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I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
SoreGums said:
Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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SD 821 is much more powerful than tegra x1 and yes it plays 10 bit hevc videos. I have Nvidia shield TV too, ja it's good but SD 821 is faster and better.
zmajdk said:
You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
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Yes, I saw many 4gb mi note 2 benchmark around 145-160k. With my unit (6gb mi note 2) i expect to see better ram performance but i got even lower than 4gb model. I think with newer rom update could improve ram management on 6gb model.
But as i said on original post that real world use i didnt get any pull down performance.
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
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You have to press to the home/fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock the phone at the same time.
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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vavida said:
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
zmajdk said:
The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless.
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Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
RoOSTA
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That is correct, but still it's done by one touch, while yu pressing the button the fingerprint scanner is unlocking the locked screen at same time.
Mi note 2 global version is about to be realest but all my Xiaomi mi phones are compatible in my country ( Denmark) so I am not bothered.
vavida said:
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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I think the word disappoint for display of mi note 2 is under expectation. Everyone who plan to buy this phone would expect to see gorgeous IPS curve display. But after you get the phone hand on and the color on the edge doesn't seem as expectation so it would be abit disappoint.
As a mi note2 user I would say first impression was abit disappointed for display. The color on curve edge seem abit blue (only on white background) and abit warm tone display (compared to 1+2 i had used before mi note2).
But after using this phone for few days you will get use to color of display. Now i didn't feel any color change on the curve edges (after get used to) but the curve edge of screen still make you feel good on hand. Normally we look directly to screen not to the curve so right now color on the curve doesn't make me feel bad otherwise curve is still curve every time you hold your phone you always feel good on hand.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Egde functions are only available with a theme called "minote2" and only in lockscreen.
Get it here http://en.miui.com/thread-393072-1-1.html
vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
Gesendet von meinem Redmi Note 3 mit Tapatalk
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Battery life in my opinion is the best i ever used. It take me pass daily usage with 30%+,- before go to bed.
Yesterday i put phone on airplane mode during 9.30 hours flight. Mi note 2 is handle idle so well.
Note 2 flaishing xiaomi.eu rom
zmajdk said:
Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
TGUY25 said:
I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
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1. Yes, bootloader must be unlocked and TWRP for Mi note 2 must be flashed at first.
2. There is a guide on xiaomi.eu site how to do it : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-29.37056/
I do not change phones very often. I have a redmi note 3 for about 3 years now, and I was looking for Mi 8 to launch in India for a possible upgrade. That's not likely to happen, and Redmi Note 7 is not likely to get launched in India for another month (at least). However, my phone has recently developed some issue which makes the display blank out randomly. Once blanked, it doesn't return for a few seconds (and sometimes for a few mins). Further, there is a constant earphone icon (without any earphones connected) which forces me to take all the calls on loudspeaker mode. This could be due to the recent fall (my phone has several scratches dents due to various falls from different heights), and that makes build quality an important consideration. Thus, I need to buy a new phone at the earliest.
A sale is going to start in a couple of days, which is offering Poco F1 (6/64) @ 19K and Redmi Note 6 Pro (4/64) @ 13K. I'm not much of a gamer. My primary phone usage include: browsing quora, and wi-fi hotspot from my 4G network. What I'm additionally looking for is good build quality, good battery life, and decent rear camera.
Based on the above requirement, and your experience, could you please recommend between Poco F1 and Redmi Note 6 Pro?
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I do not change phones very often. I have a redmi note 3 for about 3 years now, and I was looking for Mi 8 to launch in India for a possible upgrade. That's not likely to happen, and Redmi Note 7 is not likely to get launched in India for another month (at least). However, my phone has recently developed some issue which makes the display blank out randomly. Once blanked, it doesn't return for a few seconds (and sometimes for a few mins). Further, there is a constant earphone icon (without any earphones connected) which forces me to take all the calls on loudspeaker mode. This could be due to the recent fall (my phone has several scratches dents due to various falls from different heights), and that makes build quality an important consideration. Thus, I need to buy a new phone at the earliest.
A sale is going to start in a couple of days, which is offering Poco F1 (6/64) @ 19K and Redmi Note 6 Pro (4/64) @ 13K. I'm not much of a gamer. My primary phone usage include: browsing quora, and wi-fi hotspot from my 4G network. What I'm additionally looking for is good build quality, good battery life, and decent rear camera.
Based on the above requirement, and your experience, could you please recommend between Poco F1 and Redmi Note 6 Pro?
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I would say the build quality is going to be about the same on both phones. The battery life should be a little better on the redmi as it has a lesser chipset, but same size 4000mah battery capacity. As for the camera, id say try and find some comparison shots from both cameras. According to gsm arena, they sound like they have the same cameras, apart from the redmi has a depth sensor lens on the selfie camera. They may use different sensors though?
if you can afford poco f1, then it's a no brainer really.
I guess there is no clear winner here.
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This will be a summary based on Youtube reviews and in-depth articles coming from popular tech portals such as Android Authority, GSM Arena and XDA Developers.
In terms of design and built quality both of these devices are very eye-pleasing, each having its own unique look. The Redmi Note 7 Pro impresses with its glossy gradient color finish (Aura Design) which results in a more premium look and feel compared to the Realme 3 Pro which has a polycarbonate back that looks nice due to its S-shape pattern (3D Speedway Design). Here is where the Redmi Note 7 Pro has the upper hand due to its Gorilla Glass 5 back which has a better protection against scratches than the polycarbonate back found on the Realme 3 Pro. Because of the way it's built the former feels better in hand and more solid than the latter, giving the impression of a true flagship experience. Although it remains only a matter of preference as far as design is concerned, still the Redmi Note 7 Pro is the one which offers a more premium aspect. The buttons feedback is quite good on both devices. They have a fair amount of "click" to them and behave as expected. The Redmi Note 7 Pro is equipped with splash protection thanks to the P2i nano-coating, while the Realme 3 Pro claims to have some dust and splash protection as well, although we have no information about its rating since it has not yet been disclosed.
Both devices have very reliable fingerprint scanners on the back which are quite consistent and hardly ever fail. And despite the hype around UD fingerprint scanners, it's actually a plus to have a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner on these devices since they are much more reliable and much faster than the former ones, and there is also the possibility of applying a tempered glass while having the ability to use the fingerprint scanner in the same time, which is something that cannot be achieved with UD fingerprint scanners, although there are some tempered glass manufacturers which are already developing a type of glass that also works with in-display fingerprint scanners, but the price will be quite high and we aren't sure about their reliability either. It's a shame that the trustworthy rear-mounted fingerprint scanners are slowly being replaced with UD fingerprint scanners, but I digress...
Moving to the display quality both devices have very decent panels with Gorilla Glass 5 protection, good viewing angles, color accuracy, crisp image quality and same size. But due to the different calibration mode the media viewing experience and sunlight visibility is slightly better on the Redmi Note 7 Pro. And as far as the notch is concerned, the dot-notch on the Redmi Note 7 Pro and dewdrop-notch on the Realme 3 Pro look equally nice with minimal intrusion. On the other hand the Realme 3 Pro has thinner bezels compared to the Redmi Note 7 Pro giving a better screen-to-ratio, however the downside of this is the fact that it is more prone to accidental touches on the sides. Also there are no screen-bleeding issues to worry about in both cases.
In the chipset department both devices are equipped with the very best hardware currently found in mid-range smartphones, and the performance is so good that it's literally no different from a true flagship performance as far as overall experience is concerned when it comes to basic tasks like calling, messaging, browsing and so forth. The Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with the Snapdragon 675 SoC which is equipped with the newer and more powerful Kryo 460 CPU which gives a higher overall score in benchmarks, and the Adreno 612 GPU which performs very well in most situations and even in more demanding scenarios such as heavy games which require more power, while the Realme 3 Pro comes with the Snapdragon 710 SoC which is equipped with the older Kryo 360 CPU, but with the more powerful Adreno 616 GPU which offers a better gaming performance. However, as far as day-to-day experience is concerned both of the devices perform more or less the same. The Snapdragon 675 SoC is built on the 11nm-FinFET technology while the Snapdragon 710 SoC is built on the 10nm-FinFET technology which in theory should give a slightly better power efficiency. But since the Kryo 360 CPU (2x2.2 GHz/Gold Cores) on the Realme 3 Pro is clocked slightly higher than the Kryo 460 CPU (2x2.0 GHz/Gold Cores) on the Redmi Note 7 Pro, both of the devices will have more or less the same power efficiency as the battery capacity (4000 mAh for the RN7Pro and 4045 mAh for the RM3Pro) is the same for the most part with negligible differences. The Snapdragon 675 SoC on the Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with the upgraded Quick Charge 4+ technology, while the Snapdragon 710 SoC on the Realme 3 Pro comes with the standard Quick Charge 4 technology. Something to keep in mind as well. The China 6GB/128GB variant of the Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with the 18W Quick Charge 3.0 charger in the box (1h and 45m charging time from 0-100%), while the Indian 4GB/64GB variant comes with the standard 10W charger in the box. On the other hand the Realme 3 Pro comes with the VOOC Flash Charge 3.0 charger in the box (1h and 20m charging time from 0-100%) which performs really well ensuring a significantly faster charging time than you would normally get for a device in this price segment. However the Redmi Note 7 Pro is equipped with a USB type-C charging port, while the Realme 3 Pro sticks with the old micro-USB charging port which is a sure minus.
Moving on to the camera department, the Redmi Note 7 Pro blows the competition away by showing its amazing photography capabilities provided by the main Sony IMX586 sensor which is found on flagships like MI 9, OnePlus 7 Pro, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom and Meizu 16s. The 48MP 1/2" large camera sensor ensures a great low-light performance thanks to the Quad-Bayer array with its pixel-binning technology which increases the overall exposure, sharpness, detail, color accuracy and dynamic range. The Realme 3 Pro is equipped with the Sony IMX519 sensor which is found on flagships like Lenovo Z5 Pro GT, OnePlus 6T and Oppo Find X. Although its 16MP main camera sensor is capable of clicking very good photos, it falls short when it comes to low-light performance due to its smaller 1/2.6" sensor, but given the right amount of light it manages to capture decent photos by using Nightscape. A more bothersome issue however is the image processing implementation provided by Realme. Because of it photos and videos end up looking very unrealistic and oversaturated with a predominant greenish tint. It very much looks like some sort of filters are applied by default when clicking photos in the same manner you would apply filters in post-processing. And the Chroma Boost mode exaggerates the oversaturation even further which completely distorts the color accuracy of the photos. I suspect Realme is trying to make up for the loss of dynamic range by doing so, yet the end result is nowhere near as you get with the pixel-binning technology provided by the Sony IMX586 sensor which captures photos with a much more natural look thanks to Xiaomi's better image processing implementation. As for the 64MP Ultra HD Mode on the Realme 3 Pro is just a gimmick achieved by pixel interpolation with added oversharpening, but gives good results nonetheless during daytime. Whereas the Redmi Note 7 Pro natively supports 48MP snapshots which can be captured by using the PRO mode. The 960fps Super Slo-Mo Video on the Realme 3 Pro is also a software gimmick since the Snapdragon 710 chipset is not natively equipped with such a feature, but it's nice to have it anyway. However overall video quality is better on the Redmi Note 7 Pro which provides more clarity, color accuracy, dynamic range and much better EIS. AI Scene Detection seems to work very well on both devices, while the HDR mode seems to be better on the Realme 3 Pro in some cases. But in most scenarios the Redmi Note 7 Pro manages to bring back detail from shadows without blowing up the highlights. However the portrait mode is absolutely stellar on the Redmi Note 7 Pro, and with the help of GCam you could achieve astonishing results which are on par with many high-end cameras. Although the edge detection could be better.
Something important to note here is the upgraded Spectra 250L ISP present in the Snapdragon 675 which provides even better image processing compared to the standard Spectra 250 ISP present in the Snapdragon 710. As far as the secondary depth sensors are concerned, they have more or less the same performance on both devices, but due to the different image processing on the Realme 3 Pro the photos captured with this device end up having more background blur. On the other hand the Redmi Note 7 Pro has a Dual-LED flash, whereas the Realme 3 Pro has a Single-LED flash.
Speaking of low-light photography, here is where the Redmi Note 7 Pro excels by achieving amazing results using the manual long-exposure found in the PRO mode. I will share a SOOC photograph below captured by Nilesh Jaybhaye (XDA Forums) with the Redmi Note 7 Pro which shows the true potential of the Sony IMX586 sensor.
Exposure time: 16s
ISO: 1600
Aperture Value: 1.67 EV
Focal length: 4.7mm
Image size: 4000x3000 pixels
This is absolutely incredible! It shows just how far smartphone photography has evolved. Normally such a shot could only be achieved with a professional high-end camera, and the fact that you can now obtain such amazing results with a mid-range device such as the Redmi Note 7 Pro is nothing short of phenomenal! Great value for money? A resounding YES!
As for the night-mode implementation I must say I'm actually surprised... When there's enough light it performs even better than GCam's night-sight in terms of highlights conservation, sharpness and overall exposure. However, it seems all this is achieved at the expense of detail loss which can be clearly seen once you zoom into the photo. And here is where GCam's night-sight excels by preserving more detail, but on the other hand failing to impress when it comes to highlights conservation (street lights and luminous signboards are completely blown out), while sharpness and overall exposure fall short as well. MIUI's night-mode implementation is one of the best I've seen so far. It's almost on par with Huawei's night-mode processing, but still there is room for improvement when it comes to detail preservation. The Sony IMX586 sensor has a lot of potential and with the proper night-mode implementation it can do much better than this. But GCam's night-sight is absolutely stellar when it comes to extreme low-light situations.
I would like to see Xiaomi work harder towards polishing a more refined night-mode implementation. The one developed by Realme isn't bad either, and in some situations photos shot with Nightscape manage to preserve even more detail than the photos shot with Xiaomi's night-mode.
Now coming to the front-facing camera, both devices perform very well during daylight. The 13MP Omnivision sensor on the Redmi Note 7 Pro can achieve good results given the right amount of light, but struggles in poorly lit scenarios where it disappoints. Here is where the 25MP sensor on the Realme 3 Pro excels and manages to give amazing low-light results putting the Redmi Note 7 Pro to shame. Because of this the face-unlock is much more reliable and performs better than the one found on the Redmi Note 7 Pro. But Xiaomi has already promised to bring improvements in this department so it remains a work in progress.
The Redmi Note 7 Pro is equipped with an IR blaster which is not present on the Realme 3 Pro. However the latter is equipped with a newer X15 LTE modem providing faster download speeds up to 800 Mbps, while the X12 LTE modem found on the Redmi Note 7 Pro provides download speeds up to 600 Mbps. The Realme 3 Pro is also lighter than the Redmi Note 7 Pro, the former weighing 172 g, while the latter weighing 186 g. But the weight distribution on the Redmi Note 7 Pro is done very well and only adds to the solid feel of the device. The Redmi Note 7 Pro scores another point with its useful LED notification light which is absent on the Realme 3 Pro. However the Realme 3 Pro has a better SIM-slot with the ability to use two nano-SIM cards and a MicroSD card at the same time, whereas the Redmi Note 7 Pro has a hybrid SIM-slot. Both devices have an FM Radio. The speaker found on the Realme 3 Pro is louder, however the audio quality on the Redmi Note 7 Pro is much better, with a more clear, crisp sound and punchy bass. And there is no distortion present at maximum volume. It performs surprisingly well for a mid-range device and offers a great audio playback experience. The output coming from the 3.5mm jack port also seems to be better on the Redmi Note 7 Pro, delivering a more balanced and rich sound than the Realme 3 Pro.
As for the OS department it remains a matter of personal preference, although MIUI is much more polished and feature-packed than Color OS and it also benefits from a larger developer community with more support. This being said, both the Redmi Note 7 Pro and the Realme 3 Pro perform exceptionally well with no bothersome lags or unexpected crashes.
Realme 3 Pro has managed to put up quite a fight and it definitely deserves your full attention and appreciation. But did it succeed in dethroning the Redmi Note 7 Pro? Not at all! The king still reigns supreme! Xiaomi has nothing to worry about, but the company should definitely step up the game in the software department.
FINAL VERDICT:
If you are aiming for a better gaming experience go for the Realme 3 Pro.
But for everything else the Redmi Note 7 Pro remains the best option out of the two, especially if you are searching for the best smartphone camera money can buy. This is the best mid-range option for photography enthusiasts!
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This will be a summary based on Youtube reviews and in-depth articles coming from popular tech portals such as Android Authority, GSM Arena and XDA Developers.
In terms of design and built quality both of these devices are very eye-pleasing, each having its own unique look. The Redmi Note 7 Pro impresses with its glossy gradient color finish (Aura Design) which results in a more premium look and feel compared to the Realme 3 Pro which has a polycarbonate back that looks nice due to its S-shape pattern (3D Speedway Design). Here is where the Redmi Note 7 Pro has the upper hand due to its Gorilla Glass 5 back which has a better protection against scratches than the polycarbonate back found on the Realme 3 Pro. Because of the way it's built the former feels better in hand and more solid than the latter, giving the impression of a true flagship experience. Although it remains only a matter of preference as far as design is concerned, still the Redmi Note 7 Pro is the one which offers a more premium aspect. The buttons feedback is quite good on both devices. They have a fair amount of "click" to them and behave as expected. The Redmi Note 7 Pro is equipped with splash protection thanks to the P2i nano-coating, while the Realme 3 Pro claims to have some dust and splash protection as well, although we have no information about its rating since it has not yet been disclosed.
Both devices have very reliable fingerprint scanners on the back which are quite consistent and hardly ever fail. And despite the hype around UD fingerprint scanners, it's actually a plus to have a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner on these devices since they are much more reliable and much faster than the former ones, and there is also the possibility of applying a tempered glass while having the ability to use the fingerprint scanner in the same time, which is something that cannot be achieved with UD fingerprint scanners, although there are some tempered glass manufacturers which are already developing a type of glass that also works with in-display fingerprint scanners, but the price will be quite high and we aren't sure about their reliability either. It's a shame that the trustworthy rear-mounted fingerprint scanners are slowly being replaced with UD fingerprint scanners, but I digress...
Moving to the display quality both devices have very decent panels with Gorilla Glass 5 protection, good viewing angles, color accuracy, crisp image quality and same size. But due to the different calibration mode the media viewing experience and sunlight visibility is slightly better on the Redmi Note 7 Pro. And as far as the notch is concerned, the dot-notch on the Redmi Note 7 Pro and dewdrop-notch on the Realme 3 Pro look equally nice with minimal intrusion. On the other hand the Realme 3 Pro has thinner bezels compared to the Redmi Note 7 Pro giving a better screen-to-ratio, however the downside of this is the fact that it is more prone to accidental touches on the sides. Also there are no screen-bleeding issues to worry about in both cases.
In the chipset department both devices are equipped with the very best hardware currently found in mid-range smartphones, and the performance is so good that it's literally no different from a true flagship performance as far as overall experience is concerned when it comes to basic tasks like calling, messaging, browsing and so forth. The Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with the Snapdragon 675 SoC which is equipped with the newer and more powerful Kryo 460 CPU which gives a higher overall score in benchmarks, and the Adreno 612 GPU which performs very well in most situations and even in more demanding scenarios such as heavy games which require more power, while the Realme 3 Pro comes with the Snapdragon 710 SoC which is equipped with the older Kryo 360 CPU, but with the more powerful Adreno 616 GPU which offers a better gaming performance. However, as far as day-to-day experience is concerned both of the devices perform more or less the same. The Snapdragon 675 SoC is built on the 11nm-FinFET technology while the Snapdragon 710 SoC is built on the 10nm-FinFET technology which in theory should give a slightly better power efficiency. But since the Kryo 360 CPU (2x2.2 GHz/Gold Cores) on the Realme 3 Pro is clocked slightly higher than the Kryo 460 CPU (2x2.0 GHz/Gold Cores) on the Redmi Note 7 Pro, both of the devices will have more or less the same power efficiency as the battery capacity (4000 mAh for the RN7Pro and 4045 mAh for the RM3Pro) is the same for the most part with negligible differences. The Snapdragon 675 SoC on the Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with the upgraded Quick Charge 4+ technology, while the Snapdragon 710 SoC on the Realme 3 Pro comes with the standard Quick Charge 4 technology. Something to keep in mind as well. The China 6GB/128GB variant of the Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with the 18W Quick Charge 3.0 charger in the box (1h and 45m charging time from 0-100%), while the Indian 4GB/64GB variant comes with the standard 10W charger in the box. On the other hand the Realme 3 Pro comes with the VOOC Flash Charge 3.0 charger in the box (1h and 20m charging time from 0-100%) which performs really well ensuring a significantly faster charging time than you would normally get for a device in this price segment. However the Redmi Note 7 Pro is equipped with a USB type-C charging port, while the Realme 3 Pro sticks with the old micro-USB charging port which is a sure minus.
Moving on to the camera department, the Redmi Note 7 Pro blows the competition away by showing its amazing photography capabilities provided by the main Sony IMX586 sensor which is found on flagships like MI 9, OnePlus 7 Pro, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom and Meizu 16s. The 48MP 1/2" large camera sensor ensures a great low-light performance thanks to the Quad-Bayer array with its pixel-binning technology which increases the overall exposure, sharpness, detail, color accuracy and dynamic range. The Realme 3 Pro is equipped with the Sony IMX519 sensor which is found on flagships like Lenovo Z5 Pro GT, OnePlus 6T and Oppo Find X. Although its 16MP main camera sensor is capable of clicking very good photos, it falls short when it comes to low-light performance due to its smaller 1/2.6" sensor, but given the right amount of light it manages to capture decent photos by using Nightscape. A more bothersome issue however is the image processing implementation provided by Realme. Because of it photos and videos end up looking very unrealistic and oversaturated with a predominant greenish tint. It very much looks like some sort of filters are applied by default when clicking photos in the same manner you would apply filters in post-processing. And the Chroma Boost mode exaggerates the oversaturation even further which completely distorts the color accuracy of the photos. I suspect Realme is trying to make up for the loss of dynamic range by doing so, yet the end result is nowhere near as you get with the pixel-binning technology provided by the Sony IMX586 sensor which captures photos with a much more natural look thanks to Xiaomi's better image processing implementation. As for the 64MP Ultra HD Mode on the Realme 3 Pro is just a gimmick achieved by pixel interpolation with added oversharpening, but gives good results nonetheless during daytime. Whereas the Redmi Note 7 Pro natively supports 48MP snapshots which can be captured by using the PRO mode. The 960fps Super Slo-Mo Video on the Realme 3 Pro is also a software gimmick since the Snapdragon 710 chipset is not natively equipped with such a feature, but it's nice to have it anyway. However overall video quality is better on the Redmi Note 7 Pro which provides more clarity, color accuracy, dynamic range and much better EIS. AI Scene Detection seems to work very well on both devices, while the HDR mode seems to be better on the Realme 3 Pro in some cases. But in most scenarios the Redmi Note 7 Pro manages to bring back detail from shadows without blowing up the highlights. However the portrait mode is absolutely stellar on the Redmi Note 7 Pro, and with the help of GCam you could achieve astonishing results which are on par with many high-end cameras. Although the edge detection could be better.
Something important to note here is the upgraded Spectra 250L ISP present in the Snapdragon 675 which provides even better image processing compared to the standard Spectra 250 ISP present in the Snapdragon 710. As far as the secondary depth sensors are concerned, they have more or less the same performance on both devices, but due to the different image processing on the Realme 3 Pro the photos captured with this device end up having more background blur. On the other hand the Redmi Note 7 Pro has a Dual-LED flash, whereas the Realme 3 Pro has a Single-LED flash.
Speaking of low-light photography, here is where the Redmi Note 7 Pro excels by achieving amazing results using the manual long-exposure found in the PRO mode. I will share a SOOC photograph below captured by Nilesh Jaybhaye (XDA Forums) with the Redmi Note 7 Pro which shows the true potential of the Sony IMX586 sensor.
Exposure time: 16s
ISO: 1600
Aperture Value: 1.67 EV
Focal length: 4.7mm
Image size: 4000x3000 pixels
This is absolutely incredible! It shows just how far smartphone photography has evolved. Normally such a shot could only be achieved with a professional high-end camera, and the fact that you can now obtain such amazing results with a mid-range device such as the Redmi Note 7 Pro is nothing short of phenomenal! Great value for money? A resounding YES!
As for the night-mode implementation I must say I'm actually surprised... When there's enough light it performs even better than GCam's night-sight in terms of highlights conservation, sharpness and overall exposure. However, it seems all this is achieved at the expense of detail loss which can be clearly seen once you zoom into the photo. And here is where GCam's night-sight excels by preserving more detail, but on the other hand failing to impress when it comes to highlights conservation (street lights and luminous signboards are completely blown out), while sharpness and overall exposure fall short as well. MIUI's night-mode implementation is one of the best I've seen so far. It's almost on par with Huawei's night-mode processing, but still there is room for improvement when it comes to detail preservation. The Sony IMX586 sensor has a lot of potential and with the proper night-mode implementation it can do much better than this. But GCam's night-sight is absolutely stellar when it comes to extreme low-light situations.
I would like to see Xiaomi work harder towards polishing a more refined night-mode implementation. The one developed by Realme isn't bad either, and in some situations photos shot with Nightscape manage to preserve even more detail than the photos shot with Xiaomi's night-mode.
Now coming to the front-facing camera, both devices perform very well during daylight. The 13MP Omnivision sensor on the Redmi Note 7 Pro can achieve good results given the right amount of light, but struggles in poorly lit scenarios where it disappoints. Here is where the 25MP sensor on the Realme 3 Pro excels and manages to give amazing low-light results putting the Redmi Note 7 Pro to shame. Because of this the face-unlock is much more reliable and performs better than the one found on the Redmi Note 7 Pro. But Xiaomi has already promised to bring improvements in this department so it remains a work in progress.
The Redmi Note 7 Pro is equipped with an IR blaster which is not present on the Realme 3 Pro. However the latter is equipped with a newer X15 LTE modem providing faster download speeds up to 800 Mbps, while the X12 LTE modem found on the Redmi Note 7 Pro provides download speeds up to 600 Mbps. The Realme 3 Pro is also lighter than the Redmi Note 7 Pro, the former weighing 172 g, while the latter weighing 186 g. But the weight distribution on the Redmi Note 7 Pro is done very well and only adds to the solid feel of the device. The Redmi Note 7 Pro scores another point with its useful LED notification light which is absent on the Realme 3 Pro. However the Realme 3 Pro has a better SIM-slot with the ability to use two nano-SIM cards and a MicroSD card at the same time, whereas the Redmi Note 7 Pro has a hybrid SIM-slot. Both devices have an FM Radio. The speaker found on the Realme 3 Pro is louder, however the audio quality seems to be more or less the same on both devices. The output coming from the 3.5mm jack port is arguably better on the Redmi Note 7 Pro which seems to deliver a more balanced sound than the Realme 3 Pro.
As for the OS department it remains a matter of personal preference, although MIUI is much more polished and feature-packed than Color OS and it also benefits from a larger developer community with more support. This being said, both the Redmi Note 7 Pro and the Realme 3 Pro perform exceptionally well with no bothersome lags or unexpected crashes.
Realme 3 Pro has managed to put up quite a fight and it definitely deserves your full attention and appreciation. But did it succeed in dethroning the Redmi Note 7 Pro? Not at all! The king still reigns supreme! Xiaomi has nothing to worry about, but the company should definitely step up the game in the software department.
FINAL VERDICT:
If you are aiming for a better gaming experience go for the Realme 3 Pro.
But for everything else the Redmi Note 7 Pro remains the best option out of the two, especially if you are searching for the best smartphone camera money can buy. This is the best mid-range option for photography enthusiasts!
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Redmi Note 7 pro is amazing device. It's a truly a camera beast in this price segment. I just got one question is that possible to get Super Slow Motion on Our Redmi note 7 pro with the help of some software updates.
realme 3 is a crap device.... no one in their right mind, gamer or not gamer would choose the realme 3 over the redmi note 7. even the realme name is a knock off ... come on, be real. its like someone making new shoes and calling it "nite" and then doing a comparison to real nikes and expecting people to take them seriously. only idiots would choose the realme brand over xiaomi.
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Redmi Note 7 pro is amazing device. It's a truly a camera beast in this price segment. I just got one question is that possible to get Super Slow Motion on Our Redmi note 7 pro with the help of some software updates.
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Yes. It is possible to get this feature via software update if enough users will demand it.
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Redmi Note 7 pro is amazing device. It's a truly a camera beast in this price segment. I just got one question is that possible to get Super Slow Motion on Our Redmi note 7 pro with the help of some software updates.
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Wow dude you had to quote the whole OP
raymerjacque said:
realme 3 is a crap device.... no one in their right mind, gamer or not gamer would choose the realme 3 over the redmi note 7. even the realme name is a knock off ... come on, be real. its like someone making new shoes and calling it "nite" and then doing a comparison to real nikes and expecting people to take them seriously. only idiots would choose the realme brand over xiaomi.
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Lol I upgrade from RN5Pro To RealMe3Pro
The Honor 9X is one of our favorite budget phones of 2019. While the Honor 9X implemented lots of great features into their device, other companies have put out some really competitive options. See how the Honor 9X compares to the competition.
Honor 9X €299.00
The Honor 9X is the first in the X-series line to feature a pop-up camera. This pop-up camera has a fully motorized design. When the selfie mode is activated, the camera will quickly rise from the top of the phone. To really enhance the full-screen notch-free effect of the phone, Honor fitted a larger display into the phone at 6.59″. The end result is a large full screen phone with a very convenient motorized pop-up camera.
With the 9X, Honor put a great deal of attention into the photography aspect of this phone. The device is fitted with a 48MP triple camera that includes an 8MP ultra-wide lens and a 2MP depth sensor. The f/1.8 aperture is paired with the half-inch sensor to produce super clear photos. The AIS super night mode promises improve your low-light photos. Observe some of our initial sample shots here.
Aside from the pop-up camera, the Honor 9X sports some fantastic specs and features for a phone under €300. The Honor 9X features the Kirin 710F and 6GB of RAM. There are other models that come with the Kirin 810, but for one reason or another this isn’t included in every model. This makes the processor a very mild upgrade from the previous Honor 8X which came with the Kirin 710. With that being said, there is not much to criticize when it comes to performance on this phone.
Overall, the Honor 9X is the best of the X-Series so far. While the camera is usually the main feature to suffer in budget phones, the 48MP shooter on the 9X is actually one of the best aspects of this device. The Honor 9X is a great deal for anyone looking to get the most out of their smartphone camera.
This is the best phone under €300 in 2019, but there are plenty of other great budget phones that came out this year. See some of the other good options below.
Motorola Moto One Action $249.99
The Moto One Action has really great specs for the price, but stands out because of the unique 21:9 display. Very few phones have this aspect ratio, and most of them have much higher prices. This makes the Moto One Action special, as an entry level phone for those who are looking for this type of display. Aside from this, you’ll have a triple camera setup for great photos.
GOOGLE PIXEL 3A XL $348.99
The Pixel 3A XL is the best option to get into the pure Google experience from Pixel phones, without shelling out massive amounts of money. The camera quality is decent for a single sensor design, and you can expect to be first in line for future Android Updates.
Huawei P30 Lite $279.00
The Huawei P30 Lite is a good option for people looking for a triple camera setup. Don’t expect the best quality from this camera, but the performance of the phone overall is very good.
Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite $279.99
The Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite is one of the best phones in the budget category. For the low $279 price, you’ll get a 48MP triple camera, 32MP selfie camera, a huge 4030mAh battery and a large 6.38 display. It’s a great phone for the price, and Xiaomi has been killing it with their software experience lately.
Read the full article here: How Does the Honor 9X Compare to Other Budget Phones?
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
Umb0 said:
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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I saw you reposted your question somewhere else, so I'm reposting mine answer too
Well, mate. Simple answer to your question would be: probably yes. I'll explain this "probably" bit later
At first, I've been using stock MIUI ROM only for one week. I've instantly applied for unlocking bootloader in order to flash Xiaomi.eu, which is a debloated version of MIUI with some improvements. I think it improves an overall performance a little bit. There are some other custom ROMs available for tucana, based on AOSP, but I prefer to stay with MIUI at the moment.
1) Camera: It's really good, but it could be even better with better SoC In my opinion, it is bit too weak at least for the huge main lens. Sometimes it lags, but it's not absolutely bad though. The pics quality is really good. Especially huge main lens gives bright, clear photos, it shines most in the night/low light scenarios. Even better with GCam. OIS is an excellent addon. Tele lenses are good enough, wide angle as well. Macro lens is only 2mpx and it is useful for me only when I need to take a photo of a very close object (1-2 cm), but quality is rather poor. But surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
Just one thing: main lens isn't very good for macro shots. Because of its size, it can blur edges of the objects. But for landscapes and people it's just perfect.
There is a PRO mode with EV correction, exposure time, focus and white balance manual sliders. You can get additional features like long exposure, cloninig and stickers with a Magisk module (they are present on stock in Mi Note 10 pro).
Overall, I would give 8 out of 10 as for camera experience.
2) Storage: 128GB is more than enough for me. My previous device was Redmi Note 4 with 32GB plus 16BG on SD card and I managed as well. If you keep your device reasonably clean, I dont think there is much to worry. I sync my photos with Google Photos, so I can delete them from storage later. The only minor inconvenience is that when I want to/have to make factory reset (granted, most people dont do it often ), I have to copy files from internal storage to USB rather than keep them on SD card. But I can live with that.
3) Skin: I've always liked MIUI, so I'm satisfied. Stock features are ok, although I always like to customize my device as much as possible, so I root it and use Xposed Framework. But this is mainly matter of personal preferences. MIUI is heavy skin though, so it can explain occasional lags and little worse battery life than you could expect from >5000mAh battery. It's not absolutely bad though, I can easily use the phone more than one day with moderate usage (I don't play games).
I didn't notice much heating during usage, although as I mentioned, I'm not a gamer It heats a bit only when turbo charging, but it's not unusual.
3) AMOLED screen: Perfect for me. Nothing to complain about. Some people doesn't like rounded edges, I don't mind. Quality is excellent. OLED gives inifinite contrast, so black is totally black (because unused pixels are just turned off). Highest brightness is high enought to see everything even in sunlight (this is the biggest advantage over LCD). And you can use Always-on Display - I like this feature a lot.
4) Software: With stock ROM, as far as I know, updates are not that rare, but not very frequent too. The phone just got official Android 11 and since it started with A9, it's probably last major update (but probably will be getting new MIUI longer). I use weekly beta and I have A11 for some time already Actually there is one annoyance with MIUI based on A11: permissions and restrictions. You have to manually grant almost all permissions and with those more sensitive, you have to wait 10 seconds until the system lets you to grant it. It drives me crazy but fortunately, you have to do it only once Generally, MIUI A11 performes just ok.
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
Lord Sithek said:
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
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My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Lord Sithek said:
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
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Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
Umb0 said:
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
(Open...
I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
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Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
Lord Sithek said:
...surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
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Thanks for the tip, that was a revelation!
I've had the Mi Note 10 for just over a year, and I'd buy it again. The stock camera sometimes over-processes/saturates greens in landscapes, but it's not a deal-breaker. The portrait mode can produce some excellent pics. I've occasionally tried Gcam mods, but the stock camera is good enough most of the time.
Lord Sithek said:
Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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The more I look at the pics the Mi Note 10 can take, the more I'm set to it.
I was looking at the Mi 10T too.
I may buy it or the Mi Note 10 for the same price right now.
Speaking for myself, the Mi 10T sports a number of features that I don't find useful or even valuable, but I'd have to pay for nonetheless.
5G support is a pink invisible unicorn in my Country, at least for a good while. 4G devices are perfect.
The high Hz panel is a battery drain I don't need. You want 144 Hz? The chip must compose and present each. Talking of a... *mumbling* some quick math... 60:100=144:x ... x=144*100/60 ... x=240%... umm, talking of a +140% workload increase over a 60 Hz panel. No thanks!
The SoC is also powerful. Perhaps too much? My P9 runs 4x @ 2.5 and 4x @ 1.8 GHz cores. I can tell you it drains the battery quickly. I value more a slower chip that won't drink energy like beer.
Then there's the IPS vs. AMOLED thing... I've been living with IPS for the last 4.5 years and I appreciate it, but in total darkness the grey fog where black should be is gonna make you wish you chose differently.
Last, but not least, I have no samples to compare the Cameras against other devices. I'm sure that the Camera department has been shrunk to contain the production costs. It also lacks OIS, which I want this time around
As for the Lite versions... they were all in my radar. But none has OIS, and their photos always show artifacts from lot of Post-Processing (PP) to enhance the details. Sure, every phone does PP, but there's a reason if the more expensive devices don't need as much PP as the midrangers.
Camera wise, the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 is something! It's also modern and doesn't cost me a fortune
What I'm not thrilled about are the panel's rounded edges. Will get used to 'em, but I don't dig the change.
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Spoiler: 33 Hours Later (a true story)...
I'll just edit this in, hoping it's not against forum rules.
This afternoon I went to buy the smartphone. I could hardly believe to have found it so close to home (6 km) and at such a low price (349 €). And it was not from some minuscule shop nobody heard of, but in a Shopping Center and from none other than... um, I'm not sure I can name them.
(Open...
But I can reveal that it's a 2-words name, each word starting with M and each 5 characters long.
In their ads a capital red M character is also the omnipresent 3D object appearing in place of whatever the advertized product is.
Funny how they use their original name in all Europe, but in my Country alone they operate under a different name (always starting with M. Also, the ads copy the same graphics as the german originals).
... closed)
Anyway...
When I go at the counter, the surprises begin. They have 6 units total available and each box is NOT sealed, each phone has a protective film applied ALREADY, and there's a hidden EXTRA cost of 24 € for the "service", in addition to the price stated online.
I couldn't believe my ears as the clerk explained this stuff.
I asked if the phones were returned products or even refurbished, for none of this was explained or hinted at, online.
Heed his words: he didn't say they were "new" or "not refurbished", he said they were "not damaged products"!
Yeah, right...
I said this to him: "You can't prove your claim since the boxes are open. Keep your pre-applied protective films. For 350 euros I buy a sealed box covered by full warranty. You have one ready now, or I go away".
He mumbled: "I'm sorry" while turning at his monitor -- couldn't sustain my stare.
I didn't buy online to reserve the merchandise.
I could do so up until midnight yesterday, but waited too much and lost the opportunity (for reason unknown the merchandise went Unavailable for the time being).
Lady Luck herself made me miss the deal -- thank you thank you thank you!
Had I bought online, now it'd be trouble because... 1) I wouldn't get my money back (they'd give me a time-limited voucher valid in their shops only, but they got nothing I want) and... 2) to retrieve my merchandise at the counter I'd be charged the hidden 24 € -- else I wouldn't walk away with my property. Believe, it's all true!
I wonder what would have been sent me if I purchased online and chose to have it delivered home, and shudder at the idea of receiving a refurbished unit sold for pristine.
This thought is further strengthened by the customer reviews found on the website. Two reviews only, the last one from December 2020 saying that he "likes the Mi Note 10 but is disappointed by the lame touch display and fingerprint sensor".
From all accounts the Mi Note 10 doesn't mount lame hardware. I believe that this guy was sold a refurbished unit and he doesn't suspect it. He also praised the low price of the Mi Note 10. Sounds like he got a device from the lot I was presented today.
This is plain Commercial Misbehavior
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In the end I bought the smartphone, at another shop, for another price.
I opted to have it delivered at the very shop, because it's near home and I'd go retrieve it myself.
Why use a courier when the shop is a mere 3 km from home -- right?
The package will arrive in two days from now, that is: the coming Monday... however I won't be able to retrieve it because starting with Monday we're in Lockdown and all shops will be closed. Until March 29th.
Covid sucks in every way