Looking at the speculation about the upcoming Galaxy S11, I'm wondering whether to cancel my preorder, hold on to Note 8, and wait for the Note 11.
For me, coming from the Note 8 to the Note 10 is quite an upgrade, but it's been spoiled by the negativity surrounding it.
It's possible that next years Note 11 will have a higher screen refresh, a new camera with 10x zoom, 5G on the SOC and hopefully no punch hole.
I know that the next big thing is always around the corner, but has the furore surrounding this years Note left a slightly bitter taste for you, as it has me?
Anyone else facing this dilemma,
I have a Note 8 and I'm getting the Note 10. Plus. It's a big upgrade from the 8. I don't care what others think. I like the phone and I'm getting it and can't wait.
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I have a Note 8 and I'm getting the Note 10. Plus. It's a big upgrade from the 8. I don't care what others think. I like the phone and I'm getting it and can't wait.
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Agree with you. I too have an N8 and N10 plus is a pretty decent upgrade.
Upgrading or not is an individual's choice and one may or may not have many reasons to upgrade or leave N10. I had decided not to upgrade from N8 and was waiting from Mate 3 Pro, but then i was in a Mall shopping & i crossed a Samsung Cafe and thought of checking the demo unit of N10 & i fell in love with its overall beauty and pre-booked it.
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I have a Note 8 and I'm getting the Note 10. Plus. It's a big upgrade from the 8. I don't care what others think. I like the phone and I'm getting it and can't wait.
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I tend to agree with you, for me, these controversies started with the pre release leaks that over hyped what to expect.
People were talking about 90hz screens, 10x zoom on 48 megapixel sensors, sound on display and free wireless buds.
It's then becomes a bit galling when none of it materialises on the Note, but yet competitors and even some Samsung non flagships are touted as getting these features.
What makes it worse is that Samsung developed these technologies and then produces them for it's competitors, but omits them on what's meant to be it's marquee device.
I have cancelled mine as it is not good enough to justify an upgrade from Note 9. I will have a look at what Huawei and Google have to say and decide thereon... In the meanwhile I do respect everyone' s opinion and decision...
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I have cancelled mine as it is not good enough to justify an upgrade from Note 9. I will have a look at what Huawei and Google have to say and decide thereon... In the meanwhile I do respect everyone' s opinion and decision...
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My daughter has a Note 9, which I was in two minds of getting for her at the time, since I didn't consider it much of an upgrade from the 8.
I totally understand your stance, and in this period that we've entered of only incremental upgrades, the 'Note' upgrade cycle will for most people be biannual.
Duh.................................................nah. Not cancelling my preorder, there will always be a bigger and better phone right around the corner. I did get free wireless buds and a 10,000 mAh Portable Battery. Not as much as in the past but if you don't want it.....................................just wait.
I won't cancel mine now cause for a decent amount off when ordering from Very. I did expect possibly to get wireless earbuds but I think that was just cause I was hoping. Going from the note 8 also I very happy with my choice so far. Yeah I used my headphone jack before but I'll adapt as we all will have too soon
Don't base your decision on Note 11 rumours. Any Note 11 spec is just speculation and fantasy. How many years did people speculate things like a foldable, or in screen thumbprint reader before anything was released with those?
Will the Note 11 be better than the Note 10? Hopefully they get better with each version. The real question is are you ready to upgrade your Note 8? If so get the 10, if not, see what comes out next year.
Upgrading from the S9+. I figure it'll be a great update since it's a generation back. Plus, I like larger phones and the pen will come in handy. Also, I already use wireless buds at the gym, so the lack of a headphone jack is not a deal-breaker for me.
this 10x optical zoom?
what's the zoom on the note 10+ ?
I have the note 9 and I plan to upgrade. Reason is the trade in each year makes it worth it. I only spent 300 on my note 9 when I traded in my note 8 and the 10+ will only cost me 500 (300 when you factor in the accessories they give you). By the time the note 11 comes out I'm sure Samsung will give you a trade in allowance just like they did for the 10.
Hellz no.
I'm going from an S10 plus and Note 9 to a Note 10 plus.
I will so get the S11 and the Note 11 lol.
I've been doing this pretty much since the S3 with few exceptions along the way.
I also get a new google device yearly as well since the galaxy nexus other than the 1st gen pixel and pixel 3 xl (because they both were terrible).
No sense waiting...get what you want now then just do it again once the next device drops that you like.
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I have the note 9 and I plan to upgrade. Reason is the trade in each year makes it worth it. I only spent 300 on my note 9 when I traded in my note 8 and the 10+ will only cost me 500 (300 when you factor in the accessories they give you). By the time the note 11 comes out I'm sure Samsung will give you a trade in allowance just like they did for the 10.
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Exactly. Doesn't make sense to wait. There's a huge difference between the 9 and the 10+, let alone the 8! I'm paying 340 for mine with the trade-in, barring they don't deny the hairline cracks in the back (not effecting the camera or screen). :angel:
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this 10x optical zoom?
what's the zoom on the note 10+ ?
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I think it's 2x?
I once was that guy. Upgraded my phone every year.. until the Note 7 incident. Which to me was over blown also.. That's when we were downgraded to the S7. Hated that phone and thought I will be a note user for life. After I got the Note 8 and saw the note 9. I felt it wasn't worth the upgrade. So yes now I will be upgrading on even numbers. Odd numbers will get the best new features. And even numbers we get a little extra icing on our cake. I still don't see what all this disappointment is about this phone. I'm sorry but we have gotten spoiled about having all these great innovations every 6 months. I will say this. Hell you could have an Iphone.
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I still don't see what all this disappointment is about this phone.
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I think most of the noise and disappointment could have been avoided if Samsung named the models differently. The Note10+ is really what Note users expect in a Note phone. If they would have called it the Note 10 and the smaller one the Note 10e I don't think there would be as many negative comments about this release.
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I think most of the noise and disappointment could have been avoided if Samsung named the models differently. The Note10+ is really what Note users expect in a Note phone. If they would have called it the Note 10 and the smaller one the Note 10e I don't think there would be as many negative comments about this release.
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Agree. My daughter got the S10 and the wife got the S10e, which is actually the S10 with a flat screen and slightly lower specs which is essentially what the Note 10 is except for the flat screen.
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I once was that guy. Upgraded my phone every year.. until the Note 7 incident. Which to me was over blown also.. That's when we were downgraded to the S7. Hated that phone and thought I will be a note user for life. After I got the Note 8 and saw the note 9. I felt it wasn't worth the upgrade. So yes now I will be upgrading on even numbers. Odd numbers will get the best new features. And even numbers we get a little extra icing on our cake. I still don't see what all this disappointment is about this phone. I'm sorry but we have gotten spoiled about having all these great innovations every 6 months. I will say this. Hell you could have an Iphone.
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That's exactly what happened to me and where I stand. I also didn't get the Note 9 as I didn't see it as much of a worth while upgrade from the Note 8. But the Note 10+ is a different story and is why I'm getting it. I honestly don't care about the headphone jack as I rarely use it. My only thing is the notification light, but even then I am normally paired to my S3 Frontier so I also don't see that as much of an issue either. It wasn't even until I went into a T-Mobile store and saw and interacted with the demo unit that I was sold on getting the phone and also what sold me on not getting it in the aura glow color.
I have been having this disease of buying every new Samsung flagship since S- I9000. I said YES to my regular retailer who called me up for a preorder.
I got the chance to use the the non-retail N10+ for a day recently. Completely based on my own tastes, I'm finding this Note 10+, for the first time ever on a Galaxy Note , not adequately upgraded enough from its immediate "S" predecessor that I own, even though it's been upgraded in few other ways.
In short, I might end up cancelling it.Even if I buy after all, I will not be using it more than 3 months from now, as I am pretty sure I will be buying what Google has for us anyways on 1st release to replace daily driver - thriving to use ideas based on innovation that should actually work, that I'm not seeing in a long time.
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Hi Guys, currently I have the Note 2. do you recommend taking the Jump to the Note 3 or waiting for the new stuff?. If so, what advantages do I have?
Thanks..
if money is not a problem only then otherwise it's a no no,as I myself have used both and I think there is no major difference that will open your mouth( like from note to note 2)
my advice wait until next August maximum, as in note 3 there is not a groundbreaking tech ( same octa, same 3 th etc etc) ,now next year the tech to own will be OLED CURVED DISPLAY ( like in galaxy round or LG g flex ,but they are nwe so they're mostly like prototypes ) and that my friend ,will be Chuck Norris like thing,
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Hi Guys, currently I have the Note 2. do you recommend taking the Jump to the Note 3 or waiting for the new stuff?. If so, what advantages do I have?
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No stay on the note 2.. As an addition I only say this cause of the Knox I The note 3.. If you are going to run stock then it doesn't matter and in that cause I would say yes. . Much faster better camera ability to move apps to sd slightly bigger screen.. But Knox is a real pain if you want to route and do things .
I have both and thought that the Note 3 was a waste of money. I no longer feel at way. I think the Note three is better in everyway. Looks good, feels good, Scover is very helpful. The software is better. The only thing I miss is text flow in the browser.
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i think it's not a leap like note to note 2. note 2 to note 3 is like a large step. it's nice. i was going to wait for the other rumored note 3's like flex display and active versions but I can't help it. i had to get it. the specs and full hd display was too alluring.
I listed the pros and cons here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2489871
Not worth the jump to me. Played with a Note 3 extensively and came away not so impressed compared to the Note 2. Would rather just wait for whatever official update is due the Note 2 (well the Sprint version) that brings to it some parity in terms of software features.
I find it interesting that so many people that say that the Note 3 is not worth the upgrade and won't do it are hanging around in a Note 3 forum... just saying.. LOL
I work at a company that has over 600 Note 2's issued to employees. In my opinion, the Note 3 is a good step above the Note 2. Maybe the Note 2 will get a software upgrade, but the hardware will not change. The Note 3 is faster, has more RAM, larger storage options, larger, higher resolution screen, etc.
If you're always waiting for the next best phone, you'll never get one. In today's world, technology is obsolete the day after it is delivered. That said, I recommend that you get your hands on a Note 3 at the Sprint store and compare how it performs to your current phone and make an educated decision based on your personal preferences.
Like most I'm incline to keep the Note 2. agree with the last post but in a couple of months something better may come up. don't get me wrong, I'm watching Swappa very close to see if there is a good price on a Note 3 but in the mean time I'm staying put....
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Like most I'm incline to keep the Note 2. agree with the last post but in a couple of months something better may come up. don't get me wrong, I'm watching Swappa very close to see if there is a good price on a Note 3 but in the mean time I'm staying put....
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pal like 1ghz this was a boom in 2010(galaxy s)
then dual core was a another blast in 2011( LG 2x)
then quad core ( LG 4x)
this year nothing is like New except the camera in lumia 1020 and other android phones just a little bit more ram a little bit processor (2.5 etc) and more screen and resolution there is nothing groundbreaking tech this year at all that stands apart( hmmm LG g2 rear buttons may be a exception)
BUT NEXT YEAR 2014 it's the time of oleds and CURVED DISPLAYs baby,and that my friend will be a awesome thing to have...
if you have money go note 3 but if you have wise money wait for note 4
(talking specifically about android and note series may have left something to mention like finger scanner in i5s)
I am curious to see what you guys are going to do now that the Note 7 is officially gone. I am hopeful that it will be back in some shape or form.
I was going to get the the Note 7 as soon as it became available, but now I am on the market for a new phone.
So, I am curious... what are you going to do? Are you jumping ship? If so, which one? I honestly do not find ANY phone to get in lieu of the Note 7. Those that come close fall short of the Micro SD Card.
Already swapped out for a S7 Edge silver its good so far reason is i have the Gear VR ,256 gb sd card and a gear fit 2....plus the LG V20 isnt due untill the 28 and pre orders for sprint start on the 21 just could not risk my family. Im really sad but hey we are safe!
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Already swapped out for a S7 Edge silver its good so far reason is i have the Gear VR ,256 gb sd card and a gear fit 2....plus the LG V20 isnt due untill the 28 and pre orders for sprint start on the 21 just could not risk my family. Im really sad but hey we are safe!
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Oh nice! I didn't know about the LG V20. I looked at the specs, and it's not bad. It has the expandable memory, so that's a plus for me.
My only issue with the S7 is that it's too small.
Note 8...
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Bought a new dual SIM Note 5 to keep me going until the return of the Note super phone. I am hoping that Samsung make available the Note 7 features (software) in the next release for the Note 5.
This would be better as a poll.....
Personally I'm just buying a Oneplus3 as if I only keep it for a month or 3, until either the V20 is available or the S8 plus includes a pen (heres hoping), I'll only lose around £50. If I bought something more expensive my loss becomes greater. Oneplus has quite a solid following so reselling will be easy. Also I'm not jumping straight into pre orders again after this. 30 days after launch is now my starting point as I reckon I've lost over £150 on accessories due to samsung mucking this up.
BTW is anyone returning the gift VR or hanging onto it? I'm keeping mine for the next note device I get....assuming the model isn't killed off too. That'd be maddening. I hope the note 8 will be similar but it must have a removable battery after this....if indeed the battery was the sole problem (which I doubt).
Please don't throw rocks....
I am torn between s7e and ip7+. I had before the s7e and was happy with it( trade it for n7) but never had an iPhone. So was thinking till next note to try one.
Advise please?
I had the iPhone 7 plus for 2 weeks. Far too large vs note 7, but very speedy and smooth. I just found the Apple ecosystem too closed and the iOS interface too maddening and it felt antiquated to me. I don't like their new bubble like notification center. Stereo speakers were quite tinny. Also, that damn home button controls everything as far as double tapping etc. To each their own I guess.
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The next Note.
Yeap... I played today with a iPhone 7+ in store.
I just can't use it. Just can't. S7edge will be. Plus the gear S3 will come, so...
OnePlus 3. I wanted to be able to use my new gear VR, gear s2, and maybe a gear 360 so I was considering a galaxy s7, but oh well. kinda don't wanna deal with Samsung until maybe the Note 8 or maybe if the S8 is really superb. I heard it'll come with dual cameras so that'd be cool
I will wait for now and keep using the Note 7, not because I am reckless, but it's a calculated risk , for one there is zero cases of battery faults in my region (MENA) for both versions and I disabled fast charging and pay attention if it's warm.
If Samsung forced me to stop it through an update (or kill switch), which I expect to happen in the next few weeks, then it's back to the Note 5.
My big concern is that Samsung still has no idea why the Note 7 keeps catching fire, I am hoping they can find it and pinpoint the issue soon.
I wonder if people really powered down, or returned/exchanged their phones already.
I want to observe the next few days and see if another incident happens.
I added a poll - I meant to say OnePlus 3 instead of One Plus as an option. Unfortunately, I can't change it.
I still have my Note 5 but I love my Note 7 and I will not give it up.
I need 64 Gig and the S7E will not hack it.
The iPhone7+ really sucks.
It is a unique dilemma.
It's hard to believe that Samsung will not address this issue in some way and not just continue along like nothing happened.
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I wonder if people really powered down, or returned/exchanged their phones already.
I want to observe the next few days and see if another incident happens.
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I went in and tried to return it but my carrier would not take it in
Please add option in the poll to return to the Note 5.
Still going with my note 5, though i already planned and savings some money for note 7 (and will buy it on november) But with this fiasco, well.. i think lg v20 will be fine.. maybe huawei mate 9 or saving further to march 2017 for s8..
Waiting for the S7Edge to be sent.
Axon 7
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So since the whole note 7 is going down the drain, what should I switch my note 7 in for? Not apple for sure. Looking for a powerful phone that I can mess around with and learn coding etc stuff and tweak it and it have a good camera and everything else.
I went for S7E... Waited 2 years! 2 years for a NOTE... 5 was not released in EU and now this sh1t with N7... Maybe next year if it's as good as that day phones are I will sell S7E and finally get a NOTE. Fingers crossed!
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I went for S7E... Waited 2 years! 2 years for a NOTE... 5 was not released in EU and now this sh1t with N7... Maybe next year if it's as good as that day phones are I will sell S7E and finally get a NOTE. Fingers crossed!
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Same, I skipped last 2 Notes to get my hands on this one. Have to wait another year. I'm sure Sammy will reward long suffering and loyal Note users
Oneplus 3. Finding it really good apart from the odd quirk with the OS overly
This is a sad day for all phones ?
How to get note 7 ROM on note 5. Maybe I shud stick to note 5 for another yr.. Can't seem to find a better phone!! Note 7 was it... #Sad #EmotionallyScared
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I had finally decided I would look into a Note 5. I also skipped the last 2 notes and held out for the 7. I passed this time again when I saw the Note 5 was still going for $729 at T-Mobile. I know I am being ridiculous in the end. But if I wont pay that much for the S7/S7E and its damn near identical, there is no way I would pay that much for last years model. I know we Note owners are very particular, but I refuse to pay that price for something I don't really want but is just a means to an end.
ZTE Axon 7. It has stereo speakers, dolby, and half the price.
if you do not really really need the stylus, could be a perfect replacement.
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ZTE Axon 7. It has stereo speakers, dolby, and half the price.
if you do not really really need the stylus, could be a perfect replacement.
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Why not one plus 3?
lg v20
Im looking into Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe. Beastmode specs
http://store.asus.com/us/item/201610AM050000052/A47161
Why oh why did THIS phone have to be Windows and not Android: https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/hp/elite-x3.html
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Why oh why did THIS phone have to be Windows and not Android: https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/hp/elite-x3.html
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I said the same thing. Beautiful phone but can't do windows.
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Why not one plus 3?
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this has been discussed 1000000 times already.
because OP3 is FHD (not QHD), does not have QC3.0 and stereo speakers with high-quality audio dac, for example. depends on your needs... you need to make this research on your own, and make the decision.
Sticking with the S6 edge plus until the note 8 I guess. It's the only alternative 5.7" QHD super amoled android phone on the market other than the note 5 that didn't make it to the UK. However, there is the Honor note 8 buts that's a 6.6" which is a little too big for me. Although it does boast a samsung QHD super amoled panel, so it might be worth looking for guys with big hands but in my opinion its not as sleek looking as the note 7 or the s6 edge plus/note 5 for that matter
I highly recommend the S7 Edge.
My friend got the Note 7 on launch and still has it to this day, however he is thinking about switching over - finally, and he chose the S7 Edge.
When it comes to pretty strong phones in terms of the hardware and functionality side of things, either the S7 or S7 Edge if you want something that has the edge features and a bigger screen.
I previously had a Note 4, then went to down to an S5, then up to an S7 Edge. Odd I know.
Comparing a Note 7 and an S7E side by side there's not much difference to be fairly honest.
Wouldn't go with an S6 - Not IP67 certified and no SD Card slot
Alternatively - buy a cheap phone for the time being until something that you really like comes out
TBH, I don't think there's any device on the market at the moment that can replace the Note 7 or Note 5, features/hardware-wise.
The LG v20 somehow tries to, but it's still a vastly inferior product in my opinion (not a bad phone, just not on the Note 7's level)
Samsung Note 5
Found a great deal on Woot for Samsung Galaxy Note 5 32gb. $369.99 Grade A refurbished. This should hold me over until this all gets sorted out next year.
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TBH, I don't think there's any device on the market at the moment that can replace the Note 7 or Note 5, features/hardware-wise.
The LG v20 somehow tries to, but it's still a vastly inferior product in my opinion (not a bad phone, just not on the Note 7's level)
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Im looking into Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe. Beastmode specs
http://store.asus.com/us/item/201610AM050000052/A47161
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i cant find any good reviews on it
I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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Note 8.... Enough said.
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I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I agree 100%, like when I had to 'settle' for an s7edge after owning a Note7, there was no comparison. The Notes have always been superior in my mind...
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I was in the same boat as you. Treated myself to Note8 and never looked back. The display is absolutely breathtaking and that in itself is a unique selling point for me. Even though i have been using the phone for almost 2 weeks now, everytime i look at the display, it takes my breath away. S pen is a hit or a miss for me. It's not the practicalities which stop me from using it. More like, i forget it's there ?.
Also, this is my first Android phone which i will not be rooting. Samsung pay has spoilt me.
I've had s8n, s8+ and note 8...ill take the s pen and 6 gb of ram... My. S8+ always got 5.5 hours screen time, note Rarely over 4.5...note for the win
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I have not looked back since my note 2
ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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This literally has nothing to do with this thread topic. The OP is questioning why reviewers don't seem to value the key differences between the S8+ and the Note8, which is baffling to us Note8 users.
I agree with you, OP. I wouldn't even buy an S8+. For me right now, if I wasn't allowed to buy this phone, it'd be the Pixel XL 2 or LG V30. Only after those being taken away as options would I consider the S8+. This phone having the RAM boost for unparalleled multi-tasking ability and the s-pen are HUGE differences. If the s-pen was a modular add-on for any phone, I'd always buy it and I'd probably pay $200 for the s-pen abilities. So the gap in price between the S8+ and Note 8 is easily worth it to me.
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ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
I dont see the point in comparing apples with oranges? I see these reviews and most of them baffle me.
There are four superb Samsung Galaxy S8 series mobiles, the 8, 8+ the (forgot the bloomin name) and the Note. All four have there market share, all four serve a given need and they are not comparable.
Identical situation with cars. Merc class C will come in coupe, saloon and cabriolet even more types.... One is not better than the other all are good cars and all will serve their niche in the market.
I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series. Not my fault don't shoot the messenger. We own a particular type, brand and style of mobile that's unique in this marker sector. As for comparing the Note 8 with non Android mobiles such as Windows and IOS it becomes even more absurd.
I find the note range in the past few iterations to be fabulous micro PC's. Incredible devices and those who don't make use of that S-pen are truly missing the point. The S-pen is not the cherry on the top its the cake. :good:
Ryland :highfive:
The Note8 is worth the extra money all day. I can not wait to see the Note9?
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I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
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I'm past troubleshooting roms.Samsung has matured to the point where root hurts more than it helps. I'll keep my Samsung pay and stable OS. Tethered to a Frontier,Samsung ecosystem is decades ahead of the competition.
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I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series.
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For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..
I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
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For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..
I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
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I hear you loud and clear. :highfive:
Your last sentence is where we differ. I am unsure how one can write that no mobile is worth 1k€? I know its an awful lot of cash and I know it makes ones eyes water BUT in the case of the Note 8 have you any idea how complex this mobile is to design then produce? The R&D must cost tens of millions alone. Write a list of the accomplishments the Note 8 covers and its incredible.
In way of comparison. in 2000 my Toshiba Satellite 2800-100 lap top cost 1,500.00€. Celeron 650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb sdram ram memory. It weighed about 3kg. In 2000 it was cutting edge technology! 17 years later we have micro engineered a device that is just chalk and cheese in terms of value, cost and tech'.
In 1989 my NEC 11A 'mobile phone' cost £320.00(?) and only made and answered calls and wow was each call expensive. Its relative and accept it or not over the years the technology has developed at break neck pace yet the prices have dropped.
I paid last year for the Note 7 887.00€ (twice, enough on that already). This year I paid 1,020.00€! That's a rise of 133.00€ in 12 months to maintain this cutting edge technology. Does the Note 8 warrant that 133.00€ price increase? I would say without a doubt yes but it is subjective and open to debate. :good:
In theory by 2020 we could be looking to pay for the Note 11 1,500.00€ or more! Goodness knows when this technology will level out and reach a point where totally new technology will reach a plateau? For sure unless the science of battery power changes the next generation of uber mobiles may only function for an hour sans a recharge or be the size of my 1989 NEC 11A!
The Note series started a revolution in the mobile market. I recall when it hit the stores there was hardly a positive review as most reviewers said the device was too big and the trend would never catch on and indeed I DID feel self conscious when using the Note 1 in public. The rest is history.
Now if you truly desire a debate on the value of a device talk Apple. There latest iPhone 8 is a literal disgrace in 'modern technology' and the price -v- value is absurd by any standards. The iPhone 8+ is a better buy but still lags behind the rest yet millions and millions buy them? I suspect just for the brand? That's crazy. :silly:
Ryland
I think that all those videos or articles about questioning if the note 8 is worth the money it costs over the s8 or v30, etc. Are simply based on the fact that the authors of such videos or articles do not really apreciate what a samsung galaxy note is ! I believe that most of us that love the s pen features and "boxy" body style , will NEVER look back to any other s pen less phone
If the PEN means nothing to you.. get the S8+. me .. I LOVE the PEN!
I had a note 1 and 2, and a 4, then got tired of touch jizz, and moved on to other stuff; got a note 8 after being bored with my mate 9 pro, and realizing the nexus 6 was long in the tooth..
As far as 1000 being too much for a phone, I spent many years in the consumer electronics marketplace, and I know the more the technology matures, the lower costs actually go; not that I expect ANY electronics mfg to lower prices on newer models, although if you look at t he prices of 4k tv's now, versus 3 years ago, you will understand what I mean about costs to produce dropping as time goes by; the reason phone mfgs keep raising prices is to keep consumers thinking their phones have newer and greater stuff in them every year, but, believe me, the cost to mfg these phones either stays stable or goes down over time..
anyways, we all decide what we are willing to pay for stuff, so the market forces dictate what mfgs charge; if people stopped buying apple crapple, they would lower their prices too, since they use the lowest cost labor in the world, and their raw materials are nothing to get excited about; they sell the sizzle, NOT the steak!!
I keep hearing about the Spen? If you don't use the Spen get the S8+? I do use my Spen everyday. But if I did not use it I would still choose the Note8. It's just a better all around phone than the S8+.
I was using an s8 before this and I don't use the spen at all..but trust me ..this is an awesome phone and YES very very much worth it
Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
Note 9 is rumoured to have a 4000mah battery. I am not fully satisfied with the battery life of my s9+. The processing speed should be similar as they will use the same SOC. I suggest you to wait till note 9 announcement and then decide.
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Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
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Here is the real question, would you rather have an S Series or a Note Series?
If you prefer the S Series then get the s9+ now. If you prefer the Note series I would wait.
I used to be a big Note fan but when they started making the S Series with curved glass I have stuck with them and skipped the note series.
AS the guy above me said, Memory and CPU / GPU are going to be the same ones as in the S9+ so you will not loose anything there.
So yeah, I was in the same dilemma recently and choose the S9+. The Note has a lot of features that I will never use them. Starting with the S-Pen.
I'd wait even if you decide on the s9+, the S9+ may drop in price once the Note9 comes out and the s9/s9+ isn't the "latest and greatest" anymore.
I bought note 8 and it is too big for me and too heavy. The battery was too small but the pen was fantastic. I decided to sell it for buy s9+ and I'm very happy. The battery isn't fantastic but allows you to get to the end of the day. I recommend you s9 + now, you save money and you have a great phone
thepubguy said:
Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
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As @vishnu8058 mentioned, Im too not so happy with the batterylife . Though its acceptable , i've experienced superior batterylife in several other flagships in recent times. Keeping that in mind alone, I would simply wait till August end if I were you.
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There will be no big jump in processor or such as it would come with the same SD845/Exynos 9810 SoC, but an 8 GB RAM/512 GB storage- region specific Note 9 may show up that may not interest you. Rest deciding factor should be the size, S-pen usability, weight , your taste on samsung environment and ofcourse the price :fingers-crossed:
I did a similar jump but from Note 4 to S8+ last year, contemplating the same dilemma as to whether to wait for Note 8 or not. In the end, I had the Note 3 and Note 4 and with either I almost never used the pen, which is really the main selling point over the S series, so I went with the S8+ (with the S8+ and later the physical screen size difference is much less than it used to be between the S and Note series).
Heres the thing...
I lost my pen from the note 4 soon after i got it...and desided i wasnt going to replace it as i didnt need it. Thats how i feel about note 9. Im not interested about the pen. All im interested in is:
(Not in any order)
Storage
Ram
Chip speed/ gpu
Battery
Screen quality/size
Sound
This is really why i posted...perhaps i should have started out with this email...apologies for the waffle..lol
thepubguy said:
Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
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thepubguy said:
Heres the thing...
I lost my pen from the note 4 soon after i got it...and desided i wasnt going to replace it as i didnt need it. Thats how i feel about note 9. Im not interested about the pen. All im interested in is:
(Not in any order)
Storage
Ram
Chip speed/ gpu
Battery
Screen quality/size
Sound
This is really why i posted...perhaps i should have started out with this email...apologies for the waffle..lol
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It's clear that you don't need a Note device, BUT still the jump in battery is something that I think many people would appreciate, BUT we need to remember what happened last time Samsung tried to put a decent battery size in a Note phone.
Size is another to keep in mind, because Note series are usually bigger, and trust me when I say that the S9+ is already a big phone; yes, is still manageable, but for me S9+ is in the limits of what you can handle or you can carry in your pocket without problems.
Price will also be another factor, because you will be paying a huge difference (~30%) just for an upgrade in battery, because you won't be using all those features that justify the price of the Note 9, and currently you can grab sweet deals with the S9+, and when the Note 9 comes out, price will slightly decrease as well.
Overall S9+ is a really nice phone and as long as you spend time setting it, you would get enough juice for a day.
thepubguy said:
Heres the thing...
I lost my pen from the note 4 soon after i got it...and desided i wasnt going to replace it as i didnt need it. Thats how i feel about note 9. Im not interested about the pen. All im interested in is:
(Not in any order)
Storage
Ram
Chip speed/ gpu
Battery
Screen quality/size
Sound
This is really why i posted...perhaps i should have started out with this email...apologies for the waffle..lol
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All checked. Bruh if high batterytime matters to you thn it's not the GS9+.GN8 is the one I went back from s9+ aftr quite smtime <pen rarely useful to me> but I'm OK with it and excited to upgrade to GN9
Im genuinly tempted to go for the g9s+.
Reasons..
1. Its out now
2. Plenty reviews..seems pretty solid.
3. Been out long enough..plenty good cases / access.
4. Getting cheaper/better deals
5. Gs series seems to now be the flagship phone. Note series just fills in the gaps between iphone/competitors hardware release.
Wot else should be on this list?
Also do u think the upgraded hardware on the n9 with outperform the 9s+?? Is it a new chip or the same..as there will be an upgrade in ram to 8gb..surely thats going to make a huge difference??
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Also do u think the upgraded hardware on the n9 with outperform the 9s+?? Is it a new chip or the same..as there will be an upgrade in ram to 8gb..surely thats going to make a huge difference??
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I think the performance is going to be very similar, if not identical. There almost certainly won't be a hardware upgrade for the Note 9 (excepting the reported RAM increase), the chipset is likely to be the same as the S9 and S9+ (like the Note 8 vs S8/S8+ last year). It seems to be confirmed now that the design of Note 9 won't change much since the Note 8, just like the S9 and S9+ this year, so they should also all look almost the same.
The Galaxy S series have always been Samsung's flagship phone -- the Note series have been considered 'phablets' due to the size of the device, although the line got a little blurred with the 'plus' editions of the S series - S6 Edge+ (Note 5 was the same size), S7 Edge (the Note 7 was 0.2" larger), S8+ (the Note 8 was 0.1" larger) and S9+ (seems like the Note 9 will be 0.2" larger).
I think you need to decide between the following criteria (you've stated the pen isn't important to you so, so that's not on the list):
Price (S9+ will be cheaper, probably by quite a bit, than the Note 9 at launch and for some time after). This is probably going to be the single biggest difference between the two.
Battery (Note 9 is suggested to have a 4000mAh battery vs the 3500mAh on the S9+).
RAM (I don't think the 8GB is going to make a any noticeable difference over 6GB in normal day-to-day use, and bear in mind more RAM means a little bit more power usage - haven't got any hard numbers about that, mind, so I don't know actual practicalities on it).
Storage (It seems the Note 9 may have a 512GB version on top of the others, though it will be pricey).
I am perhaps biased given I have the S9+, but personally I would've gone for the S9+ and gotten the phone now rather than wait - but that's me
Either will be a great choice, and neither will be a mistake - particularly coming from a Note 4.
Any advantage to buying an international sim free compared to a locked phone say with o2 or voda?
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Any advantage to buying an international sim free compared to a locked phone say with o2 or voda?
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Not in terms of specs or anything. All comes down to the deal, and buying an operator-locked phone obviously requires you to unlock if you want to switch operator (something they are obliged to do by law on request, so it's not an issue, just a consideration to make). Usually you end up paying more for the phone over the term of the contract under which you purchase it, but obviously the upside is you pay monthly until the end of the contract and don't have to splurge out the money up front.
I got the galaxy s9+ from samsung store 4 days back and I am absolutely loving it. Got a total discount of 14k INR which is good in my opinion. The battery is hit or miss but aparat from that I am loving every bit of it.
I feel the Note is too large to carry around and with bigger screen size + additional note functions its going to suck the 4000mah battery at same rate as galaxy s9+
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and bear in mind more RAM means a little bit more power usage - haven't got any hard numbers about that, mind, so I don't know actual practicalities on it).
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Fun fact : For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power negligibly in comparison to less RAM of the same type. In fact , more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them. :fingers-crossed: