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Hello dear users and developers of firmware for the device LG V30+
Today I became the owner of LG v30+ 4/128 (H930DS), currently it has a software version installed: Android 7.1.2, Kernel version 4.4.63, Software version V10d-IND-XX (I don’t quite understand what the last meaning means)
I respect all developers of firmware for this device, but I want to ask which firmware is more stable (where both camera modules work well and there is support for the built-in analog digital converter) and has more functions in terms of interface customization? Interested in Android version 8 and 9.
Thank you for paying attention to this thread. :fingers-crossed:
vArhont said:
Hello dear users and developers of firmware for the device LG V30+
Today I became the owner of LG v30+ 4/128 (H930DS), currently it has a software version installed: Android 7.1.2, Kernel version 4.4.63, Software version V10d-IND-XX (I don’t quite understand what the last meaning means)
I respect all developers of firmware for this device, but I want to ask which firmware is more stable (where both camera modules work well and there is support for the built-in analog digital converter) and has more functions in terms of interface customization? Interested in Android version 8 and 9.
Thank you for paying attention to this thread. :fingers-crossed:
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V10d-IND-XX
"10" means Nougat
20 would be Oreo.
Your best bet right now is to update to early Oreo (pre-July 2018) to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root. Then update to current rooted Oreo firmware.
Everything will work, and you can flash Magisk modules to get some custom stuff.
See WTF thread for bootloader unlock and TWRP.
ChazzMatt said:
Your best bet right now is to update to early Oreo (pre-July 2018) to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root. Then update to current rooted Oreo firmware.
Everything will work, and you can flash Magisk modules to get some custom stuff.
See WTF thread for bootloader unlock and TWRP.
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Tell me please, do I understand you well? Do you offer to upgrade to the Oreo version, install twrp and root on your smartphone and stay on the original LG Oreo firmware?
There are several nuances that I forgot to clarify. It is desirable that the firmware was without GApps, from Google services I use only a translator. (I have not used GApps for more than two years)
ChazzMatt said:
V10d-IND-XX
"10" means Nougat
20 would be Oreo.
Your best bet right now is to update to early Oreo (pre-July 2018) to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root. Then update to current rooted Oreo firmware.
Everything will work, and you can flash Magisk modules to get some custom stuff.
See WTF thread for bootloader unlock and TWRP.
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Connect smartphone to the Internet. Writes that a software update is available to the version: V10e-JAN-23-2018. Update device? Can I then install TWRP and root after this update?
vArhont said:
Tell me please, do I understand you well? Do you offer to upgrade to the Oreo version, install twrp and root on your smartphone and stay on the original LG Oreo firmware?
There are several nuances that I forgot to clarify. It is desirable that the firmware was without GApps, from Google services I use only a translator. (I have not used GApps for more than two years)
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Stock firmware doesn't use GAPPS.
Yes, stay on Oreo stock firmware, but unlock bootloader, install TWRP. After that, there's an updated stock OREO H930DS TWRP-flashable zip you can flash to update to latest Oreo.
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vArhont said:
Connect smartphone to the Internet. Writes that a software update is available to the version: V10e-JAN-23-2018. Update device? Can I then install TWRP and root after this update?
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What you are seeing is old. Please go to WTF thread. That will answer all your questions and give you links.
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ChazzMatt said:
Stock firmware doesn't use GAPPS.
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Stock firmware uses gapps, otherwise you wouldnt have any play services on the phone when you buy it
And how much of the gapps are used depends on how much google makes the manufacturers install, changes every now and then.
SGCMarkus said:
Stock firmware uses gapps, otherwise you wouldnt have any play services on the phone when you buy it [emoji14]
And how much of the gapps are used depends on how much google makes the manufacturers install, changes every now and then.
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OK to clarify, you don't install AOSP GAPPS package with stock firmware.
It already has the apps, and you can manually install what else you need.
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vArhont said:
Connect smartphone to the Internet. Writes that a software update is available to the version: V10e-JAN-23-2018. Update device? Can I then install TWRP and root after this update?
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The update your are seeing is old Nougat firmware from a year ago.
Please go read this below. It has all your answers...
WTF BOOTLOADER UNLOCK, Post #193
ChazzMatt said:
OK to clarify, you don't install AOSP GAPPS package with stock firmware.
It already has the apps, and you can manually install what else you need.
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The update your are seeing is old Nougat firmware from a year ago.
Please go read this below. It has all your answers...
WTF BOOTLOADER UNLOCK, Post #193
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Does the standard firmware already have GApps? I would not want to have a GApps core in a smartphone.
Even if we take into account the smallest NANO package, then it has the following components and telemetry as a gift.
Device Health Services
Google App (Search)
Google Package Installer (replaces stock / AOSP Package Installer)
Google Play services
I would like a clean firmware without any trace of google. What can you recommend?
vArhont said:
Does the standard firmware already have GApps? I would not want to have a GApps core in a smartphone.
Even if we take into account the smallest NANO package, then it has the following components and telemetry as a gift.
Device Health Services
Google App (Search)
Google Package Installer (replaces stock / AOSP Package Installer)
Google Play services
I would like a clean firmware without any trace of google. What can you recommend?
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You don't need "GAPPs" on stock. The firmware has what it needs already.
You are complicating the requirements if you now also want no Google. You wanted no bugs.
Tell you what. Unlock the bootloader, install TWRP and root, and update to latest firmware. After that, you're on your own.
You can install whatever custom ROM you want, but there's none with no bugs at this point in time.
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ChazzMatt said:
Please go read this below. It has all your answers...
WTF BOOTLOADER UNLOCK, Post #193
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I apologize for the concern, I am very grateful for your help. But I still do not understand. Is Android upgraded from the air with the Nougat 7.1.2 V10d-IND-XX version to V10e-JAN-23-2018 version? (This is exactly what my smartphone is now offering, as it writes on the display of the device)
In your "WTF" thread, I read about my device:
US998 Oreo, European H930 Oreo, H930DS Oreo, and open market V30S Oreo have the fastboot flash commands and boot loader unlock flaw. (With pre-July 2018 security patch firmware; don't worry, we can get you there.) At present, if you have post-July Android security patch, you can downgrade to unlock your bootloader.
* India H930DS would use the IND H930DS Oreo KDZ. which has India-specific VoLTE for carriers like Jio -- with pre-July 2018 security patch firmware
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And I don’t understand whether I need to be updated or not needed to be updated in order not to make an downgrade.
I will clarify that we need a European version of the firmware.
And once again, I apologize for my poor knowledge of English.
vArhont said:
I apologize for the concern, I am very grateful for your help. But I still do not understand. Is Android upgraded from the air with the Nougat 7.1.2 V10d-IND-XX version to V10e-JAN-23-2018 version? (This is exactly what my smartphone is now offering, as it writes on the display of the device)
And I don’t understand whether I need to be updated or not needed to be updated in order not to make an downgrade.
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Please do not mention any "10" (Nougat) firmware you are seeing. I've told you 3 times now that's old, outdated. You need "20" Oreo, but to UNlock bootloader you need specific version of Oreo before then updating to current Oreo. It will have a 20. Like 20A.
Updating from old version of Nougat to slightly less old version of Nougat does no good. You can NOT unlock H930DS bootloader on Nougat. You need to jump to specific version of Oreo.
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vArhont said:
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I will clarify that we need a European version of the firmware.
And once again, I apologize for my poor knowledge of English.
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You can use any region H930 or H930DS firmware you wish.
The only exception is for India H930DS for those that need India carrier Jio VoLTE.
I assumed you needed India firmware because that's what you have right now. But you can cross flash to Europe H930 if you wish.
In my WTF INSTRUCTIONS I even give a link to European H930DS OREO KDZ firmware. You can use that, if you wish.
You need to print it those instructions and read them several times.
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ChazzMatt said:
Please do not mention any "10" (Nougat) firmware you are seeing. I've told you 3 times now that's old, outdated. You need "20" Oreo, but to UNlock bootloader you need specific version of Oreo before then updating to current Oreo. It will have a 20. Like 20A.
Updating from old version of Nougat to slightly less old version of Nougat does no good. You can NOT unlock H930DS bootloader on Nougat. You need to jump to specific version of Oreo.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Thank you so much, unlocked, put root, on the latest versions of twrp and magisk18 work well)
Can you please tell us what can be removed from the gapps services without harming the stock firmware of the smartfon?
vArhont said:
Thank you so much, unlocked, put root, on the latest versions of twrp and magisk18 work well)
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Congratulations! You successfully updated to Oreo and followed the WTF instructions to it install TWRP and root.
What version firmware are you on now? Are you on H930DS or H930 firmware? If H930DS, which one? CIS?
Did you update to newer firmware after the bootloader unlock TWRP and root stage? LG improved the camera more with latest Oreo updates.
I have Settings screenshot suggestions with Google Photos link in that thread and my KDZ threads. Everyone has their own preferences, but there's so many deep (almost hidden) menus on this device it's easy to overlook some useful toggle (like the lock screen weather animations). And with root, I've been able to enable them all -- not just the two LG has as default.
I've also enabled call recorder and installed some other mods. I also use this one, but may not be compatible with your H930DS/H930.
vArhont said:
Can you please tell us what can be removed from the gapps services without harming the stock firmware of the smartfon?
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I don't know the answer to that. I know there are AOSP custom ROMs which can be used without GAPPs and you can install MicroG. The problem until recently with the custom ROMs for the V30 (I said recently) has been replicating various functionality of stock firmware as well as stock firmware. VoLTE, quad DAC (with digital filters), cameras, Always On Display, brightness controls on display, no audio on apps like WhatsApp. A lot of that has been fixed or improved considerably and is still under constant development -- but the title of this thread is "best custom firmware without bugs"... At this point in time I'm not sure that exists, but may in the near future.
For me, I'm running rooted stock firmware with various mods and you can also debloat stuff like the social media apps you do not use. There are threads around about what is "safe" to remove and what isn't. The problem is you besides "no bugs", then you threw in additional "no Google" requirment.
So, run most recent rooted stock firmware for awhile just so you know how it feels. Flash some mods so you can get some customization. THAT will be your baseline. THEN, after making good TWRP backup, you can try experimenting with some of the AOSP ROMs with microG. Good luck.
ChazzMatt said:
Congratulations! You successfully updated to Oreo and followed the WTF instructions to it install TWRP and root.
What version firmware are you on now? Are you on H930DS or H930 firmware? If H930DS, which one? CIS?
Did you update to newer firmware after the bootloader unlock TWRP and root stage? LG improved the camera more with latest Oreo updates.
I have Settings screenshot suggestions with Google Photos link in that thread and my KDZ threads. Everyone has their own preferences, but there's so many deep (almost hidden) menus on this device it's easy to overlook some useful toggle (like the lock screen weather animations). And with root, I've been able to enable them all -- not just the two LG has as default.
I've also enabled call recorder and installed some other mods. I also use this one, but may not be compatible with your H930DS/H930.
I don't know the answer to that. I know there are AOSP custom ROMs which can be used without GAPPs and you can install MicroG. The problem until recently with the custom ROMs for the V30 (I said recently) has been replicating various functionality of stock firmware as well as stock firmware. VoLTE, quad DAC (with digital filters), cameras, Always On Display, brightness controls on display, no audio on apps like WhatsApp. A lot of that has been fixed or improved considerably and is still under constant development -- but the title of this thread is "best custom firmware without bugs"... At this point in time I'm not sure that exists, but may in the near future.
For me, I'm running rooted stock firmware with various mods and you can also debloat stuff like the social media apps you do not use. There are threads around about what is "safe" to remove and what isn't. The problem is you besides "no bugs", then you threw in additional "no Google" requirment.
So, run most recent rooted stock firmware for awhile just so you know how it feels. Flash some mods so you can get some customization. THAT will be your baseline. THEN, after making good TWRP backup, you can try experimenting with some of the AOSP ROMs with microG. Good luck.
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I apologize for the wording “completely without errors”, I meant without critical errors, such as spontaneous reboot, camera drop after one shot or during video recording, constant disconnection from Wi-Fi. With the wording "without errors", which I had in mind the most common critical errors. I went through all these errors on the zuk z1 device, but today the camera and stabilization, calls, sounds and other functions work perfectly for him, the only thing that did not suit me in this device was 64 GB of memory without the possibility of expanding the microsd card and processor the old x32 architecture and the inefficient Adreno 330 graphics core without Open GL 3.2 support
Now the firmware H930DS20c_00_OPEN_CIS_DS_OP_0419 is installed on my device, in the item “Check for updates” it is written that today I have the latest software version, but I suspect that I don’t know the forum and the updates don’t come because the bootloader is unlocked,
First, I will try to update the firmware to the latest version (if I find how to do it) and remove all unnecessary programs, if nothing good comes of it, then most likely I will install AIS firmware (recommended on another forum with a link to the xda forum )
Tell me, now with the help of root and twrp I can make a full backup of the firmware data H930DS20c_00_OPEN_CIS_DS_OP_0419, and then I can restore it through the same twrp?
vArhont said:
Now the firmware H930DS20c_00_OPEN_CIS_DS_OP_0419 is installed on my device, in the item “Check for updates” it is written that today I have the latest software version, but I suspect that I don’t know the forum and the updates don’t come because the bootloader is unlocked,
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Here's a link to the latest 20E CIS H930DS, released back in September:
https://lg-firmwares.com/downloads-file/16406/H930DS20e_00_OPEN_CIS_DS_OP_0824.kdz
The way you would flash it is via LGUP, but UNcheck "recovery" partitions to keep TWRP custom recovery. Then you would boot to TWRP and re-flash the no encryption, no root checker files and Magisk again. It's somewhat a pain, which is why people like to flash the TWRP-flashable zip versions when available.
vArhont said:
most likely I will install AIS firmware (recommended on another forum with a link to the xda forum )
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AIS thread was locked a few months ago. Maybe it's still under development elsewhere and you can find the ROM somewhere on the internet.
vArhont said:
Tell me, now with the help of root and twrp I can make a full backup of the firmware data H930DS20c_00_OPEN_CIS_DS_OP_0419, and then I can restore it through the same twrp?
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Reboot into TWRP using the app shortcut I suggested in the WTF thread and go to backup and make a backup. If you use internal memory it's FAST to make backup, but probably also want to use microSD card (much slower) storage so that if you completely wipe your phone you have that backup in a safe place. When you go to restore you will navigate to the place you stored it on your phone.
vArhont said:
Thank you so much, unlocked, put root, on the latest versions of twrp and magisk18 work well)
Can you please tell us what can be removed from the gapps services without harming the stock firmware of the smartfon?
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Fortunately all of the Google related apps can be disabled in the settings on the stock ROM (US998). I'm running stock non-rooted and Google-less with amazing battery life. If you are rooted then you can even use Titanium Backup to freeze anything Google.
ChazzMatt said:
Here's a link to the latest 20E CIS H930DS, released back in September:
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Please tell me how to turn on your smartphone in the top notification panel. Stock firmware. 20e
vArhont said:
Please tell me how to turn on your smartphone in the top notification panel. Stock firmware. 20e
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Ask in different words. I apologize, but I don't quite understand. If you ask differently, maybe I'll get the meaning.
Turn on what from notification panel?
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ChazzMatt said:
Ask in different words. I apologize, but I don't quite understand. If you ask differently, maybe I'll get the meaning.
Turn on what from notification panel?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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I apologize. How to show net activity in statusbar?
vArhont said:
I apologize. How to show net activity in statusbar?
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On my phone the 4G LTE bars light up to show activity. See the difference in the two screenshots.
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I'm thinking of picking up a NIB H850 G5 for dirt cheap.
I'd like to update to the latest compatible OS for security update reasons, however, require 100% working, and 100% stable OS. I'm going to be using the G5 Cam Plus accessory as well.
What ROM would you recommend? I don't want to use a finicky ROM as I like my devices rock solid for daily use. Thanks!
For a 100% working device, you only choiche is stock Oreo. Unfortunately, all Lineage builds have problems with IR and VoLTE. Plus, by using a custom rom, you won't be able to use LG Camera software (which is, in my opinion, far better than any other, especially for filming).
By the way, if you agree with losing these functionalities, the best rom you can get is Lineage 16, with android Pie.
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.hi, i use custom rom 16 which u mention and my camera wont work at all. not only lg camera. also flash is not working/
Thanks for the info guys.
Suppose rooting and keeping stock would be wise then.
Is it possible to root with the latest updates or did LG/Google lock it down? Ie: do apps, like payment apps and Netflix, still work on rooted devices, or is it SOL if rooted? I've been out of the loop for a while
In need of a system wide ad/data blocker since the next phone plan I'm getting has a hard limit.
Cheers!
Rooting still works on H850 using Magisk. In stock Oreo, Magisk breaks the flashlight function. To restore it ad have a fully working phone, you have to flash MK2000 kernel after Magisk. Banking apps work well if root is hidden using MagiskHide. I'm not sure about Netflix, as I've never used it.
You can install whatever data blocker you want. I have installed AFWall+ and AdAway, and they work as they're expected to do.
Stock oreo 30c + magisk + mk2000 kernel is the way to go. Its fast, reliable, good battery life. No irritating bugs like volte and wifi calling not working.
I use adaway and i have added the energized blu go hosts file-
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnergizedProtection/block/master/bluGo/formats/hosts.txt
boxes said:
Stock oreo 30c + magisk + mk2000 kernel is the way to go. Its fast, reliable, good battery life. No irritating bugs like volte and wifi calling not working.
I use adaway and i have added the energized blu go hosts file-
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnergizedProtection/block/master/bluGo/formats/hosts.txt
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This is the route I'd like to go. Unfortunately, LG couldn't be bothered to release Oreo for my device (RS988). Never again, LG.
Hi everyone,
H93120c variant seems to be more difficult to root as expected.
Need someone who has knowledge how to do it as there are not unanimous info about it.
All I know is that I have to downgrade to one of the previous versions like H930 or USXXX.
Help, appreciated
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techski886 said:
Hi everyone,
H93120c variant seems to be more difficult to root as expected.
Need someone who has knowledge how to do it as there are not unanimous info about it.
All I know is that I have to downgrade to one of the previous versions like H930 or USXXX.
Help, appreciated
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H931 has been rooted since May 2018, over a year ago.
There is "unanimous" info about it here on XDA. It's not difficult. It's just like Canada H933, Sprint LS998, Verizon VS996, regional AS998.
You just haven't read the Root Sticky yet or WTF instructions.
I suggest you start with post #1 of this sticky:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
This is just for rooted and running stock firmware.
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Now, running AOSP/LINEAGE custom ROMs on H931 & H933 takes extra work, but there's guides in this forum for that.
Installing custom roms is something different from rooting. I've been rooted for over 1.5 years on V30, but still running stock firmware with mods.
Thank you for reply.
I have actually found whole instruction of how to do it.
Now after flashing to US996 I switched on phone (unneccesarily) and it forced me to connect to WI FI and after flashing OREO (2nd step in Frankenstein method) it updated straight away via wi fi to latest security patch which doesn't allow flashing new_unlock.bin.
So I need to flash again both roms but LGUP doesn't recognize my device anymore.
I am going to try out this Uppecut from this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
They don't mention v30 though, so will see.
Thanks
techski886 said:
Thank you for reply.
I have actually found whole instruction of how to do it.
Now after flashing to US996 I switched on phone (unneccesarily) and it forced me to connect to WI FI and after flashing OREO (2nd step in Frankenstein method) it updated straight away via wi fi to latest security patch which doesn't allow flashing new_unlock.bin.
So I need to flash again both roms but LGUP doesn't recognize my device anymore.
I am going to try out this Uppecut from this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
They don't mention v30 though, so will see.
Thanks
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1) Uppercut doesn't work on Oreo.
2) Now that you are on US998 Oreo 20h, you can use Dev Patched LGUP to downgrade back to 20a or 20b. You don't need to flash Nougat.
ChazzMatt said:
2) Now that you are on US998 Oreo 20h, you can use Dev Patched LGUP to downgrade back to 20a or 20b. You don't need to flash Nougat.
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Can't do as Dev patched LGUP I successfully did the operations with, doesn't recognize my device anymore (after flashed roms and unluckily updated to 2019 patch): After running LGUP and connecting the phone, in LGUP menu under model shows as "Unknown".
sorry, duplicate post.
Still same
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Also tried other computer with new installation of LG drivers and LGUP Dual, again same.
I have found this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/bring-lg-g5-to-life-download-mode-lgup-t3565508
But it includes uppercut. @ChazzMatt do you think it's worth a shot?
Thanks
Do you think new updated patched LGUP for good?
techski886 said:
Still same
Also tried other computer with new installation of LG drivers and LGUP Dual, again same.
I have found this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/bring-lg-g5-to-life-download-mode-lgup-t3565508
But it includes uppercut. @ChazzMatt do you think it's worth a shot?
Thanks
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You can try.
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You can try.
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I did try a lot of settings, installing and uninstalling drivers, changed USB ports and accidentally was able to discover the device properly - what helped was to simply unplug and plug in usb cable while still on USB download mode.
Now I want to flash to Lineage and cannot find my previous h931 model on the list:
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=286730
Should I choose h930 then?
techski886 said:
I did try a lot of settings, installing and uninstalling drivers, changed USB ports and accidentally was able to discover the device properly - what helped was to simply unplug and plug in usb cable while still on USB download mode.
Now I want to flash to Lineage and cannot find my previous h931 model on the list:
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=286730
Should I choose h930 then?
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Yes.
Read the Root Sticky, post #2.
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
* It tells how for all models EXCEPT H932, you can use "H930" AOSP/LINEAGE custom ROMs.
* And it also tells how former H931/H933 need EXTRA prep work before being able to install AOSP/LINEAGE custom ROMs.
This is what it's referring to:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/running-h930-aosp-rom-us998-converted-t3889320
This is one reason why in the Root Sticky, I also recommend running rooted stock firmware (and maybe install the Anxious V30 Magisk module for various mods), until you read through all that and get prepared.
ANXIOUS V30 MODULE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/anxiousv30-magisk-mod-t3865146
I've got it rooted, now from what I've read I can either
1 Upgrade to from b to h twrp stock (and maybe after some time go for e and then custom rom, in that case - can I downgrade easily?)
OR
2 Go for e straight up and then Lineage (following all necessary steps)
This is going to be opinion question now:
Is there any particulal reason u stayed on stock apart from audio and camera updates?
My goal with Lineage was to separate from google, I am afraid if I stayed on stock (even rooted) there is still going to be a lot of private data sent out in the background.
Is this viable on stock?
Thanks
techski886 said:
My goal with Lineage was to separate from google, I am afraid if I stayed on stock (even rooted) there is still going to be a lot of private data sent out in the background.
Is this viable on stock?
Thanks
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Not that I'm aware of. If you are talking about installing microG, etc.
techski886 said:
This is going to be opinion question now:
Is there any particular reason u stayed on stock apart from audio and camera updates?
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OK, I will answer as long as you realize this is only MY opinion. I am only telling the reason for MY choice.
On every device except for this one (all phones/tablets since 2010 for me and my wife and even friends), I've alway run custom ROMs. I even wrote threads about custom ROMs available for certain devices, and what had recently been updated, who the devs were, etc. So, you know where I'm coming from.
However, on my V30, while I am rooted I have not installed AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs. I chose not to, because in the beginning the DAC didn't work with custom ROMs. Now it does. But LG camera doesn't work and neither does the DTS 3D Stereo libs. (The most common question in the custom ROM threads is how to get back LG stock camera; you can't.) Also it's my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong), but no V30 AOSP/Lineage custom ROMS have VoLTE. (doesn't' affect me personally as my AT&T Prepaid plan on my NON-AT&T branded phone doesn't qualify -- but for many people, they need VoLTE.)
Plus initially there were stability problems with early custom ROMs, where various people complained their phone was randomly rebooting several times a day. Again, that was in the past (early 2018), which I know is not the current state of custom ROMs. Still, in my current job, I need my phone working all the time for business communication, dealing with often urgent issues.
I found with rooted stock stable firmware, I had total control of my phone -- while having DAC, LG Camera, DTS 3D stereo. I could install mods like Anxious V30 omnibus module, and even Gravity Box and Xstana to add more functionality and even customize status bar icons. I also use Nova launcher with my own choice of icon pack, my own wallpaper.
I know the devs work VERY hard to make the custom ROMs as good as they can be, and I appreciate that. Many people come to the V30 for the easy rooting and because of the custom ROMs. But too many people root their V30 and IMMEDIATELY jump into custom ROMs without even updating their firmware back to most recent stock firmware first. (T-mobile H932 is the worst for that; you have to root that variant on Nougat and people then try to jump from that to Lineage Pie and it's a nightmare. Causes their fingerprint sensor not to work, etc.) This makes their custom ROMs buggy and they become disillusioned, when after rooting they should update to most recent stock firmware (necessary for good custom ROM foundation), and take a couple of days to read the various custom ROM threads to see what works, what doesn't.
Also, then when they do install a custom ROM (after making a TWRP backup) if something acts wonky, they will have a better idea if it's that ROM or the phone, since they have rooted stock firmware experience to compare. If it's that ROM, then go try another.
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Regrettably, you have one of the two V30 variants (H931/H933) which don't like AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs, at least after simply unlocking bootloader and rooting. Through much experimentation, users of those variants have found methods to "inoculate" their phones so they CAN run those custom ROMs.
First of all thank you for your opinion and great help so far.
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Not that I'm aware of. If you are talking about installing microG, etc.
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So what I've read is that Gapps sends data in the background about ur phone even without account.
This is my main concern with stock ROM, unless you have blocked all connections on AFWall for all Gapps what actually give you the guarantee that it is not doing that?
You probably don't really want to block all Gapps functionality anyway.
This is the power that comes with MicroG - easliy block / unlock when you needed with proper sandboxing and the fact that custom ROM is Open Source confirms that there is no operations going on without your consent in the background.
However, on my V30, while I am rooted I have not installed AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs. I chose not to, because in the beginning the DAC didn't work with custom ROMs. Now it does. But LG camera doesn't work and neither does the DTS 3D Stereo libs. (The most common question in the custom ROM threads is how to get back LG stock camera; you can't.) Also it's my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong), but no V30 AOSP/Lineage custom ROMS have VoLTE. (doesn't' affect me personally as my AT&T Prepaid plan on my NON-AT&T branded phone doesn't qualify -- but for many people, they need VoLTE.)
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So app like Linphone - wich is VoIP will also not work?
I found with rooted stock stable firmware, I had total control of my phone -- while having DAC, LG Camera, DTS 3D stereo. I could install mods like Anxious V30 omnibus module, and even Gravity Box and Xstana to add more functionality and even customize status bar icons. I also use Nova launcher with my own choice of icon pack, my own wallpaper.
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In this GCAM can I switch to wide angle lens?
Btw, have you checked how many trackers Nova Launcher has? Do you block it on AFWall? Otherwise I wouldn't dare to use it.
Regrettably, you have one of the two V30 variants (H931/H933) which don't like AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs, at least after simply unlocking bootloader and rooting. Through much experimentation, users of those variants have found methods to "inoculate" their phones so they CAN run those custom ROMs.
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Yes the instructions include a lot of "if's", and the process doesn't seem to be straight forward.
Lastly, after I am not satsified with the Lineage and humbly want to come back to stock ROM. Can I like, just flash previous ROM? Let's say I install H933(20G), then US998(E), then custom ROM.
Can I flash H93320b again and then go through the process to update to latest ROM?
Thanks
techski886 said:
First of all thank you for your opinion and great help so far.
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you are welcome!
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So app like Linphone - wich is VoIP will also not work?
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VoIP apps should work. On another device with custom ROM, my Google Voice VoIP works fine, even though that custom ROM doesn't have VoLTE capability.
It's just that VoLTE is a carrier-enabled feature.
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In this GCAM can I switch to wide angle lens?
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Yes, there are versions of GCam were you can switch to wide-angle lens. I kept track of GCam ports in the early days, but haven't for the past few months. Better to ask in the ROM threads, where that is what they have to use.
techski886 said:
Lastly, after I am not satsified with the Lineage and humbly want to come back to stock ROM. Can I like, just flash previous ROM? Let's say I install H933(20G), then US998(E), then custom ROM.
Can I flash H93320b again and then go through the process to update to latest ROM?
Thanks
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To come back to stock rooted, two ways:
1) flash latest US998 20h Oreo KDZ via Refurbish in LGUP (or Pie if released by then). You should still have unlocked bootloader (confirmed by the "scary" bootloader unlock warning LG throws in your face for a few seconds).
Reinstall TWRP and flash the three root files again (encryption disabler, root check disabler, Magisk) < Those instructions would work for your scenario also.
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2) while on custom ROM -- where you still have TWRP -- you would merely flash the stock firmware TWRP-flashable zips (ROM) we have for US998 + Magisk. There are two caveats, however... For some reason you need to flash 20e, 20f, 20g, 20h TWRP-flashable zips all back-to-back in TWRP, then flash Magisk 18.X. (You can "stack" them to flash successively + Magisk, before rebooting.)
Also the Oreo TWRP flashable zips don't like Magisk 19.x. So, you would need to temporarily downgrade to Magisk 18.X until after you successfully reboot after the 20h TWRP flashable zip.
Maybe with Pie TWRP-flashable zip, when it arrives, will be different -- where you would only need to flash one TWRP flashable zip. But right now due to the massive audio framework changes starting with 20f, they sort of all build on each other (increments): 20e, 20f, 20g, 20h.
The TWRP-flashable zips (ROM versions of the KDZ files) are found in the US998 KDZ thread.
I'm on Lineage successfully! Great. Only thing left to do is to enable wide lens on GCam. Which I find troublesome.
Got GApi2 Enabled but still Camera app won't start (I mean GCAm) as normal Camera app is working.
I have tried two versions of GCam and both react the same.
So I've done what the guys said in the post for h931 to do first h933 20g then us998 20e then straight up to Lineage.
Now I think whether I should go flash maybe some roms in the middle in order for GCam to work, maybe I should include " 20e, 20f, 20g, 20h TWRP-flashable zip" before even going for instruction in the post (to install h993 20g).
What do you think?
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I'm on Lineage successfully! Great. Only thing left to do is to enable wide lens on GCam. Which I find troublesome.
Got GApi2 Enabled but still Camera app won't start (I mean GCAm) as normal Camera app is working.
I have tried two versions of GCam and both react the same.
So I've done what the guys said in the post for h931 to do first h933 20g then us998 20e then straight up to Lineage.
Now I think whether I should go flash maybe some roms in the middle in order for GCam to work, maybe I should include " 20e, 20f, 20g, 20h TWRP-flashable zip" before even going for instruction in the post (to install h993 20g).
What do you think?
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Made GCam to work, MicroG + SELinux persmissive mode was needed.
Fully content with the setup now :good:
I wasn't able to find any MicroG thread with V30 so here we go.
I am after the point of rooting the device and now trying to figure out best ROM option.
Ideally I would like to use MicroG as I like the idea of maneuverability and full control over Gapps - seems to be better option than AOSP + Gapps as Gapps going to send out mobile info with or without Google account anyway.
I have h931 on oreo so as I understand I should use Joan version of Lineage I want to flash but it's not on the list on official LineageOS with MicroG page.
Have anyone tried to flash any of those ROMs
https://download.lineage.microg.org/
or installed MicroG after Lineage and is successful so far?
Goal is to install and use Banking app when it's needed and then switch off all Google functionality.
Thanks
Most ROMs support MicroG.
I randomly searched in the ROM forum here and this was in the OP of one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-cosp-pie-t3930546
"Also, we provide the option to go completely without GApps using MicroG support."
Best to go down to the ROMs, find one you like and read their OP, then ask questions.
If you want Lineage specifically see bottom part of this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78011047&postcount=521
I'm on COSP with an H932 and am considering making the jump to microg once I have had the time to understand the process pretty well. As @ChazzMatt said there are a few threads on XDA dealing with this. Do a search and you'll find what you need. I also found this site useful "https://gitlab.com/Nanolx/NanoDroid/blob/master/README.md#installation-process"
It gives a lot of info on the install side, but also some on the after install. Once I have the time to give this a try I'll post my results.
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
I hope for you this will be useful.
Im on Oreo V22j, with fully functional MicroG.
On the previously version V22h(?) I had MicroG only ever y second boot working.
I installed the ROM complete clean, delete all Google Apps, from ROM, patched the service.jar to support signature spoofing and push the apks witch I get from micro g site in /priv-app Folder.
Since it works perfectly.
The YouTube Vanced thread has a modified microG that works well along regular pre-installed GApps.
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I'm on COSP with an H932 and am considering making the jump to microg once I have had the time to understand the process pretty well. As @ChazzMatt said there are a few threads on XDA dealing with this. Do a search and you'll find what you need. I also found this site useful "https://gitlab.com/Nanolx/NanoDroid/blob/master/README.md#installation-process"
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That's actaully useful info. Thanks
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Im on Oreo V22j, with fully functional MicroG.
On the previously version V22h(?) I had MicroG only ever y second boot working.
I installed the ROM complete clean, delete all Google Apps, from ROM, patched the service.jar to support signature spoofing and push the apks witch I get from micro g site in /priv-app Folder..
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It has to be the most wicked thing I've read in a while.
You basically binned whole Gapps folder
I am probabaly doing terrible job searching the forum but couldn't find Oreo 22j I hope you just flash it after h and it's all good.
I still have doubts that somehow after removing whole Gapps there is some part of LG bloatware coded inside ROM rejoicefully sending data about mu phone usage.
I was going to go for your solution but this came to my mind.
Anyways @Nemeziz 56th can you please provide more details about the process? Where is it from?
Thanks
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I am probabaly doing terrible job searching the forum but couldn't find Oreo 22j
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His EU H930 22j = US998 22h. You would be using US998 22h, unless Pie comes for US998 this week.
Different V30 variants are on slightly different Oreo firmware number/letter combinations. The latest Oreo US998 is 22h, while the last Oreo for EU H930 is 22j. (Yes, they have Pie 30b now, but let's keep the discussion to Oreo.) It doesn't mean they are more advanced than US998 (on Oreo) -- it's just H930 Oreo launched before North American variants got Oreo last year -- so they had a couple extra security update releases before US998 20a hit. While the numbering is slightly different, the features are the same.
The only V30 variant that is different at this point in time on Oreo firmware is the Canada H933. For some reason they never got the DTS 3D stereo framework everyone else got in the late 2018/early 2019 Oreo firmware updates.
Ended up without MicroG for now as I will try to install it on another device.
Thank you for your input all.
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That's actaully useful info. Thanks
It has to be the most wicked thing I've read in a while.
You basically binned whole Gapps folder
I am probabaly doing terrible job searching the forum but couldn't find Oreo 22j I hope you just flash it after h and it's all good.
I still have doubts that somehow after removing whole Gapps there is some part of LG bloatware coded inside ROM rejoicefully sending data about mu phone usage.
I was going to go for your solution but this came to my mind.
Anyways @Nemeziz 56th can you please provide more details about the process? Where is it from?
Thanks
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My Problem was, I delete to much things, where I thought it was bloatware. At the end my Google Keep,QuickMemo Notes and some other stuff was not able to work.
It took me 2-4x of reflashes to find out that Google Chrome was the App which force close Google Keep, when I delete it(Only freezing it is safe)
I did a clean flash (Wiping everything in TWRP) then put the V22J which I get from here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-fw-lg-v30-joan-h930-eu-21h-twrp-t3864728)
I root the device with magisk (it shouldn't be a problem to find the right zip.) and flash the nano patcher zip which patch the service.jar to support signature spoofing (https://downloads.nanolx.org/NanoDroid/Stable/)
Let it boot first time and then starting to remove bloatware with Solid Explorer. (Important to know not to delete the bloatware from the twrp recovery before the device did his first boot, because you will get System UI force close. It was a experience that I get.
I delete Google Play Market, Google GMS and the Play Record Service (which show you your achievement in games), YouTube nearly everything. I will attach some screenshots.
Then I freeze and delete LG Apps. I recommend to freeze the LDB apk not to remove because the system could start massive wakelock.(I get some on older version)
Then just put these all apks: https://microg.org/download.html in PRIV-APP and set the permission to 777
Boot to Recovery wipe cache.
And now I was able normal to set up my phone.
When you delete apps and you don't know are these apps important just serach for there name in Google.
Sorry if this has been asked but I looked through and didn't see any LG based PIE ROMS.
Are there any about?
I've tried all the usual PIE ROMS (Lineage, DOT, HAVOC etc). Just fancy trying an LG Based Custom ROM without going back to complete stock.
Thanks,
Ross
Roshi69 said:
Sorry if this has been asked but I looked through and didn't see any LG based PIE ROMS.
Are there any about?
I've tried all the usual PIE ROMS (Lineage, DOT, HAVOC etc). Just fancy trying an LG Based Custom ROM without going back to complete stock.
Thanks,
Ross
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Well, first LG has to release Pie. I'm only half-joking.
EU H930 30a failed as Release Candidate and EU H93030b became the first official EU H930 Pie release for that variant. Then H930 30b was pulled from LG's servers due to RAM management complaints. A new, improved version supposedly released among Korean carrier variants. Australia H930DS got Pie less than a month ago, but don't think it's new, improved one. No North American variants have received Pie yet.
So, everyone is sort of in limbo.
Back during early Nougat and early Oreo there were a couple of stock-based ROMs. WETA US998 ROM by @Mentalmuso and BOOMBOX by @Whiskeyomega (which achieved cult status with audiophiles). Both departed the scene about a year ago. WETA Nougat was a favorite of many, but the Oreo version was never really finished. Link was posted unofficially just to show progress, but dev then said he was moving on to other things. Boombox Oreo was never updated past August 2018 -- whereas in the 12 months since then LG has given us DTS 3D stereo libs in stock Oreo updates and major camera improvements.
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Stock ROMs are few and far between for two reasons:
1) unlike the old days, current LG firmware doesn't need much improvement (at least Oreo). It's very stable, fast, fluid. Great battery life.
Don't like the look?
Install Nova launcher with cube rotation, your choice of icon packs, your own wallpaper.
Want some mods?
* Install Anxious V30 Magisk mod. (Still for Oreo right now. The dev may develop for Pie when it's ever released for her North American carrier. I'm still on stock, rooted Oreo so that's perfectly fine.)
Enables:
All Lockscreen Weather Animations, Anxious Kernel Script, Custom/V50 App Profiles, DTS:X 3D Surround, Dual Speaker for North American Variants, Falsified Advanced DAC Mode (a.k.a. Forced HIM, but well done), G7/V40/V50 Camera Features (Updated Camera App, Updated Gallery App, Google Lens, Super Bright Mode, Updated AI & Filter Data), Google Phone (stable), Google Sans, JoyPixels 5.0, LG Equalizer Settings (w/ Custom EQ), Pixel Roboto & Various Other Fonts, Pixel WiFi Mod, Razer Phone 2 Nova Launcher, US GPS Config, YouTube Vanced (Black);
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* install EdXposed (passes Safety Net) and then install Gravity Box. Other EdXposed mods available.
* Turn on call recording
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/volume-button-answer-mod-call-ui-oreo-t3951967
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/enable-native-call-recording-lg-v30-t3869260
Think there's some bloatware you don't need?
Install Titanium Backup, and freeze whatever you don't like. (US998 has almost no bloatware to begin with. I froze Twitter and maybe one other app.)
2) Because of #1, most devs don't like to spend time on stock ROMs. @Whiskeyomega developed some audio mods (which he posted as standalone mods in Themes/Apps section), and then his Boombox ROM was mostly giving users their choice of which audio mods to install (which anyone could themselves on stock from this standalone mods) and some other tweaks/debloating. It was basically his personal version of stock ROM, which anyone can do themselves. See point #1 again and all the stuff you can do yourself, which includes audio mods.
MOST devs who create full blown ROMs want to do BIGGER things than merely tweak/debloat already-debloated stock firmware. So, they go to AOSP/Lineage ROMs. (I'm not including public service ROMs like the stock-based TWRP flashable zips. Those have some build prop tweaks, but are mainly KDZ rebuilt as a ROM -- which we all APPRECIATE GREATLY!)
Once stock Pie is released widely, most ROM devs will move on to Android 10 (Q) ROMs. Because they will want to do something not yet done.
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Well, first LG has to release Pie. I'm only half-joking.
EU H930 30a failed as Release Candidate and EU H93030b became the first official EU H930 Pie release for that variant. Then H930 30b was pulled from LG's servers due to RAM management complaints. A new, improved version supposedly released among Korean carrier variants. Australia H930DS got Pie less than a month ago, but don't think it's new, improved one. No North American variants have received Pie yet.
So, everyone is sort of in limbo.
Back during early Nougat and early Oreo there were a couple of stock-based ROMs. WETA US998 ROM by @Mentalmuso and BOOMBOX by @Whiskeyomega's which achieved cult status with audiophiles. Both departed the scene about a year ago. WETA Nougat was a favorite of many, but the Oreo version was never really finished. Link was posted unofficially just to show progress, but dev then said he was moving on to other things. Boombox Oreo was never updated past August 2018 -- whereas in the 12 months since then LG has given us DTS 3D stereo libs in stock Oreo updates and major camera improvements.
Stock ROMs are few and far between for two reasons:
1) unlike the old days, current LG firmware doesn't need much improvement (at least Oreo). It's very stable, fast, fluid. Great battery life.
Don't like the look?
Install Nova launcher with cube rotation, your choice of icon packs, your own wallpaper.
Want some mods?
* Install Anxious V30 Magisk mod. (Still for Oreo right now. The dev may develop for Pie when it's ever released for her North American carrier. I'm still on stock, rooted Oreo so that's perfectly fine.)
* install EdXposed (passes Safety Net) and then install Gravity Box. Other EdXposed mods available.
* Turn on call recording
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/volume-button-answer-mod-call-ui-oreo-t3951967
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/enable-native-call-recording-lg-v30-t3869260
Think there's some bloatware you don't need?
Install Titanium Backup, and freeze whatever you don't like. (US998 has almost no bloatware to begin with. I froze Twitter and maybe one other app.)
2) Because of #1, most devs don't like to spend time on stock ROMs. @Whiskeyomega developed some audio mods (which he posted as standalone mods in Themes/Apps section), and then his Boombox ROM was mostly giving users their choice of which audio mods to install (which anyone could themselves on stock from this standalone mods) and some other tweaks/debloating. It was basically his personal version of stock ROM, which anyone can do themselves. See point #1 again and all the stuff you can do yourself, which includes audio mods.
So, MOST devs want to do BIGGER things than merely tweak/debloat already-debloated stock firmware. So, they go to AOSP/Lineage ROMs.
Once stock Pie is released widely, most devs will move on to Android 10 (Q) ROMs. Because they will want to do something not yet done.
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Suppose that all makes sense.
I'm currently running Lineage and have no complaints...
I just sort of fancied trying the LG software again if it was out for PIE and someone may have had a rooted ROM that allows changing the navigation, status bar etc
Roshi69 said:
Suppose that all makes sense.
I'm currently running Lineage and have no complaints...
I just sort of fancied trying the LG software again if it was out for PIE and someone may have had a rooted ROM that allows changing the navigation, status bar etc
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I'm running rooted stock firmware with no complaints. I changed status bar icons with Xposed mods (including Gravity Box and Xstana), I'm running Nova launcher with my choice of icons, Anxious V30 mod and other stuff.
Agreed, mod rom can be replace by xposed and stuff. What we lack is a back port rom from newer model like v50. (Like what we see on older s series have backport rom from newe one)