Hi,
I am considering getting the 7.2 in the 6 GB/128 GB edition. Usually I unlock the bootloader and root my phones (Magisk), to be able to use apps such as TitaniumBackup and Magisk Modules like YouTube Vanced.
Has anybody rooted their phone and can report back the availability of Widevine L1 and passing of SafetyNet (Magisk and/or DRM Info) after rooting? How does the phone handle official updates after rooting, do they still come in OTA or do they need to be flashed manually?
Thanks!
I wonder if camera quality gets worse, too.
I hope it's not the same case as with Sony devices...
No, the camera does not get worse.
OTAs
After unlocking the bootloader, I was unable to install any OTA updates. The system did allow downloading them, yet I couldn't get it to install them.
UPDATE
Turns out, you can install OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader. Though, it only works with the stock kernel. So, if anyone installed twrp or any custom kernel, OTAs would not work.
I have both Magisk and EdXposed installed. The latter is a means of using Xposed on the phone. GravityBox works like a charm
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I'm still on a rooted 4.1.2 and have the second OTA update to 4.3 (.109) in my notifications. Rather than go through the whole flashing process, I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Survival mode in SuperSU to retain root from this point to .109?
Chimpdaddy said:
I'm still on a rooted 4.1.2 and have the second OTA update to 4.3 (.109) in my notifications. Rather than go through the whole flashing process, I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Survival mode in SuperSU to retain root from this point to .109?
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you can try ot yourself,.but i reckon it will give you error while applying update.
Rootk1t said:
you can try ot yourself,.but i reckon it will give you error while applying update.
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Yup, I'd read similar. I was more concerned that it would update but I'd lose root, so have to then do the full process.
Chimpdaddy said:
Yup, I'd read similar. I was more concerned that it would update but I'd lose root, so have to then do the full process.
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I have a rooted 422 with su pro, The update process aborts mid way and the OS is left untouched, leaving all as it was. I am just too lazy to do the flashtool thing and all, so I left it alone.
I was able to go from 412 to 422 with the OTA and keep root.
bjrmd said:
I have a rooted 422 with su pro, The update process aborts mid way and the OS is left untouched, leaving all as it was. I am just too lazy to do the flashtool thing and all, so I left it alone.
I was able to go from 412 to 422 with the OTA and keep root.
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I know, so lazy, if I wait long enough 4.4 will come around and that might keep root!
Nobody's read a successful account of this working then? I may as well just try it and see...
Possibly
If you have bought Supersu pro then you could try survival mode, provided that your phone is only root and doesn't have a custom recovery installed.
I personally haven't tried it on my tablet but on other phones like G2, OTA update retains root.
If you have CWM or TWRP installed then it won't let you update.
adielee said:
If you have bought Supersu pro then you could try survival mode, provided that your phone is only root and doesn't have a custom recovery installed. I personally haven't tried it on my tablet but on other phones like G2, OTA update retains root. If you have CWM or TWRP installed then it won't let you update.
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Judging by all the posts I have read here so far, attempting to update to 4.3 via OTA will fail if your tablet's current firmware has been modified to have root access. Having SuperSU Pro installed with Install SuperSU into /system and/or Survival mode enabled does not help. I have attempted an OTA update with 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, and the update failed in both attempts. It's okay with me though. After reading about 4.3's bugs and seeing its UI, I don't really want to update to 4.3 anymore.
Cat McGowan said:
Judging by all the posts I have read here so far, attempting to update to 4.3 via OTA will fail if your tablet's current firmware has been modified to have root access. Having SuperSU Pro installed with Install SuperSU into /system and/or Survival mode enabled does not help. I have attempted an OTA update with 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, and the update failed in both attempts. It's okay with me though. After reading about 4.3's bugs and seeing its UI, I don't really want to update to 4.3 anymore.
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you're right, but besides bugs introduced as every firmware does, some very positive tweaks were done "under the bonnet" like TRIM enabled to make less wearing of flash modules, and some performance tweaks noticeable not only in launcher, but mostly in games too.
So if you have root and recovery installed you can backup your data and install .109 prerooted firmware to evaluate it yourself.
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you're right, but besides bugs introduced as every firmware does, some very positive tweaks were done "under the bonnet" like TRIM enabled to make less wearing of flash modules, and some performance tweaks noticeable not only in launcher, but mostly in games too.
So if you have root and recovery installed you can backup your data and install .109 prerooted firmware to evaluate it yourself.
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I would also recommend to flash a pre-rooted 4.3 from scratch for performance and less issues, but if you have a lot of apps installed and everything set up the way you want it can be a pain in the a$#.
Also the OP doesn't want to flash. But if he can it means that the OTA won't install because he has a custom recovery.
I don't see why Supersu pro with survival mode won't work for an OTA to keep root. This is provided that a you do not have a custom recovery installed. It's kind of the purpose for survival mode and if you do a search it works with most other updates with other devices (even for 4.4.2)
It may be possible that other mods may affect the OTA especially ones which were flashed or possibly xposed.
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I don't see why Supersu pro with survival mode won't work for an OTA to keep root. This is provided that a you do not have a custom recovery installed. It's kind of the purpose for survival mode and if you do a search it works with most other updates with other devices (even for 4.4.2) It may be possible that other mods may affect the OTA especially ones which were flashed or possibly xposed.
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I do not have (nor do I want) a custom recovery or custom ROM installed on my XTZ. I only have root access, which I achieved by using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit when I first received my XTZ back in May 2013. Since then, thanks to SuperSU Pro, I have updated my XTZ's firmware via OTA twice without losing root access. It is only with the last two XTZ firmware releases, 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, that the OTA updates fail. I suspect Sony's latest firmware releases include detection of root access, etc., which causes the update's failure to install.
Nope
Cat McGowan said:
I do not have (nor do I want) a custom recovery or custom ROM installed on my XTZ. I only have root access, which I achieved by using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit when I first received my XTZ back in May 2013. Since then, thanks to SuperSU Pro, I have updated my XTZ's firmware via OTA twice without losing root access. It is only with the last two XTZ firmware releases, 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, that the OTA updates fail. I suspect Sony's latest firmware releases include detection of root access, etc., which causes the update's failure to install.
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Well, I tried it, thinking the worse that could happen is that it would abandon the install, but unfortunately it went right through and upgraded to 4.3 and I lost root
I'd put it into OTA survival mode but not into system/apps. I had no xposed or recovery anything, just root.
So there we go. Thanks for the discussion guys, hope this is useful to someone else.
How do I root it in 4.3? Any ideas?
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703774
Sent from my SGP311 using xda app-developers app
Netflix no longer works for me as Google SafetyNet DRM detects root (SuperSU, busybox, and unlocked bootloaders). Currently, the only work around is Magisk hide, which means you need johnwu systemless root using MagiskSU and the Magisk framework flashed. There is a major snag for the G3 however, due to bump. Bump is what allows a custom bootloader to be accepted. MagiskSU and framework work by modifying the boot.img to mount a hidden partition. With stock ROMs above 5.1.1, you cannot just bump the modified boot image as it causes flashing red and blue lights and bootloader not to verify correctly.
I could switch to a different ROM like Cyanogenmod and use a bump script to get it to work (complicated and unwanted). Developer support is lacking at the moment, so I am not holding my breath. Not to mention, SafetyNet will keep evolving and leave this method behind eventually. The future is likely in a temp root solution just to apply system-less modules and ad-blocking as rooted users become more persecuted by major services.
Even so, I would love a method of using Magisk hide currently while staying on stock MM if possible.
Oh no! I had no idea Magisk wasn't working for stock roms.
I was just looking it up because I got the dreaded screen dying issue (paper fix is working for now) and was thinking of starting over with a new G3 and putting Magisk on it.
I guess I'll have to use a custom ROM if I do that? Are there any that can pass SafetyNet?
davidgro said:
Oh no! I had no idea Magisk wasn't working for stock roms.
I was just looking it up because I got the dreaded screen dying issue (paper fix is working for now) and was thinking of starting over with a new G3 and putting Magisk on it.
I guess I'll have to use a custom ROM if I do that? Are there any that can pass SafetyNet?
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CyanogenMod works with magisk I've heard.
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CyanogenMod works with magisk I've heard.
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Turns out Fulmics does too! That's what I'm using on my new phone.
I recently installed a custom recovery on my exynos s9+ on stock pie. I actually thought unlocking oem and installing a custom recovery + root would trip Knox and prevent me from getting any updates but it didn't. Was roaming on my phone today and somehow found myself in the phone update menu. I tapped on check for updates and low and behold I could download an update. My problem is now that I'm on a custom recovery how would any update i download even manage to install? And even if it does is there a possibility that it might cause troubles like re-enabling dm-verity lock and bricking my phone? I wanna know what might happen if I proceed to download and install that OTA update.
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I recently installed a custom recovery on my exynos s9+ on stock pie. I actually thought unlocking oem and installing a custom recovery + root would trip Knox and prevent me from getting any updates but it didn't. Was roaming on my phone today and somehow found myself in the phone update menu. I tapped on check for updates and low and behold I could download an update. My problem is now that I'm on a custom recovery how would any update i download even manage to install? And even if it does is there a possibility that it might cause troubles like re-enabling dm-verity lock and bricking my phone? I wanna know what might happen if I proceed to download and install that OTA update.
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Personally I would not do the OTA as it may not update properly (if even at all). Every phone I have rooted before this was one of the cautions usually posted... I would double check in what ever tutorial, thread, utility faq you used to make sure.
I would suggest you wait for an update to be made that is flashable with your custom recovery. If your custom recovery has the feature (like TWRP) make a backup of what you have installed, flash the update and if things don't work you can restore your backup.
I miss having that kind of backup/restore ability via custom recovery on my phone.. sure comes in handy when things go sideways
Nothing happens. According to my experience and contents in the OTA zip, twrp will simply just spit it out. No dm-verity re-lock or bricking too.
You can always download one of the custom systems which are regularly updated.
Example would be Soldier ROM.
I recommend find your new firmware and flash it. You will lose all of your file and root-recovery you can have them all back
Hi, my bootloader unlocked with twrp installed lgv30 keeps complaining about a system update, but each time i choose install it just reboots into twrp.
I presume the install process needs the stock recovery for something? I'm unsure how to proceed, and it will not even let me turn off the notifications!
Correct, OTA updates cannot be applied via TWRP and require stock recovery. Fact is, you don't want to apply the OTA, because it will break the OS anyway, so don't do that.
If you want the update, since these phones are old, chances are there is a TWRP version of the update already... and/or a KDZ. Either of those can be used as well. KDZ will wipe the phone, but TWRP can be "dirty flashed" over what you already have.
In order for anyone to help further, you'd have to tell us what you have to begin with.
As for disabling the notification, you can disable the updater app to stop this from popping up at all. This is detailed in many places as well.., and, again, requires us to know what you're running now.
Thanks for the info, mine is a Stock H930DS using the lastest stock Android 9 for Australia.
I'm not that fussed about the update itself, which I believe to be a minor security patch. Disabling the updater would be great.
I have the unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed, but not magisk, I imagine I could install that again via TWRP, but wanted to get back to as original as possible.
Hi guys, my questions would refer to root privileges with regard to OTA software update...
But firstly...
Do you think that KingoRoot apk constitutes a reliable root service? Do you think one can root his/her device just by installing the app via browser in the phone and launching the root process?
And now the initial question:
Do you think that OTA software update can remove root from the device? Or, does the fact that one can perform OTA software update indicate that there is acutally no root on the phone?
(Device: Samsung Galaxy J5 2016)
Thanks!
Yannikk said:
Hi guys, my questions would refer to root privileges with regard to OTA software update...
But firstly...
Do you think that KingoRoot apk constitutes a reliable root service? Do you think one can root his/her device just by installing the app via browser in the phone and launching the root process?
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Generally no - Android functions such as Verified Boot and dm-verity are supposed to prevent persistent rootkits, unless the bootloader is unlocked. Yes, there are some exploits, but usually these only provide temporary root.
As a general rule I advise against using closed source software, simply because you don't know if there's anything malicious going on under the hood. A safe alternative is Magisk, although this does not utilize any exploits, so you would have to unlock your bootloader and root the "right" way.
Yannikk said:
And now the initial question:
Do you think that OTA software update can remove root from the device?
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Yes - in most cases, a OTA update overwrites several partitions on the device, including /boot and /system. This means that after rebooting from an OTA update, root would no longer be available. The workaround for this is the "Patch to inactive slot" function in Magisk on A/B devices - once the update is complete and the device is ready for a reboot, Magisk uses root privileges to patch the new boot image, so that root persists after reboot.
For A only devices such as Samsung, it's a bit more tricky...you'd need to flash a custom recovery after the update and flash Magisk from there.
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Or, does the fact that one can perform OTA software update indicate that there is acutally no root on the phone?
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Not always. In most cases, update_engine conducts various checks to determine whether critical partitons such as /system and /boot are intact and untampered; if they are, the update will fail. This is why Magisk has the "Restore images" function for systemless root - Magisk restores the unpatched boot image written to flash, so that the device may pass these checks. It doesn't always work, and on the opposite end of things, there are some devices that will happily install an OTA update even with modified binaries present on the device.
Thanks for you answer, V0latyle.
Now, I would present a broader picture of an issue that gains my attention...
It happend some time ago, on an older device (Galaxy J5 2016, as mentioned)...
I installed KingoRoot apk (directly via browser in the phone) and launched rooting process... The app signalized that the rooting process has been successful... I did not install any custom ROMs or apps... The phone functioned pretty normally then... However, after few months, out of the blue, my device started behaving strangely... Videos on YT took a great amount of time to load or they lagged after some time... Newsfeed on IG did not work, nor instastories... Browsers were also considerably slower... Approx. 2 months later, when Nougat 7.1.1 came out and after I downloaded this software update (OTA), the phone got somehow faster - YT videos loaded faster or did not lag, IG newsfeed got updated regularly, browsers were not so slow either... On the other hand, yes, some apps still behaved in an unusual way...
Do you have any idea what might have happened in this case?
Thank you very much for any suggestions!