Alternative 30W Chargers? - ASUS ROG Phone II Accessories

Any recommendations for an alternative 30W wall charger (confirmed working with the Rog Phone 2) that's cheaper than the $50 official charger?

Search this on Amazon. Works great for about $35!
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger, PowerPort Atom III Slim Compact Type-C Charger for iPhone 11/11 Pro / 11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Max, Galaxy, Pixel, MacBook and More

Does any USB PD charger work at the full 30W (provided it can give the right juice)

I believe so. how many volts is it charging at to get that 30 watts? 3amps at 10 volts?
I am not sure if my pixelbook charger is charging at the maximum 30 watts

cypherflowgamingnation said:
Search this on Amazon. Works great for about $35!
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger, PowerPort Atom III Slim Compact Type-C Charger for iPhone 11/11 Pro / 11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Max, Galaxy, Pixel, MacBook and More
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What is the model name?

cypherflowgamingnation said:
Search this on Amazon. Works great for about $35!
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger, PowerPort Atom III Slim Compact Type-C Charger for iPhone 11/11 Pro / 11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Max, Galaxy, Pixel, MacBook and More
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Did you test it?
I tried a Baseus 45W Charger with PD and it couldn't enable Hypercharging.

bluegizmo83 said:
Any recommendations for an alternative 30W wall charger (confirmed working with the Rog Phone 2) that's cheaper than the $50 official charger?
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Honestly, I think only the note 10+ 45w charger can support the hypercharge because the 30w charger is 10v 3a at peak. Soooo most chargers with PD 3.0 scales 5v 3a 9v 3a 12 3a 15v 3a 20v 2a. Note 10+ 45w peaks at 10v 4.5a so most likely that's the only charger you can buy as a alternative.

JazonX said:
Did you test it?
I tried a Baseus 45W Charger with PD and it couldn't enable Hypercharging.
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How do I test hypercharging?

Anyone from india tried the 30w charger?
Rog 2 has just been released officially in india as well. Went out of stock in 10minutes.

Can anyone send me a photo of their phone while HyperCharging with the 30W charger? Like the battery icon and the lock screen?
When I plug in with a crappy charger, you just get the usual lightning bolt on the battery icon. If you plug in to a standard fast charger, you get a Lightning Bolt with a "+" above it. And when you charge with a USB PD charger (I'm using an Anker) it has two "+" above it like "++", it doesn't say "HyperCharge" or whatever on lock screen though, unlike OnePlus which says "Warp Charging" on the lock screen

I can't find any other charger that does the 10v 3amp that the asus one does. But I think with my quick charge 4 charger, its charging at 27 watts = 9v 3amps
I don't have a charger that does 10 volts though.

Annie the Eagle said:
Can anyone send me a photo of their phone while HyperCharging with the 30W charger? Like the battery icon and the lock screen?
When I plug in with a crappy charger, you just get the usual lightning bolt on the battery icon. If you plug in to a standard fast charger, you get a Lightning Bolt with a "+" above it. And when you charge with a USB PD charger (I'm using an Anker) it has two "+" above it like "++", it doesn't say "HyperCharge" or whatever on lock screen though, unlike OnePlus which says "Warp Charging" on the lock screen
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Yes, if you have proprietary 30W ROG charger you will see "Hypercharge" text above fingerprint sensor in lockscreen state and additional thunderbolt sign next to battery icon in status bar... No more "+" or "++".
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bluegizmo83 said:
Any recommendations for an alternative 30W wall charger (confirmed working with the Rog Phone 2) that's cheaper than the $50 official charger?
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I think you wont find any 3rd party charger that support asus hypercharge, at least for now... I bought 45w BASEUS charger that support QC 4 and PD 3 but it didnt work... I bought again 2 different C to C cable but still didnt work either.. And i end up buying the 30w ROG charger, and with any C to C cable i got hypercharge working.... Fyi, the phone will only charged at 25watt wheres th 5watt remain will be used to power up attached accessories like aero fan cooler.

How long charging your Baseus ?

Any luck on finding a Hypercharge Charger yet?

Guys for 3 watts, it's totally not worth it. 27 watts is more than enough. The difference would be minimal if not noticeable. Save your money and don't fall for the marketing of "Hypercharge" numbers don't lie.
If you have the Asus 30 Watt charger, great.
If you don't, grab any other charger that can do 27 watts or more if the price is right.

I have ordered the below linked charger and cable from AliExpress, will share the charging results once i receive them...
Currently i am using the 40w charger that came with my huawei p30 pro, but apparently it charges the ROG at 18w max....
SAR 15.53 55%OFF | KUULAA Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 36W USB Charger PD 3.0 Supercharge Fast Charging Phone Charger For Xiaomi Mi 9 8 iPhone X XR XS Max
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qVyQ5BEY
SAR 3.81 72%OFF | KUULAA USB Type C to USB C Cable For Xiaomi Mi 8 9 60W PD QC 4.0 USBC Fast Charge USB-C For Macbook Samsung Galaxy S10 S9 Type-C
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/d4o07x76

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Boo...ords=belkin+qc4+charger&qid=1573671104&sr=8-3
I can confirm no hyper charging with this one
Only gets up to 14.9W and "++"

the 45 watt pixelbook charger is charging at 9v 2amp only= 18 watts which is QC 2.0 speeds
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Thugsin313 said:
I have ordered the below linked charger and cable from AliExpress, will share the charging results once i receive them...
Currently i am using the 40w charger that came with my huawei p30 pro, but apparently it charges the ROG at 18w max....
SAR 15.53 55%OFF | KUULAA Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 36W USB Charger PD 3.0 Supercharge Fast Charging Phone Charger For Xiaomi Mi 9 8 iPhone X XR XS Max
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qVyQ5BEY
SAR 3.81 72%OFF | KUULAA USB Type C to USB C Cable For Xiaomi Mi 8 9 60W PD QC 4.0 USBC Fast Charge USB-C For Macbook Samsung Galaxy S10 S9 Type-C
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/d4o07x76
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That looks like a quick charge 3.0 charger.
QC3 only goes up to 18 watts

Tried another charger
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B079FW6B7G/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Got up to 15.4W this time but still no hyper charging, just "++". The 18W Asus is still the best I got with over 16W output. I'm not giving up though.
Testing another tomorrow lol

Thugsin313 said:
I have ordered the below linked charger and cable from AliExpress, will share the charging results once i receive them...
Currently i am using the 40w charger that came with my huawei p30 pro, but apparently it charges the ROG at 18w max....
SAR 15.53 55%OFF | KUULAA Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 36W USB Charger PD 3.0 Supercharge Fast Charging Phone Charger For Xiaomi Mi 9 8 iPhone X XR XS Max
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qVyQ5BEY
SAR 3.81 72%OFF | KUULAA USB Type C to USB C Cable For Xiaomi Mi 8 9 60W PD QC 4.0 USBC Fast Charge USB-C For Macbook Samsung Galaxy S10 S9 Type-C
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/d4o07x76
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Please let me know how the chargers performs, ty!

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Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Mi A2 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The phone ships with a quick charge 2.0 charger. The phone supports 3.0 and also 4.0 for India markets. Mine is Malaysian so it's 3.0. With stock charger it takes 1 hour 20mins + to get fully charged. Not too bad. With a QC 3.0 charger (Using my mi max 2 charger) it takes about less than an hour to get fully charged based on estimates. Charges quite quickly to 70% so stock charger is actually fine.
I think it supports USB PD as well, I used my pixel 2xl charger and it showed that the phone is charging rapidly, will do another full test and post results!
Rueddi_ger said:
How can I find out which QuickCharge version my A2 supports? I own the global version.
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If it's the global version, it should be QC3.0 . QC4.0 is only for India if I am not wrong.
Rueddi_ger said:
Oh that's sad. Is it worth buying a QC 4.0 charger anyway? Or is that wasted money?
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I don't think QC 3.0 is that much slower compared to QC 4.0. It's not like Oppo's new charge system, now that's quick haha. QC 3.0 is fine. I am still using QC 2.0 and it's all good no issues with it.
Timmychin said:
The phone ships with a quick charge 2.0 charger.
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I charged it in like 80 minutes with its charger but the charger doesnt say that it has quick charge
I was surprised
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Mi A2 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Phone supports quick chargers from xiaomi only. I have tried 2 different qc 3.0 certified chargers and both get 1800mah to my A2. My charger from my old Mi5s plus works fine and gives 2400mah.
maitred said:
Phone supports quick chargers from xiaomi only. I have tried 2 different qc 3.0 certified chargers and both get 1800mah to my A2. My charger from my old Mi5s plus works fine and gives 2400mah.
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I got the cheapest qc 3.0 from Amazon, tycipi or something like that. According to ampere app it is providing 2400 mah, it charges the phone quickly
I got the global version, so only QC3.0.
I have an Aukey PA-T8, 8 ports 5V 2.4A, 2 QC3.0 ports.
On 2.4A port, Ampere say 1800mA.
On QC3.0 port, Ampere say 2300mA.
Rueddi_ger said:
How can I find out which QuickCharge version my A2 supports? I own the global version.
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If you own a Global Version, your device will only support QC 3.0. Only Indian Variants support QC 4.0
My A2 unit is behaving quite strange, first let me say that Ampere is not so reliable as a USB power monitoring device, which I have (this unit gets you also the voltage which is being supplied to the phone).
MY measurements (with supplied USB-C cable) are:
- Stock charger: 1,6A voltage 5V
- QC 3.0 charger: up to 2,4A voltage 6,5V
- QC 2.0 Charger (works with Asus Zenfone 2 and Galaxy S8 on quick) - sometimes ZERO - just shuts down after a minute
Other 2A 5V chargers often not more than 0,6A (depending on cable)
So, A2 is very sensitive with cables and charging electronics and probably cannot accept 9V.
Global version.
Sometimes the phone when plugged in charger shows "Charging slowly" and sometimes "Charging Rapidly", What's up with that?
QC 3.0 (smartphone ON)
Aukey PA-T9 QC 3.0 charger
AmazonBasics USB type C to USB A male 3.1 gen2 0.9m black cable
Plugable USBC-VAMETER v.2 usb type c voltage & amperage meter
Smartphone ON, screen OFF (turned on just for taking pics)
Charging time: about 1h 40m from about 18% to 100%
See attachments for more details.
QC 3.0 (smartphone OFF)
Aukey PA-T9 QC 3.0 charger
AmazonBasics USB type C to USB A male 3.1 gen2 0.9m black cable
Plugable USBC-VAMETER v.2 usb type c voltage & amperage meter
Smartphone OFF
Charging time: about 1h 30m from about 20% to 100%
See attachments for more details.
PD 3.0 (smartphone ON)
Aukey PA-Y8 PD 3.0 charger
Anker Powerline II USB-C to USB-C 2.0 90cm cable
Plugable USBC-VAMETER v.2 usb type c voltage & amperage meter
Smartphone ON, screen OFF (turned on just for taking pics)
Charging time: about 1h 40m from about 18% to 100%
See attachments for more details.
PD 3.0 (smartphone OFF)
Aukey PA-Y8 PD 3.0 charger
Anker Powerline II USB-C to USB-C 2.0 90cm cable
Plugable USBC-VAMETER v.2 usb type c voltage & amperage meter
Smartphone OFF
Charging time: about 1h 30m from about 18% to 100%
See attachments for more details.
tomsag said:
A2 [...] probably cannot accept 9V
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With a Power Delivery 3.0 charger and smartphone off, it can surely be charged with a voltage of about 9V.
I don't know if it's possible also in other cases.
Is the QuickCharge 4.0 a software or a hardware feature in the Indian version? Just wondering if QC 4.0 can be "unlocked" in the global version through future software tweaks?
With the stock charger , it's charged after 3 hours it's normal ?
Candy_Pineapple said:
With the stock charger , it's charged after 3 hours it's normal ?
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Absolutely no

Dash charge 5V 4A from OP to charge MI9

Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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Thanks
I just tested, and it charges slower with OP dash charge
I have bought the wireless 20w pad charge , and it charges 1% per 40 sec, the pad plugged with the stock xiaomi charger ( who is 18w )
I would like to try a 27W, have you got a link for a good one ?
Have just tried my old OnePlus dash charger and it's the same as a standard normal non quick charge charger, not as fast as the included 18w charger
Anyone tried the oneplus dash charger with the 20w wireless charging pad? Would it throttle the charging speed?
Anyone tried to put diesel into petrol car? Dash charger and QC is whole different charging concept. Dash charger will work like regular charger(max. [email protected]) on every device except Dash equipped devices.
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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I believe it's not that simple, OnePlus Dash Charge supports 20W charging, BUT that's 5V 4A.
On the other hand, I believe Mi 9 accept max 2A current, so, if you use original OnePlus Dash Charge, it only charges Mi 9 at max 5V 2A = 10W, much slower than use a standard 18W QC 2.0.....
zachwzx said:
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
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Actually I have 4 Dash Chargers. There are tons of articles, topics here on XDA explaining how Dash Charging works a why it's not working on QC devices at 4Amps. For example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/accessories/dash-charge-protocol-analysis-t3431917
https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge-differences/
Long story short, it delivers 4A only for Dash enabled devices, with Dash cable. To maitain compatiblity with USB standard it can work also as regular 5V/2A charger.
BTW Xiaomi Wirless Pad draw 27W to deliver 20W. Look at the specs, it requires 20V/1,35A input. And you are asking if 5V/4A are enough.
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
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I recomend you to install aida64 on playstore , go to battery and plug the phone to the chargers.
It will say how much energy is going into the phone.
Try it with both chargers

Baseus 30W charger at Mi 9

does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
I think it's just Quick Charge 3.0. You should buy the 27W charger imo. But i could be wrong
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
Good I stopped by XDA before purchasing it.
It does say if you scroll down on its specs it's a QC4 charger, but I assumed the described output would be a sum of both USB ports working simultaneously.
Already posted about it some weeks ago.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79530777&postcount=73
It's indeed just a QC 4.0 charger. Will only do 18W.
Hi, I have one. For it to work properly you have to have the cable of more than 30w.
Load much faster than the original that comes in the box. I did a quick test from 75% to 100% with the phone turned off and charged in 25min; so you can assume if it's fast or not.
WTF ; does this phone even do QC4 ... the Xiaomi offical charger is 3.0 and I bought a $68 dollars Belkin QC : 4.0+ offical as per reviews and it caps out at. 3470 : it NEVER has said fast or TURBO and it ofen Ampere reports 1800 mah ? Can anyone explain this in any way
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
Ataemonus said:
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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I couldn't find this :/
hardtheory said:
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
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Thanks for info dude
I suspect that Turbo Charge only happens with the 27W factory charger.
Because my Hama QC4+ charger, certified by Qualcomm, charges definitely faster than the 18W charger found in the package, but does not say Charge Fast or even Charge Turbo.
twojastara-5 said:
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
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Call me crazy but I think it will charge the device at 27W speed.
A lot of people don't seem to realize but the "Xiaomi Turbo Charger 27W" is actually QC3, not QC4+, and it does charge the device at 27W. If you find a QC4+ charger that supports 27W and up, you will still get 27W charging but you won't see "Charge Turbo" because it will use the better, newer charging standard.
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
lusp00ky said:
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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Yeah but it can only charge at standard QC3 speeds, aka 18W at max. 9V/2A like the original one does. But the original one can also do 12V/1.5A. So it does not "Turbo Charge".
Careful many poster here are confused. My BELKIN true QC4.0+ never ever charged over 3200mA and averaged out at under 2200mA. Posters who speak about things without testing their theories are really frustrating. Do yourself a favor don't believe this phone accepts QC4 or QC 4.0+ (at least not @July 2019) only QC 3.0 NON FAKE xiaomi 27w can do the 4600mA + it would seem. Turbo charging is required for extremely rapid charge times. Make sure you get OFFICIAL 20V 1.35A from Xiaomi for Turbo Charge sustained charge and under one hour 0--100%
I also purchased a QC 4.0+ Hama DC charger cause Xiaomi doesn't make a DC charger to my knowledge. Guess what ; 18w ish charging speeds .. no Fast or Turbo classification ...
XIAOMI Hoe do you call this phone a QC 4.0/4.0+ unit !!! Cause look close at the charger Turbo pictures they are all using the "Original QC 3.0 Xiaomi charger that we ALL should have got in the box. Instead many of us have wasted tonnes of money and time buying useless to us QC 4.0+ tech that doesn't work or WORSE fake chargers that don't do more than 18w !! By the time we we have ordered 3-4 different chargers trying to get it to work we have to order it on Ali or gearbest or Gearvita. Cause the company does make them after all!! Enjoy the brutal shipping fees and heavy wait times. Well we order this and that trying to get the darn thing to work. So annoyed right now
Hi, I got the original charger and this if it gives the turbocharged 27w charge, however the baseus charger charges the same as the one that comes in the box or with the wireless charge.
I made this short video: https://youtu.be/nFBoPxORzEg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/mi-9t-pro-30w-charger-experiment-t4003595
read this. Also tested with a mi9 that my fried had. same result.( Turbo charging up to 30W using the baseus charger)
Posted for those who end up here like me and read mixed info
I also have the Baseus charger mentioned above (BS-EU906), the variant with 2 usb A ports.
When I charge with the cable from my samsung galaxy tab S5e it charges with a bit over 4200mA 20w-21w.
But when I charge with my Baseus 2m 5a capable cable (CATSS-B0G), it never goes above 3400mA ~14w.
It still chargers fast, but it is not what was advertised. Both the cable and charger are rated for QC3.
Baseus GaN charger 65W + Baseus 5A cable reaches 5000mA in Ampere, which is assuming 5V (that's what Ampere is assuming), equals to 25W. The fact is voltage in QC is never stable, it's the factor that allows it to dynamically supply power based on various parameters: battery temp, device temp, battery capacity and so on. If you have a USB-C USB doctor (and it should be more accurate than any software based monitoring) you can watch yourself that both the voltage and current are alternating constantly.

Question What charger?

So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
sshariff said:
So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
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Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
oxfordmark said:
Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
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So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
Also is anyone else finding there phone really hot when charging?
oxfordmark said:
So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
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Even if you plug your 18W charger into your phone it will say charging rapidly. It doesn't mean its charging at the full 30W capacity!
Any USB c charger will eventually charge your phone.
pemz82 said:
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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That should do as it has the PD 3.0 standard with PPS. A word of note that you will see 30W chargers just with PD 3.0 but no PPS. These will charge slower than those with PPS but should still be more rapid than the previous gen 18W fast charger.
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
mitchst2 said:
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
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Same, 2 for £58.48
oxfordmark said:
Same, 2 for £58.48
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Got mine before they removed the 25% discount
Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
I have had my eye on that spigen charger for a while now. I am actually a big fan of spigen. I have had every pixel and I have used a spigen case for each one.
I actually don't like using those high amp chargers. I only use them when i am in a pinch like i forgot to charge my phone and i gotta go. I use a chargie with a 1amp usb port on my power strip. And i only charge to 80 percent. Again if i am in a pinch or if i know i will be gone from a charger for more than 10 hours i will charge to 100 but that rarely happens. My pixel 4xl used to last all day plus and I had it for 2 years and when i traded it in the battery was still at 98 percent health.
I have a question though since we are talking about chargers. I have a lenovo chromebook that uses a 45w usb c charger. can i use that on my pixel 6? I have the base model 6 not the pro. Or will that damage it? I would assume that it would be ok but just want a second opinion.
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DoobyDroid said:
Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
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On to Amazon now!
If i ordered today i would be paying around £6 less for two!
This charger oozes quality. It is slightly smaller than the pixel 5 18w charger, comes with a higher quality braided cable, in all much better value than the Google 30w charger.
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
If you're not testing your charger with a usb C meter of some sort, you're almost certainly not getting 30W.
These pixels appear to have an apple style restriction on chargers. Something many people are missing is that not all PPS chargers are created equally. Google specifies 21v whereas most of the pps chargers on the market top out at 11v.
I've tried 3 different 65W 11v PPS chargers and they all top out at 18-20W.
I then specifically bought a 21v capable charger and still it tops out at 18-20W.
I'm extremely disappointed Google decided to take this anti consumer approach. The chargers I have tried are by all means technologically superior to Google's charger in every way and yet this arbitrary restriction means I'm forced to buy Google's if I want 30W charging.
I can include links/photos/videos if anyone is curious.
mitchst2 said:
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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Just read your previous post now.
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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Just read your previous post now.
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"Up to 45W(5.0V=3.0A, 9.0V=3.0A, 15.0V=3.0A, 20.0V=2.25A, 3.3V-11.0V=3.5A, 3.3V-16.0V=3.0A)"
^ Taken from the amazon page for the Spigen charger.
No support for 21V so no 30W fast charging. Even if it did support 21V, I doubt it would go over 18-20W, based on my findings.
Of course it's ridiculous because even with "only" 20V, the charger can push 2.25A which is more than enough for 30W charging. I don't understand the point of PPS if the voltage/current combinations are not dynamic. The implementation of PPS so far seems to make a mockery of the intended purpose of the standard.

Question 40W Charger not working

I have two Huawei 40W chargers and both of them won't charge my Pixel. You plug it in and it actually discharges the battery, on both of them. It charges fine on two 18W chargers I've got, but it takes forever.
Has anyone else got this problem?
The Pixel 6 needs a charger with PPS and 21V.
Can this work?
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Can this work?
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I think this one does not have PPS.

			
				
no. this have DC 3.3-11V/3A.
you need a charger with 3,3V-21V. Samsung have a charger with 21V ( Ep-TA845 )
But not all PPS is the same. There are many chargers with PPS that have a maximum of 11V or 16V.
so which charger do we need lol
Samsung or from Google. No one else can.
I ordered this one (but on Amazon Germany).
It has 65W, PD 3.0 and PPS with 21V so it SHOULD work ... guess I'll find out later this week
Is the OnePlus 65W warp charger good for the full 30W?
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Is the OnePlus 65W warp charger good for the full 30W?
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I can't speak from experience, but my immediate answer has to be no. OnePlus uses a proprietary technology. You generally cannot use their cables OR chargers for anything other than OnePlus products.
I am personally coming from the OnePlus 6T which used a dash charger. Not the warp charger, but basically the same tech. And I tried that charger on the phone and it DID NOT even register that it was charging more than basic USB 2.0 trickle charging.
The 65W one is supposedly PPS and PD compliant.
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The 65W one is supposedly PPS and PD compliant.
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don't you have your phone in hand? you just unlocked it. try to charge it lol. what do accubattery/AMPERE report for volts/amps? just do the math and you will see what wattage you are using.
but again, i am pretty certain the oneplus tech is just different and totally incompatible.
Ampere is kinda funky when measuring fast charging since the voltage readings aren't correct. But I'll keep testing.
Might only be getting 18W.
Edit: Warp Charger 65T is missing PPS 21V⎓1.5A but it should be able to do PD 9V⎓3A or PPS 3.3-16V⎓3A. Guess it's not good enough. This is incredibly annoying because OnePlus and others have followed the standard but if PPS branding isn't enough, that's horrible.
I ordered this 67W charger from Xiaomi. £18 delivered.
In case it helps:
My P6 is charging fine Rapidly with the USB-C port on a Tronsmart U5P (60w multiport charger) - maybe not at max speed, but the screen shows 'Charging Rapidly' - normal speed on the other ports.
It also charges at normal speed using a Q34U2Q CHOETECH USB C PD charger.
Update: I also tested with a Tronsmart W2PTU with USB-C port and that also shows 'Charging Rapidly'..
Also, the Spigen Arcstation is back on 25% discount on Amazon UK right now
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
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Biggenz said:
I ordered this 67W charger from Xiaomi. £18 delivered.
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hi, can you advise where from? I dont see it on the Xiaomi UK site.
thanks.
harryw66 said:
hi, can you advise where from? I dont see it on the Xiaomi UK site.
thanks.
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Aliexpress
harryw66 said:
In case it helps:
My P6 is charging fine Rapidly with the USB-C port on a Tronsmart U5P (60w multiport charger) - maybe not at max speed, but the screen shows 'Charging Rapidly' - normal speed on the other ports.
It also charges at normal speed using a Q34U2Q CHOETECH USB C PD charger.
Update: I also tested with a Tronsmart W2PTU with USB-C port and that also shows 'Charging Rapidly'..
Also, the Spigen Arcstation is back on 25% discount on Amazon UK right now
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
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Ordered the Spigen as well. Quality charger and cable.
charging rapidly could mean 18w. that's what mine was on several 61 and 65watt chargers.
that's half the speed. do yourselves a favor and test a few chargers before you accept what rapid charging really is.

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