specs are downgraded from first two.
Do u have any insights for me?
thx in advance
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I can assure you that you won't be disappointed if you choose Xperia 1 III. I think I don't have to polish the quality, it's a Sony the display is superb as always. Camera is a masterpiece, especially in manual. If you know what you're doing then you shot photos you couldn't with any other and the colours are the most realistic you can get. Performance is outpacing all other phones. I didn't have any lags, hesitation or slowdown ever. Multi-tasking is a killer, doesn't matter how many apps you use simultaneously, apps won't crash. I replaced my Xperia 1 and I didn't regret it. Not to mention that my Xperia 1, Xperia xz premium, xperia z3 still run like new I don't have any pros or cons regarding the other phones you mentioned.
LaceeWearsPrada said:
I can assure you that you won't be disappointed if you choose Xperia 1 III. I think I don't have to polish the quality, it's a Sony the display is superb as always. Camera is a masterpiece, especially in manual. If you know what you're doing then you shot photos you couldn't with any other and the colours are the most realistic you can get. Performance is outpacing all other phones. I didn't have any lags, hesitation or slowdown ever. Multi-tasking is a killer, doesn't matter how many apps you use simultaneously, apps won't crash. I replaced my Xperia 1 and I didn't regret it. Not to mention that my Xperia 1, Xperia xz premium, xperia z3 still run like new I don't have any pros or cons regarding the other phones you mentioned.
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Thank u for the reply. it is helpful
If you're into this kind of bleeding edge device; either way you'll be disappointed, just less with this one I think.
Reasoning: Android is just becoming more like IOS on both the hard and software side.
DRM, lack of sdcard port (why I decided to pick the 1III over the 9P), locking down systems as much as possible.
Funny enough that ain't whats killing the 1III or the 9P, these companies share more source code than most, it's the tiny community which might have made it worth for me to get the S22 Ultra instead.
I did get a terrific deal tho; €888 for a snapdragon 888, how fitting.
I don't know about OnePlus, but my Xperia has a definite "beta" feel that never goes away.
What the Sony really has going for it is:
Fast CPU burst speed launches apps quickly
microSD card for old apps and some apps not from Google Play Store
Solid feel
Stereo speakers and headphone jack
Fast WiFi 6
Quick camera button
Long battery life
Water resistant
Notification LED
Very fast USB connection
Not so good:
Some people have problems with phantom screen and fingerprint touches
Fingerprint reader will false-positive a LOT
Minimal carrier support, if any. Cellular reception is not the best.
Minimal CPU cooling, quick throttling
Dated camera quality, worse camera software
Very "stock" Android, and that's a bad thing for Android 11 and 12. Google's recent work is a dumpster fire.
microSD crippled for recent Google Play Store apps (see previous item)
Several gigabytes of setup shovelware on some models. The downloads have to be cancelled to get started.
Rough software and some bad updates. Can be frustrating to use.
Flashlight is dim
4K screen resolution is restricted to a few uses
The Sony by my experience excellent.
A few sites to confirm this.
https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/sony-xperia-1-iii
Sony Xperia 1 III | EISA – Expert Imaging and Sound Association
eisa.eu
Sony Xperia 1 III - TIPA
Xperia 1 III utilises expertise of engineers from Sony’s Alpha cameras. It offers four focal lengths, including the world’s first Variable telephoto lens paired with a Dual PD sensor– reaching up to a focal length of 105mm from 16mm, as well as delivering 12MP and RAW formatted images. Each lens...
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Very happy with mine. Been a champ. Learn to yield the camera and you will be trated with excellent images.
Led notification
3.5 connection
12/256 config on the base model + sd-card support
4k FLAT screen - no notch or punch-hole
Great camera hardware - excellent manuel controls - 4k 120fps
Great battery
Stereospeakers with punch and good balance
Also a great looking phone beautifully buildt.
Why open new threads like this always and mess up the entire forum... Even for a single new update if there is only a monthly security update
kevinmcmurtrie said:
I don't know about OnePlus, but my Xperia has a definite "beta" feel that never goes away.
What the Sony really has going for it is:
Fast CPU burst speed launches apps quickly
microSD card for old apps and some apps not from Google Play Store
Solid feel
Stereo speakers and headphone jack
Fast WiFi 6
Quick camera button
Long battery life
Water resistant
Notification LED
Very fast USB connection
Not so good:
Some people have problems with phantom screen and fingerprint touches
Fingerprint reader will false-positive a LOT
Minimal carrier support, if any. Cellular reception is not the best.
Minimal CPU cooling, quick throttling
Dated camera quality, worse camera software
Very "stock" Android, and that's a bad thing for Android 11 and 12. Google's recent work is a dumpster fire.
microSD crippled for recent Google Play Store apps (see previous item)
Several gigabytes of setup shovelware on some models. The downloads have to be cancelled to get started.
Rough software and some bad updates. Can be frustrating to use.
Flashlight is dim
4K screen resolution is restricted to a few uses
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Wifi 6 really is fast No other phone can do this. At my workplace they couldn't believe how is this even possible
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I've even reached 2,6Gbps download speed once. Sadly, I didn't taka a screenshot
Apart from the dim flashlight, I didn't face any of those issues. This phone really is a beast Can't imagine that I'd buy any other manufacturer's phone.
I had a lot of Flagships in my hands. For 1 year ago a had a s21, s22 , S22 Ultra, Zfold3 , Mi11 Ultra, Mate/P 40 Po... I can easily say that 1||| is not the best at all but...
Beautiful und one hand useful
Camera with a bit of knowledge is the best in the terms of colours and really really to convey the real atmosphere and mood of the scene. Hey this is not a flat and too bright Samsungs way. Other like a hand painted Huawei and Pixel way.
And up to 5 zoom ist the best because ist not so dependent from various constant zoom cameras. It have a variable zoom and this make a lot of difference.
Also is a lot more agile and smooth than Samsung in terms of software.
I have never had a One+ device but with the Chinese i find always annoying flaws.
I don't understand why people are comparing this phone so much with other phones.
The sole reason I bought this phone is because it offers a very unique featureset.
I wanted a fingerprint scanner on the side or back.
Can find lots, but typically only in higher-end models.
I also wanted wireless charging.
Also lots, but typically only in budget models.
I wanted a flat screen, no curved edges.
Removes a lot of phones too.
I preferred a headphone jack and notification LED (if possible).
Removes even more phones.
With all these requirements there is literally no other phone available.
None
I couldn't care less about camera quality, yet I bought it.
Me? I'm happy with it. But unless you want some specific features that only this phone offers I just would not recommend it because it's, imo, WAY too expensive compared to the competition.
You should not buy this phone because you want a "flagship model", you're better off with OP, Samsung, Google or Apple (dare I say it).
I will admit that Sony devices are unicorns, so you can buy it for the hipster factor I guess.
Hello everyone,
I hope you all are doing well! Here is my review of the Reno8 which I received as part of the ambassadors programme.
My unit is in the Shimmer Gold colour with 256 GB storage. As with my previous review of the FInd X5, all thoughts and opinions are my own
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I have been using the Reno8 as my daily phone over the last month's and have been able to test a lot of different scenarios. In this review I'll go through them and point out things that I have liked and also things I didn't in the following segments:
Unboxing
Design and build
Display
Gaming
Charging and battery
Camera and video
Sample photos
Verdict
Unboxing
Design & buildPersonally I absolutely love the new design language of the Reno devices. The sleek squared edges combined with a really incredible looking camera module make for a very premium look.
Each time I pick up the device I am impressed with how cool it looks.
Together with this design and very nice colour in shimmer gold it's definitely eye catching. Especially depending on the angle you hold the phone it's shimmering with a lovely gradient of different hues and colours.
Moving over to the sides on the left there's volume up and down buttons that feel tactile and on the right side a power button with the signature OPPO green detail and a even more tactile feel. On the bottom of the device we can find the speaker/microphone and USB Type-C port.
Overall feel of the phone is great too. It's refined, smooth, easy to handle. The new design makes this experience great. Although, there is one downside which are sadly the vibrations and haptics do not feel very premium. For example when typing the vibration motor is quite loud. However this could be improved upon in a software update making the vibration duration shorter for example.
DisplayOn the front of the device we have a flat 6.5 AMOLED display which has 90hz refresh rate, a hole punch selfie camera in the left top corner and a relatively large chin with small bezels around.
Colours on the display look vibrant and text is crystal clear. I was really surprised with the quality of the panel and there are no dark corners. I'm glad it's got 90hz as it makes the screen feel much more responsive.
Watching videos on the screen has been a joy. As well as playing games thanks to the smooth response rate.
You can also enjoy OLED features such as Always on Display and Edge lighting for notifications. The display also features a built in under screen fingerprint reader, which has been very fast and reliable when unlocking the device each time. I only wish it was placed slightly further up on the display to make it easier to reach like on the Find X5.
GamingThe performance of the MediaTek Dimensity 1300 processor paired with the 8GB Ram and massive 256 GB storage made the Reno8 well prepared for enjoying large and graphics demanding games.
During my testing I played a vareity of games ranging from Genshin Impact, Pokemon Unite, Minecraft, and casual games such as Pokemon Go or Pokemon Cafe Remix. Each game did run without issues, and while the graphics could not be maxed out, they were still enjoyable. Also with the addition of 90 Hz on the AMOED display, games could feel smooth and responsive.
Each game was handled well on the device, thanks to the gaming overlay I could always keep the crucial stats in check and adjust the game settings accordingly.
Charging & batteryUnfortunately the Reno8 doesn't have wireless charging but makes up for it with SuperVOOC 80W. Battery charging is insanely fast. It's been incredible to quickly connect the phone to the charger for half an hour and it's already done. In times when you are low on battery and forgot to charge this has been a really good help.
And even with the fast charging: Battery life is very good. It can easily last an entire day and a bit more. All while playing casual games, texting on WhatsApp or Discord, listening to music while on a bike ride with Spotify or watching some videos on YouTube.
Camera & videoThe famous photographer Chase Jarvis once said "the best camera is the one that’s with you" and the Reno8 can definetly make this come true in a large variety of situations.
Starting with the main camera:
Featuring a flagship sensor from Sony IMX766, capturing at 50MP. It is capable of taking great photos, which are sharp, have lots of great natural bokeh (blurry backgrounds) and detail.
A small downside I noticed (which I hope can be fixed with software update) is that it can be sometimes a little bit slow with processing the image which makes it not the best for action shots where you want to capture the moment. For example when taking photos of pets, the movement is often still captured making a blurry image.
Other features of the camera are excellent. As the tagline of the Reno suggests, it's the portrait expert. And it really holds true: The portrait mode is stunning and looks very realistic with beautiful bokeh. With a big selection of different styles, my favoruite was with the bokeh background. When analyzing the portrait mode photos, you can see features of the photo which is usually only visible on a real camera lens such as focus falloff. This is where parts of the picture are less blurry at the start and as the background is further away it gets blurrier.
Selfie camera
Taking selfies on the Reno8 has been really fun, especially in portait mode too. Featuring another flagship sensor the Sony IMX709 shooting at a massive 32MP. As you can see from the samples below the selfies are sharp and what you expect from a high quality sensor like the one in the device.
Video camera
You can choose to record up to 4K in video mode, although not every mode supports it. Overall the video quality is good, with very pleasing colours in my opinion and already features some nice software stabilization, which can be enhanced with super steady shot which is especially suited for some more action shots.
When shooting 4K video it is only supported in 1x and 2x using the main 50MP sensor. Switching to ultra wide 0,6x reduces the quality to a supported resolution of 1080p video. Furthermore another limitation of the video camera is that once you start recording, you can not switch between the different lenses. If you start in 0,6x you have to stop the recording to swap to 1x, for example.
AI Highlight Video: it can improve the clarity and also quality of the video especially in low light conditions. The resolution in this mode is maxed out at 1080p but available on all lenses
Photos
More images on:
https://community.oppo.com/user-main/1156982997707653125/index
VerdictSoftware experience has been overall very consistent on the Reno8. Currenly using ColorOS 12.1 and coming from the flagship Find X5 I was pleased how well and smooth performing the system was.
All features that I use in everyday were there and never let me down. I can rely on quick app start up times and especially fast installations.
I am excited to see what the latest update brings to the Reno with the announcement of ColorOS 13 I am anticipating the release and new features. Software wise I am very happy with the direction.
The Reno8 is an overall great phone, fit for everything the day can throw at it.
In my opinion OPPO has found a great balance of flagship features at a mid price point. The only complaints I had were very minor, and do not take from the everyday use experience which has been overall very consistent and reliable.
Packed with features, a great camera, and exceptional design the Reno8 is versatile, and comes in at a great price point. The great experience starts from the moment you unbox the phone, and continues on each day as you use and explore new possibilities with it. Be it from changing the way you charge your phone, to taking fantastic photos each day.
I hope you did find my review useful and please do let me know your feedback in the comments below!
See:
Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra review: Refined to near perfection
The Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra is a more refined Galaxy S22 Ultra, and while it might have features you don't need, it's one of the best.
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I predict another dud flagship. Too thick, too heavy with a so-so display/bezel ratio. With poor SOT for the huge mAh battery.
No expandable storage; the high capacity internal memory variants will be in short supply and thus very expensive, predictably. And of course a huge price tag until Samsung realizes it's not selling well, again. This will make it 4 years running that Samsung has failed to deliver an exceptional, well balanced flagship.
That's what I think...
blackhawk said:
I predict another dud flagship. Too thick, too heavy with a so-so display/bezel ratio. With poor SOT for the huge mAh battery.
No expandable storage; the high capacity internal memory variants will be in short supply and thus very expensive, predictably. And of course a huge price tag until Samsung realizes it's not selling well, again. This will make it 4 years running that Samsung has failed to deliver an exceptional, well balanced flagship.
That's what I think...
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Battery should be much better since the 8 Gen 2 is a TSMC chip.
There's very little that can be done about battery when 5G is enabled but even with it, the X70 is said to be up to 40% more efficient than the X65 was.
EtherealRemnant said:
Battery should be much better since the 8 Gen 2 is a TSMC chip.
There's very little that can be done about battery when 5G is enabled but even with it, the X70 is said to be up to 40% more efficient than the X65 was.
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Time will tell. I doubt it will improve the SOT much. There's also the burden of the variable refresh rate display. Not sure how much more scoped storage impacts battery life but it requires more cpu cycles.
Starting with the N20U the batteries have gotten bigger, as has the thickness and weight of all the Samsung flagships. At the same time even with the larger capacity batteries the SOT decreased.
Poor form factor and performance balance have now become Samsung's flagship hallmark.
Their last great flagship remains the N10+. No 5G or variable refresh rate display but more functional with a display color/gamma accuracy/calibration that likely exceeds all those that followed. If Samsung adopted a fixed 90hz display refresh rate much better color/gamma accuracy could be achieved. They won't do this because Samsung is now marketing hype rather than performance driven. Case in point how many megapixels will the new cam sensor have?
For that tiny sized sensor 20mp is pushing it. Little doubt the mp count will continue to climb at the cost of pixel light gathering ability and sampling accuracy. The newer generations of Samsung cams seem to be very power hungry as well.
What a sick joke.
The laser AF is a great benefit. That should have been implemented 5 or more years ago. Sony was using this technology back in 2004 on its cams. Not to worry if you don't have it as a 3mw 535nm laser pointer can be used for spot on AF lock ups on older phones
Battery like on my SD Ultra S22 is why I am upgrading. It was terrible from the start nothing has really changed.
borijess said:
Battery like on my SD Ultra S22 is why I am upgrading. It was terrible from the start nothing has really changed.
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If you want good SOT go with a N10+*, they get 12+ hours SOT with a new battery. Browsing with Brave I was using 6%@hr when this battery was newer. A better balanced and more usable device... even today**.
The S23U is already shaping up to be more of the same Samsung bs... 3+ years of fail and ball drops.
*stock Snaps that are optimized. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance and SOT.
** I'm running Pie and Q so no CPU cycle sucking scoped storage. You'll be stuck with Android 12, 13 or 14 on the S23U. 13 is a mess. Google is more Apple now (as is Samsung) than it is Android... more dropped balls rolling around inside the machine.
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You'll be stuck with Android 12, 13 or 14 on the S23U. 13 is a mess.
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I actually disagree with this. 13 has been great. I didn't like 8/Oreo because of how many apps they broke and 10 was slower than 11. 12 had some regressions and random quirks but 13 has been great. I don't actually have any specific OS-related complaints, just phone complaints about the Pixel 7 Pro, but if I'm being honest, I'm really just being petty, because the 7 Pro is great device that would serve most people well.
The reason I'm looking at the S23 series is specifically because of band support. I have Boost Infinite which uses AT&T towers so I want access to the 3.45GHz DoD spectrum and the Pixel 7 Pro's modem doesn't support it. Additionally Boost Infinite will be switching to using Dish Network's 5G network as it's primary and the Pixel doesn't support n70 and multiple other bands Dish is using.
Also, I just haven't had Samsung since the Note 5 and my partner has a Samsung A51 and I have played with it and actually kind of like it, so it just feels like it is time.
The Note 10+ is missing way too much for me to consider it. I'm not giving up 5G. The modem in that device has extremely limited and largely incomplete 5G support.
EtherealRemnant said:
I actually disagree with this. 13 has been great. I didn't like 8/Oreo because of how many apps they broke and 10 was slower than 11. 12 had some regressions and random quirks but 13 has been great. I don't actually have any specific OS-related complaints, just phone complaints about the Pixel 7 Pro, but if I'm being honest, I'm really just being petty, because the 7 Pro is great device that would serve most people well.
The reason I'm looking at the S23 series is specifically because of band support. I have Boost Infinite which uses AT&T towers so I want access to the 3.45GHz DoD spectrum and the Pixel 7 Pro's modem doesn't support it. Additionally Boost Infinite will be switching to using Dish Network's 5G network as it's primary and the Pixel doesn't support n70 and multiple other bands Dish is using.
Also, I just haven't had Samsung since the Note 5 and my partner has a Samsung A51 and I have played with it and actually kind of like it, so it just feels like it is time.
The Note 10+ is missing way too much for me to consider it. I'm not giving up 5G. The modem in that device has extremely limited and largely incomplete 5G support.
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Agreed, I wouldn't get the 5G N10+ variant. With an unlimited grandfathered 4G data plan it's a no brainer. Since 5G started rolling out 4G has even better bandwidth. Because many websites limit data speeds even the 4G download speed isn't fully utilized most times. The power drain of 5G remains an issue on the newer models as does the SOC, display and camera. They reached the thermal limits of the available surface area. The N10+ can operate at a 99F ambient temperature doing internet browsing with no cooling for an extended time because it's using less power and producing less waste heat.
Storage is inadequate and expensive on all models after the N20U.
30 gms heavier, worse display/ratio and a much worse SOT than the N10+. Not a well balanced flagship at all. S23U is more of the same... bs.
The claims that Android 11, 12 or 13 are more efficient than 9 I have severe doubts about. Even if Google implements a more efficient file system the overhead of scoped storage* remains. I like to see a side by side comparison on a N10+ running on 9 vs 10, 11 and 12. No one does that.
*In Android 10 scoped storage isn't fully active. It doesn't seem faster than Pie and SOT may be slightly worse. Still playing with my other N10+ that was factory loaded with Q. I prefer Pie as it's more functional and easier to troubleshoot.
blackhawk said:
If you want good SOT go with a N10+*, they get 12+ hours SOT with a new battery. Browsing with Brave I was using 6%@hr when this battery was newer. A better balanced and more usable device... even today**.
The S23U is already shaping up to be more of the same Samsung bs... 3+ years of fail and ball drops.
*stock Snaps that are optimized. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance and SOT.
** I'm running Pie and Q so no CPU cycle sucking scoped storage. You'll be stuck with Android 12, 13 or 14 on the S23U. 13 is a mess. Google is more Apple now (as is Samsung) than it is Android... more dropped balls rolling around inside the machine.
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That's not what I am looking for. I want the latest and greatest to have good battery life. Not great but just good. I had the note 20 ultra and that thing had better battery than the s22 ultra. I am just hoping Samsung has figured it out with the s23.
borijess said:
That's not what I am looking for. I want the latest and greatest to have good battery life. Not great but just good. I had the note 20 ultra and that thing had better battery than the s22 ultra. I am just hoping Samsung has figured it out with the s23.
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Expect another hand warmer...
blackhawk said:
Expect another hand warmer...
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I hope not.
borijess said:
I hope not.
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Don't be the first to buy it. Samsung's recent track record speaks for itself. Besides they'll be more desperate after 6 months to sell the excess units. Predictably there will be a shortage of 1 and .5tb variants though.
blackhawk said:
Case in point how many megapixels will the new cam sensor have?
For that tiny sized sensor 20mp is pushing it. Little doubt the mp count will continue to climb at the cost of pixel light gathering ability and sampling accuracy. The newer generations of Samsung cams seem to be very power hungry as well.
What a sick joke.
The laser AF is a great benefit. That should have been implemented 5 or more years ago. Sony was using this technology back in 2004 on its cams. Not to worry if you don't have it as a 3mw 535nm laser pointer can be used for spot on AF lock ups on older phones
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You doubt but i don't since i now use gen 2 and before i used 2 gen 1 phones, the difference in battery is huge, incomparable
About the sensor, here is some technical info, it is miles better vs HM3 on 22U.
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刚刚发布的三星HP2极有可能成为S23Ultra主摄CMOS，尺寸1/1.3''，两亿像素十六合一，单像素0.6微米。从尺寸上看并不出奇，但这次三星点到了另一个科技树。 超大满阱容与D-VTG技术HP2的亮点在于其采用的D-VT…
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Its not about the megapixels but what tech is in it, and what it can do, this sensor is almost on imx 989 level
dazed1 said:
You doubt but i don't since i now use gen 2 and before i used 2 gen 1 phones, the difference in battery is huge, incomparable
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The new Samsung phones are battery hogs.
dazed1 said:
About the sensor, here is some technical info, it is miles better vs HM3 on 22U.
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Not my second language...
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三星两亿像素HP2技术解析：大满阱，双增益，与全向对焦
刚刚发布的三星HP2极有可能成为S23Ultra主摄CMOS，尺寸1/1.3''，两亿像素十六合一，单像素0.6微米。从尺寸上看并不出奇，但这次三星点到了另一个科技树。 超大满阱容与D-VTG技术HP2的亮点在于其采用的D-VT…
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Its not about the megapixels but what tech is in it, and what it can do, this sensor is almost on imx 989 level
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Micro lenses that small have less light gathering ability and waste real estate. The borders of those lens are wasted space, lots of wasted space on a sensor that has very little to spare. The quality of the micro lens are also suspect.
Pixel micro lense quality and individual pixel sampling capabilities are more important than pixel count. 12mp is a reasonable number and 20+mp is pure hype for a sensor this size.
A Canon pro shooter with a full frame sensor is only about 22-26mp. They will chew up any smartphone. Full frame digital movie cams boast a huge pixel count in the 20-40mp range.
blackhawk said:
The new Samsung phones are battery hogs.
Not my second language...
Micro lenses that small have less light gathering ability and waste real estate. The borders of those lens are wasted space, lots of wasted space on a sensor that has very little to spare. The quality of the micro lens are also suspect.
Pixel micro lense quality and individual pixel sampling capabilities are more important than pixel count. 12mp is a reasonable number and 20+mp is pure hype for a sensor this size.
A Canon pro shooter with a full frame sensor is only about 22-26mp. They will chew up any smartphone. Full frame digital movie cams boast a huge pixel count in the 20-40mp range.
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The link is in English, it address all of your concerns and ideas, this sensor FWC is 10k, it is monster in low light
In what segment of photography will canon chew up smartphones? Certainly in won't in single frame and low light with normal exposure times on both
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The link is in English, it address all of your concerns and ideas, this sensor FWC is 10k, it is monster in low light
In what segment of photography will canon chew up smartphones? Certainly in won't in single frame and low light with normal exposure times on both
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Single frame and especially low light. The large metal frame provides superior heat sinking and the sensor is also thermally isolated from the processors for a lower noise floor in low light.
A heavier frame with good hand holds means it's much easier to shoot with. Much faster bootups and almost no shutter lag.
On top of that huge lens are available. Some with 200mm front optics for optimum light gathering.
Smartphones do very well with what they got. I view the cam as a convenience not a dedicated shooting platform. Anymore it's all I shoot with. They have limitations and are harder to shoot with than dedicated systems. With no expandable storage they lack onboard backup, a huge disadvantage. Canon has had dual card/write capabilities for around 20 years on their pro models.
The shooter's skill is more important than the camera, one reason they're killing the camera market. On that same line of thinking the improvements on the newest smartphone cams won't make you a great shooter if you aren't.
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Single frame and especially low light. The large metal frame provides superior heat sinking and the sensor is also thermally isolated from the processors for a lower noise floor in low light.
A heavier frame with good hand holds means it's much easier to shoot with. Much faster bootups and almost no shutter lag.
On top of that huge lens are available. Some with 200mm front optics for optimum light gathering.
Smartphones do very well with what they got. I view the cam as a convenience not a dedicated shooting platform. Anymore it's all I shoot with. They have limitations and are harder to shoot with than dedicated systems. With no expandable storage they lack onboard backup, a huge disadvantage. Canon has had dual card/write capabilities for around 20 years on their pro models.
The shooter's skill is more important than the camera, one reason they're killing the camera market. On that same line of thinking the improvements on the newest smartphone cams won't make you a great shooter if you aren't.
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Most tests i saw by now DSLR vs phone (custom software on the phone - GCAM) results in either close battle, or win for the smartphone on lowish, and especially in low light.
There are numerous versus, if you are interested i can find samples. Single frame dslr cannot compete with 1'' sensor with 30 frames stacked and super advanced denoise algorithims/ISP, it will either burn the highlights, or be just dark.
Where dslr wins, is action shots, long range zooms, astro, portrait and video, not for static shooting.
Here is an example what a phone does in quite dark conditions, with advanced setup,
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Most tests i saw by now DSLR vs phone (custom software on the phone - GCAM) results in either close battle, or win for the smartphone on lowish, and especially in low light.
There are numerous versus, if you are interested i can find samples. Single frame dslr cannot compete with 1'' sensor with 30 frames stacked and super advanced denoise algorithims/ISP, it will either burn the highlights, or be just dark.
Where dslr wins, is action shots, long range zooms, astro, portrait and video, not for static shooting.
Here is an example what a phone does in quite dark conditions, with advanced setup,
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Lol, what phone has a 1 inch sensor?
Full frame sensors are 24×36mm ie 1.339 sq inches.
Believe what you want to... at least it will save you $10+G.
blackhawk said:
Lol, what phone has a 1 inch sensor?
Full frame sensors are 24×36mm ie 1.339 sq inches.
Believe what you want to... at least it will save you $10+G.
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Its not real 1'' but its very big, its bigger then Sony RX100 for example, its 132mm2, and sensor size doesnt matter as much when you got 30 frames stacked, that remove like 80% of the noise, and bring much more "light" into the sensor. No need to believe, ive seen the results,
And low light action shots? Books and parked cars don't move... people do.