well i am planning to buy a new phone and bit confused between k20 and poco f1. Though k20 has new features better screen and cameras and all but the development seems to be very less whereas poco has an amazing development and i love flashing and testing roms and stuff.
So should i go with k20 or pick the poco f1. My budget is fixed to 20k.
Will the k20 get better development like roms and stuff or should i go for poco f1..
At the moment, neither.
K30 is soon to be released.
Which means prices will drop.
I have the poco, my wife has m9t (k20). In every aspect except the processor, my wife's is better. The thing that stands out the most, is the screen. I hate poco's notch.
So if you are a heavy 3d gamer/compulsive flasher (i am) go for the poco.
In any other case go for k20
If you cannot wait then definitely Poco is the best but if you can wait then wait for new 5G phones hitting the market and invest a good amount on oneplus or xiaomi to get the best of available devices.
and what about the k20's development.
Being an Mi phone i expected it to have a good development from start but don't see that.
It feels like my realme 3 pro has more roms than k20 to try out.
why is that so?
And also one more thing i saw as on specs that 730 has newer kryo 470 whereas 845 has kryo 385.
So that does mean that 730 should get better results on cpu front if not better than atleast around 845.
As far as the gpu go i know Adreno 630 will perform bwtter than 618 for sure.
Also one of my friend has poco f1 and he says the display quality is really bad in poco and he has got yello spot issue in just 8 months of usage and also he feels that the phone gets hot really hot when playing pubg and doesn't really look like it has liquid cooling or something.
wait till the k20 pro price drops a bit or better save and wait for k30.
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Hello all, I'm looking to purchase either of these phones, and was wondering which one to get. I understand the Poco F1 has better specs, but the main thing in which I'm interested in is, which one of them has an easier bootloader to unlock? And which one of them will have better ROM support? The RN5 Pro already has some good ROM'S available, is the same to be expected for the PocoF1? The RN5 unlocking process is long drawn, does the same hold true for Poco?
Thanks!
I am using poco F1. It can handle anything you throw at it so you won't be needing any kinda of improvement for now. Also for this specs there will be lot of Dev support. My suggestion is poco F1. Also btw 636 and 845 there is a lot of improvement in performance.
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As both these phones are reported to have touch issues, go for Pocophone. It's better in every aspect. Bootloader unlock wait is 3 days.
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I am using poco F1. It can handle anything you throw at it so you won't be needing any kinda of improvement for now. Also for this specs there will be lot of Dev support. My suggestion is poco F1. Also btw 636 and 845 there is a lot of improvement in performance.
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As both these phones are reported to have touch issues, go for Pocophone. It's better in every aspect. Bootloader unlock wait is 3 days.
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Thanks a lot!
Rmn5 pro is a bit older and also two completely different segments.
I had the rmn5 pro 6gb version and did the upgrade to f1.
I honestly prefer everything about the rmn 5 pro over the f1 but the thing is the f1 is a high end spec phone, latest SOC, has treble support so customs roms Will flow with options and also it will be one of the most sold 845 phones on the market so yeah custom roms will for sure be massive and last but not least, it's the later of the 2 phones.
Pocophone is a new segment by xiaomi and xiaomi has to put focus on the phone with upgrades and fixes and what not. If they mess this up the pocophone will be the first and last.
The approach by xiaomi is genius as a oneplus competitor but for the way cheaper price. The aim in the future will for sure turn out as the oneplus did.
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Zeggi said:
Rmn5 pro is a bit older and also two completely different segments.
I had the rmn5 pro 6gb version and did the upgrade to f1.
I honestly prefer everything about the rmn 5 pro over the f1 but the thing is the f1 is a high end spec phone, latest SOC, has treble support so customs roms Will flow with options and also it will be one of the most sold 845 phones on the market so yeah custom roms will for sure be massive and last but not least, it's the later of the 2 phones.
Pocophone is a new segment by xiaomi and xiaomi has to put focus on the phone with upgrades and fixes and what not. If they mess this up the pocophone will be the first and last.
The approach by xiaomi is genius as a oneplus competitor but for the way cheaper price. The aim in the future will for sure turn out as the oneplus did.
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Thanks man, helped me decide! Will get the F1 then I think.
Get the f1 you wont regret it. I had changed to f1 from samsung s7 edge. Best thing about poco f1 is speed and battery life
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Get the f1 you wont regret it. I had changed to f1 from samsung s7 edge. Best thing about poco f1 is speed and battery life
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Thank you, will do!
even if poco was not in the scene, there was no reason to buy rn5 pro after 8months. you could go towards all the android one phones in the range, or asus zenfone max m1 pro.
however, if you can afford poco, don't even think twice. it is superior in everything from all of those devices.
I sold my RN5Pro and got Poco F1. Day and night difference in camera and performance. Why would you even compare 5 Pro with Poco? Go for Poco.
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even if poco was not in the scene, there was no reason to buy rn5 pro after 8months. you could go towards all the android one phones in the range, or asus zenfone max m1 pro.
however, if you can afford poco, don't even think twice. it is superior in everything from all of those devices.
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I sold my RN5Pro and got Poco F1. Day and night difference in camera and performance. Why would you even compare 5 Pro with Poco? Go for Poco.
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Thanks!
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
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Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.
I know, on paper, its no contest, But I am trying to decide between Redmi Note 8 and Poco F1. The difference between them is only £40
These are the important factors for me, the first 4 are must haves.
Good Battery life
Good Custom ROM support (now and future)
Headphone socket
SD Card
Notification LED
Reasonable Screen
Reasonable performance, (no gaming and was content with Redmi 5 Pro 4Gb Snapdrgon 636 until it broke)
I know the Poco F1 is much higher spec, but I dont really like the look (ugly cut out at the top and big bezel at the bottom). Plus because Redmi 8 is newer, I thought maybe better support for custom roms, in the future.
What do you think ?
I just bought my mum a Redmi note 8. Gotta say, it's a really nice phone for the price. She loves it
The F1 beats it pretty much all round though - note 8 has (arguably) slightly better battery life, the ir blaster is a nice gimmick and you can get an NFC version of the note 8 (a feature which I really miss), though that one doesn't have a notification light
I'd suggest you wait a couple of months for the note 9, but I suspect you'd still be better getting an F1!
The Poco F1 wins on nearly every spec. CPU,Graphics, BT, Memory, etc. The only problem with it, is that huge notch, large chin and bezels scream 2018 (in my mind).
Thanks for letting me know about the Redmi Note 9, seems like its imminent
My fear is that all Redmi phones will follow the Redmit 8 pro and have a mediatek chipset, rumoured below. That will kill chance of custom roms,. noones interested developing for Mediatek,
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
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The Poco F1 wins on nearly every spec. CPU,Graphics, BT, Memory, etc. The only problem with it, is that huge notch, large chin and bezels scream 2018 (in my mind).
Thanks for letting me know about the Redmi Note 9, seems like its imminent
My fear is that all Redmi phones will follow the Redmit 8 pro and have a mediatek chipset, rumoured below. That will kill chance of custom roms,. noones interested developing for Mediatek,
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/redmi-9-launch-q1-2020-specifications-helio-g70-exclusive/
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That's true, that the note 8 pro has a mediatek soc, but it's supposed to be very good. If rooting is your thing (used to be mine but I just don't have time these days - plus I can live with MIUI on my f1)
Still it will be outperformed by the F1, plus the RN 8pro will likely cost a good bit more than the F1
The F1 is not likely to get more first party firmware upgrades though. If rooting is your thing, get an f1 and have fun for as long as the battery lasts (the specs should hold up for 3 or 4 years)
Or save up and get the F2 when it launches (assuming it's not a turkey)
I usually always go for function over looks. Just abit background, it was my Redmi Note 5 pro *(Whyred) which recently died on me. Its a 636 Chipset and had 4Gb of RAM. And for me, I had zero performance issues with it for 18 months. I guess I am a light user. Thats why, on balance the Redmi 8 might be better for me (looks etc).
Just a quick one, no definites of course, but the Redmi note 9 seems imminent ? i.e March ish ?
I do get what you are saying about custom roms and time. However, I dont mind,
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I usually always go for function over looks. Just abit background, it was my Redmi Note 5 pro *(Whyred) which recently died on me. Its a 636 Chipset and had 4Gb of RAM. And for me, I had zero performance issues with it for 18 months. I guess I am a light user. Thats why, on balance the Redmi 8 might be better for me (looks etc).
Just a quick one, no definites of course, but the Redmi note 9 seems imminent ? i.e March ish ?
I do get what you are saying about custom roms and time. However, I dont mind,
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Poco X2 would be a great choice for you.:good:
Redmi note8 pro is on MediaTek Gaming chip! with more Ram,
both are on LCD
however poco has advantage of many Custom roms! kernels etc where i don't think with note 8 pro you will enjoy this !
check xda forums for note 8 pro for custom roms and kernel status!
Kcal is must on lcd to to fix color saturation!
POCO F1 Armored Version 8GB 256GB is available for INR 16999/- now.
I can get it for Rs. 12,299 with exchange of my old phone.
I am wondering if it's still a good phone in February 2020?
Would really appreciate your suggestion. Thanks!
Good budget phone. Becoz there is better soc now. :laugh:
If you wait, in short time, Mi 10 Pro will be released.
I think that's great value (about €220 before trade in?)
Mi 10 pro will be expensive, but may lead to some further price reductions - I wouldn't have thought you'd get such a high spec F1 much cheaper though
Go for it
That's an amazing price. Just buy it
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POCO F1 Armored Version 8GB 256GB is available for INR 16999/- now.
I can get it for Rs. 12,299 with exchange of my old phone.
I am wondering if it's still a good phone in February 2020?
Would really appreciate your suggestion. Thanks!
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If you don't mind an okayish display and a big notch, this is the phone to get at this price point
Pros : Flagship SOC (crazy fast for EVERYTHING), rear fingerprint is a plus, fast charge, one of the most developer-supported devices on the earth, really good price point now, several gcam versions support, miui cam app via ANX cam.
Cons : Big-fat-ugly notch, average LCD hence color and brightness sub par, touch issues, slowly fading support due to latest xiaomi devices being handed to Poco F1 devs, sanity has almost stopped GCAM support.
Apart from these, plastic body is user-taste
I would say there are better options in this proce range because we hardly need crazy-fast speed during day-to-day usage, we look at the screen all the time so best screen is needed.
Hope this helps.
At this price, I advise you to buy it.
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I would say there are better options in this proce range
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Tell us a few - I'm genuinely curious to know which phones you're thinking of
thesoupthief said:
Tell us a few - I'm genuinely curious to know which phones you're thinking of
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Samoled+mid range soc+decent cam
-M30s (reduce animation scale to 0.5x)
-Used oneplus/samsung flagship of previous year
-Mi A3
-Note 8 pro (the only 120 hz lcd on the list)
-realme X or 5 pro
Hope this helps.
@rajeshkoshti A few phones with nice screens there. I see the way you're thinking (albeit each has one or more weaknesses, often the camera, and though the F1 isn't perfect on that score, it's not at all bad especially with a gcam to your taste)
Just to say though, to hit the same price point you'd have to look for a 1+ or Samsung flagship from more than one generation back - remember, the F1 itself is a budget flagship from nearly 18 months ago
Bear in mind also that the F1 in question is top of the F1 range
Have to say, I'd still go for the F1, but it's good to have options!
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Samoled+mid range soc+decent cam
-M30s (reduce animation scale to 0.5x)
-Used oneplus/samsung flagship of previous year
-Mi A3
-Note 8 pro (the only 120 hz lcd on the list)
-realme X or 5 pro
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Whaat?? - Note 8 pro (the only 120 hz lcd on the list)
Which phone?
Thank you guys! @rajeshkoshti Really appreciate the well articulated reply.
If I buy Poco F1 8GB 256GB Armored Version now, how long do you think I can use it? Will it last another 2-3 years and get support?
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Thank you guys! @rajeshkoshti Really appreciate the well articulated reply.
If I buy Poco F1 8GB 256GB Armored Version now, how long do you think I can use it? Will it last another 2-3 years and get support?
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It will last surely for around 3-4 years . S845 and 8 gb ram is sufficient. Even s625 devices are okay for a normal user.
I have an Armoured edition poco, i advise you to go for normal version. You wont find a good case for armored one.
If you are using without a case go for armored edition. Its a beauty
Though if you have the armoured edition, you don't really need a case, surely?
In relation to updates, I wouldn't be so sure. Pocophone is a bit of an unknown quantity - Xiaomi (from my very limited experience) seem to be good about supporting their (huge) range of devices for a good few updates, but I've read concerns that the F1 may not get such longer-term love. However in a post-Treble world I'd naively hope developers will be able to keep it current for a few years yet
if you are a camera fan, forget poco f1, mi a2 has a far better camera.
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if you are a camera fan, forget poco f1, mi a2 has a far better camera.
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This head to head review of the F1 Vs mi A2 cameras disagrees - probably not much in it, but the F1 wins
https://youtu.be/2BoNNsoLYNM
Fwiw I find the F1 with gcam takes pretty decent photos
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Samoled+mid range soc+decent cam
-M30s (reduce animation scale to 0.5x)
-Used oneplus/samsung flagship of previous year
-Mi A3
-Note 8 pro (the only 120 hz lcd on the list)
-realme X or 5 pro
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all these options are meh.
redmi note 8 pro doesnt have 120fps lcd
mi a3 sd665
used Samsung flagships from three years ago? two years ago flagships is still priced the same as new poco 6/64 and lower performance
used one plus? are you joking?
realme x & 5 pro SD616???
m30s?
these are borderline low ranger performer.
SD 7xX & 730G & G90T chipsets are considered mid ranger.
sd6XX is low ranger bud
Redmi Note 8 pro is the better one.
yoghibawono said:
all these options are meh.
redmi note 8 pro doesnt have 120fps lcd
mi a3 sd665
used Samsung flagships from three years ago? two years ago flagships is still priced the same as new poco 6/64 and lower performance
used one plus? are you joking?
realme x & 5 pro SD616???
m30s?
these are borderline low ranger performer.
SD 7xX & 730G & G90T chipsets are considered mid ranger.
sd6XX is low ranger bud
Redmi Note 8 pro is the better one.
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Woh! (I see, u ranted first and then edited ur post saying 8 pro is better option - which I hv alrdy included for the OP, LOL)
somebody is getting too much excited!
I was just giving my two cents to the OP, chill.
Instead of arguing with my comments u shud give ur two cents n stop typing.
BTW, hey OP Poco X2 is not a bad option either, it will get longer support than F1.
Peace.:good:
f2 coming
Should I consider POCO F1 (beryllium)over POCO M2 PRO (Gram) in 2020 ?
Which phone is better ???
If you use poco f1 then tell any cons. Of it
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Should I consider POCO F1 (beryllium)over POCO M2 PRO (Gram) in 2020 ?
Which phone is better ???
If you use poco f1 then tell any cons. Of it
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If you had asked me this one year ago i would have recommended POCO F1 without any thought. But it has now become quite old considering every month a new phone is launched. The major advantage over M2 pro is its SoC. Performance is greater than my needs ,SDM845 still holds up and there is a lot of development support for POCO F1. As for the camera, having a 48mp sensor is no good when the software is so ****ty. It can't take the full advantage. I can capture better pictures with a GCam on F1's 12mp camera. POCO F1 has enough battery that will get you through the day. But don't expect it to last upto 2 day. M2 pro has bigger battery, better fast charging, fine chipset and will be getting major android updates in the future. So it really comes down to what you want to do with your phone. If you want fast phone with ok camera and ok battery go for POCO F1. As for the software it still has a lot of development potential.
Cons for POCO F1
Getting old.
Notch sometimes bothers me.
There are chances of getting screen issues 'cause lot of users have complained about it.
poco F1.
Notch isnt really a problem for me.
m2 pro is just a rebranded redmi note 9 pro in my place.
cons, back design is bland af
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poco F1.
Notch isnt really a problem for me.
m2 pro is just a rebranded redmi note 9 pro in my place.
cons, back design is bland af
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Bland af ?
Depends on what you are looking for and your budget. If you can spend a bit more go for the F2 Pro.
If you are only looking at the M2 and F1 then go for the M2, sure the chip isn't as powerful as the F1, but the 720G is sufficient and it can play games (though not on the highest settings), but for sure it will still be supported updates wise since Poco basically declared that the MIUI12 update will be the last and we'd have to rely on enthusiastic devs for 3rd party ROMS. If you don't mind flashing and if you don't use the cameras that much anyway then the F1 may be for you. But like I said if you have a bigger budget go for the F2 Pro, Nord, or even a OnePlus 7 (if you can get it for a good price) family, or even the mi 10 lite