I've been trying out both the P30 pro and P30. (I also tried the S10+ and S10 snapdragon shortly). I'll give me opinions. Note I'm coming from a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact (4.6in phone)
The P30 pro vs S10+ and P30 vs S10 feel exactly the same in size but the Huawei feel much heavier. The P30 and S10 fit in my pocket more comfortably and felt better in my hand. I felt the P30 pro and S10+ a little too big and uncomfortable. In my shirt pocket, it felt strange as it dragged my shirt down.
The button placement on the Samsung is terrible. The power button is way too high and they put the rest of the buttons directly across. So when you reach up, you keep hitting the other buttons.
I found that on the samsungs, my palm was hitting the edges very often even after configuring a larger edge area. I did not have this issue with the huawei.
I found the fingerprint and face unlock much faster on the Huawei phones
I used Nova Launcher so I didn't notice a whole lot of difference between One UI and EMUI. I actually felt it was harder to find things in settings on the Saumsung. Overall usage was about the same.
The samsung supports MST which lets you pay nearly anywhere where the huawei only works with NFC. Overall, its nice to have but not that big of a deal
The p30 pro doesnt have a headphone jack. I dont use it very often so when I do, I don't mind using an adapter
In terms of idle drain with SIM removed and only on WIFI, I didnt find much difference between the samsung and huawei. However with the SIM inserted, I found the samsung lasted significantly longer (10-20%). I found the P30 pro lasted a good 20%-30% or so longer than the P30. Now it was hard to make sure they were configured exactly the same but they all lasted at least two days.
I travel alot and when I'm flying I like to record tracks. The samsungs recorded a better accuracy than the Huawei. However, when I reviewed the tracks from the actual path, I found they were about the same. All were better than my old phone
Camera: I found that the P30 pro's OIS was useful at night as it was able to get a focused photo much more easily than the P30. However, if I took my time and held very still, the two were about the same. P30 pro was still able to be brighter. Unless it was super dark, I found the "photo" mode more useful than "night" mode as I didnt have to wait as long. Night mode was far better on the Huawei vs Samsung though. Now Huawei will make dark photos look like they are taken during the day vs Samsung which look more like the actual scenario. The saumsung phones are supposed to have OIS, but I found them just as blurry as the P30.
During the day, I felt they were all about equal here. I thought the samsung photos were a little sharper and better depth. Overall, I think the Samsung photos "look" better but they all look good. It also has a wider wide angle lens which can be useful in tight areas. When using Super Macro mode, on the P30 you can use any camera. On the P30 pro, you can't use the 5X. Therefore, you can get the P30 much closer with its 3X. Speaking of zoom, I found the 3X more useful than the 5X in typical situations
The samsung display is much better than the Huawei. With the higher resolution, its much clearer. Also, its capable of getting much dimmer (for example on the always on screen).
I know the p30 doesnt have wireless charging but I never use it so it doesnt matter
Overall, I think I prefer Huawei over Samsung mainly for the better night performance. There are lots of conditions where your lighting might not be so great so its good to have that option. Between the P30 pro and P30, I prefer the P30 due to its size and more useful zoom. However, not having OIS is a big deal so I might try to live with the P30 pro.
considering the locked bootloader situation I'd personally avoid huawei but it might not be a factor for you
huawei have been a really bad experience for me personally
Nite bed comfort
I'm undecided between a P30 Pro and an S10 Plus,
mainly for the comfort of the display: they say the Samsung is better.
I tried a P30 Pro for a while and in low light (in the evening in bed, the moment when I use it the most) after a while my eyes get tired, more than my old Xperia Z3.
From this point of view, can Samsung be better?
Even the colors of the display seem a little tending to red on Huawei, possible?
Do you think they are paranoid and that the display of the Huawei is not so exaggeratedly more tiring than the S10?
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So as the title goes are you on the fence in your decision to buy the Mate 20 Pro?
Let's see if I can help in anyway with my honest review and thoughts about it.
Display: So this is a tense subject as you have probably read already that it has some issues (for some). Now I have a BOE display and not LG however both are being reported with the Green Hulk effect, I'm glad and extremely happy this is not an issue for me. The display is crisp and vibrant with fantastic details, as you would expect, the clarity is on point to. However perhaps this is a concern, I wouldn't worry and would purchase regardless, buy that's just me, maybe for you though this might be a turn off? I think this shouldn't stand in your way, maybe hold off for a couple of more weeks?
Performance: The Mate 20 Pro is absolutely fantastic with the Kirin 980, everything is extremely snappy and gets the job done, the only slight negative is ram management, this could be and hopefully will be improved, but this chip is just so so good, probably better then the Snapdragon 845. There are no stutters or freezes and all I can say is will a little more refined tuning through updates, it will only get better.
Camera: Now I haven't tested this enough yet, only had my Mate 20 Pro for a week or so, but from the images I have taken it performs great. AI does a great job (this can be turned off) if you don't like . The camera UI is nicely laid out and presentable, if you have a tripod you'll be able to get some nice long exposure shots, light trails ect and i love the simplicity in being able to do this with the Mate 20 (I also had the P20 Pro) and the camera on that was superb, this takes it to a nice new level with the addition of a wide angle lens. Is it the perfect camera? This is subjective as each eyes see different things, but it's a top performer thats for sure.
Battery: Well what can be said here is it's absolutely on point and even if your a heavy user like me, the Mate 20 Pro will very very easily get you through the day, and if your extreme and it doesn't quite, then the 40w charger has your back, it charges very very quickly.
Build & Design: This is always subjective as some like curved displays others not so much. The curve I like, still prefer a flat display if I'm completely honest, however it's a Evolved Samsung , nice and slim, solid, and feels great in hand, although the Twilight (absolutely stunning) is a bit slippery lol but I have no complaints with the design despite it having a resemblance to Samsung.
Features: This has all the bells and whistles as you'd expect , ip68, wireless charging, even reverse (although this is a gimmick) even retains the forgotten ir blaster (how about that) yes headphone jack is not present, but at least a dongle was included (cough cough Apple). Face ID works very well even in dark environments, UD Scanner, despite what YouTubers have said, it's more accurate and faster than my Note 9.
So Should you buy it?
Absolutely yes now there are a few other negatives that I will throw in, updates are well painfully slow, but we do get them eventually, and it has Android 9 out of the box, yes with EMUI, but that had improved, although still not the best, if you want to root and rom, then at this point forget about it, Huawei has bolted that door.
I honestly love the Mate 20 Pro, I still think as the best all round device is the Note 9, I am taking great joy in using the Mate 20 Pro, and it outshines the Note in many areas, Camera & Battery, but the Note is the complete package, with my Huawei a close second .
Yes I would recommend the Mate 20 Pro, so if your on the fence heck 14 day trial, don't like return, but I'm sure you will.
Hope this helps a little.....:good:
Agreed, my gestures animations are not smooth at all, but never saw them smooth on any phone, probably one of my apps causing it.
This phone potential is untapped, it needs software refinement to shine like it made to be, nonetheless it's the only high end phone i can recommend without hesitation.
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Agreed, my gestures animations are not smooth at all, but never saw them smooth on any phone, probably one of my apps causing it.
This phone potential is untapped, it needs software refinement to shine like it made to be, nonetheless it's the only high end phone i can recommend without hesitation.
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Weirdly I really think that the animations are pretty smooth on my Mate 20 pro, have you turned the animation speed to 0.5x in developer options?
Yeah doesn't help much, same thing was with mate 9 and Samsung.
It's slightly better when using navigation keys
I've got both at the moment. But one has to go.
So I'm a bit torn between which is the better option, what do you guys think?
On the one hand, the Pixel:
- No LED
- No Wifi calling (certainly not for Three UK)
- 'Pixel' navigation (I'm just not used to it, I know traditional can be re-enabled via ADB - but can you just use a new launcher?)
- No facial recognition (This feature is particularly good on the Mate 20 Pro)
- Smaller battery
- Single camera (but I'm not sure this is an issue)
- No Pro camera options
- Bigger notch than the Mate 20 pro
However:
- Clean Android
- gets quickest updates
- No stupid background killing processes - this in particular is annoying and takes some configuration to get things working right on the Mate 20 Pro
- Excellent night camera
- Good fingerprint sensor. It's crap on the Mate 20 Pro.
- It doesn't have the curved edges like the Mate 20 Pro - but I'm not sure I even like them.
SD845 vs Kirin 980.
Anything else I'm missing? Any thoughts or opinions?
i really really hate emui, and love stock android , butt the hardware on the mate 20 is just kicking some p3 xl ass.......
I don't like the design of the Pixel, the notch is unnecessarily deep, what's going on with the weird glass design on the back and I don't like rear fingerprint readers.
The night mode on the M20P is fine for me and I've always a phone with a decent macro mode.
Yes there are some niggles with the M20P but I'm using a different launcher and fluid gestures and am happy with how I've got it set up.
It all depends on what you value the most.
On paper they're pretty equal in terms of camera performance.
I like my phones to last tho, I can charge this phone and not charge it for 2 days sometimes 3 (if it's light use). Yes, emui is hated by many, I just use nova launcher, debloated this phone with adb and now it's the best phone I've ever owned.
The battery life and camera are fantastic, reverse wireless charge saved a few mates of mine and if you're running low on juice you just charge it for about 15 minutes to half an hour and you got juice for a day.
Also, face unlock works like a charm for me.
The notch doesn't bother me, I don't even notice it most of the times.
Performance wise there isn't a faster phone atm, it's pretty much as fast as the op6t.
The only true difference would be the android updates, but coming from a mate 9 which still gets its security updates I wouldn't stress about it that much.
My first phone mate9 4+32, battery storage is not enough to change the Honor 10, the National Day was stolen, support for a month and other mate20pro. I don't know much about other brands, so this post will not be discussed.
Before I bought it, I was still hesitant to be choose a magic or a Honor edition. After all, the price difference was more than a little, and the two mobile phones had their own advantages. After the release of the foreign country, I went to the experience store and touched it, and suddenly fell. I have to say that the Honor user played mate20pro is without any resistance, the whole devices feel, weight, integrity and technology sense are impeccable, a feeling of elegant. At that time, I booked the Jade green pro 8+256 UD directly in the experience store. I didn’t have any plans to buy the 6+128 version. It’s worth more than a thousand teeth.
At that time, the most controversial Arrangement lens was actually not ugly, and even had some good-looking (maybe my aesthetic was raped). The high recognition can be said to be an advantage, and a ball can be recognized.
In terms of appearance, everyone knows the combination of Samsung and Apple. I have been tangled for a long time, but I am finally get used to it. The structured light is really convenient. not to mention the unlocking. Pro-test grimace tongue can be used on the flat screen, the mask can not be solved, and the nose must be leaked at least. On the back, the back is very good, and the reason for the reservation is not hesitant because of the back panel, the texture of the small lines is too comfortable. Huawei's previous mate and p series can be described as ugly, unlike the p20 youth color, mate20 is stable and beautiful, The curvature of the frame in the side curved screen is particularly cool and feels better than my Samsung. After using it for so long, I still haven’t looked tired, and I am very satisfied with the overall appearance (except for Norch).
In terms of battery life, the factory version is particularly good, and it is used heavily for one and a half days. The current 176 version is also good, second only to the factory version. But the middle version update is too bad, you have to charge it in one day. Charging is also first-class, 40w gets me flying, you plug in, do something, it is full . It is estimated that it is not possible to return to the 18w charge. When the new machine is charged, there is still some high temp. The upper right corner is a little hot. It is estimated to be 50 degrees. The power adapter is also very hot. I am worried that it is not a problem device. The result will be fine. It is estimated that Huawei’s theory of metaphysics . Now, no matter whether it is used or charged, there has never been a case of overheating. It is estimated that the hottest time is only 40 degrees, and winter can't warm up.
In terms of performance, the 980 is really strong. I haven’t met stuck in two months, and it even goes a bit more faster. krin980 is really worthy.
I too have both (and a Note 9) and there are lots of pros and cons on both sides for me though being able to expand the storage on the Mate is the clincher, 128gb on the 3XL is just about enough but does require some managing, on the Mate or any other phone with expandable storage it is a non-issue.
Having opted for a Mate 20 Pro (presumably because of things like battery life, cameras and in-screen fingerprint reader) and now that we're entering the 2019 release cycle (Galaxy 10's incoming, P30 Pro not too far away) what features do you want in your next phone?
- Hole punch camera or slider, or are you happy with a notch for proper facial recognition?
- An ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader?
- Better rear cameras with higher optical zoom?
- Drop the curved screen?
I'm talking about physical features rather than software related things like EMUI & locked bootloaders but, on that note, would you go for another Huawei knowing what you do about the M20Pro?
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Having opted for a Mate 20 Pro (presumably because of things like battery life, cameras and in-screen fingerprint reader) and now that we're entering the 2019 release cycle (Galaxy 10's incoming, P30 Pro not too far away) what features do you want in your next phone?
- Hole punch camera or slider, or are you happy with a notch for proper facial recognition?
- An ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader?
- Better rear cameras with higher optical zoom?
- Drop the curved screen?
I'm talking about physical features rather than software related things like EMUI & locked bootloaders but, on that note, would you go for another Huawei knowing what you do about the M20Pro?
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Better screen with no hw bugs
Faster on screen fingerprint reader
Better emui on huawei case
I think thats all, every spec in a smartphone nowsdays is more than enough. The only thing left is to take all of it and do it right with quality standards.
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I'd like to see dual monitor support via HDMI when connected to EMUI desktop mode. (1920x1080)+(1920x1080)=3840x1080.
Also, if the EMUI desktop mode could permit direct SMS text messaging via desktop mode similar to that of Samsung DEX mode.
Ubuntu Linux on Huawei EMUI
I would like to see flagship phone that is less fragile. If phone like M20pro have charger this fast so wireless charging is not a necessity, at least give me an option for aluminium back. Also a phone with less or no compromises with under 1k price. I personally don't care about gimmicks like s pen or reverse charging etc. IR blaster is cool, I use it all the time. That's why I chose M20pro vs Note9.
My next purchase will be very carefully considered and almost certainly not a Huawei. Mainly because I have faced touchscreen lag on the P20 pro and now the Mate 20 Pro. Also the P20 Pro monochrome sensor made night mode much much better than the Mate 20 Pro so I think Huawei have lost their advantage. I used to do pitch black or very low light pin sharp night mode shots on the P20 pro, but in exactly the same scenario on the Mate 20 pro, you have camera shake which ruins the shot.
As for my next phone:
High touch screen response / sensitivity / low ms.
4-5,000 mah battery with battery life to match (12hrs SOT)
Flat screen (Screen protector friendly)
Pin sharp selfie camera (such as Pixel or One plus)
3D Face unlock
No pinhole selfie camera
Excellent video recording (stereo and handles concert scenarios)
Excellent low light camera, and fast shutter speed for indoor / pets etc (ala Pixel 2)
Powerful, loud stereo Dolby atmos speakers.
As I go along I feel this is never going to happen. This above is a mix of the Razer phone 2 and the Mate 20 Pro.
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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I saw you reposted your question somewhere else, so I'm reposting mine answer too
Well, mate. Simple answer to your question would be: probably yes. I'll explain this "probably" bit later
At first, I've been using stock MIUI ROM only for one week. I've instantly applied for unlocking bootloader in order to flash Xiaomi.eu, which is a debloated version of MIUI with some improvements. I think it improves an overall performance a little bit. There are some other custom ROMs available for tucana, based on AOSP, but I prefer to stay with MIUI at the moment.
1) Camera: It's really good, but it could be even better with better SoC In my opinion, it is bit too weak at least for the huge main lens. Sometimes it lags, but it's not absolutely bad though. The pics quality is really good. Especially huge main lens gives bright, clear photos, it shines most in the night/low light scenarios. Even better with GCam. OIS is an excellent addon. Tele lenses are good enough, wide angle as well. Macro lens is only 2mpx and it is useful for me only when I need to take a photo of a very close object (1-2 cm), but quality is rather poor. But surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
Just one thing: main lens isn't very good for macro shots. Because of its size, it can blur edges of the objects. But for landscapes and people it's just perfect.
There is a PRO mode with EV correction, exposure time, focus and white balance manual sliders. You can get additional features like long exposure, cloninig and stickers with a Magisk module (they are present on stock in Mi Note 10 pro).
Overall, I would give 8 out of 10 as for camera experience.
2) Storage: 128GB is more than enough for me. My previous device was Redmi Note 4 with 32GB plus 16BG on SD card and I managed as well. If you keep your device reasonably clean, I dont think there is much to worry. I sync my photos with Google Photos, so I can delete them from storage later. The only minor inconvenience is that when I want to/have to make factory reset (granted, most people dont do it often ), I have to copy files from internal storage to USB rather than keep them on SD card. But I can live with that.
3) Skin: I've always liked MIUI, so I'm satisfied. Stock features are ok, although I always like to customize my device as much as possible, so I root it and use Xposed Framework. But this is mainly matter of personal preferences. MIUI is heavy skin though, so it can explain occasional lags and little worse battery life than you could expect from >5000mAh battery. It's not absolutely bad though, I can easily use the phone more than one day with moderate usage (I don't play games).
I didn't notice much heating during usage, although as I mentioned, I'm not a gamer It heats a bit only when turbo charging, but it's not unusual.
3) AMOLED screen: Perfect for me. Nothing to complain about. Some people doesn't like rounded edges, I don't mind. Quality is excellent. OLED gives inifinite contrast, so black is totally black (because unused pixels are just turned off). Highest brightness is high enought to see everything even in sunlight (this is the biggest advantage over LCD). And you can use Always-on Display - I like this feature a lot.
4) Software: With stock ROM, as far as I know, updates are not that rare, but not very frequent too. The phone just got official Android 11 and since it started with A9, it's probably last major update (but probably will be getting new MIUI longer). I use weekly beta and I have A11 for some time already Actually there is one annoyance with MIUI based on A11: permissions and restrictions. You have to manually grant almost all permissions and with those more sensitive, you have to wait 10 seconds until the system lets you to grant it. It drives me crazy but fortunately, you have to do it only once Generally, MIUI A11 performes just ok.
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
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So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
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My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
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If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
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Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
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It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
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Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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...surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
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Thanks for the tip, that was a revelation!
I've had the Mi Note 10 for just over a year, and I'd buy it again. The stock camera sometimes over-processes/saturates greens in landscapes, but it's not a deal-breaker. The portrait mode can produce some excellent pics. I've occasionally tried Gcam mods, but the stock camera is good enough most of the time.
Lord Sithek said:
Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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The more I look at the pics the Mi Note 10 can take, the more I'm set to it.
I was looking at the Mi 10T too.
I may buy it or the Mi Note 10 for the same price right now.
Speaking for myself, the Mi 10T sports a number of features that I don't find useful or even valuable, but I'd have to pay for nonetheless.
5G support is a pink invisible unicorn in my Country, at least for a good while. 4G devices are perfect.
The high Hz panel is a battery drain I don't need. You want 144 Hz? The chip must compose and present each. Talking of a... *mumbling* some quick math... 60:100=144:x ... x=144*100/60 ... x=240%... umm, talking of a +140% workload increase over a 60 Hz panel. No thanks!
The SoC is also powerful. Perhaps too much? My P9 runs 4x @ 2.5 and 4x @ 1.8 GHz cores. I can tell you it drains the battery quickly. I value more a slower chip that won't drink energy like beer.
Then there's the IPS vs. AMOLED thing... I've been living with IPS for the last 4.5 years and I appreciate it, but in total darkness the grey fog where black should be is gonna make you wish you chose differently.
Last, but not least, I have no samples to compare the Cameras against other devices. I'm sure that the Camera department has been shrunk to contain the production costs. It also lacks OIS, which I want this time around
As for the Lite versions... they were all in my radar. But none has OIS, and their photos always show artifacts from lot of Post-Processing (PP) to enhance the details. Sure, every phone does PP, but there's a reason if the more expensive devices don't need as much PP as the midrangers.
Camera wise, the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 is something! It's also modern and doesn't cost me a fortune
What I'm not thrilled about are the panel's rounded edges. Will get used to 'em, but I don't dig the change.
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Spoiler: 33 Hours Later (a true story)...
I'll just edit this in, hoping it's not against forum rules.
This afternoon I went to buy the smartphone. I could hardly believe to have found it so close to home (6 km) and at such a low price (349 €). And it was not from some minuscule shop nobody heard of, but in a Shopping Center and from none other than... um, I'm not sure I can name them.
(Open...
But I can reveal that it's a 2-words name, each word starting with M and each 5 characters long.
In their ads a capital red M character is also the omnipresent 3D object appearing in place of whatever the advertized product is.
Funny how they use their original name in all Europe, but in my Country alone they operate under a different name (always starting with M. Also, the ads copy the same graphics as the german originals).
... closed)
Anyway...
When I go at the counter, the surprises begin. They have 6 units total available and each box is NOT sealed, each phone has a protective film applied ALREADY, and there's a hidden EXTRA cost of 24 € for the "service", in addition to the price stated online.
I couldn't believe my ears as the clerk explained this stuff.
I asked if the phones were returned products or even refurbished, for none of this was explained or hinted at, online.
Heed his words: he didn't say they were "new" or "not refurbished", he said they were "not damaged products"!
Yeah, right...
I said this to him: "You can't prove your claim since the boxes are open. Keep your pre-applied protective films. For 350 euros I buy a sealed box covered by full warranty. You have one ready now, or I go away".
He mumbled: "I'm sorry" while turning at his monitor -- couldn't sustain my stare.
I didn't buy online to reserve the merchandise.
I could do so up until midnight yesterday, but waited too much and lost the opportunity (for reason unknown the merchandise went Unavailable for the time being).
Lady Luck herself made me miss the deal -- thank you thank you thank you!
Had I bought online, now it'd be trouble because... 1) I wouldn't get my money back (they'd give me a time-limited voucher valid in their shops only, but they got nothing I want) and... 2) to retrieve my merchandise at the counter I'd be charged the hidden 24 € -- else I wouldn't walk away with my property. Believe, it's all true!
I wonder what would have been sent me if I purchased online and chose to have it delivered home, and shudder at the idea of receiving a refurbished unit sold for pristine.
This thought is further strengthened by the customer reviews found on the website. Two reviews only, the last one from December 2020 saying that he "likes the Mi Note 10 but is disappointed by the lame touch display and fingerprint sensor".
From all accounts the Mi Note 10 doesn't mount lame hardware. I believe that this guy was sold a refurbished unit and he doesn't suspect it. He also praised the low price of the Mi Note 10. Sounds like he got a device from the lot I was presented today.
This is plain Commercial Misbehavior
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In the end I bought the smartphone, at another shop, for another price.
I opted to have it delivered at the very shop, because it's near home and I'd go retrieve it myself.
Why use a courier when the shop is a mere 3 km from home -- right?
The package will arrive in two days from now, that is: the coming Monday... however I won't be able to retrieve it because starting with Monday we're in Lockdown and all shops will be closed. Until March 29th.
Covid sucks in every way
I smashed up my 9 pro so while its off for repair i got a nord 2 and im not joking this phone is so much better. the dimensions are better, the 9 pro is too long and skinny. the flat display is 100x better, i told myself i would never get a curved display against after my samsung s6 edge but reviewers convinced me by saying the curves on the 9 pro where subtle, flat is so much better and curved displays shouldnt exist. it has the same battery capacity and charging speed. it has a 90hz refresh rate which to me is an upgrade as well it means less battery wasted and my 9 pro felt extremely stuttery because of its adaptive refresh rate each update is different, last update chrome was a stuttery disgrace. it has the same haptics, the same main sensor as far as i know but on that note i was never impressed with the 9 pro's camera, i took some pictures in pro mode which is supposed to have hasselblad colours 10.0.0.0.1 192.168.1.254 and ive never seen grass look so fake and luminous green in my life. i took 1 indoor picture of my dog on the nord 2 and im convinced the 9 pro could have never taken such a picture, the photo processing seems way improved.
i cant fathom how this is 1/3rd of the price pretty much. i wont be getting a flagship oneplus again.
I'm sick of OPN2 , lack of updates for long , long time , poor technical support , awful MTK optimisation for sites and apks . Meantime I bought also Samsung A52s , totally disappointed again ... It has some hybrid hardware to minimize the manufacturer costs but a great support . Battery also better but.... I didn't liked both at all so for a couple weeks I bought Nothing Phone .
Nothing compares with it !
It's awesome !!!