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I recently purchased a Nordic Track 9500 Elite Pro. This bad boy has a 10" android tablet built in. They really don't want you messing with the android part much, but I am sure there are plenty of other users out there like me that want to do more!
This is my first post so I am unable to show the pictures via the link. Hopefully you can copy and past the text to view the images. I will try to repost on my website so it all flows.
I don't see where a post like this would go, I am not sure if at some point it would gain it's own device forum... That would be exciting. So for now I will post here. I will also post my initial findings for others in the community that may want to purchase this treadmill and can't find any information regarding the built in Android Tablet with WiFi.
This image shows the version information. From what I can tell it looks like they purchase an APAD from someone and then stick it inside of their device. They also must have wrote some special drivers and software to interface with the equipment and hardware. I was very happy to see a mainstream current android OS.
Android OS 2.2
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Here are the pre-installed apps. Pretty basic. (note: I was able to find an APK and install Last.FM that wasn't included) Also a major bummer to see was that there wasn't a market application.
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This is the typical workout screen you see.
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I also noticed that the device doesn't have very much memory. This could be due to the built in applications taking up so much space. It only had about 57MB of internal memory free, but it had a built in 2GB SD Card. I have not gotten to the point where I have needed to take it apart yet to see if there is a replaceable SD card. I may wait another 5 years for my warranty to end to do that.
I have tried to install some apps but have not had very much luck. The only app that was I was able to install was the Last.FM.
I tried the follow apps, and they didn't install:
1. Market
2. Angry Birds
3. Pandora
Other disappointments:
1. Designed to not be in the Android Interface. They have an application that runs, and makes it tricky to get to the android desktop. It takes about 3 clicks to get from the main workout screen back to the Android Desktop.
2. The screen is not capacitive, it is resistive. I don't know how much more I need to say about that.
3. Only 3 buttons. Back, Menu, Home. Home takes you to their software not the android home screen. Long press on home does nothing.
4. When i go to the desktop the Time is all over the place. I have tried changing settings in every spot possible but something is telling it what time to think it is, occasionally it is correct... Just don't get it.
Even with the disappointments this thing is sweet. I wish i could install more apps, stream videos from a PC over the WiFi connection and stream music from a PC over the WiFi connection. Maybe with the help of the community we will figure some of these items out... Or I will be the only one who has this that knows about this website!
ntsteele,
How is your experience up to now with your 9500? I am looking at getting the c1250, which is the same as the 9500, but with a smaller motor and no decilne. Is the 10" screen worth it? The rep at Nordictrack told me the only differcence between the 7" screen is the web browser, the google maps display, and some basic apps. But overall the workout system is the same as the 7' display of the 1750 commercial and that you can view the google maps by logging in on ifit.com. Thanks for the info and screen shots.
iFit Android App
Have you or has anyone else been able to pull the apk files off of the NordicTrack Elite 9500 Treadmill. I would be interested to see if it works on any adroid phone to view the menu system.
I played with this today at Google IO. The rep said that the integrated tablet was rev 1 and that they wanted to eventually let users connect their own devices.
what do you need to press to get to the android home screen?
Where I work at there is a Proform Trailrunner 4.0 treadmill that has 10" Android tablet screen. From what I have been told nordic track and proform are made by the same manufacture or something. It was returned because of a broken display unit. Of course I wasn't going to let them throw the old one away so they let me keep it. I trashed the main display and now I have the 10" tablet but cannot power it because the treadmill doesn't operate without a magnetic key. How could I power this thing and see if it works?
I got the new incline trainer x9i which has the 10 inch android interface. I am interested to get in and try installing apps as you have but I am unable to even get to the android home screen. The only time I see it is when I turn the machine on and it is booting up, the screen comes up for a few seconds to where I can hit on the applications button and see what is on it. But within a second after I see the apps it automatically gets routed into the machine exercise interface and I have not figured how to get back to the android home screen from there. How did you do it? It would sure be nice to install a different browser. I hate the fact that I cannot create my own shortcuts. Anyway, love the machine.
How to get to the Android Home Screen
Any luck finding out how to get to the Android Home Screen? I am wanting to do that also. I was able to get to it one time accidentally, but haven't figure out how to stop the machine interface from loading since.
Home Screen
Ok, same question. I just got a C2150 which is a similar model to the 9500. Slightly smaller motor and belt, but same basic thing with the 10" tablet. I believe it's capacitive now, but still not great as far as that goes.
I too have hit the setup icon when it's booting and it goes to the Android setup screen for a second and then continues to boot into the Nordictrack IFit proprietary stuff.
So I can't believe the posts with the images and no explanation of how you got there? Please share with the rest of us.
Also, my console has a USB connector at the top of the thing. Any idea what if anything that'll let me do?
Thanks!
Anyone figure this out? Seems a shame to have a 10' screen and not be able to install apps on it. There must be some button combination that the Icon service team would use to stop the auto load of the iFit interface.
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I took the tablet apart to see what information can be gathered. Apparently, HANNSTAR (TAIWAN) manufactures the board (HANNSTAR J MV-7); which uses a Samsung ARM8 CPU(5PV210AH-A0 1044); has 512MB; and a 4GB SANDISK FLASH (SDIN2C2-4G).
I haven't been able to find sufficient info to track a compatible ROM, yet I can't imagine for the life of me that HANNSTAR would design this just for Nordic. I am posting some pics hoping that someone might be able to id the hardware, which in turn might help point to a more fruitful search for a workable ROM.
Try to upload pics but not sure if it worked. It's late, and I can't figure out how to do it smoothly yet.
I'm gonna do another bump. I have a similar treadmill (or maybe the exact same one, I lost the the manual with product name). It is of the X9i series and when I saw it in the store, I had to go for it. I was a bit irritated to see that you are locked to the iFit application and you cannot return to the launcher. I need a male to male USB cable to see if I can get a bit of ADB on it.
From the (crappy) performance of it, I can tell it has about 512 MB RAM, a dated CPU clocked at around 600-800MHz, the screen looks like a crappy TFT display at 1280x700. Lastly, this thing runs Froyo. Mine features a full USB port and an Audio in port. Not much to screw around with. Downloads are disabled in the browser, and the Menu key does nothing.
I think something can be done though. The application that controls the treadmill can't crash as it is, and if it ever does FC, the motor shouldn't stop. NordicTrack doesn't have a recovery image up for some reason (thanks, NordicTrack -_-) so that's even less to work with.
Nevertheless, something can be done. It's not really a fun thing for an Android enthusiast to pick up an Android device with such dated hardware (the tredmill itself, as just tredmill is amazing).. Plus, it was $2,100 at Sears.
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here is a video of the Treadmill and the board;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyf6MHIefk
USB and Audio in is on the right side of the console.
I've had my Nordictrack 9500 Pro for about a year now. Still working well for the most part (I do have messed up deck tension adjuster that I need to call support about).
Would love to be able to unlock the Android device to at least install Netflix, Pandora, etc.
I have had one over the air firmware upgrade that went pretty smoothly. Was hoping more updates would come from Nordictrack, but it has been a long time since that one.
Has anyone else noticed that the Speed Calibration utility under the iFit controls says that it isn't enabled yet? Maybe there's hope for future updates.
fanVrARCHITECT
Greetings,
I have been following this thread as a 9500 owner as well, and looking at what has been posted and see if there is any follow up.
1.) like everyone else what startup combinations may have disabled Nordic Tracks proprietary software.
2.) the usb socket on the top of the console, has anyone had anyluck attempting a usb male to male connection on a laptop? If so what has been tried?
3.) any idea of maybe porting something over via the Ifit updates or account? I noticed the HDvideo inside of the program is pretty descent from what I've seen, and looks like the video plays in the center of main app..just a thought.
I'm looking at getting the male to male usb cable and trying to interface it with the below. .. at least curious if the cable will talk, and most likely this unit is not root so view only but maybe a start if it works.
//www*howtogeek*com/howto/42491/how-to-remote-view-and-control-your-android-phone/
Cheers,
devmo
Did anyone figure out how to get android home screen????
I read somebody was able to email themselves an apk and install it? The tablet enables sideloading? Ding ding ding! I'm going to try sideloading launcherpro or any other replacement launcher to attempt to hijack the home screen
Update: Didn't work on my c2150's tablet. Bastards.... I did however get my c2150's to boot into "safe mode" which I have no idea what that entails. While it was powering on, I held down home and back I believe was the combo.
Update: SUCESS!!! So by booting into "safe" mode, you can hit the preferences launcher while the device is booting to interrupt the ifit loading. From there, go enable unknown sources. Then launch the browser and google "z4 apk" and download it and run it. Did permanent root on mine and it worked.
ENJOY
I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.
EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
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I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.
EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
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Sorry - can you tell me the exact steps involved here. How do I get to safe mode and then what? I tried Home Back while powering on and it still goes to the ifit screen
You know I'm really not sure what trick it is to make it stay. I had good luck getting it to stay in android rubbing home/back/menu while it booted and as soon as I saw the android home screen, hit the preferences launcher and then grabbed the top menubar and half pulled it down. All I know is that when you get it to stick in android, its always in safe mode which is triggered by some combination of those buttons on boot. Even then it will boot into iFit, but if you go to the settings first, in safe mode, it wont exit that screen.
Nordictrack commercial 2150 Android Safemode
Very simple folks. Turn treadmill on and once you see ANDROID appear in the center of the screen, begin pressing the dashes button that is between the home and back buttons on the console. Not sure if holding down works any better. An "unable to load widget" will be seen in middle of screen once the I-FIT software has stopped and safe mode will appear at the lower left hand corner. You'll then be able to check out the various Android options etc for your tablet. Be careful in editing anything unless you know what you are doing! Wouldn't want to brick your treadmill unnecessarily. It took awhile to find the key to safe mode access, due to limited info out there, but I hope users will continue to make some progress on exploiting this device and maybe we'll be able to use it to our liking. I would like to stream my dish television to the tablet like I do on my i phone or i pad. Being able to install the dish app via google app store is what I'm looking forward to. I want to be able to watch tv on my treadmill while exercising. Please keep this thread going! I'm sure that future software updates may allow for a better user interface. The challenge is certainly in the storage capabilities in the tablet itself and the sd card inside.
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Around last June, my family has gotten a TV box set only providing Chinese content, but boy have I had a hard time with this device! Although there is an app store for that box, there aren't that many apps that I can download aside for a few games and other productivity apps. From whatever technical information I could get scattered across the software installed, here's what I got:
Android version: 4.4.2 KitKat
Model: S8G40
RAM: ? 1GB
Internal Storage: ? 8GB
Languages installed: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, English
Connectivity: HDMI (the main output), microSD card slot, USB 3.0, 3.5mm audio-video plug, Ethernet
Input: Remote control (the menu key is seldom used with the custom software), USB devices
CPU: possibly ARMv7
Power source: 12V DC, 1A
It appears as a black box with rounded corners, similar to the Amazon Fire TV or Apple TV, but with "iTalkBB" engraved on top.
While trying to install the select apps, I did get the popup for local APK installation, which tells me that "allow unknown sources" is turned on. There is also neither the Play Store nor other Google programs installed onto that box by default. The built-in app store did tell me the following:
ADB: closed
Root: closed
Without the stock settings app, ADB can't be turned on from the device.
Some popup dialogs I got indicated the set box software is based on AOSP, but none of that was helpful to my goal of installing any foreign APKs. Although some parts got translated when the language was set to "English", not all of the software, especially the custom ones, were so. I still had some parts remain in Chinese.
Moreover, I tried some USB hardware with it, and they work. A USB mouse puts a cursor on a screen, but isn't useful with most of the custom software except the AOSP parts I occasionally saw. A USB keyboard with extra shortcuts worked, with the following buttons working:
Home -> home screen
Volume buttons, including mute
Suspend key -> puts the device to sleep; when powered on again, the full boot cycle is performed
Music -> opens the stock music app, displaying no files even with external storage connected, and the only non-custom app I successfully opened up.
Alt/Meta/Windows key + Tab -> Brings up the 2.x style task switcher. It is not possible for me to close apps with it.
Screenshot keys work; I get a screenshot taken, but it is then impossible to view or delete the screenshot afterwards as they could be stored on the non-accessible internal storage.
USB storage is mounted, and a custom file manager limited to photos, music, and video can be used to access one. This file manager proved useless to me in trying to get outside APKs installed.
USB hubs can attach more than one of these or the following at once to the set box.
I even took the set box apart once, and got to see its hardware (specific hardware can't be listed as there's no way to get an app on there to tell me that info. There seemed to be no hardware button for resetting the device nor a recovery mode. [if needed, I can send images of the hardware]
All in all, that set box IMO is really secure, with JTAG hardware possibly being the only way I can achieve customization and more outside of the intended activities (the set box could also be leased hardware, of which then my family won't own the set box, possibly turning modifications to the set box into forbidden activities). My situation is an obscure one; the company providing the set box is probably not well-known, and that hurts my chances of being able to obtain the ability to customize the device. If nobody can help, I'll simply stay away from such software-limited hardware next time.
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Around last June, my family has gotten a TV box set only providing Chinese content, but boy have I had a hard time with this device! Although there is an app store for that box, there aren't that many apps that I can download aside for a few games and other productivity apps. From whatever technical information I could get scattered across the software installed, here's what I got:
Android version: 4.4.2 KitKat
Model: S8G40
RAM: ? 1GB
Internal Storage: ? 8GB
Languages installed: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, English
Connectivity: HDMI (the main output), microSD card slot, USB 3.0, 3.5mm audio-video plug, Ethernet
Input: Remote control (the menu key is seldom used with the custom software), USB devices
CPU: possibly ARMv7
Power source: 12V DC, 1A
It appears as a black box with rounded corners, similar to the Amazon Fire TV or Apple TV, but with "iTalkBB" engraved on top.
While trying to install the select apps, I did get the popup for local APK installation, which tells me that "allow unknown sources" is turned on. There is also neither the Play Store nor other Google programs installed onto that box by default. The built-in app store did tell me the following:
ADB: closed
Root: closed
Without the stock settings app, ADB can't be turned on from the device.
Some popup dialogs I got indicated the set box software is based on AOSP, but none of that was helpful to my goal of installing any foreign APKs. Although some parts got translated when the language was set to "English", not all of the software, especially the custom ones, were so. I still had some parts remain in Chinese.
Moreover, I tried some USB hardware with it, and they work. A USB mouse puts a cursor on a screen, but isn't useful with most of the custom software except the AOSP parts I occasionally saw. A USB keyboard with extra shortcuts worked, with the following buttons working:
Home -> home screen
Volume buttons, including mute
Suspend key -> puts the device to sleep; when powered on again, the full boot cycle is performed
Music -> opens the stock music app, displaying no files even with external storage connected, and the only non-custom app I successfully opened up.
Alt/Meta/Windows key + Tab -> Brings up the 2.x style task switcher. It is not possible for me to close apps with it.
Screenshot keys work; I get a screenshot taken, but it is then impossible to view or delete the screenshot afterwards as they could be stored on the non-accessible internal storage.
USB storage is mounted, and a custom file manager limited to photos, music, and video can be used to access one. This file manager proved useless to me in trying to get outside APKs installed.
USB hubs can attach more than one of these or the following at once to the set box.
I even took the set box apart once, and got to see its hardware (specific hardware can't be listed as there's no way to get an app on there to tell me that info. There seemed to be no hardware button for resetting the device nor a recovery mode. [if needed, I can send images of the hardware]
All in all, that set box IMO is really secure, with JTAG hardware possibly being the only way I can achieve customization and more outside of the intended activities (the set box could also be leased hardware, of which then my family won't own the set box, possibly turning modifications to the set box into forbidden activities). My situation is an obscure one; the company providing the set box is probably not well-known, and that hurts my chances of being able to obtain the ability to customize the device. If nobody can help, I'll simply stay away from such software-limited hardware next time.
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You will be very limited on what you can do with a China based deviced. Mostly because Google doesn't have any agreement with China for Google products like the play store. They also tend to use modified versions of Android that are set to lie about internals and other things. I would stay away from them. I can guess that the price is what got you to buy it but remember you get what you pay for.
This is one that is leased similar like AT&T UVerse tv boxes, in which I get to use it for the period that I pay service, so if my family ends service with ITalkBB, we may have to return the box to the company. It may not be like I get to own that box forever.
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This is one that is leased similar like AT&T UVerse tv boxes, in which I get to use it for the period that I pay service, so if my family ends service with ITalkBB, we may have to return the box to the company. It may not be like I get to own that box forever.
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And this is why I dont use any of these types of boxes. They are great gimmics for now but in the end useless for me.
If it is leased and you do end up modding it you will be charged for the full price and if they find out they can make you pay the rest of your period and cancel it on you.
Ill be honest Android based TV will fade away just like smart tvs are starting to.
Maybe next time, when I get an opportunity, I'll look for a TV box that won't be this limited; how come you say that Android TV is fading away?
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Maybe next time, when I get an opportunity, I'll look for a TV box that won't be this limited; how come you say that Android TV is fading away?
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Its really just a gimmic and 90% of people have no real use for a smart TV mainly when most have a gaming system hooked up to their TV that does all the same things. Not to mention that all it takes is them to decide to block rooted TV from even using their services which will happen due to the piracy level in android. Its like the 3d TVs. a cool idea but not really practical. its the same thing with Apple TV.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-living-room-flop-for-google-do-you-have-one/
So I came into possession of a commercial grade advertising kiosk (Nintendo Amiibo Display) that runs an Android OS 4.1.1. The device is setup to auto load the "AmiiboFrameWork.apk" package installed. The model of the system is DucoTech D185-ACA-720. I can access basic Android settings menus through a special key combination. Mainly system information, network setup, and volume controls. There is a menu that says App Install and gives the option of installing APKs from SD card or USB with a file structure of USB:\APKFiles\ or SD Card:\ApkFiles\. However no matter how I layout my file structure or name my APKs following that structure nothing appears in this menu to install. However There is a media tab for photos with a similar structure and photos I put on the card do show up. What I'm trying to figure out is how either install APKs, or access the base android system so I can customize the system to run custom apps I plan on making for it. However I want to retain the original AmiiboFrameWork APK or the whole OS so I can restore the system later if I want.
Now what I have tried is plugging it into my PC via the USB-OTG port while on, putting APKs in various file structures and naming conventions, booting it with my PC connected via OTG port, tried to trick my way into other menus through keyboard and settings menu tricks (similar to how people use to bypass lock screen security through menus).
Results:
1. OTG to PC while on: Device shows up as 2 USB 2.0 Flash drives in device manager. The drives appear in my computer but aren't accessible. ADB doesn't see it as an android device.
2. APKs on usb: Nothing shows up in the menu regardless of my naming convention or file structure.
3. Boot device while attached to PC via OTG port: My computer detects it as an NES Classic (previously installed the driver to mod my classic). This leads me to think its an Allwinner device or similar since that is what the driver was made for I believe? ADB still doesn't see it. This might be my best bet to get in.
4. Menus: Options are very limited and I wasn't able to access anything valuable aside from Install APK, Transfer Media, and Set startup APK.
5. Tapping build number: Tapping the build number in settings any number of times doesn't activate the developer mode options. The prompt doesn't even appear for it.
If anyone can assist in trying to gain access to this system, or even figure out the file structure so I can just install my own APKs like I want that would be great. Any ideas on where to look, what to try, and so on is greatly appreciated.
Here are some photos of the main board just in case
Any new updates to this? I made the mistake of uninstalling the Amiibo Framework APK so now all I can do is see the settings menu with no ability to install any APKS. Copying media files over does work though.
hedburnr said:
Any new updates to this? I made the mistake of uninstalling the Amiibo Framework APK so now all I can do is see the settings menu with no ability to install any APKS. Copying media files over does work though.
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IDK what to say man other than what in God's name made u think framework.res needed to be pulled. It's gone man barring the original firmware and itself install method
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Any new updates to this? I made the mistake of uninstalling the Amiibo Framework APK so now all I can do is see the settings menu with no ability to install any APKS. Copying media files over does work though.
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I work with Ducos! In fact there's an Amiibo kiosk a few feet from me here in our offices
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IDK what to say man other than what in God's name made u think framework.res needed to be pulled. It's gone man barring the original firmware and itself install method
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AmiiboFramework doesn't have anything to do with the "framework.res", Nintendo just called the app the "AmiiboFramework"
They only install APKs with a specific package name in a specific folder on your USB device / SD Card (com.general.mediaplayer.player). Unfortunately Nintendo used a different folder than us, and I don't recall what it was. You can go into a "normal" Android screen using a special procedure if the AmiiboFramework app is installed, but it should work without it too:
- Wait for the Loading screen to appear
- Begin to press the CSR and Setup buttons together, quickly alternating between them. Repeat until the CSR appears
- After the CSR appears, leaving the screen open for an extended period of time will cause the Amiibo Display Framework to re-appear
- If Alt+Tab is used, be sure to return to the CSR before returning to any other app, or the CSR will reboot the player
Alt+Tab refers to using a USB keyboard, after you have the CSR up you can exit with it.
They're really not great hardware for general usage.
selaliadobor said:
I work with Ducos! In fact there's an Amiibo kiosk a few feet from me here in our offices
AmiiboFramework doesn't have anything to do with the "framework.res", Nintendo just called the app the "AmiiboFramework"
They only install APKs with a specific package name in a specific folder on your USB device / SD Card (com.general.mediaplayer.player). Unfortunately Nintendo used a different folder than us, and I don't recall what it was. You can go into a "normal" Android screen using a special procedure if the AmiiboFramework app is installed, but it should work without it too:
- Wait for the Loading screen to appear
- Begin to press the CSR and Setup buttons together, quickly alternating between them. Repeat until the CSR appears
- After the CSR appears, leaving the screen open for an extended period of time will cause the Amiibo Display Framework to re-appear
- If Alt+Tab is used, be sure to return to the CSR before returning to any other app, or the CSR will reboot the player
Alt+Tab refers to using a USB keyboard, after you have the CSR up you can exit with it.
They're really not great hardware for general usage.
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Ohh, I tried to call and they wouldn't answer any of my questions lol. Is it possible to get any documentation on it? I'm sure Nintendo did their own setup, but having original documentation is a good step forward for what we have now. I'd love to setup my own configuration on it even if the hardware is meh.
Enmity said:
Ohh, I tried to call and they wouldn't answer any of my questions lol. Is it possible to get any documentation on it? I'm sure Nintendo did their own setup, but having original documentation is a good step forward for what we have now. I'd love to setup my own configuration on it even if the hardware is meh.
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There isn't much more documentation than what I mentioned unfortunately. The people who you'd get in a call definitely don't know anything about them (I don't think Nintendo made the AmiiboFramework app in-house either). If you want to repurpose it, you can try getting into the CSR and going into the normal Android Launcher. Try connecting over ADB and force-stopping any process with the letters "csr" in it's name
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Enmity said:
Ohh, I tried to call and they wouldn't answer any of my questions lol. Is it possible to get any documentation on it? I'm sure Nintendo did their own setup, but having original documentation is a good step forward for what we have now. I'd love to setup my own configuration on it even if the hardware is meh.
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There isn't much more documentation than what I mentioned unfortunately. The people who you'd get in a call definitely don't know anything about them (I don't think Nintendo made the AmiiboFramework app in-house either). If you want to repurpose it, you can try getting into the CSR and going into the normal Android Launcher. Try connecting over ADB and force-stopping any process with the letters "csr" in it's name
To connect to ADB use a USB mini cable on the "USB OTG" port and ClockworkMod's Universal ADB Driver
I have a few devices similar to this. They are duco DT156-AS4-1080. I was wanting to repurpose them as video players. The devices are wiped of content and load into a main menu. There is an option to exit to administrator, though it asks for a password. I dumped the partitions and tried to look through the binaries, but am unable to come up with anything. I can get into superSU and then exit to playstore, but then some type of watchdog kicks me back to the duco menu. Any help appreciated.
er0ck said:
I have a few devices similar to this. They are duco DT156-AS4-1080. I was wanting to repurpose them as video players. The devices are wiped of content and load into a main menu. There is an option to exit to administrator, though it asks for a password. I dumped the partitions and tried to look through the binaries, but am unable to come up with anything. I can get into superSU and then exit to playstore, but then some type of watchdog kicks me back to the duco menu. Any help appreciated.
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Just uninstall com.general.mediaplayer.* (anything that starts with that package name) and you should have a normal device
I DID IT! Working tablet
So the story is yesterday I found an Amiibo display at my apartment dumpster where people put stuff they don't want that still works, I nabbed it with the intention of salvaging the "monitor." Judging by the hammer-marks on the acrylic enclosure, and pry marks on the metal cage that held the power supplies for the led strips and the tablet I assume somebody took it home, got frustrated by the locks and screws after some prying, and just busted in the acrylic window to get to the floor model Amiibos.
I cracked it open, and after some fun with a butane torch to melt the acrylic around the screws open (damn security hex) was surprised to find that the "monitor" had a usb dongle plugged into it. I plugged it into my station and found it was a 2.4/5 GHZ wifi dongle.
All code here is from Windows power shell since I don't like to dual boot my main gaming rig. Usually I just use the Bash on Ubuntu on Windows developer option for stuff like this, but I didn't know if the fact I was using Windows usb drivers to connect to this would cause problems and I wanted one fewer step to troubleshoot if I had issues. Forgive me penguin for I have sinned.
I found the item number on the back of it and after some googling found it was an android device. Score!
I plugged the tablet in and it went into an Amiibo advertisement kiosk mode.
After about 8 hours I now have a limited (but functional!) giant Android tablet.
To any future adventurers I am making a guide to get you up and running quickly.
I followed selaliadobor's instructions:
To connect to ADB use a USB mini cable on the "USB OTG" port and ClockworkMod's Universal ADB Driver
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As well as pressing CSR and Setup to get into the settings screen. This was interesting, but ultimately didn't do much. However using
Code:
./adb shell logcat >> log.txt
and waiting for it to reboot from the csr menu led me to find (with some help from my engineer father) that /system/app/CSR_A003_20160304_BT.apk was the culprit of the restarts.
This was solved with
Code:
./adb shell rm /system/app/CSR_A003_20160304_BT.apk
From there I was stuck. But then I discovered: THE CSR SETTINGS MENU IS NOT THE REAL ANDROID SETTINGS MENU. To get to the real android settings menu use this:
Code:
./adb shell am start -a android.settings.SETTINGS
This allows you to do a factory reset!
However when it reboots the default launcher is stripped of important features like back/home/running apps, keyboard, a launcher etc. I sideloaded the following apps:
Chrome Browser
Microsoft Arrow Launcher (I originally used Nova but it was too much a ram hog to be useful)
Multiling Keyboard (I originally used Swiftkey, but it too was taking up too much ram)
WebTube (stripped down youTube frontend)
Soft Keys (so I had a home and back button, the running apps button still doesn't work :'( )
First post so no links ;(
imgur .com/dGAOmoM
This is what it looks like after boot. I may also have an affinity for Amiibos.
imgur .com/uQ8u7js
Classic.
Quick note: This device doesn't support google play services, so no hulu, official youtube, netflix unfortunately. Try as I might I haven't found a solution.
i bought a box of these units a while back from the carboot and wanted to use them in our coffee shop were opening, i too didnt have much luck with them then i saw this thread, i know abit about computers but never messed with android, we basically wanted to use them for what they are used for now for displaying changing menus and advertising etc, i downloaded the clockworkmods adb, now how to enter the "./adb shell logcat >> log.txt" etc, presumably i just connect the otg port to the pc (win10) run the clockworkmod program then i use commandpromt? i did try it but i couldnt get it to work, do i have to put the android device into a mode like csr? any help would be appreciated?
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i got to the settings menu but it is only temporary i am wanting it to be like a regular tablet where can i get a rom to do that? to flash it so it will function like a galaxy tab 3 or so, as i would love to use my DT101-ASA-800 like a normal tablet with a keyboard and mouse. any help would be welcomed. as the factory reset doesn't let it work any different it keeps going straight to CSR settings.
so stuck... my head hurts
so i can not get my Model DT185-ACA-720 to connect to my pc..... ok it connects and a K: and F: drive appear but I cant access them. I managed to get .apk files to show up and transfer to the 12gb storage on the tablet but i cant access the storage on the tablet... im so lost... I downloaded the universal driver and ADB but both changed nothing... If anyone has any advice or updates im all ears since I basically destroyed the Kiosk to get this tablet free
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i bought a box of these units a while back from the carboot and wanted to use them in our coffee shop were opening, i too didnt have much luck with them then i saw this thread, i know abit about computers but never messed with android, we basically wanted to use them for what they are used for now for displaying changing menus and advertising etc, i downloaded the clockworkmods adb, now how to enter the "./adb shell logcat >> log.txt" etc, presumably i just connect the otg port to the pc (win10) run the clockworkmod program then i use commandpromt? i did try it but i couldnt get it to work, do i have to put the android device into a mode like csr? any help would be appreciated?
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Same issue here with the DT133-AC4-900 that I managed to pull out of a trashed google nest display from where I work. I managed to get the device to always load to the DUCO app by uninstalling the mediaplayer throught the DUCO app. However that is as far as I can get as the device will not communicate with ADB at all. Not sure if it's a win10 thing or if it's the device itself.
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I DID IT! Working tablet
So the story is yesterday I found an Amiibo display at my apartment dumpster where people put stuff they don't want that still works, I nabbed it with the intention of salvaging the "monitor." Judging by the hammer-marks on the acrylic enclosure, and pry marks on the metal cage that held the power supplies for the led strips and the tablet I assume somebody took it home, got frustrated by the locks and screws after some prying, and just busted in the acrylic window to get to the floor model Amiibos.
I cracked it open, and after some fun with a butane torch to melt the acrylic around the screws open (damn security hex) was surprised to find that the "monitor" had a usb dongle plugged into it. I plugged it into my station and found it was a 2.4/5 GHZ wifi dongle.
All code here is from Windows power shell since I don't like to dual boot my main gaming rig. Usually I just use the Bash on Ubuntu on Windows developer option for stuff like this, but I didn't know if the fact I was using Windows usb drivers to connect to this would cause problems and I wanted one fewer step to troubleshoot if I had issues. Forgive me penguin for I have sinned.
I found the item number on the back of it and after some googling found it was an android device. Score!
I plugged the tablet in and it went into an Amiibo advertisement kiosk mode.
After about 8 hours I now have a limited (but functional!) giant Android tablet.
To any future adventurers I am making a guide to get you up and running quickly.
I followed selaliadobor's instructions:
As well as pressing CSR and Setup to get into the settings screen. This was interesting, but ultimately didn't do much. However using
Code:
./adb shell logcat >> log.txt
and waiting for it to reboot from the csr menu led me to find (with some help from my engineer father) that /system/app/CSR_A003_20160304_BT.apk was the culprit of the restarts.
This was solved with
Code:
./adb shell rm /system/app/CSR_A003_20160304_BT.apk
From there I was stuck. But then I discovered: THE CSR SETTINGS MENU IS NOT THE REAL ANDROID SETTINGS MENU. To get to the real android settings menu use this:
Code:
./adb shell am start -a android.settings.SETTINGS
This allows you to do a factory reset!
However when it reboots the default launcher is stripped of important features like back/home/running apps, keyboard, a launcher etc. I sideloaded the following apps:
Chrome Browser
Microsoft Arrow Launcher (I originally used Nova but it was too much a ram hog to be useful)
Multiling Keyboard (I originally used Swiftkey, but it too was taking up too much ram)
WebTube (stripped down youTube frontend)
Soft Keys (so I had a home and back button, the running apps button still doesn't work :'( )
First post so no links ;(
imgur .com/dGAOmoM
This is what it looks like after boot. I may also have an affinity for Amiibos.
imgur .com/uQ8u7js
Classic.
Quick note: This device doesn't support google play services, so no hulu, official youtube, netflix unfortunately. Try as I might I haven't found a solution.
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This worked, but I couldn't get ADB to work in Windows, I had to go grab my laptop running Deepin Linux and set up ADB on that, but no USB drivers are needed in Linux, so once I set up ADB, it just worked. So I'm hoping that might be the solution for others who are having trouble, just use Linux, it just works. ADB works on the CSR level, so no need for security key. Got CPU-Z on there for any curious about the hardware specs, my model is a DT101-ASA-800
Android Keyboard Issues
Hello. I am a new Android user who has purchased an RCA Viking Pro 10 2-in-1 Android Laptop running Android 6.0 with kernel version 3.18.22(not rooted). I use it to work on various projects on the go, offline about 95% of the time. I'm having some problems regarding the keyboard and cannot seem to root it. I would appreciate any help someone could offer.
My device is labeled as RCT6K03W13-Android6.0-v1.15.0-M00 and runs Android 6.0 kernel version 3.18.22. KingRoot fails to discover a rooting strategy, then tries anyway but fails. Please note that I have no other computer and only limited computer access.
The biggest issue involves to two cmd buttons that flank the spacebar. Pressing them opens Google App for a voice search, which I never use. This minimizes the app that I was using, starts google app, then minimizes that to show the search bar on the desktop (which I would also like to go away). Then a popup tells me that I'm not connected to the internet. Since I rarely am, this is extremely annoying. If I wanted to run a web search I would open Chrome myself. I certainly wouldn't want the results to appear in Google App, which doesn't work nearly as well. I blame RCA for poor design, placing hotkeys at the bottom of the keyboard where they're likely to be pressed accidentally (it is a small keyboard, after all).
I would like to remap the left and right Cmd buttons to the left and right mouse buttons. I tried External Keyboard Helper, but it can't remap the command buttons and won't remap anything to the mouse buttons anyway. The Viking Pro includes a touchpad mouse without buttons, which is fine for most Android users, but I intend to work extensively with Linux ports such as AndrOpen Office and GIMP Inkscape, and they require precision when dragging and dropping small objects.
Also, the two finger touchpad touch that's meant to simulate a right mouse button click works as a back button instead. I already have one of those on my screen and one on my keyboard, I certainly don't need a third. What I do need is a right mouse button. It should simulate a long press and/or the right button.
Unfortunately GIMP Inkscape and Pelya's linux translation layer don't run on Android 6, so I need to either run Linux Deploy, which requires ROOT, or go all out and just install Linux(perhaps Ubuntu Phone), which requires unlocking my boot manager. Perhaps I should have just bought a Linux Netbook instead, but the tablet was cheap and something about Android attracted me to it. I thought I would be able to find more g featured Linux ports, but Google did to good of a job when they monetized the package manager and locked out root access. I would think running x-11 over the framebuffer would be easy, and that people would port current versions of LibreOffice, Scribus, Inkscape, Blender, ext. I guess linux users are sore about google stealing Linux's thunder when they released Android just as Linux on phones, tablets, and netbooks was gaining traction.
As an old DOS gamer and amateur Linux programmer, I'm not averse to manually editing cfg files (or to setting jumpers to configure my hardware). Unfortunately, I'm new to Android and have limited internet access. Any help someone could offer to a 90s geek with out-of-date computer skills due to some legal problems would be greatly appreciated (the empty wallet hardly helps things).
Sincerely
Michael Palmer
[email protected]
MichaelCPalmer said:
Android Keyboard Issues
Hello. I am a new Android user who has purchased an RCA Viking Pro 10 2-in-1 Android Laptop running Android 6.0 with kernel version 3.18.22(not rooted). I use it to work on various projects on the go, offline about 95% of the time. I'm having some problems regarding the keyboard and cannot seem to root it. I would appreciate any help someone could offer.
My device is labeled as RCT6K03W13-Android6.0-v1.15.0-M00 and runs Android 6.0 kernel version 3.18.22. KingRoot fails to discover a rooting strategy, then tries anyway but fails. Please note that I have no other computer and only limited computer access.
The biggest issue involves to two cmd buttons that flank the spacebar. Pressing them opens Google App for a voice search, which I never use. This minimizes the app that I was using, starts google app, then minimizes that to show the search bar on the desktop (which I would also like to go away). Then a popup tells me that I'm not connected to the internet. Since I rarely am, this is extremely annoying. If I wanted to run a web search I would open Chrome myself. I certainly wouldn't want the results to appear in Google App, which doesn't work nearly as well. I blame RCA for poor design, placing hotkeys at the bottom of the keyboard where they're likely to be pressed accidentally (it is a small keyboard, after all).
I would like to remap the left and right Cmd buttons to the left and right mouse buttons. I tried External Keyboard Helper, but it can't remap the command buttons and won't remap anything to the mouse buttons anyway. The Viking Pro includes a touchpad mouse without buttons, which is fine for most Android users, but I intend to work extensively with Linux ports such as AndrOpen Office and GIMP Inkscape, and they require precision when dragging and dropping small objects.
Also, the two finger touchpad touch that's meant to simulate a right mouse button click works as a back button instead. I already have one of those on my screen and one on my keyboard, I certainly don't need a third. What I do need is a right mouse button. It should simulate a long press and/or the right button.
Unfortunately GIMP Inkscape and Pelya's linux translation layer don't run on Android 6, so I need to either run Linux Deploy, which requires ROOT, or go all out and just install Linux(perhaps Ubuntu Phone), which requires unlocking my boot manager. Perhaps I should have just bought a Linux Netbook instead, but the tablet was cheap and something about Android attracted me to it. I thought I would be able to find more g featured Linux ports, but Google did to good of a job when they monetized the package manager and locked out root access. I would think running x-11 over the framebuffer would be easy, and that people would port current versions of LibreOffice, Scribus, Inkscape, Blender, ext. I guess linux users are sore about google stealing Linux's thunder when they released Android just as Linux on phones, tablets, and netbooks was gaining traction.
As an old DOS gamer and amateur Linux programmer, I'm not averse to manually editing cfg files (or to setting jumpers to configure my hardware). Unfortunately, I'm new to Android and have limited internet access. Any help someone could offer to a 90s geek with out-of-date computer skills due to some legal problems would be greatly appreciated (the empty wallet hardly helps things).
Sincerely
Michael Palmer
[email protected]
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have youhad any luck rooting your device? i have the same one and tried ALL of the one click root apps with no luck
Hello everyone I am trying to route a tablet root model number is RCT6K03W13 I can’t seem to find any won that routes the device And it’s running android version 6.0
And kernel Version 3.18.22 can someone please help me I would greatly appreciate it
Sorry if this is in the wrong location, if it is please let me know where to move it.
So the story goes I found an Amiibo Kiosk at my apartment dumpster. It was originally designed to run a single app meant to be interacted with by customers and a settings app meant to be accessed by a technician and nothing more. Using adb I managed to get into the /actual/ android settings menu instead of the custom "CSR" one that you can access by pushing some buttons on the back and perform a factory reset. If you need more information I documented everything I did here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/commercial-grade-android-tablet-issues-t3594279 the post is at the very bottom.
It's a giant 18.5 inch 720p commercial tablet from DUCO meant to be mounted in customer-service kiosks: (product page) http://www.ducotech.com/product/18-5-android-based-720p-hi-def-lcd-media-player/
I sideloaded arrow launcher, aosp keyboard, google chrome, and a stripped-down youtube front-end so it can be used as an actual tablet. Unfortunately Google Play services in not supported on this device (although I could probably spoof it as an officially supported device to make it work, but I want to fix my biggest problem first.)
My problem is that after a pretty consistent amount of time it unceremoniously black-screens with a pop from the speakers, then starts back up. I logcatted it and it shows nothing but wlan polls and ram cleanup before it shuts down, however I'll include it anyway since I'm sure that'll be the first thing anybody asks for.
My best guess is that there is some kernel watchdog resetting it since it's not being tickled by DUCO's CSR app that is normally installed when the system is sitting on a salesfloor.
Is there any way to check for this and/or disable it?
Additional info:
Running Android 4.1.1
Sun4i architecture
I attempted to install Busybox, but the tablet resets itself before Busybox can finish installation.
Logcat is here since the logcat.txt is a few kb too big to upload.
How did you get PowerShell to accept the line code. It errors everytime I type the codes you are recommending