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Are you guys having any problems with stereo sound quality playback or
sound quality (both ends) during calls?
I'm getting a black Jawbone for handling calls but I would like to be able to
listen to music or watch video on the commute to and from work without
having the 'train/subway' in my head.
Is the S9 from Motorola good at pairing up with the Hermes (X01HT in my
case) and holding the connection? Do all the remote features on the S9 headset
work with the S9/Hermes pairing?
Thanks in advance for any advice you may have.
hey man. the s9 are great...the best stereo headset hands down! its like jaw dropping. the controls on the side is very sensitive. its not like an actually button besides the talk/end button. the audio controls are like touch control. HOWEVER, the actual headset for phone calls is horrible...most stereo headsets use both sides to listen to the caller...however this one only allows hearing the caller on the LEFT ear...that is the only downside. if you're coming from the jawbone...it is night and day...but for music/video purposes its great. i use it for my ipod now
truciet said:
hey man. the s9 are great...the best stereo headset hands down! its like jaw dropping. the controls on the side is very sensitive. its not like an actually button besides the talk/end button. the audio controls are like touch control. HOWEVER, the actual headset for phone calls is horrible...most stereo headsets use both sides to listen to the caller...however this one only allows hearing the caller on the LEFT ear...that is the only downside. if you're coming from the jawbone...it is night and day...but for music/video purposes its great. i use it for my ipod now
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Cool, I was worried about stereo sound quality over BT since BT isn't known
for great sound quality to begin with. I have heard that the S9 are only
average for calls but that's going to be the Jawbone's job.
So all the button features like answer/end, volume up/down, play/pause
and forward/back tracks all work with the Hermes based phone?
I love the S9. the audio and the controls all work wonderfully.
The phone aspect isn't really good, it picks up a lot of background noise and it can be a bit difficult to annunciate into it.
As a music headset it is GREAT. great sound. Louder than it needs to be and great frequency range
I use the S9 quite a bit. The sound quality is fantastic and the volume can get quite loud. You'll often see me at starbucks listening to streaming internet radio with my S9/8525.
As far as call quality, it's not too bad. you only get call audio out of the left earbud, since the mic is in the right one. There's pretty good compression going on with the mic, so you really don't have to raise your voice at all. However, callers on the other end complain about background sound if I'm in a noisy place, so use it accordingly.
( I use the JawBone also, especially for long calls where background noise would be unacceptable. )
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I love the S9. the audio and the controls all work wonderfully.
The phone aspect isn't really good, it picks up a lot of background noise and it can be a bit difficult to annunciate into it.
As a music headset it is GREAT. great sound. Louder than it needs to be and great frequency range
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Louder than needed is always better than "I wish it could be louder". I was
hoping that it would not be underpowered. Thanks for bringing that point up
as I didn't read that in any of the online reviews out there. Plus, I always
think those reviews aren't so 'real life' anyways. Here on XDA-developers
you get the 'actual real life' reviews with no worries that someone is getting
paid to prop the product up for profit.
Call quality is a concern but I figured into that an ordered a Jawbone based
on the great reviews its received here on XDA.
Thanks for your input.
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I use the S9 quite a bit. The sound quality is fantastic and the volume can get quite loud. You'll often see me at starbucks listening to streaming internet radio with my S9/8525.
As far as call quality, it's not too bad. you only get call audio out of the left earbud, since the mic is in the right one. There's pretty good compression going on with the mic, so you really don't have to raise your voice at all. However, callers on the other end complain about background sound if I'm in a noisy place, so use it accordingly.
( I use the JawBone also, especially for long calls where background noise would be unacceptable. )
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It's really good to hear that the S9 is NOT underpowered volume wise.
You can always turn it down but it really does suck when the sound is weak.
I would figure some of that loudness maybe due to what looks like a really
good fit (seal) of the headset to the ear causing a good block of surrounding
sounds.
It's too bad about call quality because that is usually one of Motorola only
strong points in most of their products. Oh well, I guess the other one being
looks has been achieved with the S9.
The background noise issue is the same reason I'm getting the Jawbone. I
have had the same complaint with the OEM wired headset that came with
the X01HT. People just don't want to talk to you when it gets hard to
understand you. Plus it really just doesn't help if you're trying to handle
a situation that needs no extra stress added like that loud background
noise. It's too bad because the caller's voice comes in nice and clear through
those OEM stereo headsets. Sometimes it's kind of creepy because it's too
clear and it sounds as if they're right in your head.
Thanks for your input.
I had the s9 for about a month. It was great for music and video via Coreplayer. No skipping on my 8525 with the lastest rom. Call quality was decent, but I bought it for the music. Now, the bad news, my S9 just died on me a couple days ago and wouldn't charge. I finally got it to work ,sortof, but the controls on the right side don't respond. Called Motorola and got a return authorization. Will be sending it back. Hope it was just a fluke. Just some info. With coreplayer the S9 controls play/pause skip/ff didn't work. But volume and phone control worked.
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I had the s9 for about a month. It was great for music and video via Coreplayer. No skipping on my 8525 with the lastest rom. Call quality was decent, but I bought it for the music. Now, the bad news, my S9 just died on me a couple days ago and wouldn't charge. I finally got it to work ,sortof, but the controls on the right side don't respond. Called Motorola and got a return authorization. Will be sending it back. Hope it was just a fluke. Just some info. With coreplayer the S9 controls play/pause skip/ff didn't work. But volume and phone control worked.
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Did you buy direct from Motorola? I just placed an order from an 'online shop'
so I hope I don't have any problems down the road. If I do, I hope I can deal
with MOTO directly since they 'sometimes' tend to be a bit more on the ball.
Plus most online shops will tell you to go directly to the manufacturer to deal
with warranty issues anyways so you never know who's handling warranty.
Good luck with the warranty exchange and I hope it all works out for you.
Thanks for the heads up on the non-functioning buttons with Coreplayer.
I did want to point out a few details before I posted my review of them over at mobilitysite
Pro: USB charging... 1 cable to rule them all
Pro: only 1 blinking light, relatively subdued and it is facing the back of your neck while worn
Pro: will turn itself off after an hour if I fall asleep or an otherwise careless
Con: my fat fingers aren't really sensitive enough to find the little controls while worn
Con: it doesn't quite feel right on my big fat head... don't know if it is because it has to spread out a bit to get around my head or if I'm just not used to it. In any case it is very secure and isn't going to slip off.
Con: No way of determining battery life.. is it good for an hour or 8 hours?
Con: not quite flexible enough to store or a clip for a lanyard, although it is an easy fix to tie something to it
Radimus said:
I did want to point out a few details before I posted my review of them over at mobilitysite
Pro: USB charging... 1 cable to rule them all
Pro: only 1 blinking light, relatively subdued and it is facing the back of your neck while worn
Pro: will turn itself off after an hour if I fall asleep or an otherwise careless
Con: my fat fingers aren't really sensitive enough to find the little controls while worn
Con: it doesn't quite feel right on my big fat head... don't know if it is because it has to spread out a bit to get around my head or if I'm just not used to it. In any case it is very secure and isn't going to slip off.
Con: No way of determining battery life.. is it good for an hour or 8 hours?
Con: not quite flexible enough to store or a clip for a lanyard, although it is an easy fix to tie something to it
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Thanks for breaking it down into pros vs cons.
I did not know that the S9 would shut it self down after an hour of inactivity.
That's cool since it should extent battery life a bit. The blinking LED is
hopefully not too noticeable by others, I hope.
Yeah, I've heard that the buttons can be a bit of a pain to deal with simply
because of the way they are made. I guess I'll just see how I rate in finger
size when I get these S9s sometime next week according to the website I
ordered them from.
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Did you buy direct from Motorola? I just placed an order from an 'online shop'
so I hope I don't have any problems down the road. If I do, I hope I can deal
with MOTO directly since they 'sometimes' tend to be a bit more on the ball.
Plus most online shops will tell you to go directly to the manufacturer to deal
with warranty issues anyways so you never know who's handling warranty.
Good luck with the warranty exchange and I hope it all works out for you.
Thanks for the heads up on the non-functioning buttons with Coreplayer.
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I bought my S9 from an online shop as well, so i'm hoping that motorola wont give me a hard time when I turn it in for repair. In the meangtime I just ordered a sony hbh-ds-970 as a backup.
guamlaw said:
I bought my S9 from an online shop as well, so i'm hoping that motorola wont give me a hard time when I turn it in for repair. In the meangtime I just ordered a sony hbh-ds-970 as a backup.
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It's going to be Christmas in June for me when the Jawbone and the S9 arrive
this week and next week. Hopefully I won't have trouble with either one
of them because warranty returns are such a PITA.
Here is the link to my junior review...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/...-s9-stereo-bluetooth-headphones-unboxing.html
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Here is the link to my junior review...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/...-s9-stereo-bluetooth-headphones-unboxing.html
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Nice review and pictures.
"geek jewelry" ROFLMA
For me its a 7.5 out of ten. Two things i dont like, it hurts my left ears just a little if i keep it in there for long, and that you only hear from the left side when talking on the phone... other from that i'm ok with it.
S9 - Not perfect, but very nice
The Motorola S9 is a really nice little headset.
I find it a bit weak on bass, but I’m coming from a Motorola V3i (non-iTunes) with Motorola wired USB stereo headset, and that is one of the most impressive low cost sets of ear buds I’ve ever worn. Not sure how they did that! Note that Motorola wired USB headsets do NOT work on the Hermes, which is a shame, because the HTC wired headset is real junk.
The only glitchy things I’ve seen so far with the S9 and the Hermes / 8525 are:
After hanging up a call, music resumes, but sometimes skips badly for 10-20 seconds. A couple times pressing answer has given only a hum in the left ear, and no ability to talk or listen. Hopefully, the final versions of the Win Mob 6 Bluetooth stack will take care of this.
The S9 ships with 2 different sets of rubber “nubs” to cover the speakers. The default ones that come installed are small, and can be removed and rotated to really direct the sound into your ear as best as possible for different sizes and shapes of ears. In a little bag, you will find a spare set of the default nubs, but ALSO a larger set that have a very soft rubber membrane that floats over a harder rubber inner tube. Some users may find these more comfortable, as they do not intrude into your ear as far.
Personally, I don’t mind the fact that it switches to left ear only for voice calls, I’ve never been all that keen on that “you’re inside my head” sensation of stereo headsets when used for monaural voice.
Remember that on a stock Cingular ROM with Win Mob 5, this headset will basically sound like “mono”, not stereo, but that’s not Motorola’s fault, it's M$'s atrocious BT stack!
Good points:
- really, REALLY light, yet stays in place no matter what
- AV and phone controls work properly with HTC Hermes & Windows Mobile
- Rubber ear nubs direct sound into your ears without need for itchy foam covers
- Really soft touch activation of volume and FF/REW buttons (prevents displacment of the headset while adjusting the most common controls)
Not so good points:
- No indication of how much battery charge is left
- A little weak on bass response
- Not enough tactile difference to easily distinguish between play and answer buttons vs volume and FF/REW buttons
- Picks up room noise really badly in phone mode - works best in quiet(er) locations.
haiti525 said:
The Motorola S9 is a really nice little headset.
I find it a bit weak on bass, but I’m coming from a Motorola V3i (non-iTunes) with Motorola wired USB stereo headset, and that is one of the most impressive low cost sets of ear buds I’ve ever worn. Not sure how they did that! Note that Motorola wired USB headsets do NOT work on the Hermes, which is a shame, because the HTC wired headset is real junk.
The only glitchy things I’ve seen so far with the S9 and the Hermes / 8525 are:
After hanging up a call, music resumes, but sometimes skips badly for 10-20 seconds. A couple times pressing answer has given only a hum in the left ear, and no ability to talk or listen. Hopefully, the final versions of the Win Mob 6 Bluetooth stack will take care of this.
The S9 ships with 2 different sets of rubber “nubs” to cover the speakers. The default ones that come installed are small, and can be removed and rotated to really direct the sound into your ear as best as possible for different sizes and shapes of ears. In a little bag, you will find a spare set of the default nubs, but ALSO a larger set that have a very soft rubber membrane that floats over a harder rubber inner tube. Some users may find these more comfortable, as they do not intrude into your ear as far.
Personally, I don’t mind the fact that it switches to left ear only for voice calls, I’ve never been all that keen on that “you’re inside my head” sensation of stereo headsets when used for monaural voice.
Remember that on a stock Cingular ROM with Win Mob 5, this headset will basically sound like “mono”, not stereo, but that’s not Motorola’s fault, it's M$'s atrocious BT stack!
Good points:
- really, REALLY light, yet stays in place no matter what
- AV and phone controls work properly with HTC Hermes & Windows Mobile
- Rubber ear nubs direct sound into your ears without need for itchy foam covers
- Really soft touch activation of volume and FF/REW buttons (prevents displacment of the headset while adjusting the most common controls)
Not so good points:
- No indication of how much battery charge is left
- A little weak on bass response
- Not enough tactile difference to easily distinguish between play and answer buttons vs volume and FF/REW buttons
- Picks up room noise really badly in phone mode - works best in quiet(er) locations.
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Thanks for your review. You filled a few more of the blanks that I was trying
to figure out. I hope the bass response won't be an issue for me but then
again I like to 'feel' my bass and these are just headphones so I don't expect
be getting 'rocked' by them is what I'm telling myself long before they arrive.
OMG!!! BASS and lots of it!!! I am using GSPlayer with the sound settings
VERY tweaked to my taste and even with BassBoost at minimum I am getting
more bass then I would have imagined possible with a BT stereo headset.
Of course you must have really good, clean 192KBps or better MP3s to begin
with and if you ripped them yourself at 320KBps, then you're just enjoying
better then can be expected results with a BT stereo headset.
Me likely!
Once I manage to wipe the stupid smile off my face I will be back to
update my findings for anyone still on the fence thinking about getting
one of these Motorola S9's and needing a slight shove.
I put on the large silicon ear fittings and the bass is incredible.
With the latest ROM's and improved BT drivers I am now able to leave the phone next to the wall about 12 feet behind the basketball goal and shoot pro 3-pointers all day without skipping a beat. And that's while streaming with iPlay from my desktop at home. The microphone isn't the best but if someone calls you can talk, get rid of them, and get back to shooting and jamming in no time. We're getting there...
I have been testing a bunch of different headphones and earbuds lately and will answer in a completely unbiased way any questions posters may have about any of the setups.
I have been doing extensive listening with all these different setups lately.*
To tell what kind of listener I am, I was in the high end/audiophile *stereo business for over 10 years. I also sold/installed competition grade car audio.
I have a fairly musical ear from all that, but I am absolutely NOT an audiophile. *I am no different than a good majority of posters in that I like loud rock music with plenty of bass and a bright high end. *I am NOT looking for the most accurate sound (that is boring to me), I want my headphones to ROCK. *I used to sell $4000 electrostatic speakers and when I listened to them I always wanted to crank up the bass and treble, it drove the "true audiophiles" crazy LOL
I have tested and own:
Headphones:
1. V-Moda Crossfade
2. Bose QC 15
3. Beats Studio
4. Beats Solo
Earbuds:
5. *stock Rezound ibeats
6. Beats Tour
7. Ultimate Ears TripleFi
8. Kicker (don't know the model, they came free with some car speakers)
9. Senheiser CX300 ll
10. Etymotic ER-4 Micro-Pro
Right now, my daily driver at work are the Bose QCs but it's not because I am overly impressed with the sound (I'm not). *The battery powered sound isolation in the QCs is absolutely amazing and I work in a noisy environment. *This is great for me, but my son says the sound isolation feature makes him nauseous so they are not for everyone. They are also very light and comfortable (but the build quality sucks for the price, they remind me of the build of a galaxy nexus)so I can wear them all day.
My favorite headphone sound wise are the beats studio (which also use battery sound isolation but it is not even close to as effective as the QCs) although they are overpriced. *I got them from the monster outlet store for $199 and the site said they where "refurbs" but they sent me a brand new pair in a sealed box. *The studios have much stronger bass than the Bose and it doesn't break up when i push the volume like the Bose do. *I tried to wear the Studios for work, but they are a lot heavier than the Bose and gave me a headache after a few hours.
I like the beats tour a LOT, *they are much better than the ibeats and are also available in the monster refurb store.
The TripleFi's are awesome (as well they should be for the price), the senheiser sound absolutely amazing for the $30 price.
The Etymotics are much too accurate for me and I hate them and they are really expensive.
The V-Moda are a great deal for the $100 eBay price, sound really good and are very comfortable. They sound a little "hollow" at times, but I don't object to it.
The beats solo are $200 and they sound awful to me plus they hurt my ears after a while.
I recently sold a pair of Klipsch M40s also, I thought they where much too heavy and way overpriced.
Think you should check out nuforce. Their earbuds are 70 $ and destroy all of what you have listed.
I much rather listen to my B&W P5s but I didn't like B&W's earbuds so I got the nuforce.
Also...$4000 dollar electrostats are not audiophile grade. Not even close. I to work in high end audio, and you start hitting audiophile grade electrostatics at 13K or so.
Plus, your never going to get car fi bass outta a two channel stereo setup for what you said, it is accurate and real sound.
I am guessing you never go to concerts? You wouldn't like those either because they are to accurate lol.
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nosympathy said:
Think you should check out nuforce. Their earbuds are 70 $ and destroy all of what you have listed.
I much rather listen to my B&W P5s but I didn't like B&W's earbuds so I got the nuforce.
Also...$4000 dollar electrostats are not audiophile grade. Not even close. I to work in high end audio, and you start hitting audiophile grade electrostatics
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No argument from me about the nuforce, I have a set of NE-700x sitting right here but haven't really had a chance to check them out yet.
I agree that $4000 is certainly at the low end for electrostatics, but we didn't stock the higher priced models -those where just a demo set.
I am not in the business anymore, but I was the top B & W dealer in our area for a few years.
Where is your business??
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No argument from me about the nuforce, I have a set of NE-700x sitting right here but haven't really had a chance to check them out yet.
I agree that $4000 is certainly at the low end for electrostatics, but we didn't stock the higher priced models -those where just a demo set.
I am not in the business anymore, but I was the top B & W dealer in our area for a few years.
Where is your business??
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I actually work for a Magnolia Home Theater right now in cincinnati. One of the few salesmen who hasn't been corrupted by best buy yet. Trying to leave for that reason. Best buy has been ruining everything they touch.
We are the only B&W dealer in like 100 miles. The other company that was, started discounting B&W to steal our sales and B&W found out and pulled all their products from them.
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I don't have enough experience with headphones as I used Skull Candy buds in the past which sounded ok to me and were cheap (which is why they don't last long) so these headphones are my first set of quality buds.
I would like something with a bit better sound, however, I would like to also maintain the buttons which are useful on my long commute to/from work. Do any of the buds you have used maintain the use of the buttons?
Rezound ibeats plugged into an Beats Audio HP laptop with tweaked settings. Beyond amazing! If only I could get the same beats quality sound from my laptop on my Rezound. Beats on Rezound arent as good.
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Do any of the buds you have used maintain the use of the buttons?
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The beats tour do, but like most buds they are set up for an iPod/iPhone. (same with all the headphones Listed)
I use an app called "headset button controller" to make the control compatible with Android.
as far as just listening to music(no mic) goes, i have these Sony sport earbuds i got from Best Buy for like $45 - $50... model #: MDRAS40EX.
they have about as much bass as the beats + sound cleaner. i got them because the beats kept falling out of my ears when i was working out. i don't have that problem anymore.
LOL, that's quite a sig you got there bro.........
I use a $20 set of Skullcandy buds.
The Beats headphones that come with the phone sound pretty good, but ergonomically they are complete crap. Too long and too heavy, they simply will not stay put in your ear, and as soon as they shift out of position even slightly, the bass and sound quality go to ****.
Because of the weight and length, they get a ton of leverage and unless you are sitting perfectly still, they work their way loose no matter what cushions I use. And they are too long to fit inside a helmet, so I got a set of Skullcandy buds and they sound almost as good, and they stay put and work really well inside a motorcycle helmet.
Yea, inside a motorcycle helmet presents a whole new set of problems.
I have ridden a motorcycle for years (& I owned a biker bar for 20 years) so I know all about that.
The Senheiser & the Kicker buds I have work fine under a helmet, others like the Ultimate Ears or the Beats Tour definitely do not.
EDIT: if you think the ibeats are too long, you sure don't want to try the Beats Tour -those are like twice as long...LOL
I just recently have been trying to use the stock ibeats for when at the gym and I can tell you that they just don't work for me. I can't seem to find the right fitment so they are always falling out.
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I know a lot of audiophiles absolutely hate Bose, but I've got a pair of IE2s, and I personally think they're the best headphones I've ever used. The ear pieces do not come out, and they're comfortable, so that's a plus.
They're extremely clear and they handle the bass really well. (although probably not as well as a pair of Beats.)
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I know a lot of audiophiles absolutely hate Bose
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Right, they all hate Beats/Monster stuff too.
It is the hip/sophisticated snob attitute to say that kind of stuff.
The fact is Bose & Beats stuff put out exactly the kind of sound a lot of normal guys (not audiophiles) really like. I love the sound of my Beats Studio headphones. Are they accurate?? Absolutely not, they have too much bass & the high end is too bright but that is exactly what I like about them.
The high end Klipsch cans I had ($350 a pair) where more accurate for sure, but I sold them because I like the Beats better.
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I just recently have been trying to use the stock ibeats for when at the gym and I can tell you that they just don't work for me. I can't seem to find the right fitment so they are always falling out.
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That is a problem with a lot of earbuds.
My UltimateEars TripleFi solve that problem although they are expensive. The UEs have a stiff bendable wire section of the cord right after the ear part. That wire can be bent to wrap around the back of your ear & hold the buds so there is NO WAY they can fall out.
One thing I have found out lately is what a HUGE difference in the sound a different set of ear tips can make. I must have gone thru 12 different sets of tips on the UEs thinking the whole time that "these things don't really sound all that great especially for the price".
Then, I tried a set of Moster gel tips that just happen to also fit the UEs & all of a sudden it was "WOW, these things sound absolutely awesome"
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Right, they all hate Beats/Monster stuff too.
It is the hip/sophisticated snob attitute to say that kind of stuff.
The fact is Bose & Beats stuff put out exactly the kind of sound a lot of normal guys (not audiophiles) really like. I love the sound of my Beats Studio headphones. Are they accurate?? Absolutely not, they have too much bass & the high end is too bright but that is exactly what I like about them.
The high end Klipsch cans I had ($350 a pair) where more accurate for sure, but I sold them because I like the Beats better.
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I completely agree. Most people fail to realize that audio is subjective, and "if you don't like what I like, you're wrong."
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I completely agree. Most people fail to realize that audio is subjective, and "if you don't like what I like, you're wrong."
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It's a lot more objective than you claim. It's more like "The further you get away from the sound coming from the monitors when the final mix was made, the more you're wrong."
Just sayin' - I know some people simply don't care about what the artist intended to be heard. But then again, there are the Enid Lumley's, who say they can hear a difference in the sound when they point a flashlight at the speaker.
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It's a lot more objective than you claim. It's more like "The further you get away from the sound coming from the monitors when the final mix was made, the more you're wrong."
Just sayin' - I know some people simply don't care about what the artist intended to be heard. But then again, there are the Enid Lumley's, who say they can hear a difference in the sound when they point a flashlight at the speaker.
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My point was that what headphones sound good to one person don't sound good to another. Whether the artist intended for you to max out the bass when you listen to their music doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. It's the same reason why people like band A but dislike band B.
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Whether the artist intended for you to max out the bass when you listen to their music doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong..
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Whoosh.
If the artist wanted more bass, they'd put it on the recording, not expect it to be added in playback.
Anyone have any opinions on which is better? I'm an avid runner and cyclist and looking for a stereo bluetooth headset to get rid of the wire. Sweat resistance and sound quality are my biggest concerns.
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I personally found the S10's to be extremely uncomfortable after only a few minutes. They were returned the next day.
I haven't tried the other model.
I've owned S9, S9-HD and S10. Sound quality is so disappointing with the S10, get the S9-HD. It is the best.
I bought the LG Tone Bluetooth earphones. I liked them because of the 10 hour battery charge and because of the small earphones.
I actually took them to the gym last night and they weren't bothersome while I was on the treadmill. they didn't fall out or anything. at the beginning, the base jumped around a little. but then I tucked them into my sweater and they stayed in place. they did get sweaty but I just cleaned them down with a sanitary wipe a couple of hours later when I got home. didn't notice anything today.
and just now I wore them for a couple of hours while I went out for a long walk at the beach.
answer call buttons, play/pause, volume up/down, forward/back buttons.
they're pretty inconspicuous when wearing something with a collar. the audio is good. like i said... 8-10 hours on a single charge. that itself was a big selling point for me.
I had originally wanted these Sony instead: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GXR1P2/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8 Sony Ericsson Bluetooth HBH-IS800 - Headset ( in-ear ear-bud ) - wireless... but they only hold a 3-4 charge. and they stick out from your ear more than regular in-ear earphones because I guess that's where the Bluetooth stuff is located. as well as the battery. and these lack any sort of buttons. I really like the simplicity of them but I passed.
and then I thought about going this route: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003DQ1DCM/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8 Sony Ericsson Hi-Fi Bluetooth Stereo Headset with FM Radio... but i figured I'd still have to deal with the length of wire from the headphones you choose to plug in. but the good thing about these ones is that you can plug in some high quality headphones if you choose to.
and finally, if all you're going to use the earphones is for exercising... then you could go with these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FVNHBI/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8 Jabra SPORT Bluetooth Stereo Headset - Black/Yellow... but then you can't use them for casual stuff without looking silly.
I didn't even consider those Motorola ones because they look silly to use say at work... and they look rigid.
I looked into a wide variety of available Bluetooth earphones. I chose the LG Tone for the reasons I stated. I like them. and I found them new on Craigslist for $40.
What would you guys recommend for a cheap bluetooth headset capable of streaming music from my Atrix while at the gym? Doesn't have to be flashy or expensive or have insane sound quality.... just something reliable, that will work for a while and be somewhat resistant to drops etc...
I've got the S10 headset. It's okay, seems pretty durable, and stays on snugly when running. I do get a little tired of wearing them after a couple of hours. And the sound is just mediocre without using some king of EQ app, like DSPManager or something.
They work pretty well for running, though. And casual listening at work. And conference calls.
I've had mine for 9 months or so.
I personally use the MW600 by sony ericsson which lets you actually use your own headphones - a big plus if you care about the sound, seeing almost any high quality headphones are better then the ones that are built into these usual bluetooth pieces.
also battery life is pretty damn good and it has a led screen which shows which song you are playing and also has control buttons and volume, its very lightweight and all-around a pretty good device.
i've also found this device very useful for a lot of other occasions, seeing as you can plug anything that has the right cable to it, like speakers and what not.
I've had the Moto S9 and S9HD. Sound quality of the S9HD is great. However, I'm on set #4 as sweat kills the control buttons if you sweat heavily. I've heard that the S10s are a little more sweat resistant, but still subject to the same mode of failure. Due to this, and the inferior sound quality of the S10s, I'd pass on them. If you don't sweat heavily, the S9HDs are a good choice.
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Thanks for all the responses. I've really learned a ton from the suggestions in this thread. The Motorola reviews here have matched what i've read on the web. S10 is more sweat resistant but sound quality is severely lacking. The other recommendations also suggest that they will not survive my situation (the humidity in NOLA is brutal year round). Still have not seen anyone with experience with the jaybird gear. The price is almost double compared to the other recommendations. Could that unit have the sound and build quality i'm looking for?
As much as I'd love to get rid of the wires, it seems like the better solution, for me anyway, may be wired earphones.
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Thanks for all the responses. I've really learned a ton from the suggestions in this thread. The Motorola reviews here have matched what i've read on the web. S10 is more sweat resistant but sound quality is severely lacking. The other recommendations also suggest that they will not survive my situation (the humidity in NOLA is brutal year round). Still have not seen anyone with experience with the jaybird gear. The price is almost double compared to the other recommendations. Could that unit have the sound and build quality i'm looking for?
As much as I'd love to get rid of the wires, it seems like the better solution, for me anyway, may be wired earphones.
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I will say my cheap Skullcandy earbuds sound better than the S10 headset I have. My only beef was that they would fall out while I was running.
Sorry if this is a bit late but I have owned both the S9 and the S10. I've had no problems with sweat.
The biggest advantage of these over pretty much all of the alternatives is that you can wear them whilst running. Anything with a cable I found whipped about and the headphone type ones weren't secure enough for my liking.
S10 sound quality isn't great but can be improved by changing the ear buds for some of the larger items which come with the headset. Other than this I like the S10s and they are (otherwise) a step up from the S9s.
I used the jaybirds for a while and i found them far more comfortable than the motos. Quality was good as well.
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Ive had s9, s9-hd, s10, and jf3. s9 was a great headset, survived alot of beating, but quality was so-so. s9-hd had great quality, but lost it after about 6 months, presumably from sweat (I use my headset primarily when i am working around the yard, or riding a motorcycle in the summer, both of which cause me to sweat like a beast). S10 was far less comfortable than the S9 and 9-hd, seemed that the band was much stiffer and it pressed against my ears resulting in me only being able to wear them for about an hour pain free. Additionally, I never saw more than about 6 hours battery life out of any of the motorola products, which is problematic if you ride for 8-10 hours on a saturday trip. I picked up the JF3 in july of last year after the s10 bit the dust in an unfortunate encounter with a truck tire (oops). Sound quality is better than the 3 motorolas by a good bit, and i listen to them turned WAY up often, due to ambient noise from wind (motorcycle) or lawnmower. They also have much better noise canceling characteristics. It takes a bit to get the correct configuration worked out as they come with multiple size and styles of earbuds, however, once all is said and done, I can ride comfortably with them securely in my ears with interstate speed winds hitting me in the face, have plenty of volume and quality to go with it, and the battery life seems to be in the 10-12 hour range. So far no ill effects from perspiration, and ive put alot of sweat on them. Additionally, I had problems with bluetooth communication with the motorolas. I used to leave the phone in a saddlebag prior to having a handlebar mount, and with it behind me like that, the motorolas would often skip and cutout, the jf3 did not do this for the 1 month I had it in the saddlebag (I got a handlebar mount shortly after).
So far its the best bluetooth headset ive owned, and unless something changes drastically, ill run them till they wear out and buy another set just like em. The only downside i can come up with, is that like most bluetooth headsets, they dont fit well under a full face helmet, but that is a general problem with all that i have used, not just these.
I just received my Jaybird JF3 set today. I have to agree that the sound quality is a tad better than my Moto S9HD set. However, the Motos do have a little more bass than the Jaybirds. Haven't used the Jaybirds in the gym yet -- will try them tomorrow. I'm hoping that they withstand sweating better than the Motos. They have a lifetime warranty against sweat damage, so I'm hopeful that they'll last longer than my Motos, which seem to die from sweat exposure after 4-6 months of hard use at the gym.
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rickwood, it's been a little more than a day. So what is your opinion now that you have had enough time to review the headphones? I am trying to find the best and least bothering bluetooth stereo headset there is for running. this seems to be the product to choose, and i look forward to your opinion.
I've been using the Jaybirds for a while now. I can attest that they are indeed sweat proof! This was my primary reason for buying them, so I'm happy. Sound quality and battery life have also been great for use at the gym. I can also lay on my back with them either on a gym bench or in bed without issue (can't do that with the Moto's due to the rigid back piece). Volume level is also acceptable, although the don't go quite as loud as my S9-HDs.
Now for the annoyances:
First, the bass on the S9-HDs is just better. I personally believe that this is due to the Jaybirds inability to seal in my ear properly. Even the largest set of ear pads on the Jaybirds is too small -- about half the size of the pads on the S9-HDs. I called Jaybird to see if they offered a larger set of ear pads, but they don't.
Second, the Jaybirds tend to want to fall out of my ears. This is due to the smaller ear pads, the weight all being concentrated right below the ears, and the fact that unlike the S9-HDs, they don't rely on compression to hold them in securely. I tried all three sets of the pads and the ear clips, but I still have some issues holding them in securely. They're not awful, but they're not as secure as the Moto's.
The controls on the Jaybirds are also not as good as the Moto's. I can advance to the next track just fine, but can't ever seem to get them to play the previous track when I want to. Volume controls work just fine.
Jaybird ships only a very short USB cable with the headphones. This is very annoying. I mean really, how much would it have cost to include a proper wall charger? The connector on the headphones is very small -- not sure if it's proprietary or not, but I think to rectify the situation you'll have to buy a longer cable from Jaybird if they offer one. I've just been using the supplied 1-ft cable and plugging into the USB port on my laptop, but this can be annoying.
I have not used them for calls, so I can't give you any meaningful feedback on that.
All in all I do like the Jaybirds. But if Motorola made a truly sweat proof set of the S9-HDs, they would be my first choice. I still wear my S9-HDs to the gym when I'm doing weights only. But if I'm doing cardio too, I use the Jaybirds.
One other annoyance with both sets (but this is phone related). On my Atrix, bluetooth range was fantastic. With my new Galaxy S III, range is much worse. Not a problem when running, but really annoying in the weight room if I walk behind a weight rack or machine and my phone is sitting on the other side and the music cuts out. Oh well. Sometimes I miss my Atrix (but my daughter is now enjoying it).
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Can anyone recommend a good set of noise canceling headphones? I use some regular Bose freestyle ESR buds currently. I want something to cancel out the obnoxious people I'm around at school all day. I go for engineering and I hate it when you have find a quiet place to work during the day. I was thinking shut getting the Bose QC 25 over ESR headphones because I've read good things about them, but I wanted to see what other people would recommend. I'm not a big audiophile as long as it sounds as good as my Chevy l current headphones I'll be happy. I was thinking about something like on ear headphones because they would probably work better?
Thanks in advance.
I have the Bose QC15 (over the ear) noise cancelling headphones and they ARE amazing (The QC25's have replaced them). They are a little bigger, but they do a great job of noise cancelling.
Now, if you want an IN EAR version .. don't rule out the Bose QC20i's. I have those as well and they are equally amazing but because they are "in ear" they are smaller and a little more discreet.
I personally love the Bose hardware, so it just comes down to size and what you are looking for. I use the QC20i more, but that is because they are more portable. YMMV
I just bought these: http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-NC-Cancelling-Headphones/dp/B00A4A3SNW
I don't have them yet, so I can't comment on how good they are, but I have always liked Harman sound.
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I have the Bose QC15 (over the ear) noise cancelling headphones and they ARE amazing (The QC25's have replaced them). They are a little bigger, but they do a great job of noise cancelling.
Now, if you want an IN EAR version .. don't rule out the Bose QC20i's. I have those as well and they are equally amazing but because they are "in ear" they are smaller and a little more discreet.
I personally love the Bose hardware, so it just comes down to size and what you are looking for. I use the QC20i more, but that is because they are more portable. YMMV
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If they had an in ear version with android controls I would probably get that over the regular headphones. I might wait and see if they update it by next year (15 days or so).... The QC25's are big but I feel like they might sound better because of the bigger driver. Then again I am used to my smaller Bose freestyle in ear ones so I may not notice.
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If they had an in ear version with android controls I would probably get that over the regular headphones. I might wait and see if they update it by next year (15 days or so).... The QC25's are big but I feel like they might sound better because of the bigger driver. Then again I am used to my smaller Bose freestyle in ear ones so I may not notice.
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I've had mine since just after they were released (10/13) and I opted for the iPhone version. Since the ONLY difference is that the Android/Windows versions are missing the control buttons, my though was this:
they are the same price and having the buttons will make no difference to Android; However, If I do connect them to my iPod, then I can use the control buttons.
My logic has served me as I use them on my nano at work quite a bit .. and I am able to use the control buttons and pressing the buttons when connected to Android .. does nothing.
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I've had mine since just after they were released (10/13) and I opted for the iPhone version. Since the ONLY difference is that the Android/Windows versions are missing the control buttons, my though was this:
they are the same price and having the buttons will make no difference to Android; However, If I do connect them to my iPod, then I can use the control buttons.
My logic has served me as I use them on my nano at work quite a bit .. and I am able to use the control buttons and pressing the buttons when connected to Android .. does nothing.
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Yeah only the middle button works on mine. I know it has to do with how they set up the resistors inside of the headphones. I'm still debating on which ones I want.
Do both the in ear and over ear cancel noise just as well for those who have both?
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Yeah only the middle button works on mine. I know it has to do with how they set up the resistors inside of the headphones. I'm still debating on which ones I want.
Do both the in ear and over ear cancel noise just as well for those who have both?
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The active noise cancelling seems to be equally as good in-ear or over-ear. You will get a better passive noise reduction with the over-ear ones due to the fact that it covers the whole ear.
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The active noise cancelling seems to be equally as good in-ear or over-ear. You will get a better passive noise reduction with the over-ear ones due to the fact that it covers the whole ear.
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I need to test those out at a boss store. I really like my ear buds, and I used to have seen OE2's before I broke them so a change is nice.
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/headphones/M4U-2-Headphones
We sell these at my work and they are very good sounding and great at noise cancelling.
bose QC 25
i have the QC25 and i love them. so comfortable! and the active noise canceling is amazing. I am also an engineering student and i can have it on even at the loudest part of the library and not bothered by the people around me. I wear them hours at a time and my ears doesn't get fatique like i would with the in ear headphones. definitely worth the investment over the Beats.
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i have the QC25 and i love them. so comfortable! and the active noise canceling is amazing. I am also an engineering student and i can have it on even at the loudest part of the library and not bothered by the people around me. I wear them hours at a time and my ears doesn't get fatique like i would with the in ear headphones. definitely worth the investment over the Beats.
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That's good news, I've always liked Bose headphones and their QC line is perfect fit what I need. In going to test then out before I buy them to see if I want the QC 25. Or QC 20's.
Try westones. The triple drivers.
Shamu
I use my bose qc15 when im at home and i use monster inspiration when on train and busses. They are good if you like bass heavy music.
I just bought the QC 25's and they live up to the great reviews. I can't hear my TV when its extremely loud if Im playing music. This is the perfect way to say dont bother me
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I just bought the QC 25's and they live up to the great reviews. I can't hear my TV when its extremely loud if Im playing music. This is the perfect way to say dont bother me
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Good. I am using my hearing aids bluetooth paired to my phone. Excellent noise cancellation on those Phonaks. For 7K they darn well better be.
I wonder, though, if the wired sound from the Bose is better than the bluetooth. I would need a good equalizer as I have severe hearing loss on mid & higher frequencies.
Your thoughts?
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Good. I am using my hearing aids bluetooth paired to my phone. Excellent noise cancellation on those Phonaks. For 7K they darn well better be.
I wonder, though, if the wired sound from the Bose is better than the bluetooth. I would need a good equalizer as I have severe hearing loss on mid & higher frequencies.
Your thoughts?
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What do you mean for 7k? The Bose QC 25's are 299$
Also I have mild hearing loss from being in the military. (I was am engineer so demolition was my thing) I think these sound great, and I have 2 other pairs of Bose headphones. I'm not partial to their brand, but after trying others I always come back to Bose. They are wired and I don't mind that at all. The cord is completely detachable and they have a great carrying case. I'm not by any means an audiophile so I can't tell you how the highs and lows sound comparatively speaking. The sound is very even and clean and much better than the POS beats that I have tried. I can post some pictures if you want.
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What do you mean for 7k? The Bose QC 25's are 299$
Also I have mild hearing loss from being in the military. (I was am engineer so demolition was my thing) I think these sound great, and I have 2 other pairs of Bose headphones. I'm not partial to their brand, but after trying others I always come back to Bose. They are wired and I don't mind that at all. The cord is completely detachable and they have a great carrying case. I'm not by any means an audiophile so I can't tell you how the highs and lows sound comparatively speaking. The sound is very even and clean and much better than the POS beats that I have tried. I can post some pictures if you want.
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The Phonak HA's were 7K. Just need to decide if the QC 25 wired sound would be that $300 better /more convenient than the bluetooth link to my hearing aids.
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The Phonak HA's were 7K. Just need to decide if the QC 25 wired sound would be that $300 better /more convenient than the bluetooth link to my hearing aids.
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I would say give it a try the worst that could happen is that they don't work for you. BB has them locally soi would give or a try
If you're really interested in the QC-25's, remember that you can customize the colors of them too (for a price of course). Get them painted to match your style. I've seen the paint jobs in person, and it's top notch. Not to mention it's done by a Bose partner, so they have Bose's warranty as well.
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I would say give it a try the worst that could happen is that they don't work for you. BB has them locally soi would give or a try
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OK, guess it's worth a try.
Thanks, guys.
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If you're really interested in the QC-25's, remember that you can customize the colors of them too (for a price of course). Get them painted to match your style. I've seen the paint jobs in person, and it's top notch. Not to mention it's done by a Bose partner, so they have Bose's warranty as well.
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Does anyone have it? How's the quality for $20? I can't seem to find any reviews on YouTube
I just received mine yesterday so I haven't had a chance to fully test them. Initial thoughts are for $20 and USB-C, I'm satisfied. I mainly used them to listen to podcasts today and voices were clear.
I can't attest to the bass on these yet since I didn't listen to much music. I'm not expecting any miracles but I imagine they will be decent (considering the cost). I think they might lack that deeper punch of the bass but I also haven't messed with the equalizer too much (other than setting to Type-C Bullets and just a quick custom equalizer).
I do like the fact they had volume up and down on them. I didn't have any complaints when making a call using them from the person on the other line and I heard them clearly.
They feel like pretty good quality to me and fit my needs. I'm not a super audiophile like some but I definitely feel like they are worth the cost. Hope that helps.
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Does anyone have it? How's the quality for $20? I can't seem to find any reviews on YouTube
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I ordered a set with my 6t. Finally got a chance to listen to some Tool today. the album Aenma is my go-to audio test. It sounds snobby, but coming from Axon 7, the sound is just okay, not great, but for $20 it is serviceable, and thats after adjusting the EQ settings, etc of the phone. If you're looking to be blown away by the sound or the loose mention of a "DAC", you may be disappointed. It is an okay soundstage. Volume is acceptable and clarity is okay, but ultimately, if you are an audiophile or really are in to HiFi music, you probably own a great set of IEM's already.
I listen at about 60% volume typically. When i pushed up towards 80-90%, the sound had some bleeding of highs, but no crackle. The soundstage is much more balanced at 60-70% volume. Ultimately, they will bleed over and the lows will bottom out at 80-90% volume, but hey, for $20, you really cannot go wrong.
The more i listen do different styles/sounds, the more i realize these are rather versatile. i have edited this post a couple of times already and will continue to do so if i feel there is something else to add.
The earbuds, much like the phone, are a great value for the coin, but if you are discerning, you will notice they are $20, not $200 earbuds, but for the price, you cannot go wrong. I recently purchased a set of $20 Sony earbuds for the Axon, and i can honestly say, comparing apples to apples, the One Plus Bullets usb c are a much better sound than those, and the Axon has a real DAC. You would be hard pressed to find a better $20 set of earbuds.
Does anyone know if these work with Google Assistant and/or Google Translate? I'm on the fence about these and the Pixel USB-C buds.
Thanks
It works with Google assistant when keep pushing the middle button.
I have also wireless bullets and I think that type c have more bass.
Anyway I believe that is fair for the price.
By the way with viper4android we can do whatever we want.